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Title: About randomness
Post by: Herb on October 01, 2008, 02:00:54 AM
nolinks://nolinks.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=how-randomness-rules-our-world (nolinks://nolinks.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=how-randomness-rules-our-world)
Title: Re: About randomness
Post by: Shorty on October 01, 2008, 02:29:59 AM
Good read. :)
Title: Re: About randomness
Post by: Herb on October 01, 2008, 11:36:21 AM
Mr. Chips,


I know you want to believe that changing the red/black to P, M, or Z will change things and create a dueness factor, but it won't. 

The article is what it is.  You will take from it what you will.  I posted it because I found it interesting. 

The Monty Hall problem still drives me nuts to this day. :) 

-Herb






Title: Re: About randomness
Post by: Herb on October 01, 2008, 12:06:44 PM
Mr. Chips,

You are wrong.  So promptly return all of the money that you have won to the casino by later this afternoon, so that we can avoid this contradiction. :)

(Just joking)


The aritcle is what it is.

For the record, I'm a go with the trend person.

-Herb
Title: Re: About randomness
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 01, 2008, 12:18:05 PM
In mind I took the "Monty Hall Paradox"--as I've heard it called--a step further.  I'm sure millions have done the same thing, so I'm not trying to create the illusion of brilliance.

Say your doors were large boxes.  Monty opens a box and there is no goat.  Now the crew comes in and totally removes that box from the stage.  A second contestant is waiting in a sound-proof room and is brought in.

Each contestant is told to pick a box.  Since the removal of the box has no bearing on the first contestant and his 2/3 chance of winning, nothing changes for him.  However, our new contestant does have a 50/50 chance of winning.  Two guesses; two different odds of winning.

All because of what the first contestant knew.  Seems very strange to me.

Sam
Title: Re: About randomness
Post by: Kon-Fu-Sed on October 01, 2008, 01:00:14 PM
Great Sam!
[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

The key-word - as you correctly say - is information.
The first one's got some while the second has none.


/KFS
Title: Re: About randomness
Post by: RoulettePlayer on October 01, 2008, 01:07:45 PM
nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_hall_problem (nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_hall_problem)

in case anyone's forgotten.  RP
Title: Re: About randomness
Post by: bjb007 on October 04, 2008, 06:06:49 PM
No matter how many times the link's posted
I'm not going to read it

Got enough problem already.
Title: Re: About randomness
Post by: Spike on October 06, 2008, 01:42:49 AM
If that jerk Monty would just show us which door has the car, we would never have to think about this again. It hurts my head.[smiley=3D-Smil-gros/36_12_11.gif] [smiley=3D-Smil-gros/36_12_13.gif] [smiley=3D-Smil-gros/36_2_63.gif]