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Title: can someone answer me this please?
Post by: ryan08 on October 18, 2008, 09:59:43 PM
hi, i am currently going through some spins (5000 from bet365) if the system i am looking at works with these 5000, would the results be similar if i played at another wheel aswell from a different casino, they should be but i am just asking because alot of people say every wheel produces different results, personally i dont believe this but i could use peoples opinions.

thanks
ryan
Title: Re: can someone answer me this please?
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 18, 2008, 10:04:29 PM
ryan

I have often wondered that myself.  Imagine a fretless wheel.  Instead of frets, each number had a very slight depression that would catch and hold the ball.  The ball would spin around for what seems an eternity, but sooner or later it would come to rest.

Would this wheel produce the same results as a Huxley Starburst?

The reason I post this?  There are "shallow fret" wheels in Vegas where the ball does run for what seems forever before it stops.  Others have tall frets and the ball lands and stays.

Over a million, billion, gazillion spins---would these wheels produce different results.  If they can't in the long run, how can they in the short run?

Sam
Title: Re: can someone answer me this please?
Post by: VLSroulette on October 18, 2008, 10:15:13 PM
It depends on what you are looking for in the short term. If it is -for instance- at the red/black even chance level, chances are there is no big significant difference, but if you are targetting a Visual Ballistic / Dealer-based system where you compute scatter after the ball hits the rotor, diferrent results with different wheel pockets: definitely!

Statistically, all unbiased wheels must comply in the long term with -2.7% or -5.26%, so when talking "large numbers" it still must keep the expected "statistically correct" averages for an unbeatable game.

Remember countermeasures are in place for physical methods. Statistics / Mathematical / Gambler's fallacy players can be certain they aren't being targetted with those physical countermeasures.

Regards,
Victor
Title: Re: can someone answer me this please?
Post by: ryan08 on October 18, 2008, 10:35:20 PM
thanks for the replies guys, i suppose the system i am trying would fall under the gamblers fallacy, i had a flat bet idea that i am running through the spins for, so far iv only made 20 units in 4 hours, does not look much but its very little loss (-4 biggest so far), so allthough i wouldnt do this so far you could use up to 20% of your bankroll and be safe, im playing for every 100 i earn i up the bets 1 unit, so 100 br 1unit bet, 1000 10 unit etc.

itll take me a few days but if it works i shall post the results
Title: Re: can someone answer me this please?
Post by: See_Jerek on October 19, 2008, 08:02:17 AM
Quote from: ryan08 on October 18, 2008, 10:35:20 PM
thanks for the replies guys, I suppose the system I am trying would fall under the gamblers fallacy, I had a flat bet idea that I am running through the spins for, so far iv only made 20 units in 4 hours, does not look much but its very little loss (-4 biggest so far), so allthough I wouldnt do this so far you could use up to 20% of your bankroll and be safe, im playing for every 100 I earn I up the bets 1 unit, so 100 br 1unit bet, 1000 10 unit etc.

itll take me a few days but if it works I shall post the results


20 units in 4 hours is cool ryan.How many units did you start with 100?
Title: Re: can someone answer me this please?
Post by: ryan08 on October 19, 2008, 11:24:19 AM
just started with 150,, but im testing it out starting from 100 for ease,