Ok for your amusment i'm going to record the results of some real money games,a mixture of rng and live.
I intend to start with a 1 fund of 500 units at 25p chip size.As (if) i win, i shall increase the number of funds ,as these increase i shall add to each fund so that the chip size can be raised etc etc.I will also pay myself a small wage so that if (when) this thing loses, i might have made a few pennies.When i have made enough to pay off my mortgage and keep the missus in the life she is accustomed to i shall reveal what strategy i have been using. ;)
On a serious note this is more about money management and self control than anything else. I think that having to report to the forum will increase my self control.
As the name of the post suggests , this is just an experiment,an ongoing diary of a money management and self control. If i can make enough so that i am playing only with the casino's money then thats all i'm really hoping for.A win target for each session is 10% of the fund but using some judgement it could be plus or minus a few %.I'm starting with £125.
Ok this could be the shortest set of results you have ever seen, or prove some entertainment for you all for a while.Where she goes nobody knows!
I'm off for the first few sessions,will report back soon win or lose.
Looking forward to know your results dear Mr. Chips.
Sure, reporting will make it more interesting [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Victor
How much is your mortgage chips? It may be a while before you finish this experiment. Good luck man.
Regards
Clint
Big Chips = Mr. Chips?
Quote from: Mr Chips on October 04, 2008, 01:37:44 PM
Quote from: JHM on October 04, 2008, 01:01:45 PM
Big Chips = Mr. Chips?
Can't be me 25p chips :o
£££ Mr Chips £££
Big Mr. Chips [smiley=3/crystalman.gif]
SESSION 1 live
PROFIT: 61 units at 25p = £15.25
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 40 units = £10
WAGES: £5.25
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £15.25
OK just 1 session today as was running short of time,but a nice little learning session as well so some tweaking made.Afraid it will be small wins just now until the bankrolls grow bigger.
clint...if I keep on playing with 25p chips I should pay off my mortgage in around 214 years !!!!
Will the bankroll and bets keep growing?Can I turn £125 into a house? :o ::) :o ::)
Big Chips...
Keep in mind the fellow who turned a paper-clip
into a house.
Quote from: bjb007 on October 04, 2008, 06:11:13 PM
Big Chips...
Keep in mind the fellow who turned a paper-clip
into a house.
Is it true? I heard a story, a guy who started trading on ebay with a paper clip, kept trading and finally traded to a house.
Yep it true..... ;)
nolinks.oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com (nolinks://nolinks.oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com)
It was a coloured paper clip, though. ;D
ok a busy day today.
SESSION 2 live
PROFIT: 60 units at 25p = £15
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 84 units = £21
WAGES : £9.25
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £30 .25
SESSION 3 rng
PROFIT: 56 units at 25p = £14
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 124 units = £31
WAGES : £13.25
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £44.25
SESSION 4 rng
PROFIT: 58 units at 25p = £14.50
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 166 units = £41.50
WAGES : £17.25
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £58.75
SESSION 5 rng
PROFIT: 44 units at 25p = £11
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 194 units = £48.50
WAGES : £21.25
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £69.75
Nice1 Big Chips ;)
Going well so far, long may it continue..... :o
When posting your results could I be a pain & ask you to show how many spins each session was ????
If you can great :) If not so be it.....
Good luck....
Take it easy.....[smiley=beer.gif]
SESSION 6 rng
PROFIT: 51 units at 25p = £12.75
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 220 units = £55
WAGES : £27.50
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £82.50
A few bumps in the road today,did have about 80 units more winnings but a losing run took them away.I would usally chase them but i'm relying on some self control and decided to call it a day when in front.
Thanks xman .
I haven't been tracking the number of spins ( i know i should ) :o.The average spin range is 15 - 50 spins per session.Will try to make a note next session
That would be great thank you ;) Will give me an idea of your UPS (Units Per Spin profit)
As I said before good luck, n keep on rolling....... 8)
SESSION 7 rng
PROFIT: 72 units at 25p = £18
SPINS: 10
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 252 units = £63
WAGES : £37.50
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £100.50
I'm taking a bit more for my wages at the moment as I want to recoup twice my initial investment.That way even if I fail later down the line I have still doubled my money and it's in my pocket.
SESSION 8 rng
PROFIT: 56 units at 25p = £14
SPINS: 14
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 268 units = £67
WAGES : £47.50
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £114.50
SESSION 9 rng
PROFIT: 56 units at 25p = £14
SPINS: 4
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 284 units = £71
WAGES : £57.50
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £128.50
Hey Big Chips ;)
Very data again, I've just been going through the thread & I cannot see where it says what you are testing on, as in RNG or live wheel..... :-\
I wonder if you could be so kind as to inform us????
thanking you in advance..... 8)
SESSION 10 rng
PROFIT: 83 units at 25p = £20.75
SPINS: 17
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 324 units = £81
WAGES : £68.25
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £149.25
Hi BigChips,
Good luck with what your attempting!!
Could i ask what your are doing to attain your profits/losses? I.e. methodology?
Thanks
Luke
Hey xman
I will go back and put in nrg or live,i knew i forgot something!Sorry everyone :-\ :-\
Been so tired when i finally get a chance to type this up it's a wonder i can stay awa....
Thanks Big Chips ;)
I for one will only be looking for the "live wheel" results....
Cheers.....[smiley=beer.gif]
Hi luke
thanks mate.
All i'm doing at the moment is trying not to put myself in a losing situation.
Might sound a bit obvious but thats about all i can reveal just now,basically there is not much else to tell just yet.The first method i tried worked for a couple of sessions then got a bit rocky so i switched to a different type of system.So i can't say 'this how i bet' as at the moment it is constantly changing depending on the table,how i feel,my time limit etc etc.
So i guess that is my methodology in a fashion.If i continue to succeed in this i will no doubt change my thoughts and tactics and i will tell the board what i'm up to.
It's very 'organic' at this stage
Quote from: xman1970 on October 04, 2008, 07:16:56 PM
Yep it true..... ;)
nolinks.oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com (nolinks://nolinks.oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com)
That's nice, when this story gets famous enough. Maybe the paperclip is worth more than the house?
Quote from: Big Chips on October 04, 2008, 06:09:33 AM
Ok for your amusment i'm going to record the results of some real money games,a mixture of rng and live.
I intend to start with a 1 fund of 500 units at 25p chip size.As (if) I win, I shall increase the number of funds ,as these increase I shall add to each fund so that the chip size can be raised etc etc.I will also pay myself a small wage so that if (when) this thing loses, I might have made a few pennies.When I have made enough to pay off my mortgage and keep the missus in the life she is accustomed to I shall reveal what strategy I have been using. ;)
On a serious note this is more about money management and self control than anything else. I think that having to report to the forum will increase my self control.
As the name of the post suggests , this is just an experiment,an ongoing diary of a money management and self control. If I can make enough so that I am playing only with the casino's money then thats all i'm really hoping for.A win target for each session is 10% of the fund but using some judgement it could be plus or minus a few %.I'm starting with £125.
Ok this could be the shortest set of results you have ever seen, or prove some entertainment for you all for a while.Where she goes nobody knows!
I'm off for the first few sessions,will report back soon win or lose.
What system are you playing Big Chips?
Hey jhm
as replyed to luke, not really a system as such.More being a organic human being rather than a rigid system.
As (if) it continues and a system develops i will tell all.But i would rather not say 'this what i'm doing' as if it were to fail i would not want to wipe out any innocent bystanders.
Good for you BigChips - i think sometimes random strategy is the best way to beat the house edge long term!!! haha!!
all the best!
SESSION 11 rng
PROFIT: 46 units at 25p = £11.50
SPINS: 39
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 344 units = £86
WAGES : £74.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £160.75
Quote from: Big Chips on October 06, 2008, 05:41:29 PM
Hey jhm
as replyed to luke, not really a system as such.More being a organic human being rather than a rigid system.
As (if) it continues and a system develops I will tell all.But I would rather not say 'this what i'm doing' as if it were to fail I would not want to wipe out any innocent bystanders.
I see, you play al sort of bets? Flats bets, progressions. Numbers, streets, blocks, colour, high-low, dozen..etc?
At the moment i've stayed away from the e/c 's and i've only dabbled with the dozens once for this experiment.It's been mild progressions only so as to keep the session lengths short.Variations of the attilla has been the most comman so far, but when I see that it's going wrong I change it to something safer and change numbers too sometimes.If you change and your numbers then come up,tough,they might not have done should you have stuck with them.Nothing is due to you.Thats I bit more of my methodology.
I might be on dozens tommorow,just depends on how the board is looking.The only thing I don't like about the e/c's and dozens/cols is that it makes for a longer game.If I was aiming for a target % of 2-5% I might do a lot more with them as the possibility of reaching your target is a lot more likely than my current 10% aim.But that might be my downfall :-\ :-\
SESSION 12 rng
PROFIT: 49 units at 25p = £12.25
SPINS: 5
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 360 units = £90
WAGES : £83
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £173
SESSION 13 rng
PROFIT: 60 units at 25p = £15
SPINS: 26
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 380 units = £95
WAGES : £93
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £188
SESSION 14 rng
PROFIT: 60 units at 25p = £17.25
SPINS: 47
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 400 units = £100
WAGES : £105.25
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £205.25
SESSION 15 rng
PROFIT: 52 units at 25p = £13
SPINS: 1
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 420 units = £105
WAGES : £113.25
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £218.25
SESSION 16 rng
PROFIT: 59 units at 25p = £14.75
SPINS: 1
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 440 units = £110
WAGES : £123
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £233
At this point the total bet on the table has never been more than about 50 units.And this has only happened a couple of times
Thanks for putting RNG or LIVE Big Chips....
It's greatly appreciated...... 8)
Cheers.....[smiley=beer.gif]
SESSION 17 rng
PROFIT: 50 units at 25p = £12.50
SPINS: 20
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 460 units = £115
WAGES : £130.50
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £245.50
SESSION 18 rng
PROFIT: 45 units at 25p = £11.25
SPINS: 9
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 480 units = £120
WAGES : £136.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £256.75
SESSION 19 rng
PROFIT: 85 units at 25p = £21.25
SPINS: 11
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 500 units = £125
WAGES : £153
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £278
Ok feeling a bit more settled now that i have 2 bankrolls and have paid myself a little wage.
Have had some stupid sessions that i guess i got lucky on and some others that went like a dream.Hey thats roulette for you.I'm a little worried that i will ride my luck out sooner rather than later so i given myself a boot up the backside and am going to play more carefully with lower progessions should they be needed.
The next few sessions are based on a principle coming from the 3peats thread.Again nothing is set in stone.Just i like this foundation to lead me down a slightly less turbulant path.
SESSION 20 rng
PROFIT: 71 units at 25p = £17.75
SPINS: 17
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 3: 20 units = £5
WAGES : £165.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £290.75
SESSION 21 rng
PROFIT: 73 units at 25p = £18.25
SPINS: 14
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 3: 40 units = £10
WAGES : £179
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £309
SESSION 22 rng
PROFIT: 40 units at 25p = £10
SPINS: 25
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 3: 60 units = £15
WAGES : £184
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £319
SESSION 23 rng
PROFIT: 63 units at 25p = £15.75
SPINS: 29
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 3: 80 units = £20
WAGES : £194.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £334.75
SESSION 24 rng
PROFIT: 53 units at 25p = £13.25
SPINS: 7
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 3: 100 units = £25
WAGES : £203
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £348
Ok it had to happen,lost an entire bankroll.Thing was i had already won around £85 that day from several sessions.So carried on and won it back again plus 1 session of profit :) :) :)
I won't post all the losing/win sessions,just the 1 that put me into profit in the end.
SESSION 25 rng
PROFIT: 47 units at 25p = £11.75
SPINS: 12
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 3: 120 units = £30
WAGES : £209.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £359.75
does anyone still want me to post individual sessions or would a weekly round up do?I don't mind doing either.
All i will say at the moment is that this way of playing seems to be working for a bit.But will it pay the house off? ::)? :o? ::)
Up to you BC ;)
You had to lose a session eventually..... :-\
Good luck.....[smiley=beer.gif]
At least you have paid for a few bricks of your house......... 8)
cheers buddy,
was just thinking that posting each session would create a very loooong thread,hopefully.
It is a diary of an experiment tho i suppose
Like i said it's up to you........ 8)
I would post em all :o :o :o
Has Big Chips paid off his mortgage yet? It's all gone quiet over here........
Clint
i think he is doing weekly posts now
The experiment is on temporary hold for a few days.Have been playing rng and now sick fed up with it.Had a losing session.But had a lot of questionable outcomes recently.So in the midst of transferring remaining units to a live site to play on real wheel.
I know that rng is never as good as the real thing and i've enjoyed a good spell on it,but i sense a change in luck so if i lose on a live wheel a last i can't run to you all and cry i've been cheated,just unlucky.There is a big difference in my book.
SESSION 26 rng
PROFIT: 0 units at 25p = £F-ALL
SPINS: 63
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 120 units = £30
WAGES : £209.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £234.75
However this ends even now i would be in profit so it ain't all bad
SESSION 27 live
PROFIT: 71 units at 25p = £17.75
SPINS: 56
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 191 units = £47.75
WAGES : £209.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £252.50
Ok back up and running.Been too busy recently too.
All live from now on
SESSION 28 live
PROFIT: 104 units at 25p = £26
SPINS: 28
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 295 units = £73.75
WAGES : £209.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £278.50
SESSION 29 live
PROFIT: 155 units at 25p = £38.75
SPINS: 39
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 450 units = £112.50
WAGES : £209.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £317.25
Glad to hear that mate! Keep us posted! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
We sure enjoy it. :)
Thanks VLS,last session for today
SESSION 30 live
PROFIT: 74 units at 25p = £18.50
SPINS: 11
BANKROLL 1: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 2: 500 units = £125
BANKROLL 3: 24 units = £6
WAGES : £209.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE: £335.75
Ok , have changed the money management side of things a bit.I was at a combined bankroll of £256 (1024 units).It is now just 1 bankroll that wiil increase in size in a stepladder kind if fashion.
Also will do weekly updates as sometimes time is short and to prevent thread getting too long with posts about individual sessions.
So,
Week ending 16/11/08 , Profit of £56 (224 units)
BANKROLL : £312 (1248 units) unit size : 25p
WAGES : £209.75
TOTAL PROFIT TO DATE : £391.75
Average session length 35 spins
2 sessions played
PS all real wheel
Another 3 bricks of the house paid for ;)
3 bricks WILL be worth a lot more after the credit crunch.....[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Keep on rolling.....[smiley=beer.gif]
"after the credit crunch"
You mean, there's an end to it, xman?
Sam
2019 I think Sammy or maybe a year later..... ;)