Where can I find this system?
Thanks
Do a search. Use "Fire and Ice" for the words and "Gamlet" for the member.
Sam
Sam, i believe that the Search option doesn´t work that way anymore. When i press Search i can´t input the member´s name...
RickW00716, if you are referring to Gamlet´s "Fire and Ice" method, than i don´t know if you are aware of what´s happened at this forum.
Long story short is that GAMLET was a Moderator at his own Section here. He was a mysterious contributor. Many adored him. A few didn´t... eventually Gamlet decided to ask for his entire section to be removed. It was.
In that section, upon my special request, Sam kindly posted, detailed, explained and answered questions about how he (Sam) played the first stage of the method... the "Fire" part... i was (i am) interested in it. Later on we would study the "Ice" part.
Then, the whole Section was removed and i thought i had saved Sam´s words to my Hard Drive, but unfortunatelly i didn´t.
I still look forward to understanding the whole concept.
I´ve searched the internet and found some of the posts about this method an the old VLS forum. You can do it too.
I would also like to ask Victor to recover all that he can about this method, but since Gamlet asked to take down his Section, i believe Victor will respect him and even if he could retrieve Gamlet´s words, those wouldn´t get reposted.
Having this in mind, i ask for any member to post the full method "Fire and Ice" using his own words, please !
BTW: I will not ask Sam again since i found that he´s done a great job at the old forum and then took his time and patience to go through all that again and publish it at this forum. I am still grateful he did.
Good luck ;)
I wrote that on Word. If I still have it I will post it.
Sam
Here 'tis:
Wildcard asked me how I used the Gamlet "Fire and Ice" methodology. This methodology creates sectors on the fly; no need to wait for a certain sector to get a few hits. The wheel has actually 37 different sectors and Gamlet's "Fire and Ice" can and does pick them all. It does not take into consideration the dealer, the direction of the wheel or the 0, 00 wheel. A sector is a sector is a sector. OK? Here goes.
Using the chart numbered from 1 to 50 up the left side from bottom to top—this is called the "results" chart. It is the results from the last five spins and the "template" you will record the last five numbers to hit. Place the template at the bottom of the sheet where 1 is the number showing to your left; this is your starting point. You must do the following quickly. In the bottom row of boxes, place a 1 for the most recent number that came, at 2 for the one before that, a 3 and a 4 and a 5. Your chart will look something like this, without the periods.
1....................2....3.....................4..................5
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26
This means the 0 was the last number to come, the 4 was second back 21 was further back and 11 was the fifth number back in the trot. Your marquee would look like this, newest first.
0
4
21
6
11
If you're not clear on that, no need to go on. Ask and learn before you continue.
In the above trot, we would have a bet as 4 and 21 are " 2/3/5"---two numbers fell within three pockets during the last five spins. Ok, we're ready to move on.
Suppose you have those numbers written down and you're ready for the next number. Above you 1 write 2; above your 2 write 3 above your 3 write 4 and above your 4 write 5. You have 2 3 4 5 and no 1. 1 is the spin to come and when it does, you write 1 above the correct box on the template. Let's say 2 came. Your chart would look like this, but remember, you can't see the row with the 1 at the left side, you see 2 as you moved the template up.
2....................3....4....1...............5
1....................2....3.....................4..................5
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26
Had you started betting on the first sector "2/3/5" you would have won when 2 came. Now you have five new numbers to consider. The 11, which was the oldest number is now number 6 back, no longer is in play; just the most recent five. Our marquee would look like this:
2
0
4
21
6
When the 2 came it created a new bet, "3/5/7" or "three of the last five spins fell within seven pockets."
You continue on this way.
I am going to upload the chart and template to the "DOWNLOADS" section if I can. If I can't I'll ask for Victor's help.
Wildcard, I will wait for you to show interest in this methodology before I continue on. This is not directed to him alone, or I would email him. I would invite anyone to join in on the discussion.
Please disagree all you want and ask any questions you want, but do so with a little respect for Gamlet. Is that fair?
Thank you for posting this method. Unfortunately, I understand it about as well as I understand Latin. :-[
Rick
I would be happy to explain. Please ask!
Sam
TCS
Gahead gahead by all means....
Curious minds want to know.
Thanks in advance
TTT
TTT
It would seem virtually no one can understand this method. Gamelt is the author of the system. I merely devised the pen-and-paper charts to track it.
I think I would have to borrow a video camera and actually make a brief movie of the method in action. You guys would have to hear my voice! LOL
Is there any interest?
TTT, have you really read what I've written? Do you have the template and charts?
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=177 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=177)
Someone tell me what this means??? I've deleted that devil 57 times and it's still there!!
GAAAA IT'S AFTER ME!!
Sam
Sam,
Even though this system was here for ages, I never played it.
How was your results with this system?
Cheers,
Roulette787
TCS
I've read it. I think I've got it.
I would rather hear it from you than have to explain my understanding of it.
I'm sure we would all LOVE to hear the VOICE ( of reason) ;)
If you have the time, that is.
TTT
787
Frankly, I think it's a winner and I should be playing it for money now. Seldom did it go three full tries at a section without a hit. I usually doubled up (AACCKK) and won every time.
TTT
Well, let me see if I can borrow my son's camera. I will not show my mug! Just my hands......
Singin' like Waylon.....
"I'm a good ol' boy. You know my Mama loves me. But she don't understand why she only sees my hands and not my face on TV."
THEM DUKES THEM DUKES!!
Sam
I think the Ice part was never posted on the forum...
I´m all set for the movies. Popcorn anyone ?
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BTW : I´ve also seen THIS >>>> at a number of posts ... What the hell is it ?
Thank you Sam ;)
I'll get the camera today. I need someone to pick a day from some permanence. Mine or JLP's or Spielbank. Even the challenge numbers I posted.
I'll probably lose but that's ok. This is just to teach.
Sam
Hi Sammy..I'm also interested if you are still doing the video.
Will you be talking us through it was you bet?
Darren :-)
Just saw something that is a good preview of the Gamlet "Fire" system. Take a look at this:
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Look at the 0 and the 15. That is "two out of three within 5" Two of the last three spins within five pockets. Look what comes next! 0!
Now that 0 and the 15 create a new "two out of three within 5". Four spins later you get a 3. Two pockets on the other side of 0.
The three hits again soon but it is not within the three spins, so it is dead.
But you see how it can work. I see this all the time. In this trot, if you look, you will find other cases. At the top you will see 22/22. This did not hit in the seven spins following. It hits often; not always. Now, on the 3 at the top...it was followed by a 12(see screen)and then by a 26. Another winner. It just gets boring!! LOL
Sam
If nobody objects, I plan to use the numbers from Microgaming downloaded today, 9.14.8 because I just did a few and saw something that I need to include in the film that does not happen all that often.
Sam
Below is a video showing the Gamlet system in action. 26 and 26 came. I missed betting on the 35 for three bets because of home distractions.
The splits and corners are the Chicco/murph sytem. This thing is 11 minutes long. The 26 hits at four minutes.
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/videos/709ddbb61b1fe2f9 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/videos/709ddbb61b1fe2f9)
Sorry Sam,
I lost something...
Can you explain in details how the system (and the charts) works?
Thank you
Ice (...and no fire)
Mr. Chips
Please do comment. I'd love to read about it. Gamlet gave this system to the world. I created the charts and template and betting guide. Last night I forgot how to use the betting guide!!
Ice,
Within the next couple of days I will make a movie showing the numbers I'm using and exactly how to use the chart. It's like a paint brush---you use it a couple of times and you got it forever!! I have to borrow the camera, learn how to use it and get the lighting right.
I'll have fun doing it.
Have you downloaded the charts?
Hi Sam,
I've downloaded the chart and now I'm ready for the movie star... :D
Ice
Hey, Ice, this is a "production"... You don't just rush into these things. I've got to get a make-girl for my hands!
.....and wait for the wife to go shopping. She'll try to hog the movie; she always does!
Sam
waiting for sam's wife go shopping, hope this can help (me too)
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/'fire'-method-'(ch1054)(ch1043)(ch1054)(ch1053)(ch1068)'/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/'fire'-method-'(ch1054)(ch1043)(ch1054)(ch1053)(ch1068)'/)
Ice
Ice
I'm getting the camera today. My charts simply make tracking easy. I have a method which, if followed, makes the betting very easy.
Sam
Sam, I know you're on work for us, in the meantime I've thought it would be interesting read something about "fire and ice".
I think that after your live show, it'd be useful if some of our software guru could develop a little application (or, better, a RX code) for easier playing.
Ice
Ice
Software would be nice, but my charts and template can go to the casino!
Have captured the camera. Movie soon!!
8)
Sam
OK
I have spent a little time mastering the camera. I cannot put it on a tripod as I planned as the sheets will not show. I will be forced to film with my right hand and write with my left.
You guys will have to be very patient and understanding. I'm right handed!
Is there still interest?
Sam
what? We are all here Sam!
Ice
ps. my cola is becoming warm...
Well-----------KFS has already written the software for "Fire and Ice"
Get some ice Ice. I'm writing the script!
Sam
EDIT: Not sure this movie is warranted now. This software does in a heartbeat what I take ten seconds to do on paper. I feel I can teach it better with this software than my paper and pencil method.
The paper and pencil is only for the live land-based casinos.
Sam
Great Sam,
as I said the software I would be usefull and save you time and money (except for the camera that you have bought) ;)
Ice
borrowed
Hello Guys. Dont know if this is the same thing as the F&I thingy but i ' ll post this for our new members:
Hi mate. Here's the system spelled out as I understand it.
First we start with the flattened Wheel as the "Template":
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13- 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14- 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26
Now, remember that we might have to "bend" it upwards when we determine the hits. More about that below..
Ok, how do we interprete?
We want to track 3, 4, or 5 numbers within 5, 7, or 9 pockets at most. What does this mean?
EXAMPLE 1:
First of all we have to label the numberhits from 1 to 5 on the Wheel. So it can look like this: (im using the"Template" here)
1 2 3 4 5
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26
Now, number 13 24 14 9 18 is our hits here. Labeled 1-5 in that order right?
If we count the closest distance between one number to the other from left to right we have Hit-number 4 (nr 14) and 3 (nr 9) . That makes two spaces from each other, follow? We continue from hit 3 to hit 5 which is nr 18.
So, we have a 3-Hit within 7 spaces so our bet will be: 14 31 22 9 18 29 7 for max 5 spins. Now, you might think as 3 of these 5 numbers are already hit we got bad odds but it seem to be of little relevance since we bet two unhit numbers as well.
EXAMPLE 2: (4 within 9)
4 1 3 2 5
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26
We got 4 very close so this is determined and qualified as a 4 within 7 pocket bet! Why???
Because we have spin (from left to right) 4 1 3 2 within a seven pocket since we have four numbers very close. so our bet is:
15 19 4 21 2 25 17 for 5 spins -flatbets.
Make a 5 within 9 pocket Example yourself and reply mateSmiley and here are the Gamlet-rules for this System:
RULES FOR GAMLET*S 5 NUMBERSYSTEM
Here are the rules again:
Side by side: (0 and 32) I bet six numbers, two on either side of the pair.
2 of 3 Last numbers within 5 spaces
3 of 4 Last numbers within 7 spaces
4 of 5 Last numbers within 9 spaces
Double number, eg. 33 33 bet two to the left
And two to the right: 24 16 33 1 20 Now, Gamlet said to bet only the one on either side, but that's only a 3 unit bet and most tables are 5 units or multiples of 5, so I just bet five numbers.
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Cheers
/Compa
Hi Compa & Sam,
Thanks for the system. How many spins do we need to follow?
hideseek
You could have a sector form in as little as two spins. 0 26 or 35 35.
Sam
Thanks Sam. I got it.
Has anyone uncovered the formula for "Ice" in the Fire & Ice Method?
Ice is waiting for a sector of 6 to miss 24 times.
Believe it or not, it happens.
Any idea what is enigmista system? (by Gamlet and by Troublemaker)
Wasn't that fake?
No it is not. Many of the senior members of this forum were in touch with gamlet, while he was developing that system. I dont know what happened finally.
I thought it was fake, but JLP pointed me in the right direction so now I'm looking more into it.
FIRE
If it's any help, here's what Gamlet posted in the old VLS forum:
Hi guys, I am glad to hear old and new members of a forum. I it is a lot of played last time on various wheels. In different casinos of Moscow also has noticed such law almost everywhere. I want will share it with you and there can be we together can take from this greater benefit.
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Now we shall begin with my cinema in Taleon Casino. nolinks://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5729474527678030790 (nolinks://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5729474527678030790)
Through the program google you will see is better this film (Press download in the corner )
Here you see as I win playing on сеторах favorites. A method such: if we see 2 numbers from 3spins beside. Then we put on sector from 6 numbers and we play 6spins. An example:
22
25
18
We put on sector (31,9,22,18,29,7) We play 6 spins .
On my cinema I play with small difference: when there is a game I pass 2-3 spins and then I put on numbers so I play only 3-4 spins for economy of money. But on cinema I have a successful strip and I do not lose in general. But actually there is an opportunity to lose then when game passes in other sector then on to place rates and on other sector and to play simultaneously for 2 sectors on 6 spins.There can be a game at once on 3 sectors. Then it is necessary to play on 3 sectors, everyone 6 spins separately and probably to win 2 games from 3.
As it is possible to play if we see 3 numbers from 4 spins on no more than 7 cells then we play 7 numbers in 5 spins, but the most powerful game is when we have 4 numbers from 5 spins. The distance between numbers should not be more than 9 cells! An example:
1
14
22
25
18
We put on sector (33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29 ) We play 4 spins .
At such game I win usually 3 games from four games and my balance leaves in plus.
You have certainly understood, that we speak about the European wheel
It is the initial stage, check up it. I have gone further and have checked up one more, a final stage, but about it we shall talk then
If there are questions. Speak.
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Let's stop. On sector from 9 numbers, nevertheless it is the most powerful game from those sectors. Happens so. When for 4 spins our sector does not win, then game on other party approaches and first wins last sector, and then the first sector, for example;We have
1
14
22
25
18
We put sector (33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29 )
Then we see 4spins
17
6
15
8
Here we have again 4 numbers from 5 spins ,It:
25
18
17
6
15
Then 4 spins I put the following on 2 sectors simultaneously 2 units already on sector(33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29 ) ,(15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6)
Then we win first 2 sector, then 1 sector, for 4 spins.
Very seldom can play 3 sectors it is direct one after another
You can play all 3 sectors doing a soft progression, but you can play (if you are very cautious and do not wish to risk) only last sector, without a progression, leaving only last sector.
It is important, when you have at once some sectors of game, WINS LAST the SECTOR HAS turned out!
GAMLET.
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In this example we play only sector 9 of numbers. The RULE, the last 5 spins a minimum of 4 numbers from this sector!
Number BET
26
2
30
33
4
33
32
5
30
34
30
18
33
2
0
17
11
36
25
Here we have sector (25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30)
27 - win ----------------+27(units)
Here we it is had again game the last 5 spins a minimum of 4 numbers (5 numbers(27,25,36,11) from 5 spins-it too are game), therefore continue game that sector (25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30)
5 -los
7 -los
15 -los
6 - win ---------------------------------------+27(units)
Here there is no game
28-There is no game
21-There is no game
36-There is no game
6 -Here we have 4 numbers (6,36,21, and 6) for the last 5 spins-6,28,21,36.6
There is a game sector (21, 2, 25, 17, 34, 6, 27, 13 ,36 )
2 -win -------------------------------27+27=+54(units)
We continue, we have 4 numbers(2 , 6 . 36 , 21) from 5 spins ,The same sector (21, 2, 25, 17, 34, 6, 27, 13 ,36 )
30 - los
14 - los
7 - los
21 - win -------------------------------------+54(units)
There is no game
9 -There is no game
25-There is no game
23-There is no game
30-There is no game
14-There is no game
33-There is no game
5 -game sector (14 ,20 ,1 , 33 , 16 ,24,5 , 10 , 23 )
game22-los
9 - los
26-los
19-los , stop. -------------------------------------+54-36=+18(units)
13-no game
8 -no game
8 -no game
8 - game
game sector ( 10 , 23 , 8 ,30 , 11 , 36 , 13 , ,27 , 6 )
32-los
6 - win ------------------------+18+18=36(units)
We again have 4 numbers from 5 spins, we continue that sector to play
2-los
13- win , stop ----------------------------+36+18=54(units)
29-no game
5 -no game
27-no game
19-no game
21-no game
34 - game
game sector (19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27 )
22-los
31-los
35-los
1 - los,stop. ------------------------------------+54-36=18(units)
10-no game
18- game We have 4 ( 31,1,10,18 )numbers from 5 spins -31,35,1,10,18,
game sector (31,14,20,1,33,16,24,5,10 )
16-win ,We continue ----+18+27=45(units)
8-los
2-los
28-los
16-win,stop----------------+45(units)
15
TOTAL: +45 UNITS
It for those who wishes to play very cautiously and only on sector 9 of numbers, without a progression!
Gamlet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I can't find any info the "ice" part or the enigmista system, but some of the posts I've read on other sites seem to suggest that it is the same thing.
Cheers
CD
ICE is merely allowing 6 numbers to sleep for 24 spins and then betting them with a simple 6 number progression.
Hi CD, and All,
You wrote:
18
33
2
0
17
11
36
25
Here we have sector (25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30)
But already the five-spins sequence 2-0-17-11-36 is a qualifying sector (2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11) - No?
Also close to the end:
22-los
31-los
35-los
1 - los,stop. ------------------------------------+54-36=18(units)
10-no game
18- game We have 4 ( 31,1,10,18 )numbers from 5 spins -31,35,1,10,18,
game sector (31,14,20,1,33,16,24,5,10 )
16-win ,We continue ----+18+27=45(units)
8-los
1) Sequence 31-35-1-10-18: How is this a qualified sector? #18 is 11 slots away from #10...
2) Sequence 1-10-18-16-8: Why is this NOT a qualified sector (8-23-10-5-24-16-33-1)?
This is how I would play the same sequence using those rules:
The sectors are shown in my Wheel-alert script (w0alert.html) v 1.11 <---- Note .11 (see the download description)
Check "Hot", set MinHits = 4, MaxSlots = 9 and MaxSpins = 5
26
2
30
33
4
33
32
5
30
34
30
18
33
2
0
17
11
36 Sect = 2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11
25 HIT Sect = 25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11 ===> Add #2 = 9 numbers
27 HIT Sect = 25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11 ===> Same section after hit = Don't bet
5 Sect = 25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11 + 27-13-36-11-30-8-23-10-5 === Too wide = Don't bet
7
15
6
28
21
36
6 Sect = 21-2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36
2 HIT Sect = 21-2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36 ===> Same section after hit = Don't bet
30 Sect = 21-2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36 ===> Same section after hit = Don't bet
14
7
21 :(
9
25
23
30
14
33
5 Sect = 30-8-23-10-5-24-16-33 + 23-10-5-24-16-33-1-20-14 ===> Too wide = Don't bet
22
9 Sect = 5-24-16-33-1-20-14-31-9 + 33-1-20-14-31-9-22 ===> Too wide = Don't bet
26
19
13
8
8
8 Sect = 13-36-11-30-8 ===> Add #6 + #27 + #23 + #10 = 9 numbers
32 --- Sect = 13-36-11-30-8 ===> Add #6 + #27 + #23 + #10 = 9 numbers
6 HIT Sect = 6-27-13-36-11-30-8 ===> Add #34 + #23 = 9 numbers
2 --- Same bet
13 HIT
29
5
27
19
21
34 Sect = 19-4-21-2-25-17-34-6-27
22 --- Sect = 19-4-21-2-25-17-34-6-27
31 --- Same bet
35 --- (I don't think I'd bet 4 x 9 u, but OK)
1 ---
10
18
16
8 Sect = 8-23-10-5-24-16-33-1 ===> Add #20 = 9 numbers
2 --- Same bet
28 --- Same bet
16 HIT
15
Bets = 14
Hits = 6
Regards,
KFS
Playing around with this a bit on DB. So far up 140u, probably only played on 20 spins or less.
Just been lucky at the moment I think, but still it's nice. :)
Hi KFS,
Your software is awsome. It pickups the sector beautifully. I think I am going to play like a Pro ;)
Why Gamlet did nt play that sector? We dont know.
Thanks
HS
@ Thanks CD for the gamlet's post
Remember, you just learn Gamlet on paper if you visit live casinos. I have bought webcam to make movie if anyone is still interested. Probably best to learn with the software and then see where you want to go..
Sam
I'm interested if you want to do it Sam. :)
Won about 180u for the day, not too shabby.
Shorty and All.......
I am happy to hear you won money! Hey, I'm happy to hear anyone won money! I will make the tutorial.
Guys, I'm off for a couple of days to see the new baby in the family and possibly visit ailing/dying mother-in-law in nursing home. Feature that spread!
Back in a couple of days to resume my testing/playing/BSing.
Sam
Hi all,
Thanks for the ICE explanation Sam & thanks to KFS for his comments & great software.
I'm not sure why Gamlet didn't play those sectors either.
Eitherway though, FIRE is an interesting system - seeking out the hot sectors - and is worth looking at more to find the best play situations.
Looking forward to hearing how everyone's testing goes and I'm looking forward to having a little play with it myself.
Cheers,
CD
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BTW : I´ve also seen THIS >>>> at a number of posts ... What the hell is it ?
Hi mate, it stands for "
Non-breaking space". We obviously have a little bug somewhere down the forum's text parser engine, as this is an internal instruction for the web browser and it is not supposed to display!
More info here:
nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space)
Thanks Victor.
@ all
Test this variation:
In KFS software - Select hot sector, min 3 hits, max slot is 5 and max spin is 5. Run your #s. If any sector is selected add 1 # on either side of the sector and bet for max of 6 spins. If you win anytime with in those 6 spins stop and rechart.
I tested this variation with random.org #s
first batch of 100 #s i could win 60U profit and second batch of 100 #s -4 U.
to play this fire and ice a simple way, can you do this?
wait for 2 numbers to hit within 5 spaces within 3 spins, play the hot sector for 6 spins (the fire part)
wait for a 6 number sector to miss 24 times, then bet 6 times with no progression (the ice part)
in a nutshell is this correct?
i have tried reading the other threads to work this out but i am a practical learner, i learn by doing so i dont have a very good understanding of long explanations which is also coupled with a very short attention span! not a good combo lol!
if the system can be played like i have put it then just say yes, also if there is something vital i have missed out could you put it in for me,
thanks
Okay, here we go.
Fire is can be played with either this:
- a sector of 5 with 2 hits within 3 spins. (2/3/5)
- a sector of 7 with 3 hits within 4 spins. (3/4/7)
- a sector of 9 with 4 hits within 5 spins. (4/5/9) This is what I play with.
I personally don't play Ice, because I have seen a sector of 6 not hit for 40+ spins.
Seriously test this a bit first if you are thinking of playing it.
Things happen that will make you realise when to play with it or not.
thanks mate
Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 03, 2008, 10:28:53 AM
Remember, you just learn Gamlet on paper if you visit live casinos. I have bought webcam to make movie if anyone is still interested. Probably best to learn with the software and then see where you want to go..
Sam
With software aid everything become easy as ABC,really wish to thank all the developers who took time to put software together.For a beginner like me,it makes everything easy and simple.
where is the software? is it earlier on the thread?
Quote from: ryan08 on October 17, 2008, 09:12:39 PM
where is the software? is it earlier on the thread?
KFS wheel alert
Does anybody have a BankRoll suggestion for using Fire?
I anticipate that 100u would be adequate.
I would say about you need atleast 300.
This is an old topic, but perhaps after today videos there will be renewed interest.
Use KFS software!
Sam
Hi TwoCatSam,
I've been following this forum for awhile now (dating back to when it was on the old server) and have become particularly interested in the method that Gamlet had posted. It seemed you did a lot of investigating when it was first posted.
I respect you and your work and wanted to get your opinion on Gamlet's method. I think you had posted once that relatively good profits are the norm in a span of a couple hours playing time.
Since talk of Gamlet's method has died down and he asked for his section removed, I wanted to ask if you think it's worth 'mastering' his method (the fire part) to obtain consistent profits?
To let you know, I have been working, training myself, if you will, to be able to play his method in a land based casino without using paper/pencil - doing all the tracking in my head and using the scroll, of course. My goal is to master his method and be able to report to the board that doing so can be very beneficial.
I live in the Chicagoland area, so there are multiple casinos less than 1 hour away. Hoping to also show the method is casino independent.
Take care and look forward to hearing your thoughts Smiley
-Drummer
Now me............
Drummer
Thank you for your kind words!
If you are talking "Fire" as Gamlet called it, yes, it does work. Just recently I won over $1000 using it and the G.U.T. I don't know how you could hope to do this in your head, but if you can--fine. I bet all the sectors that are hot--two, three, four--whatever. If I were doing it on the computer, I would open four or five of KFS's programs and watch each one. You notice the G.U.T talk has died down. Gamlet has died down. It almost seems that anything that has a ghost's chance in hell of working gets ignored.
Here's the short video!
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Hi Guys,
I must say that there are some really knowledgable people on this form, much more so than I.
I am really interested in the gamlet fire & ice method & think it has potential.
I seem to have the general gist of it however I am totally confused with the tracking method.
I have read through the great posts that 2catsam has done on this & think they are brilliant, however I just can't get the tracking method into my head!!
Using the template 0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 Etc makes sense, however what I am getting confused with is when you put your 5 spins down?
In the post below it goes:-
1................... . 2.... 3.....................4..................5
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 Etc
this is the marquee:-
0
4
21
6
11
I understand that the 1 goes above the zero.
The next bit is where I get confused!!
I would expect the 2 to go above 4, 3 to go above 21, 4 to go above 6 & 5 to go above 11, however it dosn't???
I am really struggling to understand this & have read & re-read as many posts as I can on this, so if anyone can help me on this I would really appreciate it.
Apologies if this inconvieniences anybody, but I really would like some help.
Many thanks
Ellman
P. S.
I have posted Sams great post for reference below:-
Wildcard asked me how I used the Gamlet "Fire and Ice" methodology. This methodology creates sectors on the fly; no need to wait for a certain sector to get a few hits. The wheel has actually 37 different sectors and Gamlet's "Fire and Ice" can and does pick them all. It does not take into consideration the dealer, the direction of the wheel or the 0, 00 wheel. A sector is a sector is a sector. OK? Here goes.
Using the chart numbered from 1 to 50 up the left side from bottom to top—this is called the "results" chart. It is the results from the last five spins and the "template" you will record the last five numbers to hit. Place the template at the bottom of the sheet where 1 is the number showing to your left; this is your starting point. You must do the following quickly. In the bottom row of boxes, place a 1 for the most recent number that came, at 2 for the one before that, a 3 and a 4 and a 5. Your chart will look something like this, without the periods.
1................... . 2.... 3.....................4..................5
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26
This means the 0 was the last number to come, the 4 was second back 21 was further back and 11 was the fifth number back in the trot. Your marquee would look like this, newest first.
0
4
21
6
11
If you're not clear on that, no need to go on. Ask and learn before you continue.
In the above trot, we would have a bet as 4 and 21 are " 2/3/5"---two numbers fell within three pockets during the last five spins. Ok, we're ready to move on.
Suppose you have those numbers written down and you're ready for the next number. Above you 1 write 2; above your 2 write 3 above your 3 write 4 and above your 4 write 5. You have 2 3 4 5 and no 1. 1 is the spin to come and when it does, you write 1 above the correct box on the template. Let's say 2 came. Your chart would look like this, but remember, you can't see the row with the 1 at the left side, you see 2 as you moved the template up.
2................... . 3.... 4.... 1...............5
1................... . 2.... 3.....................4..................5
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26
Had you started betting on the first sector "2/3/5" you would have won when 2 came. Now you have five new numbers to consider. The 11, which was the oldest number is now number 6 back, no longer is in play; just the most recent five. Our marquee would look like this:
2
0
4
21
6
Hi ellman,
1................... . 2.... 3.....................4..................5
0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3 26
This means the 0 was the last number to come, the 4 was second back 21 was further back and 11 was the fifth number back in the trot. Your marquee would look like this, newest first.
0
4
21
6
11
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Welcome to the Forum.
I think the text is not well formatted there so the numbers don´t get positioned in the correct place.
But 2cat explains clearly which are the numbers.Guide from this.
The second template he uses to see always the last 5 numbers, so he always moves the template 1 row up to see this and mark the last 5 numbers.Take in count that the 1 marked number from the previous row is now marked as 2, and the same with the other 3 numbers (moves 1 level up).
The next number to track is the one to spun and so we marked as 1.
Hope this helps,
JLP.-
Hi JLP
Thanks very much for answering that, I will have a go again with it.
Do you personally play this system? If so do you find it successful.
Thanks again for answering, I really appreciate you taking the time.
Cheers
Ellman
ellman
Are you aware a fellow named KFS wrote software to use on line for this system?
Sam
Hi Sam,
I tried to open up Kon-Fu-Sed wheel alert software but couldn't get it to work. I tried to open up the w0 one for the european wheel.
From what I have read about it I think this would be superb & a good way to learn the system.
Is there any other software?
Many thanks
Ellman
ellman
When I can get on my other computer, I will look at the software and see if there is anything wrong with it. If you'd like, I will post it in the downloads section.
Sam
Thank you very much Sam,
I would really appreciate it if you could do that.
Cheers
Ellman
It is there in the downloads section under "KFS's Gamlet SEctor Tracker"
No charge............... :thumbsup:
Samster
Thanks Sam
Your a gentleman!!
Ellman
Hi Sam,
The software is excellent. It has helped me to understand how to track it physically also!!
I have one more question Sam:-
I like the method of betting with 4 hits from 5 spins within 9 spaces - to bet for 4 spins.
However the question is once my number has come up & I have WON, do I continue betting to finish out the 4 spin sequence or do I call it a day & wait for my sequence to come again & bet another sector
Thanks for your patience!
Cheers
Ellman
Hello ellman,
I have one more question Sam:-
I like the method of betting with 4 hits from 5 spins within 9 spaces - to bet for 4 spins.
However the question is once my number has come up & I have WON, do I continue betting to finish out the 4 spin sequence or do I call it a day & wait for my sequence to come again & bet another sector
Once your number hit within the 4 spins, look at the last 5 spins and see if you have 4 hits. If you have 4 hits in the last 5 spins bet accordingly for the next 4 spins. If not continue looking for the next qualified signal. Normally when you hit within 1 or 2 spins, the qualified 9 spaces will be almost the same as your last bet. As you continue hitting you probably will be betting the same sector over and over until it goes to sleep.
Regards
sniper
Hi Sniper,
Thanks for your reply.
Just to check my understanding:-
Say I have 4 hits within 5 spins over a sector of 9, then I will bet this sector of 9 for for 4 bets/spins.
Even if on my first bet one of my BETTED numbers comes up & I WIN, then am I correct to keep betting the same sector for the other 3 bets/spins?
Thanks for your patience!!
Ellman
Hello ellman,
Say I have 4 hits within 5 spins over a sector of 9, then I will bet this sector of 9 for for 4 bets/spins.
Even if on my first bet one of my BETTED numbers comes up & I WIN, then am I correct to keep betting the same sector for the other 3 bets/spins?
Once you have a hit, STOP BETTING it's over. Immediately look at your last 5 spins and see if you have 4 hits. If yes, bet accordingly following the system. If no, continue looking till you have next signal to bet.
Regards
sniper
Hi Sniper,
Thanks for making that clear mate.
I appreciate it.
Cheers
Ellman
If we see 3 numbers from 4 spins on no more than 7 cells then we play 7 numbers in 5 spins.
We have 4 numbers from 5 spins.The distance between numbers should not be more than 9 cells.We play 4 spins
Hi Coolvenom,
"If we see 3 numbers from 4 spins on no more than 7 cells then we play 7 numbers in 5 spins.
We have 4 numbers from 5 spins. The distance between numbers should not be more than 9 cells. We play 4 spins"
Thanks for that mate.
Ellman