Hi there !
I was very suprised when i discovered this forum, i was hanging for long time on some other places (for example The VIP lounge forum)
but this place suprised me with quality and fresh energy :)
Now I want to share with you my playing method
I hate to call it system as my personal opinion is that ALL SYSTEMS fail at the end
but playing METHOD for me incorporates some SKILLS with system and, more importatly, strict RULES which we apply when we
play systems in general. It means that we must pay huge amount of care for defining WIN and LOSS MARGINS, escape margins
and playing tactics in general. In my opinion these things are far more important than any system itself.
OK, now i can explain basics of my system which is very simple, but in my opinion also very effective.
I have tested it with RX and weisbaden spins, and still need to fine-tune it, and that is where and why i need feedback from you
we are playing these numbers
1,6,8,11,15,16, 21, 22, 26, 29, 31, 36 for 50 spins MAX with this strict rules:
Starting bankroll for each session = 300 units
(I know this is quite large sum for real betting but this is just for demo purposes)
There is no progression, we are putting 5 units on each number (60 units)
[1] We are counting how many times we failed to see number from this list. When we got 2 miss, than we start to bet on them
[2]We stop to bet after 2 wins and reset loss counter (we are starting to count losses from 0)
[3]We stop to bet imidiately if session profit is > 900
[4]We stop to bet imidiately if session bankroll < 450 and current spin (from beggining of session) > 25
[5]We stop to bet imidiately if current spin (from beggining of session) > 50
[6]After each session wait for at least 20 spins to begin new session
How to test it using RX ?
[1] Download rx if you dont have it :)
[2]Download real spins from Weisbaden casino, but divide it into tables (small files with cca 300-400 spins)
[3]Load my method
[4]Test it
[5]Give feedback here :)
system "beta"
{
}
method "main"
begin
While Starting a new Session
begin
copy list [number 1,number 6, number 8,
number 11,number 15,number 16, number 21,
number 22, number 26, number 29, number 31,
number 36] to record "Numbers" layout;
put 0 to record "wincount" data;
put 0 to record "losscount" data;
put 0 to record "count" data;
put 0 to record "maxspinswithoutwin" data;
put 0 to record "maxspinswithoutwinT" data;
end
Copy Last Number to the Record "last number" layout
add 1 to record "count" data;
If Record "last number" layout is found in Record "Numbers" Layout
begin
add 1 to record "wincount" data;
if record "maxspinswithoutwinT" data > record "maxspinswithoutwin" data
begin
put 100% of record "maxspinswithoutwinT" data to record "maxspinswithoutwin" data;
put 0 to record "maxspinswithoutwinT" data;
end
end
If Record "last number" layout is not found in Record "Numbers" Layout
begin
add 1 to record "losscount" data;
add 1 to record "maxspinswithoutwinT" data;
end
if bankroll > 900 begin stop session end
if bankroll < 0 begin stop session end
if bankroll < 450 and record "count" data > 25 begin stop session end
if record "count" data > 50 begin stop session end
if record "losscount" data > 2
begin
put 5 units on record "Numbers" layout list;
end
if record "wincount" data > 2
begin
put 0 to record "wincount" data;
put 0 to record "losscount" data;
put 0 units on record "Numbers" layout list;
end
end
Example from (good) session 24_9_2007 table 3
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
0,',,,,,,300,
1,'0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,300,
2,'25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,300,
3,'8,Bet,60,180,-60,120,420,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
4,'23,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,360,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
5,'26,Bet,60,180,-60,120,480,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
6,'9,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,420,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
7,'8,Bet,60,180,-60,120,540,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
8,'10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,540,
9,'12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,540,
10,'4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,540,
11,'20,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,480,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
12,'4,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,420,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
13,'31,Bet,60,180,-60,120,540,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
14,'20,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,480,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
15,'0,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,420,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
16,'29,Bet,60,180,-60,120,540,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
17,'27,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,480,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
18,'33,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,420,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
19,'9,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,360,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
20,'29,Bet,60,180,-60,120,480,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
21,'3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
22,'3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
23,'2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
24,'36,Bet,60,180,-60,120,600,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
25,'4,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,540,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
26,'0,Bet,60,0,-60,-60,480,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
27,'1,Bet,60,180,-60,120,600,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
28,'22,Bet,60,180,-60,120,720,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
29,'21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,720,
30,'28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,720,
31,'13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,720,
32,'6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,720,
33,'20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,720,
34,'8,Bet,60,180,-60,120,840,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
35,'9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,840,
36,'23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,840,
37,'16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,840,
38,'15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,840,
39,'0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,840,
40,'8,Bet,60,180,-60,120,960,5 : 1,6,8,11,15,16,21,22,26,29,31,36
What a coincidence! Gamlet's Dozen!
Cheers
/Compa
Hi,
Sure this dozen is from him ! I had no intention to steal ideas.... maybe i had to put it straight from where are these numbers., sorry I ommited it unintentionally .. But I implemented these on my rules and tried to benefit from it. That is why this form of communicating is great: we are sharing ideas for same puporse - to get benefit from it, dont you agree [smiley=rolleyes.gif]
Quotewe are sharing ideas for same puporse - to get benefit from it
Yes sir, welcome to the crew and be certain we always love to know about everyones' Roulette ideas/systems.
By the way, I agree with you in that the way on faces a system and observing the cycles can be more important than the system itself.
Of course, you can't play without the criterion, because you use it as a guide.
I'm with you on that manistra!
[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
Regards,
Victor
huh? sorry that I am not familiar with Gamlet's dozen.
is there some magic in those 12 numbers? :)
BobbyBobby
I would be interested in knowing why these as well.
Well if that is Gamlet's dozen, then he simply got it from Numeris's square of the sun. Its the cross in the square of the sun (diagonal numbers). They are called magic numbers. And they do seem to hit alot.
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I don't understand. The probability of any number hitting is 1/37 per spin. What's so special about any particular set of 12 numbers. Where is the roulette physics in this approach?
You could randomly put those 36 numbers in any squares and get the same result. Some runs of numbers it will look good others it will fail miserably. So I'll make up my own square.
cd
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on November 30, 2008, 06:28:31 PM
I don't understand. The probability of any number hitting is 1/37 per spin. What's so special about any particular set of 12 numbers. Where is the roulette physics in this approach?
They dont hitting no more then others. With these numbers you can read all other numbers if you know how they are connected with figures end ends and they open all doors to winning roulette. The construction of the square represant figure 6. 105.96.87.69.60.51.42.33.24.14.6. (111-105=6, 111-96=15=1+5=6, 111-87=24=2+4=6.......)
Cheers
its a nice idea mate, im just curious as to why you would wait only 20 spins to start a new session? maybe waiting for a loss would be a better entry point
Square of the sun is not original from Numeris, it is an ancient figure.
You can see other info about this one in here:
nolinks://jesus8880.com/chapters/gematria/666-magic-square.htm (nolinks://jesus8880.com/chapters/gematria/666-magic-square.htm)
Cheers,
Rjl
I think people are mistaken that some numbers have diferent values then others.. If you look at the wheel, what is the diference between number 8 and 23.. Well, 8 is black and it is number 8, and 23 is red and number 23.. But erase the color and number and what do you get? pocket.. and there is no diference.. so if roulete would have numbers from 0-32-15......26 aranged like 0-1-2-3....36.. there would be someting to the number.. But numerology doesnt have any effect on roulette.. In numerology every number is connected, but you can't predict it.. if you do you just got lucky.. Roulette will remain round and it will have pockets "Square of the sun" will remain square and it will have numbers.. I have seen alot of people study that thing.. but so far I havent seen that someone would succeed.. And I can still see that people who studied wheel as a physical device.. They still succed
:) RJL,
Yes it's called the ancient square of the sun. And yes Numeris didn't invent it. What I meant is that she seems to be the person that first used it in roulette.
@ Gavioli,
Seems to me you know alot about the square. Maybe you can teach me and others who are truly interested.
Even if you don't know the square perfectly I need some new view on the square.
Cheers mate
Jakk ;)
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on December 01, 2008, 04:32:17 AM
@ Gavioli,
Seems to me you know alot about the square. Maybe you can teach me and others who are truly interested.
Even if you don't know the square perfectly I need some new view on the square.
Cheers mate
Jakk ;)
Hello jakk,
I know square perfectly, i just dont know how exactly to read it in the game, because it is important which numbers you must group and which position you must read before you make the selection. It is very important to understand every little details and connections if you want to win airtight. There are more then one solution of the square, but only one is correct for the roulette.
When you observing the square, you must upset numbers and put everything in order, because if you look square static, then you will see only figures. Open your mind and use everything you know and im sure you will see hidden things. First look in to the layout and then in to the sun square. There are 6 readings of the square and also 6 readings on the layout.
Cheers
Quote from: Boo_Ray on December 01, 2008, 04:02:06 AM
I think people are mistaken that some numbers have diferent values then others.. If you look at the wheel, what is the diference between number 8 and 23.. Well, 8 is black and it is number 8, and 23 is red and number 23.. But erase the color and number and what do you get? pocket.. and there is no diference.. so if roulete would have numbers from 0-32-15......26 aranged like 0-1-2-3....36.. there would be someting to the number.. But numerology doesnt have any effect on roulette.. In numerology every number is connected, but you can't predict it.. if you do you just got lucky.. Roulette will remain round and it will have pockets "Square of the sun" will remain square and it will have numbers.. I have seen alot of people study that thing.. but so far I havent seen that someone would succeed.. And I can still see that people who studied wheel as a physical device.. They still succed
I think you missed the point here. A number its a number, and a pocket is a pocket, no more than that. If 32 comes out on the board, 23 is not more likely to hit. Its all about movements, and the numbers itself its just a guide to get the movements. Relation between numbers in roulette is no more than distances that create the movement.
First you have to know why the numbers on the wheel are arranged like that, and so on the square.. and specially whats the meaning of it.
Cheers
Hey gavioli mate,
Are you studing this stuff for long time?, Do we know each other?
JD
Quote from: J.Daniels on December 01, 2008, 08:45:16 AM
Hey gavioli mate,
Are you studing this stuff for long time?, Do we know each other?
JD
Yes and No.
I will stay quiet as I see that you believe in mystical powers or whatever..
just be carefull
Is that Spiderman and what they hey is this on his head???
Drivin' me nuts!!
squirel!!!!!!!
Actually, Gamlet was into numerology and a few months ago had a section that was heavy into it. When he left, he decided to take his section with him and the debate stopped (at this forum, as far as I know) until now.
Personaly, I'd like to see a section where people could exchange info about numerology.
Of course there would be allways someone to say it's rubish...
I prefer to keep an open mind, learn and test first.
Cheers,
Rjl
I personally dont believe how numerolgy can be involved in the game of roulette, all roulette is, is a ball spinning one way and a wheel spinning the other, eventually the ball meets the wheel, bounces around abit and lands, there is nothing mystical of mystrerious about it and i think people only believe in it because they want to believe it works, its quite possible that gamblet etc, just use some kind of VB and have dressed it up in a fancy name like numerology, people spend to much time looking for answers within topics like numerology and i think they are barking up the wrong tree to be honest
You are entitled to your opinion.
However. I assure you, you are wrong. If you haven't ventured into the Numerology side of roulette then honestly how could you form an opinion?
My limited knowledge of numeris (and it is very limited) so far has served me well.
You know Ryan I also didn't believe in it until it was proven to me.
Remember, people believed that the earth was flat once.
Jakk
i just dont think roulette works like that, and i reckon no-one is ever going to unlock these secrets because they dont exist, its the same sort of thing about rolling a pair of dice, whatever results comes up just happens, nothing more to it then that.
they believed that earth was flat and they were wrong
people used to believe the world was flat yes but its not even a relevant comparison.
I don't think numerology will work just because of the numbers. It could work if you adapt it to the particular wheel that you are playing at.
I may test that theory out at Fallsview tomorrow (Actually later today).
Ron.