Hello, I was long time inactive on this forum, but I Gamble a lot for that time :skull:
After 10 years of constant gambling, after loosing thousands and thousands.. on many different ways. I must admit that roulette is really unbeatable game in every aspect for me.
The fact is, I won the must when I didn't have desire to win, few examples:
1. I went to casino with 100 Euros with idea to "donate" it to casino with stupid bet and have a little of fun, after one hour, go out with 6000 euros.
2. I went to casino with 2000 euros in order to get just 50, and go out, I lost all on system with progressions.
3. I went to casino with 1000 euros to play dozens for a win of 100 per day, i fail fifth day.
4. I went to casino to play flat bet system for 5% win of bankroll, 5 day in row i was loosing 10-15 percent after hours of play.
5. I went to casino to donate again with 50 euros, and made 1500 euro....
and so on... after series of system fails, I was going in casino just to play for fun and maybe to have a luck... and when I had win in my head, every time i loose and opposite.
It's unbelievable, Like Murphy's law, each time when I wanted to win constantly, i failed miserably, when i didn't care, then i won.
I tested many systems from different people in first place with real money and with RX codes too, from this site and other ones.
100% of them are based on progression, generally more than 95% of all system are based on progression, they miserable fail every time without exceptions.
Example: Last time few days ago I set goal, 10 euros from session, Bankroll 1000 euros, Live Casino bet 365, maximum 5 session per day, session last maximal for 50 spins.
I tested it before betting, on RX for 800 session, after every session restart and begun new one(1 session-maximal 50 spins) with 5countV2 system, 0 time fail for a win of 10 units.
First session, 10 euros win after 5 minutes of play, I went to breakfast and thought: "Good start, I hope I will win next 99 session."
After half an hour, I came to play one more session with so many self confidence, and you guess what ? AGAIN, I failed, I lost 1000 euros, on last 15 spins with maximum progression of 100 euros bet, on even money. I just laugh and watched at monitor for few minutes :). I set goal of 1% of bankroll per session and second session and AGAIN I miserably fail.
My hope were many time shaken, I'm not easy breakable, I will continue to gamble, I just understand from day to day, that math and probability is not a way to win on roulette, I would love if someone can convince me otherwise.
Einstein said "The only way to make money at a roulette wheel is to steal it when the dealer isn't looking."
He was the brain, but I'm not convinced enough in this statement too :smile:, Einstein stole theories from his women and made himself popular :pleasantry:, because people believe in it.
Then one time, come up the guy who made up Electricity, Nikola Tesla, and said that Einstein theories are literally bullshit.
So, I don't believe to Einstein theories, but from other side I don't believe in possibility to win anymore, and I'm confused.
I would like to someone show me, some new idea, some new way, be sure that your idea is not Holy Grail, because holy grail dosen't exist if you don't have luck, share it with others :good: give other people, who are open-minded hope too.
My goal is simple, 1% per session, maximal 5% per day , starting bank 500-1000 units, share some ideas, I will be grateful.
Thank you.
Play constantly this.....good luck
McMonaco,
Can you explain a little further?
Have you played this for long periods?
Insider
once bitten. twice shy. if you put your hand in the fire once . you do not do it again. same with roulette..
Monaco, I'm trying to understand from this file but, would you like to describe it little more ?
Thank you.
Quote from: pins on October 02, 2012, 08:12:34 PM
once bitten. twice shy. if you put your hand in the fire once . you do not do it again. same with roulette..
Exactly like you said.
Quote from: deluxer on October 02, 2012, 09:06:09 PM
Exactly like you said.
But I will put my hand in fire for few more times :swoon: I'm stubborn.
Quote from: insidebet on October 02, 2012, 07:43:10 PM
McMonaco,
Can you explain a little further?
Have you played this for long periods?
Insider
--Last 3 lines versus furthest 3 lines....very evenly balanced EC bet.
W 3 or L 3....will always get 10% of your BR.Details explained in excel.
Am I mistaken or you constantly bet on ALL 6 lines? Sometimes more on 3 than the other 3? I this is the case, it is a complete nonsense.
If you are going to bet , say 5 units on latest and say 3 on furthest, then just bet 2 units on latest and the result will be the same no matter what, except when 0 comes. Instead of losing 8 units, you will only lose 2.
Tell me I got it all wrong...
Insider
Quote from: insidebet on October 02, 2012, 11:21:39 PM
Am I mistaken or you constantly bet on ALL 6 lines? Sometimes more on 3 than the other 3? I this is the case, it is a complete nonsense.
If you are going to bet , say 5 units on latest and say 3 on furthest, then just bet 2 units on latest and the result will be the same no matter what, except when 0 comes. Instead of losing 8 units, you will only lose 2.
Tell me I got it all wrong...
Insider
Nonsense???My friend differential betting it is how am actually betting/this is only for sake
of showing/and am pressuming that readers are acquaint with that same as you are.As far as
method is concerned you shall not find any EC bet as evenly balanced as this one.....Do some
testing and find out.
QuoteEinstein said "The only way to make money at a roulette wheel is to steal it when the dealer isn't looking."
No thats not what he said. Do careful research and consider what he said. Many sites have misquoted him.
And the thing is roulette is being beaten every day. Everyone who is anybody in the gaming industry KNOWS this.
And finally, I literally have come accross tens of thousands of avid roulette players. And the only people that I know that actually earn a living playing roulette:
1. Do NOT bet outside
2. Only play on real wheels
I have had many people initiate my 100k challenge, but not get past the first step because the first step requires proper testing.
What does all this tell you? hmm. yet people dont see it even when it is so clear.
See nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html) which explains in plain language how roulette can and cannot be beaten. That page was created as a starting point. Also many people here know all this, but dont care as they're looking for another way they think will be easier.
Most people do the same rubbish in a way they think is new. blah blah blah around in circles
... and when the rng player becomes an advantage player, they understand what they were doing wrong and kick themselves for not understanding it earlier. every advantage player has been there before.
And the only people that I know that actually earn a living playing roulette:
1. Do NOT bet outside
2. Only play on real wheels
BINGO, I agree.
Ken
Steve I already seen your site, and read it many times and I don't know what to think. How much you earn on roulette with your method? Where are you playing roulette ?
Predicting of sector where ball will fall, on the principles of physic and earning on daily basis... that sound very hard. I meet one guy few years ago in Casino, who is over 60 years old, and played your way, predicting the sector, physical on different ways... he said to me, that every roulette wheel have something under the wheel or near the wheel, which you can't predict even with machine.
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And the only people that I know that actually earn a living playing roulette:
1. Do NOT bet outside
2. Only play on real wheels
2. Real wheels ? Live roulette at online casinos, like bet365, dublinbet, wiliamhill and others are real wheel or not ? From my sight it looks very real, I don't see any clue of cheating, and if they do so, I think that my bet of 5-100units isn't important for they total profits.
@Mr J
Your system with 2 numbers is very interesting, but I didn't try it for real money for now. Do you still play it ?
Monaco,
If you use differential betting, say so from the beginning. And your Excel sheet sure does not.
How do you calculate your ''+5'' or ''even'' if you use the differential?
Insider
Deluxer, I'm sorry for what happened to you over the years playing Roulette.
Here's an idea to consider. Roulette tournaments
Usually there is a small fee to participate, however you get considerably more bankroll without the actual expense if you lose. Plus you're competing with other players, not directly with the casino.
I play online roulette red black Martingale.I set a goal of 20%,mostly of the time reached that goal.But also mostly of the time wiped out due to greediness,no discipline.
If the goal is 1%,that is not vey hard to get with Martingale.I follow the pattern.
Quote from: deluxer on October 02, 2012, 10:35:14 AM
Hello, I was long time inactive on this forum, but I Gamble a lot for that time :skull:
After 10 years of constant gambling, after losing thousands and thousands.. on many different ways. I must admit that roulette is really unbeatable game in every aspect for me.
The fact is, I won the must when I didn't have desire to win, few examples:
1. I went to casino with 100 Euros with idea to "donate" it to casino with stupid bet and have a little of fun, after one hour, go out with 6000 euros.
2. I went to casino with 2000 euros in order to get just 50, and go out, I lost all on system with progressions.
3. I went to casino with 1000 euros to play dozens for a win of 100 per day, I fail fifth day.
4. I went to casino to play flat bet system for 5% win of bankroll, 5 day in row I was losing 10-15 percent after hours of play.
5. I went to casino to donate again with 50 euros, and made 1500 euro....
and so on... after series of system fails, I was going in casino just to play for fun and maybe to have a luck... and when I had win in my head, every time I lose and opposite.
It's unbelievable, Like Murphy's law, each time when I wanted to win constantly, I failed miserably, when I didn't care, then I won.
I tested many systems from different people in first place with real money and with RX codes too, from this site and other ones.
100% of them are based on progression, generally more than 95% of all system are based on progression, they miserable fail every time without exceptions.
Example: Last time few days ago I set goal, 10 euros from session, Bankroll 1000 euros, Live Casino bet 365, maximum 5 session per day, session last maximal for 50 spins.
I tested it before betting, on RX for 800 session, after every session restart and begun new one(1 session-maximal 50 spins) with 5countV2 system, 0 time fail for a win of 10 units.
First session, 10 euros win after 5 minutes of play, I went to breakfast and thought: "Good start, I hope I will win next 99 session."
After half an hour, I came to play one more session with so many self confidence, and you guess what ? AGAIN, I failed, I lost 1000 euros, on last 15 spins with maximum progression of 100 euros bet, on even money. I just laugh and watched at monitor for few minutes :). I set goal of 1% of bankroll per session and second session and AGAIN I miserably fail.
My hope were many time shaken, I'm not easy breakable, I will continue to gamble, I just understand from day to day, that math and probability is not a way to win on roulette, I would love if someone can convince me otherwise.
Einstein said "The only way to make money at a roulette wheel is to steal it when the dealer isn't looking."
He was the brain, but I'm not convinced enough in this statement too :smile:, Einstein stole theories from his women and made himself popular :pleasantry:, because people believe in it.
Then one time, come up the guy who made up Electricity, Nikola Tesla, and said that Einstein theories are literally bullshit.
So, I don't believe to Einstein theories, but from other side I don't believe in possibility to win anymore, and I'm confused.
I would like to someone show me, some new idea, some new way, be sure that your idea is not Holy Grail, because holy grail dosen't exist if you don't have luck, share it with others :good: give other people, who are open-minded hope too.
My goal is simple, 1% per session, maximal 5% per day , starting bank 500-1000 units, share some ideas, I will be grateful.
Thank you.
That was a good honest post and nice topic - i think you should copy your post and made one at nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/index.php (nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/index.php) thanks for sharing.
Quote from: bakonlin on October 04, 2012, 09:37:39 AM
I play online roulette red black Martingale.I set a goal of 20%,mostly of the time reached that goal.But also mostly of the time wiped out due to greediness,no discipline.
If the goal is 1%,that is not vey hard to get with Martingale.I follow the pattern.
It's not easy like you are thinking :) You need to count on luck.
Quote from: I have cookies on October 04, 2012, 09:39:42 AM
That was a good honest post and nice topic - I think you should copy your post and made one at nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/index.php (nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/index.php) thanks for sharing.
Good advice, I will do that.
Thank you.
Even-Chance isn't so bad
Consider this strategy ("Luxer One"-just for you)
Consider the last five outcomes, each time bet the opposite of the fifth outcome *example: red(newest), black, red, red, black
Bet red---with this special progression: whichever is the dominant of the two bet 5x your base bet--since red is dominant, bet red heavy.
Quote from: deluxer on October 04, 2012, 10:16:58 AM
It's not easy like you are thinking :) You need to count on luck.
:yahoo:
You are right.In my experience if I had a BR 1000,bet 1 on red black to get 10 was not very hard.The bad thing was I want to get more and more.The discipline which I dont have
I was shocked to hear Tesla made up electricity.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 06, 2012, 01:29:46 AM
I was shocked to hear Tesla made up electricity.
Invented electricity :) Sorry my English is terrible :D
Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 06, 2012, 01:29:46 AM
I was shocked to hear Tesla made up electricity.
Didn't you knew it Sam........but Edison stole all the glory.
wikpedia don't lie.
Don`t ask Deluxer who invented the Frankfurter he might reply it was Salami. :yahoo:
deluxer i would not take any gambling advice from any one when it boils down to roulette systems if i was in your situation
what i would do is to start to see if there is any good material or books to buy about gamling and learn that way
one source i use almost every day is random org getting my random bits
you can make any settings you like and the outcomes is as good as real wheels
then you can spend time testing things before you decide to play with real money
that way you will learn up and downs using different methods - variance
and i think you should apply all tools that exist when it comes to gambling
does would make sure that you don't get ruin
bankroll management, money management, session management
if you start out with does and setting strict rules - then you will see that you are not allow to use more then 5% out 100% of existing roulette systems - that is a good sign
My self like to read and have just buy a book by John Partick - the main reason is inspiration as i alredy know so much - but there is always something new to learn or getting hints about things that might not strike your mind before
Take care
Cheers
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on October 06, 2012, 03:39:12 PM
Don`t ask Deluxer who invented the Frankfurter he might reply it was Salami. :yahoo:
:thumbsup:
Quote from: mcmonaco on October 06, 2012, 02:41:11 PM
Didn't you knew it Sam........but Edison stole all the glory.
wikpedia don't lie.
NO, NO......
It was the "made up" part that threw me. Electricity was around at the time of the dinosaurs. As was the principle for refrigeration.
Sam
I have cookies has given deluxer an excellent reply. Get a book by John Patrick just as simple as that.
This book with 406 pages on roulette by John Patrick covers a wide range of information for the serious roulette player.
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