Not public.
interesting LS
Cheers LS, I have played a couple hundred spins with profit. I am going to take a small risk and start the progression bet with 2 units. I don't know if I am playing it the right way but I am just betting RBB cycles continuously with progression :o Will I make it this time round ???? Will let you know later on.
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Hhhmmm yes it worked again, but I had a scary moment when the progression went up to 7 spins ( starting progression with 2 units instead of 1 ) A good result again but a lesson learned, will go again tomorrow with 1 unit start. Average Profit for today made :good:
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Quote from: Lucky Strike on January 12, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
I am not sure you are doing it correct, can you show how you do it ?
LS
I am playing the Martingal-esque progression (doubling up each bet). I wait for a RBB sequence to show, then start
bet 1 RED
bet 2 BLACK
bet 4 BLACK
bet 8 RED
bet 16 BLACK
bet 32 BLACK
ECT ECT RBB RBB upto max progerssion 10 spins. 90% of wins are on 1st and 2nd spins.
If it's wrong let me know. It works for now, but could be just pot luck? I will play again tommorrow and see.
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I have played around 700 spins now, with no losses using double up progression. Longest progression has been 7 spins. This is an incredible system and I congratulate you.
The main concern I have is a repeating pattern of the opposite betting pattern in cycle. Say I bet RBBRBBRBB and it comes out as BRRBRRBRR that would stuff it up and also a cluster of zeros would do as much damage. I would say this a 99.9% safe system for 0.10 but it would take 2 hours to win 20.0
I will continue on into the abyss.
Uly Man, If you can mix this method with that local positivism system, you'd be ferocious! :aggressive:
:lol: this a playful kitten system compared to mine. You should test it out PR. Don't change the cycle after a win just the progression back to start amount. Just keep betting RBB RBB RBB forever. It can't be just a fluke.
OK Uly, to have more fun you can play your strategy even on BRR, LHH, HLL, OEE, EOO. If you see that combination it would be a trigger to bet. What do you say?
Hermes
There's an old saying 'If it ain't broke (yet) don't fix it' I will look in to them even so, I don't forsee any more or less difference than play ing B and R. The thing which is wrong with the overall strategy is the appearance of 2 or 3 zero's these take your progression near breaking point and eventually I can predict that this clustering of zeros will inevitably be the down fall in the future. I have a plan though. Though I need ideas from you and others on how to implement it. What if I bet the zero as well, to preempt a cluster of zeros? Would I need to bet the zero after every 35 spins and wait till it hit before I reset it? Would anyone know if this is a good counter-zero-attack-strategy?
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French roulette la prison is even better. If zero comes and the same color or what ever you bet comes again you get your bet back. Theoretically, you lose on zeros only 50 % of the bets.
Lucky but your strategy on the 500 000 spins test is to bet against the RBB not the RBB self like ulysses does? (counter bets of ulysses). That means if you spot a RBB you bet that it doesn't come in the same formation again. Am I right?
Cheers Hermes
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I thought that immediately after you spot the RBB you play against that it doesn't happen that way again?
The last post of you says like you already burned your fingers on your strategy RBB, is it true?
Example how I understand it:
RRR
RBR
RBB this formation of 3 is a trigger to bet next spin black
R L next spin bet red
B L next spin bet red
R won on 3 rd spin red.
Hermes
Your right LS I don't have the patience to wait for the triple pattern formation to play this system correctly, and yes Hermes I play my pattern bets in a completely different method to LS's. The only reason I did that is that I never fully understood LS's description of the system and by mistake created a radical hybrid :wizard: method of 'experimental even chances' meaning it's very far removed from the original method but is born out of LS's RBB pattern. I should remove my posts in this thread for that reason. But even though it was born out of a mistake, isn't that where other good ideas are sometimes derived from? Also LS I may use your progression model at a later date, I just need to see how the one I am still using pan's out. Not yet lost, max progression still under 10. Even if I hit the first losing progression I will still be in profit. Until that happens I will then rethink the strategy. Will remove threads tommorrow after you have read this guy's.
.LS
Thanks Lucky now I finally understand it. I almost created a new version like ulysses.
Ulysses you must not remove your tweak it belongs here, especially if it is a successful tweak. Keep it here and inform us about your results. Every good take widens the vision. You know, all great discoveries on this planet actually happened after somebody made a mistake? It happens for a reason, like yours. I believe that even holy grails happen through making mistakes.
LS your strategy is actually selected random ECs system. You select one color and ad 2 random colors to make a holy triangle. It should work on EO and LH also. Very interesting. Guys if you would use the penthouse progression I mentioned here it would be very difficult to lose with sufficient bankroll of $2,000.
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Quote from: Lucky Strike on January 19, 2010, 04:07:40 AM
This is the random flow.
BBRBBBRBRBBBRBBRRBRRBRBRRRRRRB BBBRRRBBBRRBBRBRBBBBBRRBRBRBBBBRBRBRBRBBRBBBBBBBBRRBBB
Here is our sequense with the continues flow.
Note this example is a variation of LS's to show how I am playing now. Using the random string of R and B's above.
BB RBB BRB R B B BRB BRRBRRBRB R RRR RRBB B BRRR B B BRRBB RBRB BB B BRRBRB R B B BB RBRB R B RBB RBB B BB B BB RR B B B
[RBB RBB R B B RBB RBBRBBRBB R BBR BBRB B RBBR B B RBBRB BRBB RB B RBBRBB R B B RB BRBB R B BRB BRB B RB B RB BR B B R+33 from 84 spins
each block is a win, the blocks below it are the betting pattern. The long block BRRBRRBRB took the progression up to 9 which is the longest I have seen up to now. The only times this has come near this for me is with a cluster of 0 zeros eg BR0B0RB0B. A tweak I have added is, if a zero shows in the early stage of the progression I stop play. I start progression at 1.00 but you could start it at 0.10 on French la partage roulette, if you are able too. Hermes can you put your penthouse progression up again please, I can't find it. Still not lost a progression (yet). Be carefull out there.
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The Penthouse progression is simple and powerful for both dozen/column and ECs.
5-5-10-10-15-15-20-20-25-25-30-30-35-35-40-40-45-45-50-50 and so on increase one unit depends on bankroll size (unit $5).
At ECs if won a bet circle it and cross one more below. At D/C if won a bet circle it and cross 2 more below. Bet the remaining left over. Similar Alembert progression for D/C at win +1 unit, at 3 losses - 1 unit. For ECs at win +1 unit, at 2losses -1 unit. Both ways very effective! I won lot of money with Alembert on one D/C. Could be used on the alternating dozen/column idea by Motorbike's.
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Hey Lucky you had a post last year based on a random col or doz.
I think you played the last spun col or doz six times and if no win you played the last spun col or doz six more times do you remember.
You said it was 100 percent random.
Stuart
Today I was toying with these two ways to play.
I had to wait so long to play RBB that I started playing BRR is that the reverse I dont know but they both did well except I started getting confused lol lol.
RBB
BRR
I guess it matters what is running at the time.
Stuart :)
Why Lucky? This was just getting interesting....
Why did you pull the plug on your experiment LS?
Quote from: bikemotorman on January 24, 2010, 10:15:28 PM
I had to wait so long to play RBB that I started playing BRR is that the reverse I dont know but they both did well except I started getting confused lol lol.
RBB
BRR
bikemotorman, I keep track via the last spins list if I get confused, which happens every 15 mins lol. And that's just with RBB cycles. A tip is not to look at anything except the R and B betting squares and remember what amounts are progressing to bet. Simples. After an hour look at your balance, grin with joy and play tomorrow.
So far this IS strange how this workS it strange I have won a bunch of spins playing THIS WAY VERY RELAXED TOO.
RBB
BRR
AND IT REALLY WORKS LOL
STUART
Quote from: bikemotorman on January 25, 2010, 03:09:48 PM
So far this IS strange how this workS it strange I have won a bunch of spins playing THIS WAY VERY RELAXED TOO.
RBB
BRR
AND IT REALLY WORKS LOL
STUART
So you're just playing RBB then BRR, stopping on a win I'm guessing? What progression are you using may I ask?
Lucky has posted this before it seems.....
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/just-for-fun-even-chances/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/just-for-fun-even-chances/)
I will just play RBB only I keep getting confused when I play both.
So I will just play RBB and no confusion lol I hope.
I use Penthouse progression.
25 25 50 50 75 75 100 100 125 125 150 150 175 175 200 200 225 225 250 250 275 275 300 300 go home.
Stuart
I play like so wait I for RBB show then I play the same RBB till I win when I win I wait for RBB to show again then play RBB over and over again lol.
Stuart
This could go for any even chances, Baccarat, Sports, any competition involving two teams and three games series.
Progress Report - not lost yet. approx 7k spins. Tip 1 - stop play if zero shows and play another system/strategy for a bit. I will dump system play on my first loss of 10 progressions, will only lose less than a 3rd of profit, with luck that might not be until another week.
PS Proofreader - it could be the anti randomness of random even chance betting grail. I'm not joking, I think this is as good as it gets for even chances. Someone tell my why it isn't? I don't buy LS's sny remarke that a static approach is a fools approach. How do you know LS?
PPS where's that Lucky Strike gone. I did and do read your posts and so do many others.
bikermotorman, you keep saying this is strange which reminded me of that song from the Lost Boys movie 'People are Strange'
Lyrics
People are strange when you're a stranger
Faces look ugly when you're alone
Women seem wicked when you're unwanted
Streets are uneven when you're down
When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name
So we should name it the the Lost Boys Strategy, or the Strange Strategy. Any ideas?
I'm glad you're feeling good about this Uly. I have quite a few ideas I want to bring to this. (Too many for this thread I'll start another.)...as for names, how about The Safe Strike System?
The word 'safe' in the title is not true. It implies there is no risk, whereas the reality is that it is a high risk, high roller strategy if you use the Martingale progression model that I use. So we can't really put 'safe' in the title. If I lose a 10 step progression I lose a 1000, it could happen on the first attempt for some unlucky player. What about Strange Luck High Risk High Reward Even Chances Roller from team Lucky, Hermes, Bikermotor, PReader, Ulysses and any one else who contributes.
HI ULY,
THIS IS PRETTY COOL SO FAR, I USE A MARTINGALE TYPE PROGRESSION AND COVER ZERO MOST OF THE TIME,
I THINK THIS IS SAFER THEN PLAYING TWO DOZENS OF COLUMNS LOL.
PLAY RBB ONLY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN WAIT FOR RBB TO FORM AND PLAY TILL WIN.
RBB/LWL/LLW/WWW/LLL/LLW/WLL/LWW/LWL/LWL/WLL/WLL/LLW/WLL/WWL/WLL/LLW/ DONE
GAINED 390.00 DOLLARS IN 1 HOUR ON JEBET THIS THING IS UNCANNY HOW IT WORKS HOW IT WOULD
ON A DOUBLE ZERO WHEEL I HAVE NO CLUE.
I WAS USING 25 DOLLAR UNITS.
STUART
Your a crazy dude bikermotorman lol Playing $25 units is really greedy of you and I'm jealous as I start at $1 or sometimes a few $5 start units. Your table limit will stop you from losing to much I hope 'if' you lose. Stop being greedy and grind your profit with low bets and long hours. lol
Quote from: Ulysses on January 26, 2010, 03:13:07 PM
Your a crazy dude bikermotorman lol Playing $25 units is really greedy of you and I'm jealous as I start at $1 or sometimes a few $5 start units. Your table limit will stop you from losing to much I hope 'if' you lose. Stop being greedy and grind your profit with low bets and long hours. lol
NO NO JEBET PLAY MONEY, IN THE CASINO I WOULD PLAY 10 DOLLAR UNITS LOL.
BUT THIS REALLY DOES SEEM TO WORK AND FUN TOO, WHEN I GET A WIN I WAIT A BIT FOR ANOTHER SERIES OF
RBB, THEN I PLAY TILL I WIN.
BECAUSE YOU WAIT FOR A RBB, THEN PLAY YOU PLAY, YOU DONT GET STUCK WAITING FOR A SERIES OF TEN BLACKS OR REDS BUT SO FAR I LIKE IT AND IT WORKS.
GO TO CHAT ULY.
STUART BRANDT :)
THE SESSION FROM FROM HELL HERE IT IS 4 ZEROS IN NINE SPINS I LOST NO BIGGIE.
PLAY RBB ONLY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN WAIT FOR RBB TO FORM AND PLAY TILL WIN.
PLAY RBB TILL YOU WIN.
FIBONACCI PROGRESSION=10=10=20=30=50=80=130=210
RBB=LLL
RBB=LWW
RBB=WWL
RBB=WWW
RBB=WWW
RBB=LL0 WON ON ZERO
RBB=L0L WON ON ZERO
RBB=L00 WON ON ZEROS WOW WHAT THE HECK FOUR ZEROS IN NINE SPINS WOW LOL.
RBB=LLL
HERE IS THE LESSON WHEN YOU GET A ZERO WAIT FOR A NEW RBB TO FORM.
STUART :)
Quote from: Ulysses on January 26, 2010, 03:13:07 PM
Your a crazy dude bikermotorman lol Playing $25 units is really greedy of you and I'm jealous as I start at $1 or sometimes a few $5 start units. Your table limit will stop you from losing to much I hope 'if' you lose. Stop being greedy and grind your profit with low bets and long hours. lol
what is wrong play with higher unit ??? if you want win it is obvious that you need bet high btw 25 unit per color is joke i play doubles with 100 quiet normaly. and normal patterns i play with 10 ns and lots of skipping spins depenc which wheel- some wheel give cosistently one color after couple blacks orr reds i find out especialy playtech casinos is wery hard have sequence like RRRR BB MOST of time it is rrrr b rr from 20 attempts i had 18 times red after black and 1 day when i try it out i loose 6 bets before my stupid ignorant head figure out that this way i didnt get any profit:)))) in 3 hours play i get 4 losses on RRR BB OTHERS WAS RRR B RR on dublin bet the same wheel number 1 give RRR BB MOST OF TIME and the number two give RRRR B RR IF IS MORE ONE COLOUR LIKE 5 ORR SIX REDS THEN GIVE BB NORMALY GIVE ALL TIME CONSISTENTLY BBB R BB
Quote from: Bo0Merang on January 26, 2010, 05:00:02 PMin 3 hours play I get 4 losses on RRR BB OTHERS WAS RRR B RR on dublin bet the same wheel number 1 give RRR BB MOST OF TIME and the number two give RRRR B RR
( W=WIN P=PROGRESSION )
I don't think you are playing it the right way, you would have won RRR BB sequence WPP PW with the pattern cycle RBB RBB
RRR B RR = WPP P PP that's only $16 ( total of all bet combined 16 + 15 = $30 ) of a partial 5 step progression ( I go up to 10 steps ) you where flatlined because of your high starting bet. I would have been able to continue on up to 10 steps progression.
RRR BB = WPP PW this was two wins.
RRRR B RR = WPPW W PW this last one of yours was four wins.
Also, the clever part of this is if you get 18 reds or blacks in a row you win and win more on the black repeats as the cycle is RBB so 18 blacks BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB = PWWPWWPWWPWWPWWPWW is 12 wins and a red reeater RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR = WPPWPPWPPWPPWPPWPP is 6 wins.
Do you follow it now or I may have misunderstood what you originally said. No worries, Uly
I thought we had to wait until RBB comes in. After that we have to play RBB-RBB-RBB-... with progression until we win.
After a win, we have to keep waiting until a new RBB comes in and we will play...
I made a mistake?
Hi ULY
Sometimes play RBB if there seems to be lots of black coming up or I BRR red is showing I think you need observe what the wheel is doing I think it is best to wait for RBB or BRR to show before you enter the BATTLE.
The other day I kept losing because I would not stop and reset after a 0 or wait for my RBB OR BRR I now find it prudent to wait for my trigger to play lol.
That is after the wheel beat THE JEBET THE CHIPS OUT OF ME LOL LOL.
Stuart
Jebet pratice chips lol lol.
I find this is fun to play lol.
Stuart
hi lommerartje, there are no fixed rules for this strategy as it is experimental, I play for real money but am still only experimenting with it, I expect it to fail eventually, but I have the luxury that I have made it past the profit loss point that others might not reach. I wait for a RBB and play continuously until I hit a zero 0 , then I stop. Others play the way you thought by only playing once only till win for every BRR trigger that comes in to play. And bikermotorman alternates between BRR and RBB depending on the colour bias. So no standard strategy has been fixed yet.
Bikermotorman, what are we going to do about the zeros? There must be a better solution than changing the progression or covering the zero. I might start covering the zero but only when it appears and remove it after the progression has won. I will try this today as I cannot lose now anyway, in fact I can lose up to 3 10 step progressions, but I will stop on the first ever loss and keep my profit lol
I don't know what you think bikermotorman, but I think this even chances strategy is the stuff of legends :rabbi:
Well I don't want you to lose your money, but no matter what I tell you, you end up doing it the other way around.
Lucky for does who copy it and understand it.
This is how one session looks like.
Around 37 with out flat betting.
Around 30 with flat betting.
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Glad you are back Lucky Strike. It is an ingenious strategy that can branch to many applications.
I wanted to add some considerations to this method.
Here is the Henry One System halves of the wheel
European Wheel
A. 1st Dozen, 25-30
B. 2nd Dozen, 31-36
American Wheel
A. 1-6, 13-18, 31-36
B. 7-12, 19-24, 25-30
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And Iboba's Simple and Profitable Method
European Wheel
A. 1-6, 13-18, 31-36
B. 7-12, 19-24, 25-30
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You could play A,A,B or B,B,A along with the other three Even Chances (High/Low, Red/Black, Odd/Even)
Cheers! :thumbsup:
Here is an other session my way of doing things -lol-
WWLWWWLWWWLWWLWWWWLWLWWLLWWWWLWLWWLWWWLWLWWWLLLWLL 32/18 +14
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Quote from: Ulysses on January 26, 2010, 06:26:30 PM
( W=WIN P=PROGRESSION )
I don't think you are playing it the right way, you would have won RRR BB sequence WPP PW with the pattern cycle RBB RBB
RRR B RR = WPP P PP that's only $16 ( total of all bet combined 16 + 15 = $30 ) of a partial 5 step progression ( I go up to 10 steps ) you where flatlined because of your high starting bet. I would have been able to continue on up to 10 steps progression.
RRR BB = WPP PW this was two wins.
RRRR B RR = WPPW W PW this last one of yours was four wins.
Also, the clever part of this is if you get 18 reds or blacks in a row you win and win more on the black repeats as the cycle is RBB so 18 blacks BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB = PWWPWWPWWPWWPWWPWW is 12 wins and a red reeater RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR = WPPWPPWPPWPPWPPWPP is 6 wins.
Do you follow it now or I may have misunderstood what you originally said. No worries, Uly
SEEMS like i get lost ))totaly
What happened to luckys first post on this thread did he remove it and why I read most of these posts on my blackberry so please lucky put the method back in this thread so we can learn, lucky you put a post a year ago about a random dozen or column idea it you play last doz or col
Six times if no win on seventh spin play last spun doz or col till spin number twelve if no win stop.
Lucky do you remember that post it was random against random I played this at times and it does well.
Stuart
Yes you only have to search for that post I have not delete it.
I will only make the following statment.
There is only one thing we can know for sure regarding an 50/50 situation, it has an constanc present change.
Any one that attempt to capture does moments using the distribution of singles and series will fail.
Any one that attempt to capture does moments using any kind of static pattern or combination of pattern will fail.
Good Luck
LS
This method gains money slowly but I play what the wheel is handing out.
So if there are lots of reds play BRR
If there are lots of black play RBB
If you get a zero stop and wait for a triple of RBB OR BRR whatever the wheel favors dont fight the tide sail with it lol.
Stuart
AND REMEMBER PAY ATTENSION LOL :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:
Lucky is right keep it liquid/alive not static/rigid. Roulette is not rigid it is alive. You never know what comes next!
hermes
Well I must say this way of playing is much fun after I woke up andstarted waiting for my RBB OR BRR to come things are going much better.
Now when I get a zero I just reset then wait for my trigger which may be RBB OR BRR and play you do build profits but I have to start my progression at 10 dollars I will try this one.
10 10 10 20 30 50 80 130 210 300
Maybe it will work.
Stuart
Biky, do you repeat the formation of 3 or bet the opposite like Lucky does? Eg. came RBB then you bet next 3 spins RBB or BRR?
hermes
I play the same so if RBB shows then that is what I play.
If BRR shows that is also what I play.
I am not sure if playing inverted like LS is helping or hurting he desires most of the time to put a random.versus random effect on his methods.
That may or may not help but he has some great ideas.
Stuart
It would be a good idea to combine both strategies. If you lose on the same say BRR apply inversion RBB. Combining a like with inversion because sometimes inversion has a big hole and sometimes the same formation has a big hole. So you would make the (cover) the holes a little bit smaller.
Hermes
LS i bet your happy I dug this post out of the woodwork 77 replies, 78 now, and to think it had 0 replies when i found it. It might just be some form of grail
I don't think there is a holy grail, but we are happy to come by the casino and be there a few hours have some fun and maybe take some of there money.
I think this method can put some money in your pocket but we must pay attension so if you get a zero stop and reset wait for a RBB or a BRR and start again.The other day I was getting killed by the wheel I losing four out of five spins so I said wait a minute timing is important let me not play non stop.
So now I wait for my triggers RBB or BRR and stop reset on zero and wait a bit lol it is more prudent.
LOL
Stuart
Quote from: hermes on January 29, 2010, 10:11:35 PM
Lucky is right keep it liquid/alive not static/rigid. Roulette is not rigid it is alive. You never know what comes next!
hermes
No he's not hermes. The static approach is better than the random v's random approach. The way Lucky and another system just posted Genisis are trying to predict the future pattern of B and R's. This is a futile attempt to control randomness.
The static approach deals with a constant ( RBB cycle ) that is also a variable ( RBB i.e it is not either R or B). It is the ingenious meshing of a constant pattern with a variable colour that makes it a stronger contender than Lucky's and Genisis's prediction models as my RBB static model is not a prediction based approach. You keep chasing your tails and you will eventually get a face full of your own mess :suicide:
Lucky is waiting for spin with R and putting down 2 more spins result after that first R spin. Eg. RBR and bet inversion if it like BRB and so on. It must not be RBB or BRR. What comes after the Red is valid as trigger for triple bet.
Ulysses are you still winning with the only RBB formation?
Hermes
Live is good not bad I think static pattern will work for the short term, that is what we want we play for a couple of hours and hope to leave with a few hundred dollars more in our pocket then we came with lol.
LS has the idea that random versus random is a good thing but that may be a bad thing.
If you keep seeing the wheel hitting RBB why would you invert your bet selection and lose three times go with the tide don't fight it, this a very streaky game, yes it is.
How many times have you played and you have seen 5 reds in a row so you bet the reverse and what happens you witness 10 reds in a row.
Murphys law what ever can happen will and most of the times when you expect the reverse lol.
Stuart
Uly how is the method holding up are you still playing RBB.
Stuart
I wanted to add why not try a positive progression with this system. Advancing the bet 1,1,2,2.
@hermes @bikermotorman yes I'm still playing RBB, played way over 12,000 spins, but it did fail eventually as I predicted, but also it did not fail if you know what I mean. I lost approx a 5th of profits. In one way it was my own doing as I would bet the zero normally if it showed, as a cover bet. I didn't cover it today for some reason ( over confidence ) and hit a string of 6 zeros, each time I hit one I said to myself, there won't be anymore lol but there was. This first ever loss I put down to player irresponsibility. I am still carrying on though and taking more breaks. You become almost robotic when you play too long. Can't complain though lol
Hey Uly,
Same story the day this method let me down I was not covering the zero on jebet play money of course but I knew better I got the chips beat out of me lol.
I always thought the grail would be betting on two dozens with a LW count but who knows you could play virtual with take 2 virtual losses and save your bankroll a headache.
I thought steve morgan used a method like this at one point but now only plays dozs and cols with a virtual lw count.
Just like you can't win them all.
You also can't lose em all lol.
Stuart
Uly you must always cover zero when you use bigger bets remember $urphys law when you don't cover zero that is when some of the time it comes.
I was thinking your playing RBB is a good thing when you stop at a zero and wait for a RBB to show and then play.I think this can create a kind of like Bruce Lee the martial arts guy said a broken or uneven pattern which could be a good thing.
I think that is what Lucky is doing.
He does say to start a progressoin like this table minimum is 10 dollars so like so 10 10 10 20 30 50 80 130 200 300 and remember to cover zero with the higher bets.
Here in the US we would have to cover both the zero and double zero lol.
So uneven pattern is maybe a good thing lol.
How about we play ROB red odd then black who knows it could work.
So play red then odd then black one after the other one at a time lol.
Stuart
I mean to say RYTHEM, we may want to use a broken or uneven RYTHEM sorry is that spelled correct I am making this post on my BLackBerry phone lol.
Stuart
Quote from: bikemotorman on January 31, 2010, 08:15:15 AM
How about we play ROB red odd then black who knows it could work.
So play red then odd then black one after the other one at a time lol.
I'm superstitious, and ROB looks a bad omen to me, as in ROB me of a win lol. Seriously though, Red, Odd, Black could work, anything is worth a few tests. That's how discoveries are sometimes made. I would test OEE or LHH before I branch off on a new method as they are still 1:1 odds. Content with the hybrid I play now with the Martingale progression up to 10 steps. Might have a mess about later in fun money with that ROB idea of yours or change it to ROOB.
Hi Uly,
I did not mean to sound like a idiot but if it works it works.
My other method I have been using the last spun columns then last spun dozens method is good but miss a couple of times and you have a problem that you can't dig out of lol.
Even when playing 2 dozens you can still lose 7 times in a row and that is playing half the time in virtual mode lol.
They say roulette is one of the hardest games to master lol.
I still think RBB and using it as a uneven Rythem is a good just wait for a RBB then enter the battle and stop and wait after you get a 0 00 then restart when you get another RBB easy lol.
Stuart
hi bikermotorman, I personally am going to stick with the even chances 1/1. There is the draw of faster profit playing the 2/1 doz's or col's. But there is also the higher risk factor and I don't like extra risk lol. I did a session of LHH today and was impressed. It may have the edge on the RBB routine or it may be the same. Time will tell. Didn't test the ROB yet. I don't think you can ever master roulette, but you can always be sure it will swing wildly in both directions, its never negative/positive for long. Bet low and stay in the game.
Uly,
With the ROB red odd black just play one at a time kind of going round and round first play Red then play Odd and then play Black.
I would wait for a red to start the battle lol.
I will try it tomorrow on JEBET play money of course and remember when you hit zeros stop lol.
Stuart
I wouldn't mix all 3 ECs together. I tested some time ago the strategy of Atlantis and it works well. First look the scoreboard what comes more B or R and if R bet always R/O together or B/E together, no opposite! No charting, bet those chosen 2 combination every spin for 10 spins, flat. If in minus bet the next 10 spins with 2 units and when on the end still in minus bet next 10 spins with 4 units each. You cannot lose that battle. If any time in plus reset each to 1 unit. It is effortless winning.
If you look at the scoreboard you can see immediately who is scoring better. If there is B more than R you bet RBB, more O than E bet EOO, more S than B bet BSS (not BS). Go with the trend. I would play it only on European roulette!
Hermes
Hi Uly,
I did the rob bet for a while and gained 90 bucks in a half hour, this feel so strange you have no clue if you will win at all.
What progression should I use starting with 10 dollars table max is. 300 dollars.
Thank you for your help goys.
Stuart
I mean guys sorry about that.
Stuart
Hey Uly,
Ok the first session with ROB was pretty good but the table minimum is 10 dollars I bet LS has progression for me.
So it has to go from 10 dollars to 300 dollars lol.
Red
Black
Odd
Even
High
Low
What other names can we come up with for the even chances.
Stuart
Played a bunch with RBB today it just seems to work I had I think 5 losses in a row but, when I started to play virtual till I had LL it really started to do well and it is fun.
I am using fibo progression.
10 15 25 40 65 105 170 305.
Stuart
Here is RBB on jebet today.
I still like this deal why I dont know.
I wait for RED BLACK BLACK to show then play, stop when you hit zero and wait for RBB then play again.
FIBONACCI PROGRESSION IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS USD 10=15=25=40=65=105=170=305
RED= LLLWWWLWLWLWWW
BLK= LWWLLLWLWWWZWL
BLK= WWLWLLWLLLWLWW
Stuart :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
biky, or other strategy would be wait just for R and 2 more spins and then bet 3 times opposite. Eg. came RBR the next 3 bets BRB if lose wait for next combination of 3 starting with R. Eg, RRB the next 3 bets would be BBR and so on...you quasi break the sentences apart.
hermes
QuoteHere is RBB on jebet today.
I still like this deal why I dont know.
I wait for RED BLACK BLACK to show then play, stop when you hit zero and wait for RBB then play again.
FIBONACCI PROGRESSION IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS USD 10=15=25=40=65=105=170=305
RED= LLLWWWLWLWLWWW
BLK= LWWLLLWLWWWZWL
BLK= WWLWLLWLLLWLWW
Hi I just want to mention that there is no need to use any-thing else then 1 1 1 before you increase your bets.
I don't play like you do I use an different method I just feel that if you are going to play that way you have to be careful.
Take a look at the LW Registry above.
LLLWWWLWLWLWWW = 11121111111111 = + 3
LWWLLLWLWWWZWL = 11111121111111 = +1
WWLWLLWLLLWLWW = 11111111112111 = +1
The highest bet is 2 units.
Method is to let the loses reduce your win target and escape when the bad tram is hitting you.
You can let every lose become an indication from where you should stop playing.
Lets assume you aim for 5 units and you hit an lose then your target is 4 units and so on.
This way you have more control over what you do and one option is to end up +1 or break even at 0 with out increase you bets to much.
Above you can see you just play with no tought and end up +3 +1 and +1.
Below you can see that if you would have done the same thing with some tought you would end up +1 +0 and +0
And if you would not be greedy you would end every session with +1 or break even if you hit an negativ tram using an humbel fibo. +1 +1 and +1.
L 1 win target 4 -1
L 1 win target 3 -2
L 1 win target 2 -3
W 2 win target 2 -1
W 1 win target 2 +0
W 1 win target 2 +1 <<< +1
L 1 win target 1 +0
W 1 win target 1 +1
L
W
L
W
W
W
L 1 win target 4 -1
W 1 win target 4 +0
W 1 win target 4 +1 <<< +1
L 1 win target 3 +0
L 1 win target 2 -1
L 1 win target 1 -2
W 2 win target 1 +0
L 1 win target 0 -1
W 1 win target 0 +0
W
W
Z
W
L
W 1 win target 5 +1 <<< +1
W 1 win target 5 +2
L 1 win target 4 +1
W 1 win target 4 +2
L 1 win target 3 +1
L 1 win target 2 +0
W 1 win target 2 +1
L 1 win target 1 +0
L 1 win target 0 -1
L 1 win target 0 -2
W 2 win target 0 +0
L
W
W
So the LW Registry would have been LLLWWW - LWW - W = LLLWWWLWWW = +3
One option I use is to play with high value chips like 5 x 50 Euro chips and when I am +1 with my method I play with casino money.
Then I lower my bankrol to 5 x 10 Euro chips and aim for +5 but end up at +2 +3 +1 +4 and so one.
Above would have generate 70 Euro profit flat betting where the two last session was with casino money where you could not lose, worst would have been that you go home even, as i see as an win/win situation, as you did not lose.
Good Luck
Patrick
Ok so start the progression with 10 10 10 20 30 50 80 130 210 340
That is ten steps progression.
I guess if you hit step 8 you need to take a brake lol.
Stuart
I guess you don't get it and i have to spell it out for you.
If your win ratio is 100 session with +1 then 99 of does is with casino money.
Think once and twice before you play with real money.
Patrick
Uly how is the RBB method doing I still am liking it a bunch and it is easy lol.
Stuart
HERE IS SOME PLAY TODAY ABOUT 90 MINUTES ON JEBET DEALER KATE.
PLAY RED BLACK BLACK ONLY.
I HAD ONE ZERO ON THE LAST SPIN I ALWAYS COVER ZERO WHEN THE BETS ARE OVER 15 DOLLARS.
LWL=WWL=LLW=LLW=LLL=LLW=WWW=LWW=LWW=LWL=LWW
LLW=WLW=WLW=WLW=LWW=WLW=LLL=WWZ
PROGRESSION 10=10=10=15=25=40=65=105=170=305
PROGRESSION IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS
I AM REALLY LIKING THIS DEAL AND SO EASY TOO PLAY.
STUART :)
Uly are you still playing this and what is the minimum you can bet on red or black in the UK.
Stuart
does anyone have the details of how LS played this? all of his entries seem to have been removed...
I think he played something like this:
-wait dominant color from the last 5-7 spins
- when red dominant bet RRBRRB. . . . until plus 1 or more
- when black domin. ,bet BBRBBR. . . . until plus 1 or more
Flat bet 1112 , or 1122
Progression 111222334. . . . until +1(or loss ), ....start again.
This method that Uly writes about actually works. With that I mean to bet when RBB has showed up.
I think I do it right. .
we say this:
B,R,B,R,B,B
In the end it is RBB and then I bet 1 on RED, thaths right yes?
If I loose I wait for next RBB and bet 2 on red and so on. . But, I always stop on betting 8, so i only bet 1,2,4 and 8. If I loose I only loose 15 and I havn't loosed yet. But I have only played for say 3 hours in total of 4 days.
I have not loosed for 4 times in a row yet, but it will happen soon, I think. But, I only loose 15 then :)
I always stop the whole betting process if the 0 cames out. If i'm at betting 4 and zero comes out then I stop and bet 1 on the next RBB.
I will soon bet more, I will begin at 2 or 3 units.
2,4,8,16
and then
3,6,12,24
Thanks for sharing this amazing system :)
Makes me a little extra income.
thanks for that info, let us know how you keep up with it!
Wrong fripper, LS bets against the appearance of the RBB. He would bet BRR. He wait for red coming and two more after and than bets contrary to that trio formation. Eg. BBBRBRBBBBRBB. He would chose RBR and RBB and play against that formations to appear.
Cheers Hermes
Sorry, I'm not following atm. Can you please give a further explaination?
Hmm, so if
B,R,B,RBB
Then I wait to B,R,R appears and then bet on?
/Fripper