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Title: [Online Roulette] How random is random?
Post by: BCShad0w on January 28, 2013, 07:46:42 PM
Hey all,

As you'll see, this is my first post. By all means, it won't be my last and I'll be making my way through many of the boards and many of the topics! I also apologize if such a question has already been asked!

My question is for all of you who play the Online game (skimming through some of the topics, seems like this is the worst possible way to play). I used to play poker where there was large debate on how random was random regarding held cards, community cards, turn, river etc.

So I pose the same question to you; How random is random on Online Roulette?

(I can explain in deeper detail, quick post due to arriving home late)

Hope to hear from ya'll.

Chez
Title: Re: [Online Roulette] How random is random?
Post by: iggiv on January 28, 2013, 08:00:46 PM
live game results are usually random. About programmed "random", could be a big question though.
Most of people consider Betvoyager programmed randomness as real one.
Title: Re: [Online Roulette] How random is random?
Post by: BCShad0w on January 29, 2013, 04:01:30 AM
Quote from: iggiv on January 28, 2013, 08:00:46 PM
live game results are usually random. About programmed "random", could be a big question though.
Most of people consider Betvoyager programmed randomness as real one.

What platform do they use? William Hill Casino Club uses Playtech.

Some people I know believe the program isn't random - They believe the variables are how many tables are open and how quickly people are spinning. Therefore, the software follows it's rules however seems random because of those two variables.

I imagine the only Online Roulette one would want to play is the live dealer version?
Title: Re: [Online Roulette] How random is random?
Post by: iggiv on January 29, 2013, 06:17:59 AM
they may be right about the Playtech. about the BV u can read in the internet. They have their own platform, and they have some kind of proof that their RNG is real random. I am not gonna go into this.


Well, anyway a live wheel is more reliable.
Title: Re: [Online Roulette] How random is random?
Post by: BCShad0w on January 29, 2013, 10:57:53 AM
Quote from: iggiv on January 29, 2013, 06:17:59 AM
they may be right about the Playtech. about the BV u can read in the internet. They have their own platform, and they have some kind of proof that their RNG is real random. I am not gonna go into this.


Well, anyway a live wheel is more reliable.

In regards to a live wheel, does this so include the live dealer games that are on some online casinos?
Title: Re: [Online Roulette] How random is random?
Post by: iggiv on January 29, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
i think live games basically are more reliable than RNG. it's easier to rig RNG than live games. No guarantees though.
Title: Re: [Online Roulette] How random is random?
Post by: BCShad0w on January 29, 2013, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: iggiv on January 29, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
I think live games basically are more reliable than RNG. it's easier to rig RNG than live games. No guarantees though.

Though on some online casinos they'll have a live dealer, ball and wheel for you to play against. There is also a casino near me that you can sit at a computer and play a live wheel and ball so the table doesn't become over crowded. I've never played live before, not sure how many spins I could watch before having to bet/ being pulled over? Or what spreadsheets etc I could take with me?
Title: Re: [Online Roulette] How random is random?
Post by: qayotee on February 14, 2013, 10:53:24 AM
Yes BV is random as random can be. They have a randomness control where you can see for yourself. Then there is also the definition of what random is. I have used many good systems that are based on the fact that perfect randomness does not exist.