Hi guys.
I hope there isn't already a thre4ad for this system.
Does anybody plays Simon's dozen systen where you wait for the streak to break before betting?
thank you
I played & tested it for a while , always seemd to do well in quick hit and run session but system regularly hit losing periods that killed the br due to the progression.
Quote from: Vetkop on October 20, 2008, 09:51:21 AM
Hi guys.
I hope there isn't already a thre4ad for this system.
Does anybody plays Simon's dozen systen where you wait for the streak to break before betting?
thank you
Hello Vetkop,
Nice to see you here.I hit the wall 2 times playing it.I did try a another method using Lw.Record the streaks and only play after LL with progression.Much safer but its a long waiting game slow earner
see-jerek, I really like her. Could you be so kind and give me her telephone number?
To hit the wall with this system must be painful. So much bankroll gone for nothing.
The 1-2-3 ryan's system is probably safer, especially if you wait for 5 misses and than start to bet. You can do it on both D/C with cps10' ladder progression. Hard to lose ever.
Hermes
Quote from: hermes on October 20, 2008, 10:32:18 PM
see-jerek, I really like her. Could you be so kind and give me her telephone number?
To hit the wall with this system must be painful. So much bankroll gone for nothing.
The 1-2-3 ryan's system is probably safer, especially if you wait for 5 misses and than start to bet. You can do it on both D/C with cps10' ladder progression. Hard to lose ever.
Hermes
I tried Ryan's 1,2,3.It does not work,Ryan said himself that it seems to produce good results for couple of hundred spins then the bankroll just goes go and down.How do you play Cps10's ladder progression?Does it work with simon's dozen system?
Hi guys
Where can I find CPS10 ladder system? Must say I've been doing quite well with this system, but I play it with Victor's money management system as well, which i feel is a must.
The only thing that I'm not happy with so far is the progression.
Quote from: Vetkop on October 21, 2008, 06:46:19 AM
Hi guys
Where can I find CPS10 ladder system? Must say I've been doing quite well with this system, but I play it with Victor's money management system as well, which I feel is a must.
The only thing that I'm not happy with so far is the progression.
Hello Vetkop,
I think the system is easy to play and frankly I find it ok just don't like the progression like you don't.The only thing that still puzzle me today is how Simon won that kind of money with this system.
Well I've won +610 units in just over a week, so should be possible.
This system does work untill it hits a dozen a few times in a row and then changes to another dozen, cept when every other spin it reverts back to the dozen you are suppose to bet against.
Quote from: Vetkop on October 21, 2008, 12:50:09 PM
Well I've won +610 units in just over a week, so should be possible.
Whats the bet spread on your table?Is it a live wheel or RNG?The most I have won on this system is about 300 units a week then after there I hit the wall 2 times the following week.Its costly you know that
I think it should be a profitable system and I don't think Simon BS about how much he has won,the only drawback is the progression.it can get out of hand easily,I am hoping someone can come with something to lessen the damage here.so far I haven't get any ideas.
The only way i can think of is stop the progression at 1/3/9 thats the furthest but by doing that again may reduce profits and cause other problems
see_jerek, after i lost with this system i did start stoping after 9 units on each and i just closed everything down for an hour or so and went back and bult up my Br again. This seems to be the only way to control the progression cause i would get up easily 30 - 50 units before i might take a hit so if i stop after 3rd step thats only 26$ lose so i would still be up on avaerage 4 - 24$ depending on how often it was hitting before.
OK guys I hope I get cps10 permission to place here the ladder:
1-1-2-4-5-8-12-18-26 (77 units)
2-2-4-6-10-15-23-35-50 (147 units)
4-5-8-15-20-30-45-70-100 (297 units) all together 521 units x $1 = $521 bankroll. Good for 27 spins for any system on one dozen or column. The third leg you will not need often.
cps10 said that he is doing well with his ladder on ryan's system. Also fire fighters want to buy his ladder because is very secure.
Hermes
Quote from: hermes on October 21, 2008, 11:09:15 PM
OK guys I hope I get cps10 permission to place here the ladder:
1-1-2-4-5-8-12-18-26 (77 units)
2-2-4-6-10-15-23-35-50 (147 units)
4-5-8-15-20-30-45-70-100 (297 units) all together 521 units x $1 = $521 bankroll. Good for 27 spins for any system on one dozen or column. The third leg you will not need often.
cps10 said that he is doing well with his ladder on ryan's system. Also fire fighters want to buy his ladder because is very secure.
Hermes
Hello Hermes,
Thanks for the effort,special thanks to CPS10 for sharing as well.Looking at the 1st ladder,I think I am williing to take the risk at 77 units. As for ryan's system,are you refering to waiting for 2 x dozens to break then bet.As far as I know,that is how Ryan is playing. You mentioned that this progression is good for 1 dozen,how do we use it on 2 dozens,can you explain further,I am sure all of us wanna know to have the success that simon enjoy.
Thanks
Hi guys
First off thank you for ladder system, now we just need to find out how to use it on 2 dozens at the same time. CPS mate?
Secondly for clarity I thought I would explain how I play:
I play on RNG (will play live wheels when I play bigger amounts.) I play at 2 seperate casinos, going to start at my 3rd this weekend. One is Playtech and the other one Microgaming.
The spread is 0.1 -200 per bet which effectively gives you a spread of 0.1 - 3800 per dozen.
I start by depositing $100 at a casino. I'll then split my bankrolls according to Victor's moneymanagement system. I start betting at 10 cents and work my way up.
I play 6 step progression. Never gone above that. I wait for a streak against a dozen to be broken and then bet against it.
For example:
1st
2nd
2nd
3rd - Streak broken
1st - Bet and won
If I lose, I continue with the progression.
This is how I play it.
At the one casino I'm on $150 and the other one $125
also how do one play CPS10 ladder system?
Quote from: Vetkop on October 23, 2008, 11:47:39 AM
also how do one play CPS10 ladder system?
cps10!where are you?
Hi guys. I think I have wokred out a progression for this system. Will test tonight. Looking very good
Quote from: Vetkop on October 23, 2008, 01:48:50 PM
Hi guys. I think I have wokred out a progression for this system. Will test tonight. Looking very good
Please do share dear Vektop.
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use the 1/2/3 i came up with, but like vektop said wait for 4 misses first then play 1/3/9, or try 1/3 to be safer, i believe playing this way you will win more than 26 times before the thing goes to 9, im going to give it a go and see what happens, but dont use columns as they can go far longer without a hit due to the way they are layed out on the wheel, remember just use columns, ill keep this post updated with the results, also play simons dozen system the same way as this but wait for 2 dozens to miss and then track 4 misses instead of waiting for 3. these combined will make playing less boring
ryan bets always one dozen and always the same formation e.g. 1-2-3-1-2-3 and so on...but wait for 5 virtual failures before bet! If you want to use cps10' ladder for 2 dozens e.g. bet against last coming dozen, you bet the same amount 1-1-2-4-5 ... on both legs if lost, and if one wins reset that one to 1 and the other follow the progression until hits and than reset to 1. You bet the same progression separately on 2 dozens. One hits sooner and one later, but both hit sometimes.
Better option will be to bet the last and second coming dozen so you will never have to fear the sleeping one and you bet more on winners, not on losers.
Hermes
Hi guys
Here are 2 progressions I've used sucessfully so far
1 Bet Spend Total Win Bet Spend Total Win
1 2 2 1 5 10 10 5
3 6 8 1 20 40 50 10
10 20 28 2 70 140 190 20
32 64 92 4 230 460 650 40
70 140 232 -22
210 420 652 -22
2 Bet Spend Total Win Bet Spend Total Win
1 2 2 1 5 10 10 5
3 6 8 1 15 30 40 5
10 20 28 2 50 100 140 10
32 64 92 4 150 300 440 10
100 200 292 8
280 560 852 -12