I briefly mentioned an E-Book written by my mentor in an earlier thread, and it has created some interest.
He really intends to sell it on ClickBank in due course, but I have permission to release free copies for review and comment by the knowlegable people who inhabit this forum, for a limited time.
It's called 'Businesslike Roulette' and may be read at - sysgam.com/rsc/ebook.html - which is a very temporary URL - so get in before he decides to remove it!
I think it's pretty good - but then I'm pretty much of a 'newbie' - so see what YOU think, and use the e-mail link in the final chapter to let him have your comments, via me.
I don't necessarily classify myself as "the knowlegable people who inhabit this forum", but I'll comment on it anyway, and do so here, rather than at his/her site -
Why would anyone allow you to release something for free if they intend to sell it later? However, I'm not familiar with ClickBank.
I might take a closer look later, specifically the staking plan, but at a glance it has the tell tale signs of a SCAM
The name makes me feel the need to vomit
Most people hate sellers, though there are some exceptions, maybe
RP
Quote from: rouletteplayer on September 05, 2008, 11:18:33 PM
I don't necessarily classify myself as "the knowlegable people who inhabit this forum", but I'll comment on it anyway, and do so here, rather than at his/her site -
Why would anyone allow you to release something for free if they intend to sell it later? However, I'm not familiar with ClickBank.
I might take a closer look later, specifically the staking plan, but at a glance it has the tell tale signs of a SCAM
The name makes me feel the need to vomit
Most people hate sellers, though there are some exceptions, maybe
RP
His reasoning is is 'to get some informed feedback'! (I don't necessarily agree either! But I'm helping a friend!)
Reactions may vary all over the place - but if you don't like it, you don't use it! (Just like every other 'system' on this site and elsewhere.) But you won't know until you have at least seen it, and possibly tried it!? (If you can do that without entrenched prejudices causing you to vomit, thereby destroying your cool objectivity!) And there is nothing compulsory or costly about it!
Incidentally, if you think Roulette is not a 'business' - you really should take a closer look at a casino and its shareholders!
I don't have any "friends" that are sellers/scammers.
Quote - "His reasoning is is 'to get some informed feedback'! (I don't necessarily agree either! But I'm helping a friend!)" If you don't whole heartedly agree with your "friends" system then why help him set up a business to rip off others?
How does one differentiate between scammers, their so-called friends, and those in the process of setting up a scam?
I can't believe that Lanky and Sam are allowing this forum to be used to help establish another seller. RP
Rouletteplayer
We are watching this thread, as is Victor.
Victor has been made aware of my feelings and Lanky has probably weighed in.
Sam
Sam,
Thanks. I guess I should have known better. As always, don't hesitate to correct me when I'm wrong. RP
Hello Rouletteplayer.
Mate You can rest assured that if there is even a whiff of a sale this thing will come to a screeching Halt.
The word "Donations" got My attention in another post about this.
I have had a look at the site on day one & here is My reply to one of our members by PM.
QuoteWow Mate Thats $9708 outlay in 9 Bets.
So if it goes past the 9th bet thats the amount You have lost Cobber.
Bloody Hell Mate You will want a Gigantic Bank to play this if it runs into a few lost sessions in a row
As you can see RP we have our fingers on the pulse mate.
Your Friend
Lanky
The word "Donations" got My attention in another post about this.
Hi Lanky,
I'm interested to know where you came across the word 'Donations' in reference to this thread!
Certainly not from me, as I've never had the shadow of an idea on such a thing, and can't find a post from anyone else that has mentioned it!?
Best wishes, HewieB.
Hi HewieB.
My Mistake substitute the word "Donations"
For "contributions."
And thats what got My Attention Mate.
Irrespective of how it was meant that was the word that caught My eye (it always does).
And Hewie You can see from other posts that I am not the only one that has been following this thread with particular interest.
Your Friend.
Lanky
Hi Lanky,
"Contributions" was used in the context of 'contributing to discussion', which I thought was what Forums (and particularly this one) were all about.
Sorry if it caused some confusion.
Just to set the record straight, I have provided free access to an E-Book, which contains some interesting concepts. Some may be interested. Many may not. - Some of the content may be a bit new, and may require a good deal of mental effort (which is why it's 'interesting', for some people)! And there is scope for discussion of the 'pros and cons'. - Nothing is being 'sold'! - It may be that the author may decide to sell it one day - but that has not happened yet - and may never happen - but members of this Forum don't need to worry in any case, because they already have access without needing to buy it!
It was hoped that objective discussion of content would be an outcome of this thread, but somewhat disappointingly, the main reaction seems to be a defensive tightening up - as if people feel that they are under some sort of threat - and very little sign of anyone 'contributing to a discussion' of any kind. - Not even any coherent, objective, criticism.
Perhaps this is just he wrong place to attempt to open a conversation on anything which embodies a slightly new slant on the subject of Roulette!? Which seems a pity, and is rather surprising - but of course everyone has the right to make those personal choices.
In any case, I would like to assure anyone who is interested, that I do not have the least intention to do them any harm, or to somehow or other get into their wallets, or to challenge their strongly held beliefs.
Best wishes to all! - HewieB.
Hi HewieB
Thanks for clearing things up Mate.
It now makes everything Crystal Clear from Your point of view.
I wish You well Cobber.
Lanky
I'm not surprised that no one (excludings mods) have responded to the multi-marty system, but I am kind of surprised that no one has responded to the latest propaganda.
Quote " Nothing is being 'sold'! - It may be that the author may decide to sell it one day - but that has not happened yet - and may never happen - "
Already you are backtracking. Now it "may someday" be for sale.
Is this not selling within the "package"? Quote from within the multi-marty er.. a.. 'Business Roulette'
"An associate of mine has created the software to do all of these things, and intends to make it available to Members of 'The Roulette Success Club' for the very modest monthly Subscription - in an extremely neat package!"
Quote
"Perhaps this is just he wrong place to attempt to open a conversation on anything which embodies a slightly new slant on the subject of Roulette!?"
There is no reason to make remarks like that about this forum. Just direct them at me instead. I wish that this thread was in the "uncensored pit" so that I could properly respond to it.
This is the best forum on the net. This is the ultimate forum to open a conversation on any new roulette attack methods and staking. The members do so here, and do not refer others to systems set up in ready to market packages and try to get them to fix it elsewhere. They are not looking to have a system tweeked so that they can successfully sell it. This system is in need of much more than tweeking.
While I am relatively new to this forum, I am not new to forums in general and certainly not new to the game. The multi-marti (which by the way is an appropriate and awesome name I gave it and feel free to use it) is still a marty and when you hit the wall it hurts very badly. I prefer a more tightly controlled progression. Most players will never follow a progression from 5 to 5 grand, even if table limits would allow.
RP
RP
You may start your own thread in the pit.
Hewie....
I looked over this e-book. Roulette 101 for page after page. Then somewhere I saw this bit about something wonderful to come. Then the bit about the Roulette Club.
Don't tell me you're not selling something!
And as for this bit about the mystery man...what the hey? Can't he come on here and show his puss like the rest of us? Too busy?
You're like the teenager going to the doctor saying, "My friend thinks she's pregnant."
RP....I'm almost a candidate for the pit myself! LOL
Sam
From a relatively "new guy" on this forum but as a former "proofreader" in another life, you may want to check some of the spelling in that Roulette 101 text.
AD (Loosers??)
What is 'Roulette 101'? I see that TwoCatSam and ADulay have both refered to it, but can't figure out the connection with the 'Businesslike Roulette' e-book.
AD You are correct. We were scolded thoroughly and enlightened on the use of "loser" (one who loses) and "looser" (as my screws are looser than yours!)
Now I don't know if it's "loses" or "looses". It's a tough word! Most folks can't keep it straight in they're mind!
Anything 101 is the very basics. English 101 as taught by AD, for example. Or is that grammer? Is that one m or two? Kelsey Gramer/Grammer?
GREAT!!
Now I'll be up all night!
Thanks AD
Ad
I've given your post more thought.
English is the second language to many of our posters. Even American-born posters may dangle a participle now and then. What is important is the content of their posts, not perfect grammar and spelling. Sure, there are times I'd love to see a comma and some capitalization, but let's cut them some slack, huh?
How sad would it be that some person passed by and decided not to post and that person had the key to the mint! So to all of you who are struggling with English--please don't take offense and please keep on keepin' on!
Sam
American English or European English?
;D I remember American movies with them rednecks saying: "When we was going to the barn yall, I's says to them, we is damn fine when we drinks some sour mash outa the jarro."
......mmmmm btw. I have tried various combinations as stated in the e-book quite a while back. Never tried progressions though while testing it. Might be ok I don't know. I remember clearly having a session where I did quite well. Then the next session, I hit like 8 spins in a row loosing or ending even. Ended way down.
I could of maybe changed the bet to another combo in the middle of that loosing streak.....after which the wheel most probably would of followed me and give me another streak of losses! lol ;D
That's why it's called roulette and why mechanical systems do not work.
Jakkalsdraai
Yes'm, us Rednecks talk like that somedays! Some ain't never had no book-learnin'!
But I'll never forget the first time I heard someone say, "Outen that light!" Rednecks either blow them out or turn them off. But if a light is out, it must have been "outened", right?
I've got to stop this or I'll loose my mind!
Samster
Quote from Sam,
"English is the second language to many of our posters. Even American-born posters may dangle a participle now and then. What is important is the content of their posts, not perfect grammar and spelling. Sure, there are times I'd love to see a comma and some capitalization, but let's cut them some slack, huh?"
True. This is how we should view all posts at any forum. However, I believe ADulay wasn't replying to a typical post. He was commenting on system/web page which is written in a manner to be sold. It was not written by contributors of a forum/family. Under these circumstances, he is correct. System sellers many times don't even realize how unproffesional it is to have typos and poor grammer within there systems. RP
RP
I caught that!! "There" instead of "their"! LOL
Your point is well taken.
Sam