OK, here's the system. What ever number comes up, you bet the one across the wheel from it. Keep doing that until a win. Number 5 does not play.
I did less than 100 numbers test with this and the profit was over 300.
Sam
See testing below.............
can you put an example please
yalah......pls.clarify??????dun understand????
sam I once noticed system about playing number that just showed and number across the wheel and just adding them until hit.. and after a hit if you would be down you would increase unit value for +1... I think that victor coded it in RX
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Same/opposite system
Regards
Clint
Thanks, Clint
Lurchy posted it.
Will test more and post. I created a much better sheet. The one with it drove me nuts.
Sam
OK, we begin. This one is so easy to test...........
All spins are from the Riverbelle wheel.
I am starting with 1u and if I'm in the profit after my first win, even a tiny amount, I stay on one. If in the negative, move to two. Stay at two for the next win. Positive? Back to 1. Still negative? On to three
When I get in the black and my next trot takes be below my former high, not negative just less, I go up 1u, then 2 then 3 and so on until I pass my previous high. 4u is my highest so far and about 118u of capital is the most expended.
We're off.........
8.16.8.........320u
QuoteI think that victor coded it in RX
Hi mate, I didn't do it for RX. Some time ago I did code trackers for a Mexican/Spanish study group based on the disk (Clasic neighbours, zones, "tolerance at X spaces" and yes, this one called in spanish "el espejo" => "the mirror")... but it was all made in VB.
Those were used in conjunction even, i.e. hunting zone of 3 on mirror numbers, etc.
Quite an interesting ride! Bet selection is fun, but in the end it is the player the one that makes it work. All the computerized tests in huge samples end up the same = [smiley=thumbdown.gif] . The "Art of betting" is either use an array of methods and do the best for playing the method being
currently identified as the one "in game" at the wheel, or surfing properly
the particular moment for the method you are using regularly.
Any case, the keyword is adaptation. Losing less at dispersion, riding and squeezing that concentration of hits, all using conservative win goals and recoupable stop-loss (not fun having a quasi-holy grail with -50.000 units as drawdown to recoup "in the long run", 100.000 spins later [smiley=im/confused_smile.gif].
Always framed within humanly-playable session and humanly-workable limits.
Victor
Day two was a toughie.............
We started off like lightning and were up 252 at one point. The the repeaters stopped coming and we started the downhill slide. Way into the negative about 200u and then slowly back up to 54 where I'm sure I would have exited. I like to think I would have exited at 252, but that's fudging the figures. I finished at +24u, but I'm certain I would have exited at 54 so I'll list that rather than the 252.
I won't go over a $5 per number bet as it just gets out of hand. 20 numbers by $5 is $100 bucks per hand. Can't do much more than that.
8.16.8.........320u
8.18.8..........54u
Just tested 220 spins from spielbank hamburg and finished +608 units.
Sweet! Shame it was testing.
Clint
PS Sam, would it be better to have a continuing progression or not?
Clint
I'd prefer to leave the progressions to others. I just don't function when I'm laying down big bucks to win little bucks. Others might find it useful, but not me.
Sam
Well, you know it IS a progression as you increase your bet along the way.
Why hasn't Herb posted one of his usual
enlightening comments on this one?
Just another way of randomly picking numbers.
Will end just like all the other ways of randomly
picking numbers. No logic, no common sense.
No nothing.
airball
test 1: +100u
test 2: +100u
About 120 numbers.......168u
Granted, it would take some bankroll and faith for this system as it does go down. And there's no guarantee it won't just keep going down, but today it didn't.
8.16.8.........320u
8.18.8..........54u
8.19.8.........166u
Sam
sam but with that kind of results it is easy to have stoplos around 200u, and it can recover
You know, all this really is is a combination of a repeater plus the law of the third.
For a long time I have maintained that if you have repeaters in the last ten numbers with no more than three between them, this is a signal that repeaters are in the offing.
2
x
x
x
2............that sort of thing. Two of the last five within ten spins.
I am thinking about expanding that idea to "Two out of the last five opposites within ten spins" as well.
This would narrow the range down somewhat and provide a double trigger for betting. If your repeater/opposite did not hit before the first one left the screen, you would just pause your progression and wait for another trigger.
I can promise and guarantee that repeaters are followed by more repeaters, so opposites might also follow this pattern.
Sure it's voodoo and I'm wasting my life! There!! I've said it for the naysayers, so they don't have to waste their life typing!
Sam
Todays numbers were a disaster as far as I'm concerned. The repeats came after the wins, after you had started over and there were many numbers that came with no repeat or opposite. When I hit 1,000 units down, that was it for me. I know I would never do this in my wildest dreams.
However............
There may be a better way to look at it. By only going back as far as the repeat/opposite and starting from there, you would include many numbers that were left out.
Also, I see so many repeats........I've just got to try that.
Well, it was fun.
Sam
hi guys,
newbie here has been fiddling with this system yesterday and I've come up with a tweak or 2 to it.
It works fine for me but ill be continue the testing for the next few days or so.
The tweak works like this at the beginning play as per instructions given ie play the number hit and its mirror at one unit apiece. However, rather than play throughout the entire process until it hits, i only play for 5 spins max.
ie. bets are like this 2,4,6,8,10 .
if u still miss on the 5th spin(10 unit total bet)stop betting. However, continue taking the numbers down until one number hits. Resume betting again using the last hit number and increase the unit stake.
ie. 4,8,12,16,20
Carry on until you beat the last high and then drop back 1 unit again.
While this method may not win as much as the original, i guess it reduces the heart attack if you actually go through long stretches of misses like sam did.
Anyways
results for 23/8/08 BR cap 500 units
82 spins +222 units
Best Regards and good luck
Hammy
Hello Hammy; I'm Sammy!
Welcome to the fray!
Pray, where did you get your numbers? RNG? Live wheel? You will find many fresh numbers posted under actuals which I have taken down. Try 'em; you'll like 'em!
Sam
dublinbet actually hahahaha
regards hammy
Dublinbet numbers are nearly as good as mine. I find them a bit greenish. Almost not ripe, if you get my drift!
and a ha ha to you
Sam
hi sammy
Just had a look at the numbers you provided and ran a few tests and basically the system got massacred
.
Well i guess there are days where you'll have a bad run ;). Better to run away and come back again to fight another day or maybe another week i guess.
Will continue with testing with dublin numbers and we'll see how it goes from there
Hammy
hi guys,
ive been doing further tweaking and testing to this system and the results have been pretty good so far.All tests were done on dublinbet.
date TN Sp W/L TOTAL
23/8 1 49 124 124
2 55 116 240
25/8 3 27 -272 -32
4 26 118 86
26/8 5 23 100 186
6 26 -258 -72
7 57 106 34
27/8 8 42 -294 -260
28/8 9 30 120 -140
10 32 -296 -436
29/8 11 32 102 -334
1/9/ 12 17 102 -232
2/9/ 13 8 120 -112
3/9/ 14 28 102 -10
15 -10
16 20 40 30
17 43 106 136
18 9 114 250
8/9/ 19 33 80 330
20 34 126 456
21 25 114 570
22 22 120 690
9/9/ 23 18 112 802
24 27 120 922
10/9/ 25 27 108 1030
26 18 108 1138
This one was done with a bankroll of 300 units and a target of 100 units Testing will continue.:D Hopefully the luck would as well. Fun money though :p
cheers hammy
bah they didnt come out straight... ill try to put it up again
DATE TEST NO SPIN W/L OVERALL
23/8 1 49 124 124
23/8 2 55 116 240
25/8 3 27 -272 -32
25/8 4 26 118 86
26/8 5 23 100 186
26/8 6 26 -258 -72
26/8 7 57 106 34
27/8 8 42 -294 -260
28/8 9 30 120 -140
28/8 10 32 -296 -436
29/8 11 32 102 -334
1/9 12 17 102 -232
2/9 13 8 120 -112
3/9 14 28 102 -10
3/9 15 -10
3/9 16 20 40 30
3/9 17 43 106 136
3/9 18 9 114 250
8/9 19 33 80 330
8/9 20 34 126 456
8/9 21 25 114 570
8/9 22 22 120 690
9/9 23 18 112 802
9/9 24 27 120 922
10/9 25 27 108 1030
10/9 26 18 108 1138
Use the snytax, please
[escape]
[table=,]
first column,second column,third column
1,2,3
[/table]
[/escape]
NOTE THE COMMAS
Looks like this:
[table=,]
first column,second column,third column
1,2,3
[/table]
Sam
[table=,]
Date, Test, Spins, Win/Loss, Overall
23/8, 1, 49, 124,124
23/8, 2, 55, 116,240
25/8, 3, 27, -272,-32
25/8, 4, 26, 118,86
26/8, 5, 23, 100,186
26/8, 6, 26, -258,-72
26/8, 7, 57, 106,34
27/8, 8, 42, -294,-260
28/8, 9, 30, 120,-140
28/8, 10, 32, -296,-436
29/8, 11, 32, 102,-334
1/9, 12, 17, 102,-232
2/9, 13, 8, 120, -112
3/9, 14, 28, 102, -10
3/9, 15, 0, 0, -10
3/9, 16, 20, 40, 30
3/9, 17, 43, 106, 136
3/9, 18, 9, 114, 250
8/9, 19, 33, 80, 330
8/9, 20, 34, 126, 456
8/9, 21, 25, 114, 570
8/9, 22, 22, 120, 690
9/9, 23, 18, 112, 802
9/9, 24, 27, 120, 922
10/9, 25, 27, 108, 1030
10/9, 26, 18, 108, 1138
[/table]
There we go
:D
hammy
using spins from Spielbank Hamburg 2000 to 2005
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/spins-4-you-to-download/
(nolinks://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/spins-4-you-to-download/)
testing results so far are as follows
[table=,]
Date, Session, Spins, Win/Loss, Overall
20000101_1, 1, 39, 146, 146
20000101_2, 2, 38, 170, 316
20000101_3, 3, 57, 112, 428
20000101_4, 4, 21, 132, 560
20000101_5, 5, 41, 144, 704
20000101_6, 6, 24, 136, 840
20000101_8, 7, 27, 106, 946
[/table]
looks good so far
cheers
hammy
hammy
You just gave me a little cheer on an otherwise dreary day. Perfectly aligned things just jerk me straight!
Sammy
EDIT: I'm so overcome with the straightness of it all, I will have to come back to study the content of the posts. First, my din-din!
The method im using is as follows:
Use the same numbers given by lurchy in the same/opposite system
betting scheme is as follows: units per number bet
[table=,]
Units,
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
2 4 6 8
3 6 9 12
[/table]
Total number of units bet is as follows
[table=,]
Units,
2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16,
4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32,
6, 12, 18, 24, 30, 36, 42, 48,
8, 16, 24, 32, 40, 48, 56, 64,
10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80,
24, 48, 72, 96,
42, 84, 126, 156,
[/table]
Rules of betting:
Bankroll 300 units (do not exceed it)
Target 100 units
When u lose a set, ie the first column(7 Spins), virtual play the same set until a hit. Move on to the next column after that. Carry on moving the higher columns until a new high is reached, then start at the lowest column again.
In the event a 5 appears, carry on betting as per normal counting it as a spin. You just play the same amount of numbers for the next spin according to the unit value in the table.
Sometimes if i feel lucky i actually jump to the next column if the hit comes between 6-7 spin for that set.
Side note:
I normally look at the board first and only play if i see that the previous numbers are striking in virtual play. In the event that 2 or more sets connect then i play. However this is only my personal preference :D.
Hope u guys have fun testing this out. It sure looks good far!!!! :D
Thanks to Lurchy for a great idea
cheers
Hammy
Edit: Sammy hope u have fun with this!!! Sessions wouldn't be all that long :D Have not gone above 60 spins so far :p
next batch of numbers
[table=,]
Date,Session,Spins,Win/Loss,Overall,
20000102_1, 8, 33, 246, 1192,
20000102_2, 9, 19, 100, 1292,
20000102_3, 10, 25, -198, 1094,
20000102_4, 11, 21, -264, 830,
20000102_5, 12, 33, 116, 946,
20000102_6, 13, 25, 108, 1054,
20000102_8, 14, 22, -222, 832,
[/table]
Slight decrease of 100 + units ... but still healthy overall :D
Hammy
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on August 23, 2008, 10:45:01 AM
The tweak works like this at the beginning play as per instructions given ie play the number hit and its mirror at one unit apiece. However, rather than play throughout the entire process until it hits, I only play for 5 spins max.
ie. bets are like this 2,4,6,8,10 .
if u still miss on the 5th spin(10 unit total bet)stop betting. However, continue taking the numbers down until one number hits. Resume betting again using the last hit number and increase the unit stake.
ie. 4,8,12,16,20
Carry on until you beat the last high and then drop back 1 unit again.
Hamster,
Is this exactly what you're doing? I don't understand your math. Are you saying each trot of five bets costs $10 in the first try?
Samster
Samster
I'm not using the method in the earlier posts. The results were obtained using a max of 7 spins(followed by virtual play until hit) for the first few columns and 5 spins after that as per table.
i'll give u an example:
Lets say we have a run where we hit by the 5th spin
bets would be as follows 2(2 numbers 1 unit each),4(4 numbers) ,6(6),8(8), 10(10)
hit on the 5th try would give u a profit of 6 units.
2nd example
assuming u have a run where u have not hit anything for more than 7 spins at one unit bets per number, upon a hit on virtual play,u move on to the next column and start with the last hit number and its opposite
so now ur bets will be as follows
4(2 numbers@2units each),8(4),12(6),16(8),20(10) etc....
hope that this will help
cheers
hammy
this is an example of how i play
[table=,]
numbers, B, W, W-B, Overall,
4, , , , ,
26, 2, , -2, -2,
33, 4, , -4, -6,
11, 6, , -6, -12,
13, 8, , -8, -20,
30, 10, , -10, -30,
28, 24, , -24, -54,
35, 42, 108, 66, 12,
4, 4, , -4, 8,
23, 8, , -8, 0,
6, 12, , -12, -12,
6, 16, 72, 56, 44,
21, 2, , -2, 42,
12, 4, , -4, 38,
28, 6, , -6, 32,
25, 8, , -8, 24,
12, 10, 36, 26, 50,
17, 2, , -2, 48,
31, 4, , -4, 44,
36, 6, , -6, 38,
26, 8, , -8, 30,
27, 10, , -10, 20,
0, 24, , -24, -4,
17, 42, 108, 66, 62,
14, 4, , -4, 58,
32, 8, , -8, 50,
11, 12, , -12, 38,
34, 16, , -16, 22,
25, 20, , -20, 2,
6, 48, , -48, -46,
32, 84, 216, 132, 86,
9, 2, , -2, 84,
22, 4, , -4, 80,
2, 6, , -6, 74,
18, 8, , -8, 66,
6, 10, 36, 26, 92,
8, 2, , -2, 90,
3, 4, 36, 32, 122,
1, 2, , -2, 120,
12, 4, , -4, 116,
20, 6, , -6, 110,
20, 8, 36, 28, 138,
16, 2, , -2, 136,
31, 4, , -4, 132,
1, 6, , -6, 126,
2, 8, , -8, 118,
29, 10, , -10, 108,
26, 24, , -24, 84,
26, 42, 108, 66, 150,
19, 4, , -4, 146,
21, 8, , -8, 138,
22, 12, , -12, 126,
17, 16, , -16, 110,
8, 20, , -20, 90,
23, 48, 144, 96, 186,
13, 2, , -2, 184,
36, 4, , -4, 180,
4, 6, , -6, 174,
14, 8, , -8, 166,
2, 10, 36, 26, 192,
9, 2, , -2, 190,
27, 4, , -4, 186,
17, 6, 36, 30, 216,
[/table]
This is the Opposite number table
[table=,]
Number,Opp, Number, Opp,
1,4, 19, 33,
2,14, 20, 21,
3,8, 21, 20,
4,1, 22, 34,
,, 23, 26,
6,18, 24, 32,
7,13, 25, 31,
8,3, 26, 23,
9,17, 27, 29,
10,0, 28, 36,
11,12, 29, 27,
12,11, 30, 35,
13,7, 31, 25,
14,2, 32, 24,
15,16, 33, 19,
16,15, 34, 22,
17,9, 35, 30,
18,6, 36, 28,
[/table]
Cheers
Hammy
Hammy
You're doing excellent work and I commend and thank you.
I'm tired and cranky tonight, so I'll take a whack at it tomorrow with new eyes.
Please stick with it. It's tough when it starts to go wrong, but keep the faith. Excuse me, I was talking in my sleep to myself about the 4Selecta System.
Sam
Latest live test on dublin
Got bored calculating archived spins.
Live play is always better.:p
[table=,]
Date, Test, Spins, Win/Loss, Overall
10/9/2008,27,18, 108, 1246
[/table]
edit: ESPECIALLY if u win!!
hammy
Ham......
Two questions:
1. What is your original target amount? I noticed that when #35 hit and you went up $12, you still increased your bet.
2. Someday when you are playing at Dublin, would you consent to telling me the Dublin time so that I may make a screen recording of your play?
Since the spins are numbered, you could just tell me what spin you started and ended on. My software will record for 24 hours if the hard drive is big enough.
Actually, there is no limit!
Sam.....
Sam
Answers for questions,
1. Original target amount is 100 units. I would have stopped on the win of 122 units. The rest was just continuing the example to show how i would have played. If i get a hit on a section on either the 6th or the 7th spin, sometimes i just move on to the next column for one set of 7 spins max. This is just a personal way of playing if i'm feeling lucky. :p
2. yeah no worries. Ill give u a buzz when i give it a go on dublinbet.
Edit : how do you want me to contact u with regards to when i go on? as i normally go on the spur of the moment. :D
hammy
Well, if you see me on....let me know.
If you have and idea within four or five hours, I can set the recorder and just leave it. Which table, of course.
I have two computers, one dedicated to captures.
Sam
Sam
Ill be on for the next few hours or so while im watching england vs croatia :D
to make things easier for u i'll just use table 1 :p
hope that helps cheers
hammy
AHEM
Notice how the man steps up and accepts my looking over his shoulder! I don't really even need to; he's offered his DNA!
Table 1 it is. Setting the Synchro Retreverter as we speak.
Sam
Lol >:D
Hammy
Hammy
I am recording. Dealer is Beata Game ends in 164 #1 just came.
Is this fun, or what??
Sam
started with 30 sam just hit on the first spin 35 !!! woot. This is fun
hammy
Sam
Done with the test. Target of 100 units or more hit with the double spin of 3. Total winnings 140 units from 15 spins ;D
hammy
HamBone
Thanks for that, Bro.
Until later.......
SamBone
oops i stand corrected its from 25 spins not 15 :p ;)
Here is how i played
[table=,]
numbers, B, W, W-B, OVERALL
, , , , ,
30, , , , ,
35, 2, 36, 34, 34
36, 2, , -2, 32
34, 4, , -4, 28
25, 6, , -6, 22
17, 8, , -8, 14
36, 10, 36, 26, 40
13, 2, , -2, 38
0, 4, , -4, 34
1, 6, , -6, 28
26, 8, , -8, 20
30, 10, , -10, 10
2, 24, , -24, -14
12, 42, , -42, -56
12, , , 0, -56
3, 4, , -4, -60
1, 8, , -8, -68
7, 12, , -12, -80
2, 16, , -16, -96
14, 20, 72, 52, -44
0, 6, , -6, -50
3, 12, , -12, -62
16, 18, , -18, -80
3, 24, 108, 84, 4
3, 8, 144, 136, 140
[/table]
Hammy
Sambone
Anytime mate ;D. Reckon you should give a whack at this. With a few more tweaks i think this can(HOPE!!) be a winner.
HamBone
I say, ol' Bean
I shall forthwith put this on my "to whack" list. As of now, I am bogged down with other studies. Told my wife I wanted to hire a secretary. Did not bode well, for sure!
Sam
hammy
Hope you don't find this offensive but I checked your numbers. Perfect!
Thanks for the test!
This system is officially on my "whack" list.
Sam
And, yes, I'm greedy!! I want to corner the market on "Holy Grails".
Then I'll bail out my two good buddies, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac!
God Save the U.S.A!
Sam
Sam
Lol .... maybe its time to bring your wife into the fray!!! i would i could .... but my gf would " skin me alive"!!!
edit : pork doesnt taste as good without any fat :p
Testing results for today @ dubby ... slightly long session. Result still good.
[table=,]
Date, test, sp, Win/Lose, Overall,
12/9/2008, 28, 51, 110, 1356,
[/table]
Ham
latest test result
[table=,]
Date, Test, Spins, Win/Lose, Overall
12/9/2008,29,39,102,1458,
[/table]
Ham
Well, I have to say, hammy, this is quite impressive! Something that goes this far with a profit is worth many looks by many people!
I plan to test this and the G.U.T. as soon as I finish the others. Can't wait to duplicate your excellent results.
Sam
Sam
Hopefully more of the same will continue( and good luck to you as well).
However, i do feel that further tweaks may be needed, like when to start playing for example. While its been said that the "wheel has no memory", i still feel that there's no pt in entering play on a "bad" run of numbers on view (Maybe its just me). Further testing is needed and perhaps more people involved as well, as my results may be just luck.
Cheers and Happy testing folks
Ham
ham
I was going to test it coupled with my theory of repeaters. Here's how it would go. On the marquee you must have two of the same number within five spins of each other.
32
32
32
x
32
32
x
x
32
32
x
x
x
32
And this is only valid as long as the bottom 32 is still number 10 or smaller. When it's 11 or off the board, no bet. I find that when this happens there will be many more repeaters; not always, just sometimes. I was going to wait until a repeater occurred and then start betting until the oldest repeater was #10. Bear in mind that a new set of repeaters after 32 keeps it alive.
1............First half of repeater couplet.......
24
36
1.........repeats are bettable until the previous 1 becomes in the 10 slot or leaves the 10 number marquee. You bet the repeater (1) to repeat also.
x
x
x
32.......still valid; only in the number 9 socket. Would also be valid for one more spin as it's good through number 10.
Wish someone would try this with the lurchy/opposite sysem
Sam
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In this example, the first 35 is in the eleven slot, so the 35s are dead. Three or four spins ago they predicted the 2 and 4. Now the 2 couplet in the lead is the trigger for more repeaters.
Later on, you see this trot:
11........oldest
12
26
11.....repeater Begin betting numbers coming after this 11, plus the 11 itself.
19
21
32
14
6
21.....repeater of the earlier 21. Also starts new group of repeaters as the 21s had no more than 3 fall between them
34....this 34 pushes our first 11 into the ten hole and kills that run.
3
1
32.......not a repeater. Too many numbers between it and the previous 32.
32...repeater that starts the sequence over again. Bet this 32 and all numbers after and all still valid from the 21....21, 34, 3 and 1.
21
19
5
6
30
21......repeater but no triger
19.....same
2
When these repeaters start coming, they can go for an hour. Then they will stop for a long time; no repeaters within the last five spins.
Been watching this since early 07.
Sam
Sam
What's the betting scheme like? flat bets? progression on a loss?
Ham
What I was thinking was this: When you have a trigger: 32xx32.....You bet the 32 and his opposite. Say 18 comes. You bet 18 and his opposite. You will do this as long as the oldest of the repeaters couplet is in the ten slot or less. Eleven is out of bounds, unless a new trigger has formed. Very possible!
You may have as many as nine bets or as few as five, depending on where and how the couplet of repeaters formed. Example:
32......He just came.
32......He is in the 2 slot on the marquee.
The oldest 32 will keep the couplet alive through the tenth position on the marquee.
34...He just came
12
21
11
34...He is oldest part of couplet of repeaters. He is in the fifth slot You may bet until he is in the 11 position down on the marquee. When he is in the tenth, you still bet.
Some marquees are only ten numbers long: CasinoWebCam and others. I think Bet365 is, too. Microgaming's wheel has twelve showing so I am honed in on the eleventh position as my killer.
But.........if you're getting the good results over and over......tweaks my be counter-productive! Just tuck this idea away and keep it as a possible tweak.
Sam
mm k ... i'll have a look at it ... maybe run a secondary table in addition just to seee how it pans out :D
ham
hammy
Good idea. Don't change your primary study. Use this as a secondary! I'd love to see the results.
Sam
Latest result
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Date, Test, Spins, Win/Lose, Overall
13/9/2008,30,29,114,1572
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Edit: Sam, its hard to run the a concurrent secondary table as most of the time i exit pretty quickly :p. It'll be hard to have a good grasp of the br needed as well as exit pts. Maybe a new thread is needed as its probably easier with more people involved.
On a lighter note, the streak is ongoing!!! ;D
Cheers
Ham
Ham
I'd say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Your results are making my drool!
Sam
Sam
Well lets hope it continues.... incidentally the long winning streak started after i looked at the marquee first. Only entered if i saw 2 hits within the board. But heh maybe its just luck.
Ham
As I must do, as I did with Clint, let me put this in my own words and see if you sign off on it.
Betting scheme
2,4,6,8,10,12,14.........This is for seven losses in a row. The unit figure would be the addition of all numbers, or 56u lost.
If I have lost seven spin in a row, I stop betting real and go to virtual and wait for a hit. I then re-start my betting like this:
4,8,12,16,20,24,28......This is for my second seven losses in a row.
What then? Same procedure or quit for the session. You would be down 168u.
But what if I hit during the second try? Do I check for balance and stay at level two until I realize a profit? Do we follow the rules set down by Lurchy?
(I must create a spread sheet for testing my double-numbers idea I related. Tonight I did some random sampling and I think that little idea warrants some serious time and testing.)
So many systems; so little time!
Sam
sam
i do it a little differently ... i normally go 2,4,6,8,10,24,42 ( then let it go until a virtual hit) total lose would be loss of 96 units... then move on to 4,8,12,16,20 48,84 ( loss of 192) and a total loss of -288.
If i hit on the 2nd, i carry on going up the chain until i hit a new high.
However sometimes i do jump onto the next level if i hit between 6-7 spins..
eg bet 2,4,6,8,10,24 and i have a hit on 24( profit of 18 units overall) , then ill move up to 4,8,12,16,20, 48 ,84... on a hit, back the lowest again :D
Me thinks the tweaks i made are for a "hit and run" job ... rather than a grinder. Make ur profits and head on out for a beer. haha :p
Ham
if betting 2,4,6,8,10,12,14(letting it go after that), followed by 4,8,12,16,20,24,28... etc profits for the same period of testing are 1030 as compared to 1572( presently using but more risky).
Hope this helps
Bank roll in both cases 300 targets 100win(stop at first win total of 100 or more). Do not bet if total is results in loss of 301 and above
cheers
Hammy
Sigh.... bad run kills the streak T_T loss of 298 .......
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Date, Test, Spins, Win/Lose, Overall
13/9/2008,31,44,-298,1274
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Edit : On a lighter note .. the end of one good streak isn't necessarily a bad thing ... Its juz the start of a great one( well hopefully!!)
Ham
Latest test
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Date, Test, Spins, Win/Lose, Overall
14/9/2008,32,34,108,1382
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:D
Ham
Being nosey........
Are you up that much in real money?
Sam
nah sam (although in hindsight i should have :p) ... only play money im at abt 2500 ish on dubby .... up from1 k. If i hit 5 k ill start putting real dosh in :D
Ham
Ham
See my question under Full Systems
Thanks
Sam
Latest Test
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Date, Test, Spins, Win/Lose, Overall
15/9/2008,33,24,-234,1148
15/9/2008,34,42,120,1268
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:-\
Ham
Just did 36 spins
profit 146 units never went past 7 spins for a hit
This was using original version
What are the tweaks if any being used now
Regars Rodney
Hi natural9
read from page 2 onwards the tweaks are there. Feel free to ask if there are any questions. :D
Happy Testing
Hammy the 2nd
Update
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Date, Test, Spins, Win/Lose, Overall
16/9/2008,35,32,-256,1012
17/9/2008,36,31,118,1130
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mmm seem to have hit the proverbial "brick wall" as the past few sessions have been up and down. Still, +1000units for the month so far isn't too shabby i must say. Hope it continues:D
Cheers
Hammy( im Hammy too!!! ;D)
Hi All,
I did the test script and tested 10K. Hmmm over the long run its also a loser My Balance stand at -4022.
But it has good winning streaks...
But over the long run it will eat-up you bankroll.
Regards