Hi Guys,
This is a system I've tested and it's ALL down to John Solitude... [smiley=dankk2.gif]
Check out his website at nolinks.john-solitude.be
Now the PDF file I downloaded there is currently being updated, the file you want is the Wheel Frequency Analysis one.
I would make it available here but it's copyrighted & I just would not do that to the guy....
Ok, you will need a big bankroll, some discipline, and plenty of time....
To keep it simple (that way I can understand it [smiley=smiley.gif]) we bet on sections of the wheel that HAVEN'T hit for a long (but not too long) time.
ALL THE EXAMPLE DATA IS ON A SINGLE ZERO WHEEL
We are looking to bet a section of 12 / 13 numbers that haven't hit for 12 / 11 spins...
I track this by using the excellent RouletteXtreme software
Ok so the following 11 numbers show....
5
1
11
18
8
7
16
36
26
5
31
After 11 missed spins we now have a section of 13 numbers that have not hit so we bet on it.
the numbers in this section are 0/2/4/6/13/15/17/19/21/25/27/32/34
and the 8 step progression I use is as follows :-
Spin #s Units If Loss If Win
1 13 1 (13) 23
2 13 2 (39) 33
3 13 3 (78) 30
4 13 5 (143) 37
5 13 8 (247) 41
6 13 12 (403) 29
7 13 19 (650) 34
8 13 30 (1040) 40
The bankroll I have tested with is 5 losses (5x1040) 5,200
I try to win 5 times per session before quitting, unfortunately this isn't always possible....
Let's say the next number is 0, therefore we win 23 units [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
and now we have a section of 12 numbers that have not hit for 12 spins so we can bet again (this only happens occasionally) on the numbers :-
2/4/6/13/15/17/19/21/25/27/32/34
That's about it, anybody who has any questions please post here and will try and reply ASAP.
I'm way to busy with proper work at the moment so please bear with me [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Will post some test data right now.... [smiley=wink.gif]
Ooops [smiley=shocked.gif] forgot to add when I bet on 12 numbers I still use 13 numbers and the same progression....
Double Ooops [smiley=shocked.gif] If you bet 12 numbers / 12 misses or 13numbers / 11 misses John calculates that you have a 99+% of winning BUT as the test data shows This system is no "Holy Grail" :(
Ok here the data enjoy... [smiley=wink.gif]
Firstly here is a list of sections and their numbers....
0 - 13 0 2 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34
1 - 3 1 3 7 9 12 14 18 20 22 28 29 31 35
2 - 10 2 6 8 10 11 13 17 23 25 27 30 34 36
3 - 6 0 2 3 4 6 15 17 19 21 25 26 32 34
4 - 8 2 4 6 8 11 13 17 21 25 27 30 34 36
5 - 7 1 5 7 9 14 16 18 20 22 24 29 31 33
6 - 33 5 6 8 10 11 13 16 23 24 27 30 33 36
7 - 2 0 2 3 4 7 12 15 19 21 26 28 32 35
8 - 22 1 5 8 9 10 14 16 20 22 23 24 31 33
9 - 15 0 3 7 9 12 15 18 22 26 28 29 32 35
10 - 29 1 5 9 10 14 16 18 20 22 24 29 31 33
11 - 31 1 5 8 10 11 14 16 20 23 24 30 31 33
12 - 17 0 2 3 4 12 15 17 19 21 25 26 32 35
13 - 20 1 5 8 10 11 13 16 20 23 24 30 33 36
14 - 0 0 3 7 9 12 14 18 22 26 28 29 31 35
15 - 11 2 4 6 11 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 34 36
16 - 12 1 7 9 12 14 16 18 20 22 28 29 31 33
17 - 24 5 6 8 10 11 13 17 23 24 27 30 34 36
18 - 4 0 3 4 7 12 15 18 19 26 28 29 32 35
19 - 30 2 4 6 11 13 17 19 21 25 27 30 34 36
20 - 26 3 7 9 12 14 18 20 22 26 28 29 31 35
21 - 23 2 6 8 11 13 17 21 23 25 27 30 34 36
22 - 19 0 3 7 12 15 18 19 22 26 28 29 32 35
23 - 18 1 5 9 10 14 16 18 20 22 23 24 31 33
24 - 28 1 7 9 14 16 18 20 22 24 28 29 31 33
25 - 5 5 6 8 10 11 13 17 23 25 27 30 34 36
26 - 27 0 2 4 6 15 17 19 21 25 26 27 32 34
27 -1 1 5 8 10 11 13 16 23 24 27 30 33 36
28 - 25 0 2 3 4 12 15 19 21 25 26 28 32 35
29 - 21 0 3 4 7 12 15 19 21 26 28 29 32 35
30 - 9 1 5 8 9 10 14 16 20 23 24 30 31 33
31 - 32 0 3 7 9 12 18 22 26 28 29 31 32 35
32 - 36 2 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34 36
33 - 35 1 7 9 12 14 18 20 22 28 29 31 33 35
34 - 16 5 6 8 10 11 13 16 23 24 27 30 34 36
35 - 34 0 2 3 4 15 17 19 21 25 26 32 34 35
36 - 14 1 5 8 10 11 14 16 20 23 24 30 33 36
Spielbank online 1 4th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 98 spins +115-00 (three 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 64 spins +163-00 (two 12 bets)
Running total = +278-00
Spielbank online 1 5th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 58 spins +135-00 (one 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 67 spins +142-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +555-00
Spielbank online 1 6th august 2007
1st session = 4 wins 1 loss 76 spins -941-00 (four 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 108 spins +157-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = -229-00
***Skipped to 11th august, knew 7th/8th/9th august were winners with 8 numbers & 11th/12th August were 3 losses with 8 numbers***
Spielbank online 1 11th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 70 spins +136-00 (two 12 bets)
2nd session= 2 wins 160 spins +63-00 (no 12 bets) *** too many spins, IF I was playing 4 real I would of stopped, so I did ***
Running total = -30-00
Spielbank online 1 12th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 49 spins +149-00 (no 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 160 spins +139-00 (no 12 bets)
Running total = +258-00
Spielbank online 1 13th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 122 spins +164-00 (no 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 148 spins +133-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +555-00
Spielbank online 1 14th august 2007
1st session = 1 win 120 spins +30-00 (no 12 bets) ***had to stop 1 bet in 129 spins !!!***
2nd session= 5 wins 58 spins +136-00 (no 12 bets)
Running total = +721-00
Spielbank online 1 15th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 170 spins +153-00 (one 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 78 spins +142-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +1,016-00
More to come...
More data [smiley=wink.gif]
Spielbank online 1 16th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 76 spins +138-00 (one 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 65 spins +147-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +1,301-00
Spielbank online 1 17th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 106 spins +156-00 (no 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 1274 spins +139-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +1,596-00
Spielbank online 1 18th august 2007
1st session = 6 wins 28 spins +139-00 (three 12 bets) *** amazing 6 1st progression wins ***
2nd session= 5 wins 121 spins +146-00 (three 12 bets)
Running total = +1,881-00
Spielbank online 1 19th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 90 spins +139-00 (one 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 74 spins +149-00 (two 12 bets)
Running total = +2,169-00
Spielbank online 1 20th august 2007
1st session = 6 wins 46 spins +168-00 (two 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 84 spins +154-00 (two 12 bets)
Running total = +2,491-00
Spielbank online 1 21st august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 66 spins +125-00 (two 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 67 spins +154-00 (two 12 bets)
Running total = +2,770-00
Spielbank online 1 22nd august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 82 spins +147-00 (no 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 130 spins +139-00 (two 12 bets)
Running total = +3,056-00
Spielbank online 1 23rd august 2007
1st session = 3 wins 138 spins +83-00 (one 12 bets) *** too many spins but enough chance to bet***
2nd session= 5 wins 81 spins +140-00 (two 12 bets)
Running total = +3,279-00
Won = 152 Lost = 1 (33 sessions)
More to come...
Here we go....
Spielbank online 1 24th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 79 spins +170-00 (three 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 126 spins +121-00 (three 12 bets)
Running total = +3,570-00
Won = 162 Lost = 1 (35 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 25th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 96 spins +149-00 (three 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 120 spins +23-00 (three 12 bets)
Running total = +3,742-00
Won = 168 Lost = 1 (37 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 26th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 79 spins +158-00 (one 12 bets)
2nd session= 3 wins 142 spins +79-00 (no 12 bets) *** no chance 2 bet so quit****
Running total = +3,979-00
Won = 176 Lost = 1 (39 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 27th august 2007
1st session = 4 wins 140 spins +132-00 (one 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 68 spins +151-00 (no 12 bets)
Running total = +4,183-00
Won = 182 Lost = 1 (40 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 28th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 62 spins +129-00 (no 12 bets)
2nd session= 1 loss 34 spins -1,040-00 (no 12 bets) ****numbers bet DIDN'T show for another 5 spins***
Running total = +3,272-00
Won = 187 Lost = 2 (42 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 29th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 107 spins +135-00 (two 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 173 spins +156-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +3,563-00
Won = 197 Lost = 2 (44 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 30th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 96 spins +157-00 (one 12 bets)
2nd session= 8 wins 137 spins +231-00 (two 12 bets) **** had the option to keep on betting so I did****
Running total = +3,951-00
Won = 210 Lost = 2 (46 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 31st august 2007
1st session = 3 wins 140 spins +119-00 (no 12 bets) ***no chance 2 bet***
2nd session= 3 wins 142 spins +86-00 (no 12 bets) *** no chance 2 bet***
Running total = +4,156-00
Won = 216 Lost = 2 (48 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 1st September 2007
1st session = 5 wins 87 spins +147-00 (no 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 130 spins +178-00 (two 12 bets)
Running total = +4,481-00
Won = 226 Lost = 2 (50 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 2nd September 2007
1st session = 4 wins 134 spins +113-00 (two 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 80 spins +153-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +4,747-00
Won =235 Lost = 2 (52 sessions)
Spielbank online 1 3rd September 2007
1st session = 1 loss 22 spins -1,007-00 (no 12 bets)
2nd session= 6 wins 1 loss 91 spins -868-00 (one 12 bets) **** had the option to keep on betting so I did**** ****numbers bet DIDN'T show for another 2 spins***
Running total = +2,872-00
Won = 242 Lost = 4 (54 sessions)
Will post more when I've tested more... [smiley=wink.gif]
Sorry I've bloody posted this in the wrong section [smiley=cry.gif]
Could one of you excellent administrators please put it were it belongs [smiley=dankk2.gif]
In my defence it is 03-30am in the Uk [smiley=wink.gif]
Cheers Guys !!!! [smiley=beer.gif]
If you are reading this in the "Full Systems" section, then it worked!
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Cheers VLS [smiley=beer.gif]
IF I had any hair, I could of claimed to of had a "blonde Moment" ;D
Hope things are good with you... [smiley=wink.gif]
[smiley=dankk2.gif] as always for your help....
I am sorry for throwing cold water on this idea, but the progression and bankroll required would exclude many ordinary forum members. It is good to exchange ideas but there is a big difference playing in virtual mode than laying $1000 down on the table. There are simpler ways to make money if you have a bankroll of those proportions. If you are prepared to play black chips then looking for imbalances in the short term, say 20-50 spins, should offer a better way to go in my opinion. How many times do you see the last 20 spins show 16:4 ratio on even chances? There is now an opportunity to grab a couple of units and skip.
Davo,
It is a fine observation, 16:4 I have seen it... but it is one of those "rare events".
The gist of roulette is betting the common "event" for a profit and not getting burned when the improbable happens.
If you can surf those waves, then you are a winner [smiley=thumbup.gif]
By the way, welcome to the crew!
Victor
Hi Davo,
The bankroll and progression are just set to 1 unit many online casino's offer you the chance to bet 0.10 / 0.25 units on a single number. BTW you would NEVER lay down £1000 the last progression is £390 [smiley=wink.gif]
I haven't found a system betting red / black (I think that's what you are on about :-?) that wins over a long period of so if you have one please post and share [smiley=wink.gif]
You can see the Solitude method would of made £2,872-00 from 54 sessions
More testing to do, but I think that pretty good !!!
Thanks for your reply and I hope you enjoy your time at this forum [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
BTW, I have played this for real will 0.25 units [smiley=wink.gif]
Thanks guys. I am still against progressions which depend on the improbable not happening. We all know that it does. Perhaps for the online player this is practical, not for bricks and mortar casino. VLS I am surprised you regard 16/4 as rare. Across all even chances in roulette I find it happens regularly, within say 150-200 spins. So many other unusual events appear in that time giving the observant and patient player the opportunity. Now there are at least four pairs of even chances, R/B, H/L, O/E, lines arranged in groups of 18. I have even seen one side of a wheel dominate to this extent. Now you wouldn't really think that was possible would you? You could group finals in 18/19 ratio........1,3,5,7,9 and 2,4,6,8,0 if you prefer inside numbers. The argument on long term is always popped out on forums to somehow try and convince that one particular set of rules is superior to another. It is a flawed argument in that no set of system rules is infallible against the wheel. Only the player can adapt his play to suit his style and bankroll and maybe come out ahead consistently. What useful working ideas are gleaned from these forums are merely the first step to walking up a very steep hill. Unfortunately, many members appear to believe that one day the ultimate set of rules will be revealed that beats the game consistently for everyone. We are all individuals whose behaviour inside the casino does not always reflect the person who walked in with a clear head and clear set of rules.
To Davo & Xman
Davo...welcome Mate.....I too sometimes see an opportunity to make some xtra units courtesy of John Solitude that Xman Is Quoting.
What I do Though is divide the single Zero wheel into half.
Draw a line from & includeing the #22 to #34 going clockwise.=19 numbers
Then still going clockwise that leaves you #6 to 9=18 number
I call them Top & bottom.
Now I have had Maltezan who is a dealer send me his tests & I have also my own tests.
In all those spins tested only twice has it gone to 10 times until it hits the other one on the 11 spin.
The Rest are from 5 to 8 times missed & then Hit.
John Solitude in His book says that for 18 to 19 to miss 7 times then its 99% plus degree of certainty to hit.
I have no reason to not believe what He says is the truth.
However from say 99.3% to a 100% can be many many spins.
So what I have done is find a 50c table & when it has missed 6 times on the bottom half I bet the 18 numbers x 50c=$9 If it wins I win $9
If that loses I bet $1 x 18=$18 if it wins I win $9
If that lost & so Far it has not I would bet $1.50 x 18=$27 if it wins I have My $54 Back
If that lost I would stop & accept the $54 loss.
Now some of our Members here have access to 10c tables so it could be a way for them to win a few dollars.
Please note I am not telling anyone to bet this way I am only saying what I have found over many thousands of spins that it could be a benefit to people in the future.To snare a few bucks here & there.
By the way the bets can be lower..knowing that one day I would put this forward..I looked ahead & designed those numbers so that the splits could be taken.
The splits are Z/1..5/8..6/9..10/11..13/14..16..20..23/24.. 27/30..33/36..31=$5.50 on a 50c wheel.
Or $1.10 on a 10c table
Now please both Davo & Xman read on.
Xman.....Mate I have posted My evens plan in ( Lanky's Evens System ) section.
It works on all the even bets=Red Black...Odd Even...High & Low I prefer Red Black,high & Low.
I don't know if it will work long time or not but I have used it for about 3 years.
Now My Balls & I have become firm friends over the years.
And I am sure that relationship will continue providing I don't lose them.
So I am Loath to bet Them.
But On this occasion I will.
I will bet You that as Victor has said about the Lw pattern being there since roulette started.
So has My evens Plan.
They have both been there all this time...what it took was for someone to see them & tell about them.
Both Plans don't suit a lot of people because they involve sitting in virtual or waiting for the patterns to form so that they can be bet on.
They suit Me just fine because I am a Strategic Player that wants to bet when the Percentages are in My Favour to Win most times......And If I get the Time-line right then I am on My way to Winning.
Of Course there are never any Guarantees with any plan Especially when my Balls are at risk..lol
Your Friend
Lanky
[smiley=dankk2.gif] Lankey I will take a look at your Evens Systems and see what's what.
ALWAYS looking for new ways to play [smiley=wink.gif]
Cheers... [smiley=beer.gif]
QuoteVLS I am surprised you regard 16/4 as rare.
You are right. I have seen the marquee at my local casino (about 14 numbers) full of only one color, -this is RARE-, or with as little as 1 or 2 of one color with a "so so" frequency.
Since I'm not much of an even chances player I'm
not monitoring all the even chances at once all the time. I basically only see/notice red/
black at the marquee.
...Let's degrade it from the word "rare" then. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
QuoteI find it happens regularly, within say 150-200 spins.
For some people 150-200 spins is one full session mate.
You know, as with boob size, the ceiling of a regular guy is the floor for a big boobie lover. [smiley=wink.gif]
I guess I have some advantage here as the VDU displays the last twenty numbers so it is quite easy to follow any number of even chances. I understand it is not so easy trying to follow marquees that only display 14 numbers. The event is certainly not rare and that 150 spins or so is just a guess. I suspect it happens more often. There seems to be some prominent members of these forums who have some aversion to playing the even chances in preference to dozens, columns, lines and inside numbers. I like comparing some of the methods that have been offered on this forum and others to see if there is any advantage not playing an even chance over 18 numbers scattered around the wheel. I haven't found a significant difference as yet. Amazing how the ball manages to weave its way around numbers when you think you have covered all possible options. Anyway back to the 16/4 caper: the astute player should be able to take advantage of these situations to accumulate a couple of units consistently without resorting to life-saving progressions. To me 150-200 spins might be a session, but it is definitely worth the wait to find these imbalances. I suppose that doesn't suit some players who want easy rules and instant profits. I put Lanky's even chance system through my last session on R/B and H/L and the results were 10W/13L and 22W/16L. Only a small sample but the idea is good for a few units and does not appear to have wild swings of wins and losses so don't need large bankroll to support downswings.
Quote I put Lanky's even chance system through my last session on R/B and H/L and the results were 10W/13L and 22W/16L. Only a small sample but the idea is good for a few units and does not appear to have wild swings of wins and losses so don't need large bankroll to support downswings.
Mate I would Like to see How You played Them.
Because the 10W/13L & the 22W/16L <<can be misleading
Or could You Post the numbers here for Me Please.
Thanks Cobber
Lanky
Hi Lanky,
I played them exactly as per your rules. Wait for one chance to appear three or more then the opposite chance to appear less than three on three separate occasions. Then bet against that chance after it next appears. Stop if this chance appears three times, that is after two losing bets. Then requalify next chance. I could put the numbers down but it is time consuming. What part is likely to be misleading?
well for argument Sake
You coul have
L=1 bet -1
W=2 bet=+1=[1] Profit
L=1 bet -1
W=2 bet=1+1={2] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+2=[3] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+3=[4] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+4=[5] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+5=[6] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+6=[7] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+7=[8] Profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+8=[9] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+9=[10] profit
L=1 bet-1
L=2 bet -3.......
22 bets for 10 wins & 12 loses
Still gives you {7] profit Mate
Thats the sort of thing I am talking about Davo
Lanky
Lanky,
I just presented the raw win/loss data. Not to be termed misleading really. But you are talking about money management and progressions. That is up to the player I guess as there are many different ways to tackle even chances with progressions, some aggressive, some conservative which is my preference. Either way the basic win/loss ratio is as it is according to the rules.
QuoteLanky,
I just presented the raw win/loss data. Not to be termed misleading really. But you are talking about money management and progressions. That is up to the player I guess as there are many different ways to tackle even chances with progressions, some aggressive, some conservative which is my preference. Either way the basic win/loss ratio is as it is according to the rules.
Davo....Mate
I did not mean that you were misleading anything.....lets get that straight first.
What I said was that the win ratio could be misleading as I pointed out.....nothing about you personally.
And of course You are right everyone has the right to play the even chance anyway they want.
But I did not design the system to be played that way There has to be a 1 + 2 bet to begin with.
or otherwise you will only break even & not win on the 2nd bet Cobber.
You can play it as You see it but its not the way as per the rules as I stated them.
Lanky
I didn't take it personally Lanky. Now using your 1-2 unit bets the results would have been +10 for H/L and -7 for R/B. I feel that it is possible to improve on these figures with the plus coup progression but the risk could be greater.
Mate
It is there to be improved on Cobber.
That's the reason I put it there so someone Like Yourself maybe can improve on what I Have done.
It can go 20 plus win bets(1+2) before the trend ends Mate
I think the most I saw was 33 win bets before the oposite came up.
Used in conjuction with some other way of playing is really good Mate.
I love it but if someone improved it I would love it a lot more ......LOL
Good On Ya Mate
Lanky
Hi guys. Just thought you'd like to know.
On Sat**day I went to Grand West Casino in Cape Town. Spent the whole day there and played the touch screen Roulette.
Recorded +/- 400 spins with several relief groupiers involved.
I noticed the following.
If I took the 0 and 6 numbers to the left of that, and I took 6 numbers to the right from the 0 as well, for a total of 13 numbers altogether, I found that this sector hit 39%. I realized that the groupiers often try and hit the zero. I found that the zero came up 2,8% of the 400 spins. Doesn't seem to be alot right? Well either side of the zero featured pretty prominent. Why try and hit zero? Well alot of people play outside bets, what a way to wack 'em right? There was also 2 x 0 double spins in the 400 spins. Never were there more than 5 straight spins not hitting in the sector and this happened about only 4-5 times. I think Mr. Solitude has got something here. Well think about it, if you believe that groupiers can at least hit sections on a wheel and that the zero usually causes alot of damage, then why not try and spin it! I'm definately going to try something in this direction next time round. Lanky gave me some good advice...AGAIN, and he recons one could play the top half of the wheel if the zero featurus up north. If Lanky says so then it is so! I recon this will be quite interesting and given the spins recorded I think that he would of had beautiful results.
Anyhow, thought I'd share
Cheers 'till later
[size=12][/size] ;D ;D ;D
Hi again,
went to Dublinbet and tried my sector around 0.
38 spins, 15 spins in my sector going clockwise from and including 7 to and including 2.
started with 500 playmoney ended with 1097.
Was it luck?
I still believe this sector is prominent because of the 0
Hi Jakkalsdraai,
I think dublinbet is a good place to play this, I've been on there at say 3/4 am and as the dealers have no customers they do seem to go for that zero [smiley=laugh.gif]
Also welcome to the forum, I hope you enjoy your time here... [smiley=wink.gif]
The above 38 spins were on table 2 and were as follows:
0 - W
11 - L
33 - L
12 - W
26 - W
4 - W
31 - L
3 - W
1 - L
2 - W
2 - W
7 - W
36 - L
10 - L
29 - L
15 - W
13 - L
6 - L
25 - L
11 - L
15 - W
14 - L
12 - W
2 - W
27 - L
19 - W
3 - W
35 - W
;D ;D ;D ;D
Yep, but on Sat**day at Grand West in Cape Town, +/- 39% in that same sector. Groupiers also aim for zero
;D
Thanx for the welcome.
Much appreciated.
cheers ;)
Not a problem [smiley=wink.gif]
You need to remember those first results are from 38 spins, the general benchmark for testing a system / method is 10,000 spins [smiley=shocked.gif]
You need to go through the highs n lows to find out if it has staying power..... [smiley=wink.gif]
I think there is merit to that type of situation that Jakkalsdraai is pointing out. It could work in double instances with the American wheel.
I would probably be inclined to play situationally in this case. A certain imbalance of the wheel, or perhaps a long streak of not hitting that sector would be the "trigger" to play.
Mathematically, you have a 35% chance of hitting with those numbers on a Euro wheel; 34+% on the American wheel. Maybe a test of 10 spins yields only 1 hit in a sample, therefore maybe begin play for the wheel to "correct" itself using a pluscoup or ATILA progression. Or, as was said before - 5 straight losses in that sector and begin play there. As was said before, "there are several ways to skin a cat".
I like the 5-in-a-row-miss strategy mentioned by Cps10. If I can only stop working early enough today, I'm of to Grand West to go give it a try.
[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Best of Luck Jakkalsdraai [smiley=wink.gif]
Pls let us know how you get on....
Yes...5 straight losses in a sector, and begin playing it with a mild progression. You must be smart in when you cut it off. You don't want to start chasing, but live to fight another day.
Hello mates and cps10,
Here is the link to the ebook WHEEL FREQUENCY ANALYSIS :
nolinks://nolinks.uxsoftware.com/download/articles/JSWFAv3_1.pdf
Hope this helps,
JLP.-
Thanks as always JLP!
From the tests i have done i would say john solitudes maths are pretty accurate and not far out. I have had some superb results with his methods.
Any chance to get a piece of bjb007 software about that?
Ice
Ice.....
What does Solitude say? Wait for x number of adjacent pockets to sleep x number of times? 9 pocket sector for 9 spins, for example? That's exactly what KFS's "Alert" software will do. Then it lists them for you in numerical order so you can easily bet.
Check it out; it's something!
Sam
Geezzz Sam,
You're right! Sorry I'm a little bit distracted in this time.....
thanks
Ice
Sam, sorry 2.
I really don't understand the software instructions.
Can you make a shot of the correct settings?
Thanks so much
Ice
I played 85 sessions with Raindrop, won 80 and lost 5. 2 sessions loss was my failure, I didn't concentrate and bet some wrong numbers. You win over 100 units /session and lose 500. It needs a little bit intuition and that's the problem (lacking an intuition) by many gamblers.
I changed it to Rainbow system after my twists. The difference is that I don't bet a number which came and interrupted the "hole" of sleepers, and if zeros come during the 12 spin period I wait with the bets and ad spins before decision what numbers to bet. E.g. 2 zeros hit in 12 collecting spins, then I ad 2 spins before deciding what numbers to bet (all together to wait 14 spins).
If played properly, it is a winner system, not an infallible, but many don't understand it and make quick and wrong judgment.
Hermes
Ice
I am going to assume a nine number sector that has not hit in nine spins. Could be any numbers. Look at the shot and read below:
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Notice I've checked "cold" and then put in a 9 and another 9? That would alert you when any nine pockets has not had a ball in nine spins!
Again, thanks to KFS!!
Ice...feel free to ask more questions. Hey! We could make a movie!! 8)
Sam
Sam,
you're my mentor!
Have you made some test yet?
Which money manegment do you suggest?
Thank you!
Ice
Sam,
I'm so sorry.
I've tried the software but I really don't understand how to use it...
Where is the ALERT sign?
I keep on insert number but nothing happen.
So pleeeese, I'll bring some beers, you make a movie!
Yours truly Ice
Hi Ice,
As the author of the software. maybe I can explain:
First of all:
Did you open w0alert.html, in your browser?
Second: Do you see the instructions at the right side of the screen?
Third: Have you tried to simply click the lay-out AT LEAST nine times to get your first alert?
(You will not get an alert before the min number of spins - of course)
More questions?
KFS
Kon (& Sam)
I am a poor stupid Italian boy...
As I charging spin from DB, I had the page of the program moved all on the right outside the screen and I did not see the alert section!
Sorry for the waste of time....
Ice
:)
Great!
I hope you enjoy the script!
KFS
For 9 numbers bet you have to wait 17 spins and the 9 sleepers have to be a tight neighbors (not many hits between them, best no hit at all). The less numbers you bet the less probability of win. I got an excellent results betting 12 numbers after at least 12 spins. I got a good results with betting 18 numbers after 10 spins. I wouldn't go under betting less than 10 numbers.
The sleepers you bet cannot be scattered around the wheel. Only if the KFC software can do that it is a good help for Raindrop.
Hermes
Listen, Ice, I gave KFS a hard time too cause I wasn't looking.
Let's all look harder!
Sam
Sam, Hermes,
how do you bet?
Let's say you wait for 9 spins (12 hermes) then you start betting the 9 (or 12) cold sector numbers.
Do you keep on charging every number spun or restart new 9 spins after a hit?
I mean do you play continually?
Ice
ice
I've never play that particular system.
Sam
Iceberg, after 12 spins you look for hole of 12 numbers on the wheel if you bet 12 numbers, if 9 #s you have to wait at least 17 spins before bet. After win you reset and wait another 12 spins before bet. In land casino it is better to play on full table because you need at least 3 minutes to decide which ones and put the bets. Later it takes much less but in hurry we always make mistakes. Practice at home. Online betting is easy because of pushing the rebet and ad to every number a unit, not the same in land casino!
Important message: It doesn't have to be always hole without any numbers but look for the part on the wheel where is the most poor hitting section (most uneven distribution). I never bet the numbers which polluted the hole already. I bet only the sleepers in the holes.
John includes the few numbers fallen in the hole in the chosen team to bet.
Hermes
Thnk you hermes
Ice
Quote from: xman1970 on November 18, 2007, 12:12:12 AM
Ok here the data enjoy... [smiley=wink.gif]
Firstly here is a list of sections and their numbers....
0 - 13 0 2 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34
1 - 3 1 3 7 9 12 14 18 20 22 28 29 31 35
2 - 10 2 6 8 10 11 13 17 23 25 27 30 34 36
3 - 6 0 2 3 4 6 15 17 19 21 25 26 32 34
4 - 8 2 4 6 8 11 13 17 21 25 27 30 34 36
5 - 7 1 5 7 9 14 16 18 20 22 24 29 31 33
6 - 33 5 6 8 10 11 13 16 23 24 27 30 33 36
7 - 2 0 2 3 4 7 12 15 19 21 26 28 32 35
8 - 22 1 5 8 9 10 14 16 20 22 23 24 31 33
9 - 15 0 3 7 9 12 15 18 22 26 28 29 32 35
10 - 29 1 5 9 10 14 16 18 20 22 24 29 31 33
11 - 31 1 5 8 10 11 14 16 20 23 24 30 31 33
12 - 17 0 2 3 4 12 15 17 19 21 25 26 32 35
13 - 20 1 5 8 10 11 13 16 20 23 24 30 33 36
14 - 0 0 3 7 9 12 14 18 22 26 28 29 31 35
15 - 11 2 4 6 11 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 34 36
16 - 12 1 7 9 12 14 16 18 20 22 28 29 31 33
17 - 24 5 6 8 10 11 13 17 23 24 27 30 34 36
18 - 4 0 3 4 7 12 15 18 19 26 28 29 32 35
19 - 30 2 4 6 11 13 17 19 21 25 27 30 34 36
20 - 26 3 7 9 12 14 18 20 22 26 28 29 31 35
21 - 23 2 6 8 11 13 17 21 23 25 27 30 34 36
22 - 19 0 3 7 12 15 18 19 22 26 28 29 32 35
23 - 18 1 5 9 10 14 16 18 20 22 23 24 31 33
24 - 28 1 7 9 14 16 18 20 22 24 28 29 31 33
25 - 5 5 6 8 10 11 13 17 23 25 27 30 34 36
26 - 27 0 2 4 6 15 17 19 21 25 26 27 32 34
27 -1 1 5 8 10 11 13 16 23 24 27 30 33 36
28 - 25 0 2 3 4 12 15 19 21 25 26 28 32 35
29 - 21 0 3 4 7 12 15 19 21 26 28 29 32 35
30 - 9 1 5 8 9 10 14 16 20 23 24 30 31 33
31 - 32 0 3 7 9 12 18 22 26 28 29 31 32 35
32 - 36 2 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34 36
33 - 35 1 7 9 12 14 18 20 22 28 29 31 33 35
34 - 16 5 6 8 10 11 13 16 23 24 27 30 34 36
35 - 34 0 2 3 4 15 17 19 21 25 26 32 34 35
36 - 14 1 5 8 10 11 14 16 20 23 24 30 33 36
Spielbank online 1 4th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 98 spins +115-00 (three 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 64 spins +163-00 (two 12 bets)
Running total = +278-00
Spielbank online 1 5th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 58 spins +135-00 (one 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 67 spins +142-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +555-00
Spielbank online 1 6th august 2007
1st session = 4 wins 1 loss 76 spins -941-00 (four 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 108 spins +157-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = -229-00
***Skipped to 11th august, knew 7th/8th/9th august were winners with 8 numbers & 11th/12th August were 3 losses with 8 numbers***
Spielbank online 1 11th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 70 spins +136-00 (two 12 bets)
2nd session= 2 wins 160 spins +63-00 (no 12 bets) *** too many spins, IF I was playing 4 real I would of stopped, so I did ***
Running total = -30-00
Spielbank online 1 12th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 49 spins +149-00 (no 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 160 spins +139-00 (no 12 bets)
Running total = +258-00
Spielbank online 1 13th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 122 spins +164-00 (no 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 148 spins +133-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +555-00
Spielbank online 1 14th august 2007
1st session = 1 win 120 spins +30-00 (no 12 bets) ***had to stop 1 bet in 129 spins !!!***
2nd session= 5 wins 58 spins +136-00 (no 12 bets)
Running total = +721-00
Spielbank online 1 15th august 2007
1st session = 5 wins 170 spins +153-00 (one 12 bets)
2nd session= 5 wins 78 spins +142-00 (one 12 bets)
Running total = +1,016-00
More to come...
By any chance does anyone have the numbers for the 18 nos section in this format and the progression and how many spins to bet?that will be a great help.From what I understand, you wait for 7 misses for 18 no. section
Any kind soul please lend a help with this please
QuoteAny kind soul please lend a help with this please
Ok.
The system doesn't stand a chance in hell of working. It's foundation is built on the gambler's fallacy.
see_jerek asked for a kind soul, Herb.............. ;D
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on November 02, 2008, 04:28:02 PM
see_jerek asked for a kind soul, Herb.............. ;D
yeah not a wet blanket.
Herb since you got hell a lot of ideas,please present us with a system that works at least besides VB instead of just being pure negative,doesn't help at all.
Please be helpful
jerek
That slew of numbers was from xman, right? Surely he can help you. I'm not sure what you want and I'm not totally sure I'm a kind soul! ;D
I've been called a grouch!! >:(
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 02, 2008, 04:44:24 PM
jerek
That slew of numbers was from xman, right? Surely he can help you. I'm not sure what you want and I'm not totally sure I'm a kind soul! ;D
I've been called a grouch!! >:(
Sam
At lease you are being constructive! ;)
Constructive Grouch!
I love it!!
Was my explanation incomplete? Should have I included more detail? lol.:)
-Herb
"By any chance does anyone have the numbers for the 18 nos section in this format and the progression and how many spins to bet?that will be a great help.From what I understand, you wait for 7 misses for 18 no. section"
Hey Jerek,
Yep from what John says in his PDF you wait 7 misses for 18 numbers. As for the rest of what you ask, sorry I haven't played that way so I just don't know.... :-[
Hi see,
you tried downloading mattymatz 12-18 excel tracker ;)
he's got all 37 sections
its a great tool
hope i was of some help
all the best berlinerbruce ;)
ps, about the progression, i worked it out on a calculater sometime ago, will look and see if i still got it , ;)bye
Quote from: berlinerbruce on November 15, 2008, 08:37:57 PM
Hi see,
you tried downloading mattymatz 12-18 excel tracker ;)
he's got all 37 sections
its a great tool
hope I was of some help
all the best berlinerbruce ;)
ps, about the progression, I worked it out on a calculater sometime ago, will look and see if I still got it , ;)bye
I have the sections just have no idea about the progressions so its now up to you bruce!
Thanks