Do any of you know of a way to test these systems in a Real RNG.
It's funny you can test systems on a REAL wheel for free (Dublinbet, or watching the Riverbelle wheel), but you have to pay to test a system on a Real Money RNG.
There is the challenge of mastering the Real Money RNG. I believe it's possible.
Yes, tricky deal. Have to risk money to get the "real" spins. Then you wonder if the numbers you get when betting $1 are the same as when you are betting $100.
Sam
Hi Guys.
Not sure if this is 100% correct or not.
But I was told ages ago that tich 1 & 2 that are the last two tables on the right of screen at
Spielbank are Rng....as I said I am not sure (I don't speak German).
If So the numbers are free from there.
Heres the link
nolinks://nolinks.spielbank-wiesbaden.de/DE/621/Permanenzen2.php (nolinks://nolinks.spielbank-wiesbaden.de/DE/621/Permanenzen2.php)
Lanky
This kept me up last night along with those darn crossings.......
Suppose I am playing System A and the RNG intentionally beats me. Then those numbers posted would be biased numbers designed to beat me and they might work fine on System B. Now I am playing System B and the RNG intentionally beats me. Those numbers might work on System A.
If I were to collect 5,000 numbers from an RNG, we still could not know if they were true random numbers.
However, if winkel is right and his G.U.T. truly is the "Holy Grail", then it would become the known factor (yardstick) by which all RNGs can be measured. If the numbers produced exactly follow his binomial distribution model, then they are truly random.
However, if the 4Selecta proves a winner we can also use it as a yardstick.
However, if my Chicco/murph proves a winner, etc, etc.......
Somehow, I must learn the truth about RNGs. Naturally it will be my truth. Others may or may not accept it.
TwoCatSam
Quote from: Lanky on September 20, 2008, 02:12:35 AM
Hi Guys.
Not sure if this is 100% correct or not.
But I was told ages ago that tich 1 & 2 that are the last two tables on the right of screen at
Spielbank are Rng....as I said I am not sure (I don't speak German).
If So the numbers are free from there.
Heres the link
nolinks://nolinks.spielbank-wiesbaden.de/DE/621/Permanenzen2.php (nolinks://nolinks.spielbank-wiesbaden.de/DE/621/Permanenzen2.php)
Lanky
Table 1-7 are Live-Wheels in Casino Wiesbaden
Table 8 = Touchbet 1 is a real wheel which is working automatically with an air pressure shot of the ball this is located in the Casino
Table 9 = tocubet 2 is same as T8 but locted in the Machine-Area
No RNG in that Casino
free RNG-Numbers: nolinks.casino-club.com (nolinks://nolinks.casino-club.com)
on the left side click on "Coups"
the first 500 spins of the last 31 days of Table 1
br
winkel
winkel
You are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks!
Sam
If someone ist interested in 2Years of RNG-spins up to 2500 spins per day.
br
winkel
If we could somehow understand the relationship between bets and a Real Money RNG. Spielbank (sp) may be unbiased numbers.
Then again they may be a response to a certain bet. I remember having spotty success with a Real Money RNG betting 19-34, then 1-18, repeating. Also wondering about the "Rebet" button and does that trigger a change in the RNG as opposed to manually placing the chips in the same places.
Don´t worry about those items.
People who are afraid of being cheated playing on RNG or playing at all, shouldn´t play.
br
winkel
What may happen here is two kinds of systems, one for the actual wheel and systems for the RNG, assuming Real money RNG's and actual wheels behave differently.
That´s absolutely wrong
I have about 600 000 RNG-spins there is absolutely no difference in the statistics to Live-Spins.
It´s another problem that some OCs may cheat the gamblers
But if you play along the binomial-distribution they cannot chet, because they would prove that they are cheating!!!!!!
br
winkel
I've been reading that casinos are replacing live casino cames with rng machines. If Live=RNG, then why are they doing that?
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on September 20, 2008, 10:26:20 PM
I've been reading that casinos are replacing live casino cames with rng machines. If Live=RNG, then why are they doing that?
Perhaphs more spins per hour mate. Or cutting dealers' salaries.
Remember they care for both the bottom and top line(s)
Quote from: winkel on September 20, 2008, 02:00:23 PM
If someone ist interested in 2Years of RNG-spins up to 2500 spins per day.
br
winkel
Hi Winkel,
I would'nt mind testing with those RNG's, send them to dean@iburst.co.za. Any idea what casino/s they are from.
Thanks mate
There is the challenge of mastering the Real Money RNG. I believe it's possible.>>
I tried for months in the casino to beat the rng's and couldn't do it. They're too chaotic.
Chaotic is a pretty good word for them.
I tried my hand at the new Bally Roulette game (looks like a slot machine) and while I played it for close to 3 hours (building comp points) on my initial $20 investment not one of my 'good' plans really worked on it. They work swell at a live table.
I had all I could do to keep from losing that $20. And when it was time to quit it took damn near a 1/2 hour to get back to my initial $20 balance.
Good luck to anyone playing an on-line RNG if they are anything like the casino machines.