With Riverbelle spins, naturally.
I feel I have mastered this beast enough to post test results with 99% confidence that I'm doing it right. Human error excluded.
Day one was 200u. Today the charts looked totally different. There was no clear leader until late in the trot and few of the numbers were multiple bets. I only hit one multiple. I got out at -55u as I didn't think it would get better.
8.16.8......200u
8.18.8......-55u
Sam
In today's trot of 183 numbers there were no less than 11 zeros! Three in a row came on the third leg of the Section and a fourth came later. This was very discouraging, to say the least. However, I had some double and triple hits and this system pulled to a profit of 63 units and I'm quite certain, considering the rotten luck of the day, I would have quit there. That was around spin 120. Here's the poop:
8.16.8......200u
8.18.8......-55u
8.19.8.......63u
Four hit it; three in a row!
Not a good day at all..........
The CG Section ran off from the pack at the outset and the bets just didn't fall. I quit at spin 127 at -57. I had been down over a hundred.
I'm not sure I like this CG section much.
Mr. Chips,
I posted the numbers for today, 8.20 under actuals. Perhaps you'd care to take a look.
Sam
Mr. Chips
Yes, I may have made some math mistakes. Yes, I did notice the HG section caused a lot of 5 and 6 unit bets. Good to know we see the same thing which means I'm doing it right.
I am not down in the mouth! I will continue to test. May have to pass on the 21st, Thursday, as it's the day Marcia and I spend time together and go to the movies and out to eat.
Sam
OK, today was the day I was looking for. I went up 188u. See the scanned chart of how the money went up and down.
8.16.8......200u
8.18.8......-55u
8.19.8.......63u
8.??.8......-57u
8.22.8......188u
Total thus far: 276u won
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg169.imageshack.us%2Fimg169%2F9499%2Fscan0002rq8.jpg&hash=5d37c882a7187b130214dec2fb47cd1f40c8937b) (nolinks://imageshack.us)
Tests seems encouraging
Between this and the Chicco/murph system, I'm about to get excited!
Mr. Chips
I saw MG take the lead and never lose it. There were many numbers with 3 chips on them. When there was no MG, it fell to CG and they won a lot, also.
Just one of those days a body wishes they had play the green stuff.
Thanks.
Sam
Well, this was an up-and-down day. I feel I would have quit at 25 at spin 160 so that's where I'll call it. Mr. Chips, this was another day when CG just took over and there was not one time when it was not either ahead or tied. I don't know if I like this CG guy!
8.16.8......200u
8.18.8......-55u
8.19.8.......63u
8.??.8......-57u
8.22.8......188u
8.23.8.......25u
Total thus far: 301u won
(Yes, I'm going to re-do it with the proper spacing. Just too tired.)
Mr. Chips
Had LG and MG in a horse race most of this trot. At the end, HG was closing. Bets on MG were up to 18 and HG seemed to be getting all the action. I was down 78 at spin 100 and bounced back a little to quit at -54 at spin 114. Had I stayed on a little I would have had -32 and then downhill from there until sping 142. Since I was so close to being down 100 at spin 100, I decided to bail.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
[/table]
Sam
Okay, here are the results from session 1. I am playing by the following MM rules (these are just for testing... changes may need to be made):
1-stop at +100
2-stop at -200 or -100 after 100 spins
3-stop at +50 after 150 spins
4-stop at break even if ever lower than -100 at some point.
Hopefully the table makes some sense.
when betting more than 1 unit on a number I use x2 (for 2 units) instead of [].
[table=,]
Spin,Group,Bet,Total,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
31,MG,,,,LG,MG,HG,C,,LG:,30,10,28x2,,,,
13,MG,,,,1,1,1,1,,MG:,4,5x2,13x2,15x4,24,31x2,14
23,MG,,,,2,2,2,2,,HG:,34,25x3,36x2,26,16,18,17
36,HG,,,,3,3,3,3,,,,,,,,,
4,MG,,,,4,4,4,4,,,,,,,,,
13,MG,,,,,5,5,5,,,,,,,,,
12,LG,4,,,,6,6,6,,,,,,,,,
30,LG,-1,-1,,,7,7,7,,,,,,,,,
8,HG,,,,,8,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,4,,,,9,,,,,,,,,,,
34,HG,-1,-2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
22,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
4,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
20,LG,30,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,-1,-3,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
22,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
10,LG,34-25,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
10,LG,-2,-5,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
27,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
12,LG,30-10,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
36,HG,-2,-7,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
9,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
16,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
30,LG,34-25-36,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,-3,-10,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
20,LG,34-25-36,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
13,MG,-3,-13,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
18,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
33,MG,4-5-13,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,-3,-16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
27,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
26,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
1,LG,4-5-13-15,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
26,HG,-4,-20,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
27,HG,34-25-36-26,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
16,HG,-4,-24,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
36,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
21,LG,34-25-36-26-16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,LG,-5,-29,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
10,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
7,HG,34-25-36-26-16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,-5,-34,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
20,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,34-25-36-26-16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,-5,-39,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
29,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,4-5-13-15x2-24,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
31,MG,-6,-45,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
2,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
12,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,34-25-36-26-16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,31,-14,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
33,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
12,LG,34-25x2-36-26-16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,-6,-20,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
3,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
21,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
12,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,4-5x2-13-15x2-24-31,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,64,44,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
29,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
16,HG,4-5x2-13-15x3-24-31,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,-9,35,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,LG,34-25x3-36-26-16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
36,HG,29,64,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
31,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
13,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
2,LG,34-25x3-36-26-16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,-7,57,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
33,MG,30-10-28,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
18,HG,-3,54,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
12,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,4-5x2-13-15x4-24-31,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,-10,44,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
33,MG,4-5x2-13-15x4-24-31,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,-10,34,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
16,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
20,LG,34-25x3-36-26-16-18-17,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,LG,-9,25,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
7,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
31,MG,4-5x2-13-15x4-24-31-14,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
31,MG,25,50,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
6,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
20,LG,4-5x2-13-15x4-24-31x2-14,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
13,MG,24,74,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
6,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
11,LG,4-5x2-13x2-15x4-24-31x2-14,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,59,133,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[/table]
Results: +133 in 103 spins. 27 bets made.
Cheers - more tests to come (don't you just love these tables!?!?)
Matt
Matt
I love those tables and I really love that +133 at the end of it all.
Keep on keepin' on.
I will post results today.
You know, I think I got the name of this system backward!!
Sam
Results from Session 2. Same rules as before but I think I will be adding another:
5 - When in the plus and one or more of your groups is betting more then 10 units, take profit. This will prevent the big downswings I think.
[table=,]
Spin,Group,Bet,Total,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
9,HG,,,,LG,MG,HG,C,,LG:,10,21x2,12x2,29,19x2,,,,
8,HG,,,,1,1,1,1,,MG:,14x2,15,4,24x3,6,22x2,32,31x2,23
35,HG,,,,2,2,2,2,,HG:,35x2,26x3,9,8x2,34,17x3,7,,
20,LG,,,,3,3,3,3,,,,,,,,,,,
35,HG,,,,4,4,4,4,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,5,5,5,5,,,,,,,,,,,
18,HG,35,,,,6,6,6,,,,,,,,,,,
26,HG,-1,-1,,,7,7,7,,,,,,,,,,,
20,LG,,,,,8,8,8,,,,,,,,,,,
28,LG,,,,,,9,9,,,,,,,,,,,
32,MG,35-26,,,,,,10,,,,,,,,,,,
35,HG,34,33,,,,,11,,,,,,,,,,,
7,HG,,,,,,,12,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,35x2-26,,,,,,13,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,-3,30,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
3,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
4,MG,14,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
26,HG,-1,29,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
20,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
35,HG,14,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,-1,28,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,14-15,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
9,HG,-2,26,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
33,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
13,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
19,LG,35x2-26x2-9,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
4,MG,-5,21,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
16,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,35x2-26x2-9,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
8,HG,-5,16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
26,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,35x2-26x2-9-8,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
8,HG,30,46,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
29,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
34,HG,35x2-26x2-9-8x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,-7,39,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
27,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,35x2-26x2-9-8x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
10,LG,-7,32,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
21,LG,35x2-26x2-9-8x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
21,LG,-7,25,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
21,LG,35x2-26x2-9-8x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
34,HG,-7,18,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,35x2-26x2-9-8x2-34,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
6,MG,-8,10,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
7,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
9,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
32,MG,10-21,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,-2,8,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
2,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
6,MG,14-15-4-24-6,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
22,MG,-5,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
8,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
3,LG,35x2-26x2-9-8x2-34-17,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
32,MG,-9,-6,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,35x2-26x2-9-8x2-34-17,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
31,MG,-9,-15,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
26,HG,14-15-4-24-6-22-32-31,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
12,LG,-8,-23,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
11,LG,14-15-4-24-6-22-32-31,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
29,LG,-8,-31,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
3,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
8,HG,14-15-4-24-6-22-32-31,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
19,LG,-8,-39,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
22,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,10-21-12-29-19,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,-5,-45,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
12,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
2,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
22,MG,35x2-26x2-9-8x2-34-17x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
26,HG,62,17,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
9,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
7,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
32,MG,10-21-12-29-19,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,-5,12,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
27,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
9,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
22,MG,10-21-12-29-19,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
31,MG,-5,7,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
30,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,35x2-26x3-9-8x2-34-17x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
0,0,-11,-4,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
18,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
2,LG,14x2-15-4-24-6-22-32-31x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,26,22,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
8,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
7,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
1,LG,14x2-15-4-24x2-6-22-32-31x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,-11,11,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
7,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
5,MG,10-21-12-29-19,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
7,HG,-5,6,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
7,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
9,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
1,LG,14x2-15-4-24x2-6-22-32-31x2-23,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
0,0,-12,-6,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
6,MG,10-21-12-29-19,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
21,LG,31,25,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
33,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
25,HG,10-21x2-12-29-19,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
19,LG,30,55,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
0,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
30,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
21,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
16,HG,14x2-15-4-24x2-6-22-32-31x2-23,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
22,MG,24,79,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
2,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
27,HG,14x2-15-4-24x2-6-22x2-32-31x2-23,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
12,LG,-13,66,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
22,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
18,HG,10-21x2-12x2-29-19x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,-8,58,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
6,MG,10-21x2-12x2-29-19x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,-8,50,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
24,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
22,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
16,HG,10-21x2-12x2-29-19x2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
29,LG,28,78,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[/table]
Results: +78 in 141 spins (close enough to 150 spins). 37 bets made.
People
My first day back to testing was not a good one. The CG took off and then the LG went after it. The others hung back. I don't like this. I knew at spin 100 to get out at the first chance. I do not like the CG at all. So I quit at -17 and did a few more to see what would happen. My next bet would have made a profit, but it went downhill from there.
So we lose 17........
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
[/table]
Hey Samster,
Have noticed a similar problem... which is why I'm thinking of resetting when one group gets to 10+units... just an idea. Atleast when one groups starts running away the losses don't add up.
Matt
Session 3 test:
[table=,]
Spin,Group,Bet,Total,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
21,LG,,,,LG,MG,HG,C,,LG:,29x3,20,3,1,,,,,
30,LG,,,,1,1,1,1,,MG:,33,31x2,32x3,14,24,22,13x2,5,6
36,HG,,,,2,2,2,2,,HG:,8x4,18,34x2,27,17,36,7,35,
33,MG,,,,3,3,3,3,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,4,4,4,,,,,,,,,,,
13,MG,,,,,5,5,5,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,6,6,,,,,,,,,,,
0,0,,,,,,7,7,,,,,,,,,,,
18,HG,33,,,,,8,8,,,,,,,,,,,
29,LG,-1,-1,,,,9,9,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,,10,,,,,,,,,,,
18,HG,29,,,,,,11,,,,,,,,,,,
20,LG,-1,-2,,,,,12,,,,,,,,,,,
29,LG,,,,,,,13,,,,,,,,,,,
8,HG,33,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
31,MG,-1,-3,,,,,,
17,HG,,,,,,,,
35,HG,,,,,,,,
10,LG,33-31,,,,,,,
32,MG,-2,-5,,,,,,
12,LG,,,,,,,,
1,LG,,,,,,,,
12,LG,,,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,
7,HG,33-31-32,,,,,,,
8,HG,-3,-8,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,
23,MG,8,,,,,,,
14,MG,-1,-9,,,,,,
3,LG,,,,,,,,
18,HG,33-31-32-14,,,,,,,
24,MG,-4,-13,,,,,,
31,MG,,,,,,,,
19,LG,8,,,,,,,
22,MG,-1,-14,,,,,,
1,LG,,,,,,,,
36,HG,33-31-32-14-24-22,,,,,,,
8,HG,-6,-20,,,,,,
18,HG,,,,,,,,
25,HG,,,,,,,,
23,MG,29-20,,,,,,,
18,HG,-2,-22,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,
34,HG,33-31-32-14-24-22,,,,,,,
8,HG,-6,-28,,,,,,
20,LG,,,,,,,,
21,LG,,,,,,,,
28,LG,,,,,,,,
13,MG,8x3-18,,,,,,,
13,MG,-4,-32,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,,,
20,LG,8x3-18,,,,,,,
34,HG,-4,-36,,,,,,
36,HG,,,,,,,,
29,LG,33-31-32-14-24-22-13,,,,,,,
3,LG,-7,-43,,,,,,
36,HG,,,,,,,,
21,LG,33-31-32-14-24-22-13,,,,,,,
27,HG,-7,-50,,,,,,
26,HG,,,,,,,,
29,LG,33-31-32-14-24-22-13,,,,,,,
1,LG,-7,-57,,,,,,
27,HG,,,,,,,,
4,MG,29-20-3-1,,,,,,,
17,HG,-4,-61,,,,,,
33,MG,,,,,,,,
24,MG,,,,,,,,
2,LG,8x3-18-34-27-17,,,,,,,
32,MG,-7,-68,,,,,,
32,MG,,,,,,,,
27,HG,29-20-3-1,,,,,,,
1,LG,32,-36,,,,,,
16,HG,,,,,,,,
35,HG,,,,,,,,
27,HG,,,,,,,,
1,LG,33-31-32x2-14-24-22-13,,,,,,,
13,MG,28,-8,,,,,,
17,HG,,,,,,,,
25,HG,,,,,,,,
19,LG,33-31-32x2-14-24-22-13x2,,,,,,,
31,MG,27,19,,STOP,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,,,
30,LG,8x3-18-34-27-17,,,,,,,
36,HG,-7,12,,,,,,
3,LG,,,,,,,,
14,MG,8x3-18-34-27-17-36,,,,,,,
7,HG,-8,4,,,,,,
26,HG,,,,,,,,
29,LG,33-31x2-32x2-14-24-22-13x2,,,,,,,
5,MG,-10,-6,,,,,,
6,MG,,,,,,,,
7,HG,29-20-3-1,,,,,,,
8,HG,-4,-10,,,,,,
31,MG,,,,,,,,
11,LG,8x4-18-34-27-17-36-7,,,,,,,
6,MG,-10,-20,,,,,,
4,MG,,,,,,,,
7,HG,29-20-3-1,,,,,,,
29,LG,32,12,,,,,,
16,HG,,,,,,,,
22,MG,29x2-20-3-1,,,,,,,
35,HG,-5,7,,,,,,
29,LG,,,,,,,,
18,HG,33-31x2-32x2-14-24-22-13x2-5-6,,,,,,,
29,LG,-12,-5,,,,,,
8,HG,,,,,,,,
27,HG,,,,,,,,
13,MG,29x3-20-3-1,,,,,,,
34,HG,-6,-11,,,,,,
20,LG,,,,,,,,
16,HG,33-31x2-32x2-14-24-22-13x2-5-6,,,,,,,
32,MG,60,49,,,,,,
32,MG,,,,,,,,
15,MG,,,,,,,,
34,HG,29x3-20-3-1,,,,,,,
18,HG,-6,43,,,,,,
16,HG,,,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,
28,LG,33-31x2-32x3-14-24-22-13x2-5-6,,,,,,,
31,MG,59,102,,,,,,
[/table]
Results: +102 in 120 spins. 33 bets made. Another winning session. You'll also note a "STOP" in the table. I marked this to note when a group got to 10+ units in size. I may consider this an exit point in the future, or a restarting point at the very least.
Records so far:
[table=,]
Session,Spins,Spins Bet,End Result
1,103,27,+133
2,141,37,+78
3,120,33,+102
[/table]
Session 4 - A much tougher session, but still ended positive at the end (although barely). Notice my "STOP" signal this time... would have saved me mucho trouble. Still, impressed on how it finished.
[table=,]
Spin,Group,Bet,Total,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
18,HG,,,,LG,MG,HG,C,,LG:,19,29x3,21x2,1x2,12,30,11,,,
28,LG,,,,1,1,1,1,,MG:,14x3,24,33,31,13x2,32,5,22x2,15,23
18,HG,,,,2,2,2,2,,HG:,18,17x2,36x2,9x2,16,27x3,8,34,26x2,35
32,MG,,,,3,3,3,3,,,,,,,,,,,,
36,HG,18,,,4,4,4,4,,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,-1,-1,,5,5,5,5,,,,,,,,,,,,
29,LG,,,,6,6,6,6,,,,,,,,,,,,
26,HG,18,,,7,7,7,7,,,,,,,,,,,,
19,LG,-1,-2,,,8,8,8,,,,,,,,,,,,
4,MG,,,,,9,9,9,,,,,,,,,,,,
31,MG,,,,,10,10,10,,,,,,,,,,,,
14,MG,,,,,,11,11,,,,,,,,,,,,
32,MG,,,,,,12,12,,,,,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
26,HG,14,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17,HG,-1,-3,,,,,,
29,LG,,,,,,,,
30,LG,,,,,,,,
20,LG,,,,,,,,
2,LG,,,,,,,,
25,HG,18-17,,,,,,,
36,HG,-2,-5,,,,,,
33,MG,,,,,,,,
0,0,,,,,,,,
33,MG,,,,,,,,
25,HG,18-17-36,,,,,,,
17,HG,33,28,,,,,,
26,HG,,,,,,,,
15,MG,18-17x2-36,,,,,,,
9,HG,-4,24,,,,,,
8,HG,,,,,,,,
31,MG,18-17x2-36-9,,,,,,,
29,LG,-5,19,,,,,,
17,HG,,,,,,,,
9,HG,,,,,,,,
30,LG,18-17x2-36-9,,,,,,,
16,HG,-5,14,,,,,,
16,HG,,,,,,,,
26,HG,,,,,,,,
35,HG,,,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,
2,LG,18-17x2-36-9-16,,,,,,,
27,HG,-6,8,,,,,,
30,LG,,,,,,,,
34,HG,18-17x2-36-9-16-27,,,,,,,
36,HG,29,37,,,,,,
9,HG,,,,,,,,
1,LG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27,,,,,,,
21,LG,-8,29,,,,,,
12,LG,,,,,,,,
27,HG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27,,,,,,,
24,MG,-8,21,,,,,,
33,MG,,,,,,,,
24,MG,,,,,,,,
23,MG,,,,,,,,
1,LG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27,,,,,,,
8,HG,-8,13,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,
20,LG,,,,,,,,
3,LG,,,,,,,,
5,MG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27-8,,,,,,,
34,HG,-9,4,,,,,,
5,MG,,,,,,,,
2,LG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27-8-34,,,,,,,
1,LG,-10,-6,,,,,,
25,HG,,,,,,,,
36,HG,,,,,,,,
5,MG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27-8-34,,,,,,,
33,MG,-10,-16,,,,,,
33,MG,,,,,,,,
36,HG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27-8-34,,,,,,,
31,MG,-10,-26,,,,,,
25,HG,,,,,,,,
22,MG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27-8-34,,,,,,,
27,HG,26,0,,,,,,
21,LG,,,,,,,,
29,LG,,,,,,,,
32,MG,14-24-33-31,,,,,,,
26,HG,-4,-4,,,,,,
28,LG,,,,,,,,
1,LG,,,,,,,,
36,HG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27x2-8-34-26,,,,,,,
27,HG,60,56,STOP,,,,,
16,HG,,,,,,,,
5,MG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27x3-8-34-26,,,,,,,
12,LG,-13,43,,,,,,
14,MG,,,,,,,,
5,MG,,,,,,,,
32,MG,,,,,,,,
13,MG,,,,,,,,
19,LG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27x3-8-34-26,,,,,,,
29,LG,-13,30,,,,,,
12,LG,,,,,,,,
21,LG,,,,,,,,
6,MG,19-29x2-21-1-12,,,,,,,
13,MG,-6,24,,,,,,
11,LG,,,,,,,,
2,LG,,,,,,,,
34,HG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27x3-8-34-26,,,,,,,
32,MG,-13,11,,,,,,
31,MG,,,,,,,,
4,MG,,,,,,,,
0,0,,,,,,,,
18,HG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27x3-8-34-26,,,,,,,
5,MG,-13,-2,,,,,,
19,LG,,,,,,,,
34,HG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27x3-8-34-26,,,,,,,
1,LG,-13,-15,,,,,,
13,MG,,,,,,,,
17,HG,18-17x2-36x2-9-16-27x3-8-34-26,,,,,,,
35,HG,-13,-28,,,,,,
22,MG,,,,,,,,
5,MG,,,,,,,,
11,LG,19-29x2-21-1x2-12,,,,,,,
9,HG,-7,-35,,,,,,
12,LG,,,,,,,,
32,MG,18-17x2-36x2-9x2-16-27x3-8-34-26,,,,,,,
22,MG,-14,-49,,,,,,
2,LG,,,,,,,,
28,LG,,,,,,,,
33,MG,14-24-33-31-13-32-5-22,,,,,,,
13,MG,28,-21,,,,,,
7,HG,,,,,,,,
24,MG,18-17x2-36x2-9x2-16-27x3-8-34-26-35,,,,,,,
22,MG,-15,-36,,,,,,
35,HG,,,,,,,,
7,HG,,,,,,,,
1,LG,18-17x2-36x2-9x2-16-27x3-8-34-26-35,,,,,,,
15,MG,-15,-51,,,,,,
30,LG,,,,,,,,
21,LG,,,,,,,,
6,MG,18-17x2-36x2-9x2-16-27x3-8-34-26-35,,,,,,,
29,LG,-15,-66,,,,,,
5,MG,,,,,,,,
20,LG,19-29x3-21-1x2-12,,,,,,,
14,MG,-8,-74,,,,,,
6,MG,,,,,,,,
4,MG,,,,,,,,
0,0,,,,,,,,
13,MG,,,,,,,,
4,MG,,,,,,,,
2,LG,14x2-24-33-31-13-32-5-22x2-15,,,,,,,
14,MG,61,-13,,,,,,
9,HG,,,,,,,,
23,MG,18-17x2-36x2-9x2-16-27x3-8-34-26-35,,,,,,,
21,LG,-15,-28,,,,,,
2,LG,,,,,,,,
18,HG,18-17x2-36x2-9x2-16-27x3-8-34-26-35,,,,,,,
23,MG,-15,-43,,,,,,
26,HG,,,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,
21,LG,14x3-24-33-31-13-32-5-22x2-15-23,,,,,,,
30,LG,-13,-56,,,,,,
13,MG,,,,,,,,
8,HG,19-29x3-21x2-1x2-12-30,,,,,,,
26,HG,-10,-66,,,,,,
27,HG,,,,,,,,
35,HG,,,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,
6,MG,18-17x2-36x2-9x2-16-27x3-8-34-26x2-35,,,,,,,
11,LG,-16,-82,,,,,,
34,HG,,,,,,,,
0,0,,,,,,,,
13,MG,19-29x3-21x2-1x2-12-30-11,,,,,,,
29,LG,97,15,,,,,,
[/table]
Results: +15 in 165 spins. 41 bets made.
Records so far:
[table=,]
Session,Spins,Spins Bet,End Result
1,103,27,+133
2,141,37,+78
3,120,33,+102
4,165,41,+15
[/table]
That's it for today :)
Matt
If I played right (thanks to matty for explining full time in chat :) that I atleast understeand it)
result is:
[table=,]
Session, Spins , Balance
1,70,+63
[/table]
[table=,]
Session,Spins, Balance,Total
1,70,+63
2,110,+59,+122
[/table]
Check pic, nice recovery
I am looking for 50 units stopwin
o.k thanks mr chips, I will have to pratcise this system before I get realy sure what I have to do in some situations :) will aim for more :)
Quote from: Mr Chips on September 03, 2008, 03:01:00 AM
Matt,
You are right about the 10 units not as a stop, but a caution to exit within 90 to 130 spins where possible. It's especially true for losses as you will find most will be in the -50 range. The tricky losses are the ones above -50 and after 130 spins. That's why I have recommended a final exit around 160 spins.
I look forward to yours and Sam's results here.
Mr Chips
Hey Mr. Chips,
thanks for the comment. I agree with you on not stopping at the 10+ unit range, but perhaps a restarting point would be a good idea (whether in the plus or minus).
More tests on the way!
Matt
[table=,]
Session,Spins, Balance,Total
1,70,+63
2,110,+59,+122
3,116,+22,+144
[/table]
Today, 9.3.8, was a little better.
I was up over a hundred at about spin 117 but decided to stick with it a bit. I quit at 88 at spin 141 as it was going down hill. The CG was taking over for good and I'm not comfortable with that guy. Good thing I did. At spin 196 I would have been down 37. So lets call it 88 as I'm sure I would have chickened out and quit there.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
[/table]
Not a good day. Seems three of the four Sections were locked in a race and the one I bet one was seldom in the lead. I went down well over a hundred and when I got to within the <50> range I bailed at -46.
I should explain the above. When i had:
MG
HG
The LG would be the section in the lead. I could not bet for LG as I had no LG, so I would have to go for MG or HG or CG, whoever was next in line. Seemed to jump all over hell and half of Texas.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
[/table]
Do you realize how good it is that I have been able to hold on as long as I have?
Sam
Thanks for the update Sam,
working on my 5l lines post right now, but hopefully next week I can get some more testing in.
Cheeers,
Matt
[table=,]
Session,Spins, Balance,Total
1,70,+63
2,110,+59,+122
3,116,+11,+144
4,177,-181,-37
[/table]
well I am still practicing, I dont know when is optimal exit point, I could stop at -100units that is true yes :)
There is excel file in my attachment and RXsession data
number are in attachment
Today 9.5.8 was a bummer in the first order. I am now beginning to wonder if I'm doing this right!
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
[/table]
Mr. Chips
The numbers are posted raw under actuals 9.5.8 pages 1 and 2
If you want to see the sheet after I worked it, I will scan and post that under a temporary post. I'll take it down when you're through.
Which ever you want.
I have a question if you're not hot at me!! LOL You've answered it, I think but I can't find the answer.
Sam
I will post it right here.
I took down ernesto's post with the link to the program.
Sam
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Mr. Chips
Thanks for your explanation, I will take this rules to practice exit points [smiley=4/zorro.gif]
Is that slow drawdown at beginning usual?
cya
[table=,]
Session,Spins, Balance,Total
1,70,+63
2,110,+59,+122
3,116,+11,+144
4,177,-181,-37
5,55,+72,+35,(real play)
[/table]
I decided that +72 is good enough after 3 consecutive wins of MG group which was getting close to 10 units per bet
yes,
I mean that most of the time at beginning it will take some time before getting hits :)
Mr. Chips
Thank you for your time. Yes, it was a rough patch, to say the least.
Now if we had been playing a progression...........
OUCH!
Sam
I still have the faith!
Yesterday's numbers were better. 9.6.8 Not going to work Sunday.
I started off rough and when I pulled ahead +57 at spin 118, I quit. I went on to see what would happen and it got ugly. I just don't seem to win when CG is running off from the pack. Still, I pulled a bit out of the fire.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
[/table]
Gut wrenching pain....... -57
Was really hoping for some good days to make up for my $200 loss, but not to be. This was yet another strange session. I had very few numbers that hit twice and most of my completed Sections were with numbers who were first time hitters, so no money in the drawer. Again, the CG took over the race and it was 19 to 10 at the wire. Haven't had a LG, MG, or HG last long in days. CG always overtakes and outruns them
Tomorrow is another day.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
[/table]
Much better day!
Although the CG once again took over and ran off from the pack, we seemed to actually get some hits out of it. +81 at spin 153
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
[/table]
I am probably making a mistake by not staying with this longer, but I am very tired and still have two more systems to test today plus post the numbers. :'( OK, PityParty's over!
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
[/table]
Probably should have stayed to spin 130, but I'm happy.
Sam
Good day. I could have quit at about 122 with +39 but I had a lot of numbers with three bets on them and one with four. The four-hit (17) on spin 139. Profit 108
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
[/table]
Bad day!
Things did not look good at spin 97 when I was down only 33. For the first time in days some group other than C was taking the lead, so I stuck with it. At spin 111 I was down 38. At spin 136 I was down 108, but I had some numbers that had hit three and four times, so I pressed on. I finally threw in the towell at spin 155 as it did not look like I was going to make it back to the -50 range. Down 138 for the day.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
9.12.8,<138>,362
[/table]
Mr. Chips
Thanks for that advice. In all honesty, today was a problem with Sam and not the system.
I have no trouble walking away ahead, but I have a devil of a time walking away a loser. So what do I do? I hang around and become a bigger loser!
This is why I banned myself from real-money play for 45 days. Now--I'm doing it with fun money!
I will learn......
Sam
Well, crud.......
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
9.12.8,<138>,362
9.13.8,<76>,286
[/table]
Water haul........
On spin 118 I broke dead even and I didn't like the way things were going, so I checked out.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
9.12.8,<138>,362
9.13.8,<76>,286
9.14.8,0,286
[/table]
Mr. Chips
You thought I'd lost the faith, didn't you!! LOL Today the M took off and the numbers were there!! I wanted to stay and see what happened, but 212 is good for me. I quit at spin 81.
We's good.......
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
9.12.8,<138>,362
9.13.8,<76>,286
9.14.8,0,286
9.15.8,212,498
[/table]
Yeah, I felt pretty good myself!!
Mr. Chips
I think I am just now getting to the point where I am making very few, if any, mistakes. I have it down to a step-by-step process so I don't have to ask if I put a mark here or there.
I am reluctant to change the rules in the middle of my test. I'm thinking about what you say and I may take a look at it on paper, but I prefer to fight my way to the end of September as I am.
October is a new world!
Sam
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
9.12.8,<138>,362
9.13.8,<76>,286
9.14.8,0,286
9.15.8,212,498
9.16.8,52,550
[/table]
Excellent day! Stopped at spin 113.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
9.12.8,<138>,362
9.13.8,<76>,286
9.14.8,0,286
9.15.8,212,498
9.16.8,52,550
9.18.8,95,645
[/table]
Bad day.........
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
9.12.8,<138>,362
9.13.8,<76>,286
9.14.8,0,286
9.15.8,212,498
9.16.8,52,550
9.18.8,95,645
9.19.8,<125>,520
[/table]
Mr. Chips
Am I to understand the Table of Available Numbers should look like this:
[table=,]
LG,MG,HG,C
,,,l,m,,h
,,,1
[/table]
where the number 1 was a low number and CG was in the lead?
Sam
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
9.12.8,<138>,362
9.13.8,<76>,286
9.14.8,0,286
9.15.8,212,498
9.16.8,52,550
9.18.8,95,645
9.19.8,<125>,520
9.20.8,<74>,446
[/table]
I was not feeling well at today's test, so I rather cut it short at 52 up. This testing is for the birds!!
Sam
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
8.16.8,200,200
8.18.8,-55,145
8.19.8,63,208
8.??.8,57,265
8.22.8,188,453
8.23.8,25,478
8.24.8,-54,424
9.2.8,-17,407
9.3.8,88,495
9.4.8,-46,449
9.5.8,-201,248
9.6.8,57,305
9.8.8,-57,248
9.9.8,81,328
9.10.8,54,392
9.11.8,108,500
9.12.8,<138>,362
9.13.8,<76>,286
9.14.8,0,286
9.15.8,212,498
9.16.8,52,550
9.18.8,95,645
9.19.8,<125>,520
9.20.8,<74>,446
9.21.8,52,498
[/table]
Mr. Chips
I am going to need an exact definition.........
What is/are "select spins"? I thought, from reading all your posts, it was this:
3LG
4MG
34HG............I was under the impression the "select" or "selecta" spin was the one that completed the Section, as this 34 would.
I cannot correlate the numbers in the above post to my charts. Which day? 20, 21?
After you activate the A/E with the select spin 11, the select spins never change from the original, far left column.
Every time I run across something I don't understand (like the 1 vs 3 crossing in winkel's system) I must stop and get closure on that issue as I begin to doubt if I'm doing the system right.
I am still trying to figure out the "28" chart. Don't know what that is and can't relate it to any numbers.
Sam
Mr Chips
Sorry for my confusion. I did find the correct sheet and justify the numbers. I tried to take down the post, but didn't get back in time.
I will work this as you have and try to see what you are doing. Let me paraphrase the rules as I understand them:
When C Section is in the lead and some other Section is in second place and the C Section lost but had you bet on the Section in second place, you would have won----this activates the expanded l m h C Section.
L
M......now wanting H for C Section
L......but got L. Next spin, switch to expanded C Section and use ls.
L
M.......now wanting H for C Section
M.....but got M. Next spin, switch to expanded C Section and use ms.
Is that the A portion? Am I even close?
Sam
Mr Chips
Perhaps I could ask this:
Quote........
17 -13
11 -15
15 -20
31 -25.......Do you activate the C Table after the 31 comes.........
11 -29 A 11 +2.......or after the 11 comes?
Next question:
You have C Section in the lead and you activate the C Table....Now, are you still betting for a C Section or are you betting for the 2nd leading Section which caused you to activate the C Table?
Sam
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This is 9.20.8.p1
At spin #39 my C Section was in the lead. I wanted an LG number to come at spin #40, but I got an MG. I had numbers for MG in the Available Number Section, so I would have won had I been betting for MG to occur. This triggers the C Table.
Now, I am exclusively using the C Chart. L is in the lead there, so I bet on the L numbers in the Available Number Chart. I am no longer wanting a C Section, but rather wanting whatever is in the lead in the C Chart. The C chart has trumped the Main Chart.
Anywhere close?
Sam
Mr Chips
"I can't imagine anyone putting in the time I have done to do all the hand testing of the 4Selecta, but it has helped me enormously to evaluate a session and more times my judgement of a session is correct.", you wrote.
No, I can't imagine a more tenacious fellow than you. I am sure you have more hours in this than you can count. I expect to be repaid for my hours and I'm sure you do, also.
My work is fraught with mistakes due to my A.D.D. and other problems, but I am still ahead and not discouraged.
I actually think this is good for me, mentally!
Thanks for all your efforts.
Sam
Is this any closer:?
"Now, I am exclusively using the C Chart."....as long as the C is in the lead in the Main Chart.....
When C levels with any other Section, I go back to normal betting.
Summary:
I'm just betting as always....UNTIL....(1) C is in the lead in the main chart AND (2) I would have had a winner had I bet the second leading Section. (Two conditions must be met!)
THEN: I switch to the C Chart and bet accordingly UNTIL the C Section in the Main Chart is equaled by another Section. (Only one condition must be met.)
I really think I have it; we just mix words!
Sam
Mr Chips
I am starting today's session now and will post both sheets.
Sam
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
9.21.8,52,498
9.22.8,<50>,448
[/table]
Mr Chips
Today I will re-do the sheet until I get it right. In all my years at roulette you are the first person to ever check my work.
Naturally, the computer at Wild Jack does!! It's no wonder I can't win!
Sam
Mr Chips
Unless you just want to, there is no need to post. I duplicated your results.
I don't know how I missed those wins.
Sam
I was @134 @spin 77, 138 @ spin 113 but dropped to 88 trying to make 200. Quit at 128.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
9.21.8,52,498
9.22.8,<50>,448
9.23.8,88,536
[/table]
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
9.21.8,52,498
9.22.8,<50>,448
9.23.8,88,536
9.24.8,<51>485
[/table]
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
9.21.8,52,498
9.22.8,<50>,448
9.23.8,88,536
9.24.8,<51>,485
9.25.8,<56>,429
[/table]
Mr Chips
I need some guidance. My high was plus 82 at spin 90 and the dropped to 55 at spin 128. Would you have quit at 55 up at spin 128? Sheets are posted. Sheet had C far in lead with many 2 and 3 times numbers on the Available Number Chart. I wanted to go on and I had a double win next Section!! :-\
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
9.21.8,52,498
9.22.8,<50>,448
9.23.8,88,536
9.24.8,<51>,485
9.25.8,<56>,429
9.26.8,55,484
[/table]
Mr Chips
Very good information. You know I'll apply your ideas to other systems. OK, I'll pay a small commission!
Sam
..ahem..
The check is in the mail!!
Sam
Mr Chips
I'm beginning to think I'm doing something wrong after seeing your results recently posted. I don't know if I'm making mistakes or what.
I'll keep working!
Sam
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
9.21.8,52,498
9.22.8,<50>,448
9.23.8,88,536
9.24.8,<51>,485
9.25.8,<56>,429
9.26.8,55,484
9.27.8,<55>,429
[/table]
I guess I....ahem hak kaf....."should" have quit at sping 123 when I had 37. The zeros killed me after that. I had several numbers with four and one with five on them, so I was hoping for a big hit. Not to be...........
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
9.21.8,52,498
9.22.8,<50>,448
9.23.8,88,536
9.24.8,<51>,485
9.25.8,<56>,429
9.26.8,55,484
9.27.8,<55>,429
9.28.8,6,435
[/table]
Mr Chips,
You have told me in another post that you were approching +100 units. Could you tell me how many spins you've done? What is the frenquency of betting? And finally how many units are bet on average when you do bet. Please don't tell me to look at the system. A a matter of fact, I have looked at it but not long enough to get the answers to these questions. I think it should be rather easy for you to figure the answer.
(By the way, and this is most surprising, I have mentioned on a few occasions that I actually sat down for more than 150 000 spins and came up ahead around 3,5%. Flat-betting only. Not one soul has asked me anything about what I have achieved. Now, this is REALLY surprising.)
Insidebet
Insidebet
QuoteI keep hoping someone is coming up with something new. I know I am, and it will be in General Forum
You said you were going to post, whatever you had, in General Forum.
I didn't know we had to ask about it before actually reading it.
If that's what you're waiting for, then by all means, I am curious and interested.
Please post what you have discovered.
Thank you
TTT
Tic tac toe,
What I will "publish" will be under Brainstorming, not General forum. My mistake.
My winnings have come from a totally different source. Nothing to do with what's coming to Brainstorming. They came from playing biased wheels. To date, that is the only way i know where you are99,9% sure to win on the long term. If you want to know more, just ask. But I tell you in advance: it is very easy to calculate but you have to be prepared to put in the hours.
The Insider
Insidebet
If you have the time ( if you wanna take the time ) to write this up, I, for one, would like to hear about it. As for having time to put in to it ... that's not a problem.
Where I play, there's 1 croupier for a dozen terminals. There are also other terminals in the Casino. They're all hooked up to this one table. LCD monitors show you the wheel at all times. Seeing it's a Croupier spinning the wheel, I would imagine it's the same as playing at a real table. Just faster than playing at a real table.
Would the above description work with your method of play ?
Thanks in advance
TTT
Today was an ugly day. When I quit, all four Sections were tied with 4 wins each. This thing just see-sawed from one section to the other with no clear leader. So I ate the loss at spin 68.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
9.21.8,52,498
9.22.8,<50>,448
9.23.8,88,536
9.24.8,<51>,485
9.25.8,<56>,429
9.26.8,55,484
9.27.8,<55>,429
9.28.8,6,435
9.29.8,<46>,389
[/table]
I went further with this run than I should have, spin 146. I should have quit at spin 116 when I was up 99.
[table=,]
Date,Win/Loss,Running Total
9.21.8,52,498
9.22.8,<50>,448
9.23.8,88,536
9.24.8,<51>,485
9.25.8,<56>,429
9.26.8,55,484
9.27.8,<55>,429
9.28.8,6,435
9.29.8,<46>,389
10.1.8,70,459
[/table]
I will now begin the table anew using real money. There may be gaps in the dates; I'm playing as I wish.
Yes, I did. Should I post them?
This was not a good way to start the real money test and depressed me greatly! I saw something I had never seen before and had to stick with it a while.
In this whole trot of about 120 numbers, there was only one Middle Section. Only two middle numbers ever hit in all the Select spins, so my ANC had only two MG numbers in it. The HG was running off and had a pot full of numbers with three and four hits. I just knew I would get one and never did.
Such is gambling!!
[table=,]
Date,,,Win/Loss,,,Running Total
10.16.8,,,<100>,,,<100>
[/table]
So I lost $50.
Sam
That sucks Sam.
You'll get 'em next time. ;)
Shorty
Thanks! The "gambler" in me takes over sometimes. 'Course I could have hit one of those four-timer numbers and did pretty well.
So, I'll remember the words of me ol' granpappy: "When you find yourself in a hole, get a bigger shovel!"
Sam
Mr Chips
I never got a single hit!
Sam
Mr Chips
Please understand that part of my problem--that which stands in the way of my becoming a winning player--is my inability to walk away as quickly as I should. There was a time when I would have lost the entire $200 in my account rather than $50.
This was the most unusual situation I have seen since I've been testing this system. Since I was playing live, I went back and double-checked every spin for accuracy.
In my favor, I did set a loss limit of 100u and I stuck with it.
Sam
[table=,]
Date,,,Win/Loss,,,Running Total
10.16.8,,,<100>,,,<100>
10.24.8,,,66,,,<34>
[/table]
Did my own test on todays wiesbaden spins
spins till exit: 151
selective spins: 41
units: +160
It looked like a bad start but it recovered once it started to hit something :)
I will do more tests in RX when I will have time
btw do you have any spreadsheets for easyer trycking or do you use paper?