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Title: Pocket Depth
Post by: Far-Q on February 21, 2013, 05:26:47 PM
Is there a minimum depth allowed for pockets? Obviously it has to hold the ball!   Pockets appear to be getting shallower.
Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: stringbeanpc on February 25, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
Good Question, never noticed that myself.

Be interesting to see what further responses this thread receives.
Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: ReDsQuaD on February 26, 2013, 10:38:40 AM
The minimum depth you will ever find, are on the cammgeh wheels - mercury 360. You wont come across more shallow than that.
Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: Davemd on February 26, 2013, 01:08:27 PM
Quote from: ReDsQuaD on February 26, 2013, 10:38:40 AM
The minimum depth you will ever find, are on the cammgeh wheels - mercury 360. You wont come across more shallow than that.

very true

Cammegh wheels in the uk the frets are the depth of a matchstick

the smallest ive ever seen
Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: Far-Q on February 26, 2013, 05:16:17 PM
Thank you for the replies so far. So as long as the ball can be held there is no minimum requirement?
Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: bombus on February 26, 2013, 05:57:42 PM
If there is a minimum it will most likely be different for each field of jurisdiction.
Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: bombus on February 26, 2013, 06:04:08 PM
Quote from: Far-Q on February 21, 2013, 05:26:47 PM
Is there a minimum depth allowed for pockets? Obviously it has to hold the ball!   Pockets appear to be getting shallower.

With a bit of effort I can get both balls into one pocket.   :spiteful:
Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: ReDsQuaD on February 26, 2013, 06:09:53 PM
Lol bombus :biggrin:

Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: Steve on February 27, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
.. on a cleaner and more serious note: the most shallow pockets I know of are in Japan on a japanese-made wheel. The pockets are deep enough to hold the ball still and the ball bounces for about 3/4 of the wheel. It looks like bad scatter but isnt because it the bounce is consistently about the same distance.

I assume you brought up the issue of pocket depth because of scatter. But there is a lot more to scatter than just pockets, and way to limit scatter. It is limited by both the wheel design and the individual wheel as even wheels of the same design are not the same.

the further the ball travels, the more possibilities of what it can hit and path it takes, and less predictable the scatter. But there are always imperfections in designs that increase predictability. Either way they are getting harder to beat.
Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: Far-Q on February 27, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: Steve on February 27, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
.. on a cleaner and more serious note: the most shallow pockets I know of are in Japan on a japanese-made wheel. The pockets are deep enough to hold the ball still and the ball bounces for about 3/4 of the wheel. It looks like bad scatter but isnt because it the bounce is consistently about the same distance.

I assume you brought up the issue of pocket depth because of scatter. But there is a lot more to scatter than just pockets, and way to limit scatter. It is limited by both the wheel design and the individual wheel as even wheels of the same design are not the same.

the further the ball travels, the more possibilities of what it can hit and path it takes, and less predictable the scatter. But there are always imperfections in designs that increase predictability. Either way they are getting harder to beat.

Steve,thank you for your reply.
Title: Re: Pocket Depth
Post by: Agabus on March 04, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
Sorry Guys... by pocket depth, I thought this topic was going to be about size of BR!
Anyway, don't they always say it's not the depth or size that counts - it's what you do with it....

Agabus