This thread will be my last test of the G.U.T. I will begin with a $200.00 bankroll and again start with fifty-cent bets. Here is the goal:
1. To double the bankroll to $400 and go to a $1 bet.
2. To reach $1,000 betting nothing but $1 bets.
Time is not of the essence in this test. This is purely a test to decide one question: Does it work or does it not? During this test, I will not place other bets no matter how much I want to.
After what I have done with the G.U.T. and IF I can pump $200 up to $1,000, who can honestly say this does not work?
With each bet I make I will explain which crossing I bet and why. I will explain why I bet a certain crossing if there are two or more. If I jump, I will say why. This test is to make money and answer the burning question: Did winkel invent the "Grail"?
You people are going to get to know me very well!! I am going to lock the testing thread and open a companion thread for Q & A.
This is going to bore me to tears before it's over and I must guard against intentionally loosing so I can quit.
Sam
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
[/table]
The video is 10 minutes long. I got the date wrong. Should be ninth, not eighth.
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee98dcb61a1ee064 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee98dcb61a1ee064)
Smiley things all around........
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been $55.00
For those who want to study winkel, this is a pretty good video to watch. (10.44) It shows how things go bad and then get worse and how--just as winkel said--it would recover. It also shows how things can change for the better after the jump.
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee98d1b5101ee464 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee98d1b5101ee464)
Very short session due to rainy weather.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been $55.00
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/player/id=ee98d0bf1f13ed64 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/player/id=ee98d0bf1f13ed64)
This started out rough, but ended up in the black. My draw down was $39.00 or 78u
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been $55.00
The video is less than six minutes long.
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee98d0b41a16e664 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee98d0b41a16e664)
To anyone still alive.
This is the greatest draw down and recovery I've had yet. I had a phone call from one of my very few relatives and I had to take the call. I should have stopped the computer, but I didn't. That only cost me one mistake which would have been about 29u. Still not good to make mistakes.
You will see, if you take fifteen minutes to to watch my video, that things began looking up and went up from then on. This was a very tough trot on me, especially without coffee, and I think I messed up on a couple of my videos. But you will see me go down and recover.
I was sweating it, but I still got the faith!
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdfb21510e164 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdfb21510e164)
Sam
Well, gang, this has been the worst day of record. And, to top it off, Track4 quit on me! Just laid down and died! I figured it was an omen! So I lost all my gains and then some. Still I did not exceed my lowest point, so had Track4 not decided to take a break, I might have recovered.
This entire system may be just based on luck and nothing more. I'll guarantee, luck was not with me today.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
11.13.8.1,,,<76.50>,,,200.50
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdcbe151ce264 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdcbe151ce264)
OK, on the road to recovery.....
I must tell you I think part of my problem was my electronic mouse needed a new battery. I think that's why the Track4 quit and later my computer locked up. If it ain't one thing, it three others. Where's my coffee?? Oops!!
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
11.13.8.1,,,<76.50>,,,200.50
11.13.8.2,,,64,,,264.50
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdab8171de164 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdab8171de164)
Full recovery plus some profit in the same day. I'm a tired ol' coffee-less dude. I think Motion Box is screwed up, but I'll work on that tomorrow!
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
11.13.8.1,,,<76.50>,,,200.50
11.13.8.2,,,64,,,264.50
11.13.8.3,,,25.5,,,290
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdbb11e1ee364 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdbb11e1ee364)
Made two mistakes today; got punished for one and not the other. Had to quit as I put in wrong number.
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
11.13.8.1,,,<76.50>,,,200.50
11.13.8.2,,,64,,,264.50
11.13.8.3,,,25.5,,,290
11.14.8.1,,,21.5,,,311.50
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdbb71514e464 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fdbb71514e464)
All......
If anyone ever wanted to see why people think RNGs beat them, it is on this video with a live wheel. Had I been playing RNG, I would have sworn the machine was out to get me.
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
11.13.8.1,,,<76.50>,,,200.50
11.13.8.2,,,64,,,264.50
11.13.8.3,,,25.5,,,290
11.14.8.1,,,21.5,,,311.50
11.14.8.2,,,15.5,,,327
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fd8b1191de464 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fd8b1191de464)
Should anyone watch this video, my computer was totally buggy today and bothered me to no end. This only caused me one loss of about 20 or so units, so I can't gripe.
I went down today to $254.50 and recovered to show a $2.5 profit. Not much, but not a loss. I stuck with this trot for a specific reason: A challenge is forthcoming!
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
11.13.8.1,,,<76.50>,,,200.50
11.13.8.2,,,64,,,264.50
11.13.8.3,,,25.5,,,290
11.14.8.1,,,21.5,,,311.50
11.14.8.2,,,15.5,,,327
11.18.8.1,,,2.5,,,329.50
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
This video is 33 minutes long.
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fd8b5181ce064 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9fd8b5181ce064)
Yesterday and today I had a terrible time with my computer acting up and I could not get the movie made. Suffice it to say I went down to a low of $250.50 and back up to $351.50. This still does not exceed by largest drawdown.
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
11.13.8.1,,,<76.50>,,,200.50
11.13.8.2,,,64,,,264.50
11.13.8.3,,,25.5,,,290
11.14.8.1,,,21.5,,,311.50
11.14.8.2,,,15.5,,,327
11.18.8.1,,,2.5,,,329.50
11.19.8.1,,,22,,,351.50
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
[attachimg=#1]
Pretty good day. Approaching $400.00 and switch to one-dollar bets!
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
11.13.8.1,,,<76.50>,,,200.50
11.13.8.2,,,64,,,264.50
11.13.8.3,,,25.5,,,290
11.14.8.1,,,21.5,,,311.50
11.14.8.2,,,15.5,,,327
11.18.8.1,,,2.5,,,329.50
11.19.8.1,,,22,,,351.50
11.21.8.1,,,22.50,,,374
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9ddcb51f1ae764 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9ddcb51f1ae764)
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.9.8,,,0,,,201
11.9.8,,,37,,,238
11.9.8.2,,,16,,,254
11.10.8.1,,,6.5,,,260.50
11.11.8.1,,,8,,,268.50
11.11.8.2,,,8.5,,,277
11.13.8.1,,,<76.50>,,,200.50
11.13.8.2,,,64,,,264.50
11.13.8.3,,,25.5,,,290
11.14.8.1,,,21.5,,,311.50
11.14.8.2,,,15.5,,,327
11.18.8.1,,,2.5,,,329.50
11.19.8.1,,,22,,,351.50
11.21.8.1,,,22.50,,,374
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9cdab4191de064 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9cdab4191de064)
Goal #1 accomplished! From $201 to over $400 betting .50 as my unit. Now I move to dollars and stay until I hit $1,000. Even my family now thinks this is NOT luck! If I fail now, I'm in big trouble. My wife is re-decorating the house and looking my way.
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9cd5bf111dec64 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9cd5bf111dec64)
A very good trot today!! Very good indeed! I am learning, winkel, not to bet on multiple crossings and when to jump back. I am learning when the Track4 looks good and when it looks bad. You might say this thing runs in cycles and I'm slowly getting better at seeing the good cycles forming.
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9cd5b81818e764 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee9cd5b81818e764)
I know $12 isn't much (as my wife pointed out!), but I went down $102 and then recovered and made 12 units.
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee93d3b0161ded64 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee93d3b0161ded64)
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
11.24.8.2,,,62,,,554
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
People, it's not that hard!!
My all time high will always be in green.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
11.24.8.2,,,62,,,554
11.24.8.2,,,103,,,657
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u/$89.00
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u/$41.50
A great day!!
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
11.24.8.2,,,62,,,554
11.24.8.2,,,103,,,657
11.25.8.1,,,114,,,771
[/table]
Should I be fortunate/lucky enough to hit $800, I will start betting $2 bets.
[attachimg=#1]
My largest draw down to date has been 178u
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u @ .50 per unit.
Followed by the session from hell! >:D
I went down $180 and that made me pucker!! I did not make any real mistakes, but I made some calls that just didn't pan out. For two hours the numbers ran hot and cold; I was down 100 then down 80 then down 150. I got tired of the see-saw after four hours and quit at 71 down. I'm lucky to have done that!!
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
11.24.8.2,,,62,,,554
11.24.8.2,,,103,,,657
11.25.8.1,,,114,,,771
11.25.8.2,,,<71>,,,700
[/table]
Should I be fortunate/lucky enough to hit $800, I will start betting $2 bets.
[attachimg=#1]
My largest draw down to date has been 180u
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u @ .50 per unit.
You think the boogie man wasn't after me tonight!!??
He left his number on my screen!
[attachimg=#]
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
11.24.8.2,,,62,,,554
11.24.8.2,,,103,,,657
11.25.8.1,,,114,,,771
11.25.8.2,,,<71>,,,700
11.30.8.1,,,83,,,783
[/table]
My largest draw down to date has been 180u
The deepest I have gone into my $200 bankroll is 83u @ .50 per unit.
People
The new Starburst wheel at Bella Vegas is hell on the eyes!! It's very gold and you can't see the ball for the light reflection. Still, I made a small profit!
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
11.24.8.2,,,62,,,554
11.24.8.2,,,103,,,657
11.25.8.1,,,114,,,771
11.25.8.2,,,<71>,,,700
11.30.8.1,,,83,,,783
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
[/table]
Hi :)
A very good day for the two-catted one! Up $150 on bad bets and software! Seems the bets would not stay put, the dealer was not who it said or no dealer at all, as in the screen shot. Still, the G.U.T. prevailed!!
I am changing the rules for the better. I had hoped to begin $5 bets at $1,000, but I am going to wait until January 1st and build the bankroll a little more as well as the confidence. I am beginning to think it is not luck, but time will tell.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
11.24.8.2,,,62,,,554
11.24.8.2,,,103,,,657
11.25.8.1,,,114,,,771
11.25.8.2,,,<71>,,,700
11.30.8.1,,,83,,,783
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
[/table]
[attachimg=#]
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
11.24.8.2,,,62,,,554
11.24.8.2,,,103,,,657
11.25.8.1,,,114,,,771
11.25.8.2,,,<71>,,,700
11.30.8.1,,,83,,,783
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
12.3.8.1,,,85,,,1081
[/table]
I''m almost ready to say something!
Sam
Terrible trot. The numbers were running against me all the way.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
11.21.8.2,,,27.50,,,401.50
11.21.8.2,,,33,,,434.50
11.22.8.1,,,119,,,553
11.23.8,,,12,,,565
11.24.8.1,,,<61>,,,492
11.24.8.2,,,62,,,554
11.24.8.2,,,103,,,657
11.25.8.1,,,114,,,771
11.25.8.2,,,<71>,,,700
11.30.8.1,,,83,,,783
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
12.3.8.1,,,85,,,1081
12.5.8.1,,,<144>,,,937
[/table]
Had I gone to $5 bets, this would have been a $720 drop. That would have left me a $361 bankroll which would have put me back to .50 bets.
Sam
Climbing out of the hole.........
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
12.3.8.1,,,85,,,1081
12.5.8.1,,,<144>,,,937
12.8.8.1,,,62,,,975
[/table]
Climbing out of the hole.........
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
12.3.8.1,,,85,,,1081
12.5.8.1,,,<144>,,,937
12.8.8.1,,,62,,,975
12.9.8.1,,,91,,,1066
[/table]
Today's session hit crossings like you wouldn't believe. I knew it had to go downhill, so I left.
Sam
YIPPIEE!! OUT OF THE HOLE
Hey, winkel!!
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
12.3.8.1,,,85,,,1081
12.5.8.1,,,<144>,,,937
12.8.8.1,,,62,,,975
12.9.8.1,,,91,,,1066
12.9.8.2,,,51,,,1117
[/table]
Day started off bad with three loses 15, 14 and 14 units. The maintainence thing got me at spin 49 and I quit.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
12.3.8.1,,,85,,,1081
12.5.8.1,,,<144>,,,937
12.8.8.1,,,62,,,975
12.9.8.1,,,91,,,1066
12.9.8.2,,,51,,,1117
12.10.8.1,,,35,,,1152
[/table]
Today, for some reason, I made a number of stupid mistakes. Missed a crossing while making the bed! Accidentally bet on wrong crossing and it won. Bet on two crossings when three were present--the one I didn't bet on won.
Still won 61 units as the system recovered after jumping back. Speaking of which, I had such a nasty looking Track4 at spin 39, I jumped. The "ones" had hit way, way, way too many times.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
12.3.8.1,,,85,,,1081
12.5.8.1,,,<144>,,,937
12.8.8.1,,,62,,,975
12.9.8.1,,,91,,,1066
12.9.8.2,,,51,,,1117
12.10.8.1,,,35,,,1152
12.10.8.2,,,5,,,1157
12.11.8.1,,,61,,,1218
[/table]
Tough day!! Went down almost $100 and see-sawed around for a hundred spins. Quit when first up!
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
12.3.8.1,,,85,,,1081
12.5.8.1,,,<144>,,,937
12.8.8.1,,,62,,,975
12.9.8.1,,,91,,,1066
12.9.8.2,,,51,,,1117
12.10.8.1,,,35,,,1152
12.10.8.2,,,5,,,1157
12.11.8.1,,,61,,,1218
12.12.8.1,,,37,,,1245
[/table]
Ah, winkel, I wish you could have been there. I hit 'em wit me right; I hit 'em wit me left. I ain't proud--I kicked 'em when they was down!!
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
12.1.8.1,,,63,,,846
12.2.8.1,,,150,,,996
12.3.8.1,,,85,,,1081
12.5.8.1,,,<144>,,,937
12.8.8.1,,,62,,,975
12.9.8.1,,,91,,,1066
12.9.8.2,,,51,,,1117
12.10.8.1,,,35,,,1152
12.10.8.2,,,5,,,1157
12.11.8.1,,,61,,,1218
12.12.8.1,,,37,,,1245
12.12.8.1,,,115,,,1360
[/table]
Today I began making $2 bets and went nuts. I missed one crossing entirely and bet on two I shouldn't have. I got my nerves under control finally. I went down nearly $400 before I got it under control and came back up.
All bets are now $2
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
12.12.8.1,,,115,,,1360
12.13.8.1,,,<62>,,,1298
[/table]
Back to a new all-time high! I almost think it would be easier to go to $5 bets as I have to click twice for $2. Today was a tough day and I'm "lucky" to have an $8 profit, considering I was down almost $400.
Thanks winkel!!
All bets are now $2
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total
12.12.8.1,,,115,,,1360
12.13.8.1,,,<62>,,,1298
12.13.8.2,,,70,,,1368
[/table]
Don't know if I was too proud or if going to $2 bets just ruined my mind, but you can see what happened. I was so sick over this yesterday, I could not report it. I don't care about the money--really--I just want the thing to fly!
I've heard of people having loosing streaks--Dick Mitchell once had a doozy in horse racing--but I never have had one like this. I learned a lot from this experience, I think. If I find I did, I will start a new thread on it and tell it all. I've made notes.
One must wonder--If I had started this system on December 14, 2008, would I have stuck with it? I keep recalling winkel's graphs and how one dipped into the red and then recovered. Hopefully my bankroll will recover. The only bright spot--I didn't lose the whole shooting match. I kept hearing Ronjo--Why stand there and take a beating? I sat too long and was beaten too severely, but I had to know if the thing would pull out of a second $400 downturn.
As I've always said, I could just have been on a lucky streak. Perhaps I'll get on another.
To anyone playing this system or thinking of playing it with real money--read the chart!! Proceed at your own risk!!
Beginning 12.15.8, all bets are back to $1
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $664
12.12.8.1,,,115,,,1360
12.13.8.1,,,<62>,,,1298
12.13.8.2,,,70,,,1368
12.14.8.1,,,<464>,,,904
12.14.8.2,,,<92>,,,812
12.14.8.3,,,<126>,,,686
12.15.8.1,,,<106>,,,580
12.15.8.2,,,124,,,704
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704[/chart]
Guys...
This has been a very depressing time for me. I truly think the wheel change has made a difference. I do not see the same things I saw before in the Track4. I am having to re-learn the G.U.T. so to speak. I am now exiting at + or - $50 whether it's three bets or thirty. I have to re-define my goal: It is now to get back to that magical figure of $1368.
If I do some serious writing on this horrible downturn, would anyone be interested?
Sam
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $606
12.12.8.1,,,115,,,1360
12.13.8.1,,,<62>,,,1298
12.13.8.2,,,70,,,1368
12.14.8.1,,,<464>,,,904
12.14.8.2,,,<92>,,,812
12.14.8.3,,,<126>,,,686
12.15.8.1,,,<106>,,,580
12.15.8.2,,,124,,,704
12.20.8.1,,,58,,,762
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762[/chart]
One unit = $1
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $551
12.12.8.1,,,115,,,1360
12.13.8.1,,,<62>,,,1298
12.13.8.2,,,70,,,1368
12.14.8.1,,,<464>,,,904
12.14.8.2,,,<92>,,,812
12.14.8.3,,,<126>,,,686
12.15.8.1,,,<106>,,,580
12.15.8.2,,,124,,,704
12.20.8.1,,,58,,,762
12.20.8.2,,,55,,,817
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817[/chart]
Made two horrible mistakes because of having the news on. Had I played the G.U.T. instead of the T.V., I would have made my goal.
One unit = $1
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $527
12.12.8.1,,,115,,,1360
12.13.8.1,,,<62>,,,1298
12.13.8.2,,,70,,,1368
12.14.8.1,,,<464>,,,904
12.14.8.2,,,<92>,,,812
12.14.8.3,,,<126>,,,686
12.15.8.1,,,<106>,,,580
12.15.8.2,,,124,,,704
12.20.8.1,,,58,,,762
12.20.8.2,,,55,,,817
12.23.8.1,,,24,,,841
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841[/chart]
Once again I made about 30 units worth of mistakes while answering the phone. Why does the phone never ring when crossings are five spins away? Anyway, today was one of those days when I went down over a hundred units and then went on a winning streak and got back up. The hardwood layers are here now and I had to quit.
One unit = $1
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $517
12.12.8.1,,,115,,,1360
12.13.8.1,,,<62>,,,1298
12.13.8.2,,,70,,,1368
12.14.8.1,,,<464>,,,904
12.14.8.2,,,<92>,,,812
12.14.8.3,,,<126>,,,686
12.15.8.1,,,<106>,,,580
12.15.8.2,,,124,,,704
12.20.8.1,,,58,,,762
12.20.8.2,,,55,,,817
12.23.8.1,,,24,,,841
12.31.8.1,,,10,,,851
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851[/chart]
All.......
Missed two really good crossings while making New Year's Day salad for family. Hard to use knives and bet! Still had no draw down at all as every crossing except one 9-number crossing won.
One unit = $1 Draw = How far down I went in this session only.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Draw,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $391
1.1.9.1,,,126,,,0,,,977
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851.977[/chart]
Guts and G.U.T.s
Finally got half an hour to play!! Lord, what is that spinnin' thingy?? I done forgot!!
One unit = $1 Draw = How far down I went in this session only.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Draw,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $345
1.1.9.1,,,126,,,0,,,977
1.13.9.1,,,46,,,31,,,1023
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851.977,1023[/chart]
Almost not worth posting.
One unit = $1 Draw = How far down I went in this session only.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Draw,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $331
1.1.9.1,,,126,,,0,,,977
1.13.9.1,,,46,,,31,,,1023
1.14.9.1,,,14,,,65,,,1037
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851.977,1023,1037[/chart]
Cannot believe how "rusty" I've gotten with only 12 missed days.
One unit = $1 Draw = How far down I went in this session only.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Draw,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $319
1.1.9.1,,,126,,,0,,,977
1.13.9.1,,,46,,,31,,,1023
1.14.9.1,,,14,,,65,,,1037
1.15.9.1,,,12,,,95,,,1043
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851.977,1023,1037,1043[/chart]
On one occasion, I was not allowed to bet and it would have won. I feel this was due to the problem with my ethernet cable, not the casino itself. I made so many mistakes, bet on non-crossings, missed crossings and other things. My mind was not right because I could not log onto the Forum. I just knew you birds were talking about me behind my back
One unit = $1 Draw = How far down I went in this session only.
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Draw,,,Grand Total Money needed to recover: $271
1.1.9.1,,,126,,,0,,,977
1.13.9.1,,,46,,,31,,,1023
1.14.9.1,,,14,,,65,,,1037
1.15.9.1,,,12,,,95,,,1043
1.16.9.1,,,46,,,96,,,1089
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851.977,1023,1037,1043,1089[/chart]
I have not abandoned the G.U.T. I will begin to play soon. All this talk of U.S. players being banned from Bella Vegas has me worried.
One unit = $1
Draw = How far down I went in this session only.
B.W. Total = Before withdrawal
A.W. Total = After withdrawal
To date I have withdrawn $500.00
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Draw,,,B.W Total,,,A.W. Total Money needed to recover: $271
1.1.9.1,,,126,,,0,,,977
1.13.9.1,,,46,,,31,,,1023
1.14.9.1,,,14,,,65,,,1037
1.15.9.1,,,12,,,95,,,1043
1.16.9.1,,,46,,,96,,,1089,,,589
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851.977,1023,1037,1043,1089[/chart]
I'm back! Did you miss me? I will now continue my quest to hit the $2,000.00 mark and I may go to $5 and I may be happy at the $1 level.
One unit = $1
Draw = How far down I went in this session only.
B.W. Total = Before withdrawal
A.W. Total = After withdrawal
To date I have withdrawn $500.00
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Draw,,,B.W Total,,,A.W. Total Money needed to recover: $211
1.1.9.1,,,126,,,0,,,977
1.13.9.1,,,46,,,31,,,1023
1.14.9.1,,,14,,,65,,,1037
1.15.9.1,,,12,,,95,,,1043
1.16.9.1,,,46,,,96,,,1089,,,589
2.17.9.1,,,60,,,0,,,1149,,,649
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851.977,1023,1037,1043,1089,1149[/chart]
Good to have you back at 'er Sammy!
Knock em dead... or atleast poor.
MM
MM
Trust me, I was nervous after having been off for 32 or 33 days without a bet. (Addict??!! Who's an addict?) Very happy to see the exact same things I saw when last I played. Two dealers I've never seen spun me a winning session.
I am opening this thread for comments, but could we please limit them to the G.U.T.? Or compliments! :D 8)
Let's not forget, winkel is genius behind the G.U.T.
A TwoCat declaration: This thing works just too damn well not to have some basis in truth at its center.
Sam
Sam ... I have played the G.U.T. for 200 matchs on a live casino, stop at 50 hit, no Stoploss loss, stop in a winning +50, but unfortunately for me the results were not good.
I had a loss of about 2,000 pieces.
I will have to revise my work.
Hello
alexoo
Anytime anyone is interested, I will begin making the tutorial movies again.
I always appriciated the videos Sam.
MM
Hi Sam
Its nice to see you back and in the hot seat again!
Now go kick some ass :D
Regards
TSK
It feels like those of us who are studying GUT are doing so separately...
Unified is the most sourceful way to go... Who's with me? I know Sam is because he said so... But those of us who ARE willing to make the extra effort to bring it all together need to catch up somewhere and share experiences...
Sort of having a conference or something similar?
I have begun analyzing GUT in my section...
Please check my planned approach and comment, correct me or add something...
alarian
I am also testing and studing gut
but with the new gut cba from kfs it looks like gut is not getting out positive..
Naturally :D I'll check it out :thumbsup:
Does it handle advanced selection between 2 simulatenous opportunities in a crossing? Or just the basic...
16 15 6 will become
15 16 6
?
Sometimes it's more natural to bet that
16 15 6 will become
16 14 7
According to the Binomial Distribution
It is just basic.. but in theory it is working as it should
I think you're missing my point...
If you look at the theoretical Binomial Distribution and then at the chart you've derived from your numbers... The number that would make your chart fit the theoretical distribution the most is the one you should bet... That's where the balance is
This is not always the least hit group
I see... well we should make some rules when to bet some groups without dilemas
I guess... Working on it :D
Just touching base......
For some reason I have not been able to log onto Bella Vegas for the past two or three days. I also have trouble logging onto this forum from time to time.
I will resume posting my G.U.T. results as soon as possible.
Sam
Well, there I was, having a good time at last when they cut me off. Oh, well, I got back another 45 skins toward my all-time high.
Sam
One unit = $1
Draw = How far down I went in this session only.
B.W. Total = Before withdrawal
A.W. Total = After withdrawal
To date I have withdrawn $500.00
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Draw,,,B.W Total,,,A.W. Total Money needed to recover: $166
1.1.9.1,,,126,,,0,,,977
1.13.9.1,,,46,,,31,,,1023
1.14.9.1,,,14,,,65,,,1037
1.15.9.1,,,12,,,95,,,1043
1.16.9.1,,,46,,,96,,,1089,,,589
2.17.9.1,,,60,,,0,,,1149,,,649
2.21.9.1,,,45,,,2,,,1194,,,694
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851.977,1023,1037,1043,1089,1149,1194[/chart]
Today's second session was a rough one. Went down 133 units due to stupid errors and talking to people. I quit when I got back ahead.
One unit = $1
Draw = How far down I went in this session only.
B.W. Total = Before withdrawal
A.W. Total = After withdrawal
To date I have withdrawn $500.00
[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Draw,,,B.W Total,,,A.W. Total Money needed to recover: $148
1.1.9.1,,,126,,,0,,,977
1.13.9.1,,,46,,,31,,,1023
1.14.9.1,,,14,,,65,,,1037
1.15.9.1,,,12,,,95,,,1043
1.16.9.1,,,46,,,96,,,1089,,,589
2.17.9.1,,,60,,,0,,,1149,,,649
2.21.9.1,,,45,,,2,,,1194,,,694
2.21.9.2,,,18,,,133,,,1212,,,712
[/table]
[chart]201,238,254,261,269,277,201,265,290,312,327,330,352,374,402,435,553,565,492,554,657,771,700,783,
846,996,1081,937,975,1066,1117,1152,1157,1218,1245,1360,1298,1368,904,812,686,580,704,762,817,841,851.977,1023,1037,1043,1089,1149,1194,1212[/chart]
Hello TCS.
I wanted to know how you had set your game, that is if you had a stopwin, which crosses played, how many shots, etc..
Unfortunately, the video jumps and they are not very clear for me.
Hello
alex00
alex00
The video jumps because I am pausing and re-starting it to keep it short. I made one somewhere that is a complete tutorial with no stops and lots of explanation. I'll try to find it.
I tried a stoploss of 50u per session and that was too small. You can go down 50 pretty easily. I now stick around until about 200 losses. Usually at around 150 things turn. Lots of jumping back for new numbers. That's the key. Staying beyond spin 50 is dangerous, but it is sometimes profitable depending on what crossings are left or are soon to appear. The numbers never fall the same way, so each trot is a new experience.
Sam
G.U.T. Watchers.....
Since I could not get on the Bella Vegas live wheel, I gave the RNG a shot. Bad idea! RNGs may be as honest as the day is long, but they truly are not for me. The numbers did not fall as expected. The Track4 looked very strange compared to what I'm used to seeing.
I won't go into how much I lost. Rather bad, even if I do say so myself. I will continue this thread when I have clawed my way back to my last level before the RNG.
Sam
OUCHIE!!!!!!!
I take back what I said about you having the RNG Grail then Sam
Sorry to here about the loss mate
TSK
Hi TCS,
I hope the loss is not that big.
As I know you, you saved the numbers spun. Pls sent them to me or post them as attachement.
I will try to make a tutorial with that numbers.
BTW: Is droidman still around? could we ask him to add the following to the tracker:
instead of always jumping back to the last 20 spins with "-1"
change to
jump back in the following way:
if I put in "-13" he just cuts off the first 13 spins
if I put in "-25" he just cuts off the first 25 spins
so that we can varify the length of the jump?
range: "-13" to "-30"
br
winkel
TSK
Yep, the ol' RNG got me again! I'll never know what happened.
winkel
I'll attach a RAR file of the spins. The really bad ones were the last two or the latest dates.
Sam
Hi Sam,
sorry I can´t open ".rar" only ".zip" files.
br
winkel
OK
Thank You
I will open a new thread and show what effects jumpings do
br
winkel
If anyone cares...........
I have not given up on the G.U.T. I have made some stupid decisions which put me even further into the hole. I have had some family issues to deal with which has kept me from being focused. Enough excuses........
I still question whether or not the Starburst wheel plays the same as the one they had before. I still wonder why they got rid of that one. Do casinos do that from time to time? Change wheels? If they do, it will verify something Gamlet once said: A system that works on one wheel may not on another. (Something like that.) The casino changes wheels to throw off the players.
Soon the USA will be on-line everywhere and I see the wheel at IBC and Joyland looks much like the one Bella Vegas used to have. When I said this was the last test of the G.U.T., I had no idea they would switch wheels on me. So, if I fail on this wheel---and I will let you know that---I will continue the test next year or whenever on another wheel.
I have not lost the faith.
Sam
Good luck, Sam!! :thumbsup:
Guys
Due to personal--not financial--reasons I am going to have to put the G.U.T. study on hold for a time. There is something wrong with me I have never experienced while gambling in all my life. I have lost self-control. It's almost like I have a hell-bent desire to loose. I seem to find ways to be in the other room when a crossing is due.
I think it is time for me to delve more into the psychological aspects of gambling to see what this monkey on my back is and how to get him off.
If I had to answer the question, "Was this test a success or failure?" I would have to answer "failure" as I did loose the original $200. I do not feel the fault lies with the G.U.T. When I was playing it correctly, I won. I can no longer--for some unknown reason--play it correctly.
I'll be back.......
Sam
Hey Sam,
Totally understand where your coming from. It's happend to me a many a times. Finally I told myself (and the wife), that I have an alotted time to play, and nothing else happens during that time. Removes all the distractions that cause those stupid losses.
Best of luck bud,
Matt
That´s the problem with a Holy Grail : You get that feeling of being unbeatable!
Hi TCS,
you said, that you made over 500 coming from 63. Did you waste that all?
I am convinced by that game, but I don´t play it day by day. Just when I´m feeling nice and there is nothing else on my mind than the wisch of having some fun.
I don´t put me in that need to "earn" some extra money. It is just fun, like playing a game ov chess or any card-game.
best wishes for you and many thaks for testing this game.
br
winkel
Hi Sam
sorry to hear about that.
Put your feet up and take a while.Youll know if and when its time
regards
TSK
winkel
Yes, I lost it. I began playing a Martingale.
I am beginning to understand what an alcoholic feels and goes through. I simply could not control myself. It was as if another being just inhabited my mind and took away my will.
I truly don't understand it.
The loss was tiny compared to what the stock market has done to me, so I'm not worried. Just a lot of work down the drain.
Sam
Hey Sammy ;)
Hope you get your mojo & discipline back soon..... :thumbsup:
Hi Sam.
Mate I have known you for some time now.
And the one good Positive that comes out of this every time it happens is that You recognise when you get to this position and then You STOP.
I am here for You Brother....
Put a Phone number in My Email anytime Sam and I will ring straight away.
Your Mate .........Lanky
yes I have had same feeling too sam you try to push it might have had few end on end losses then something else takes over
I got get It back as fast as I can thats sort of stuff It is a very uneasy feeling from deep inside
You guys are great!
I did the same thing with the VLS Lw Methodology. There has to be a way around this. R. D. Ellison says that after years of gambling, he still fights it.
I'm thinking maybe the problem is that it's never cured--like alcoholism. Every time you go to gamble, you have to remind yourself that the Devil can take you over at any minute.
An on-going war! Could that be the answer?
Sam
QuoteEvery time you go to gamble, you have to remind yourself that the Devil can take you over at any minute.
Yes Sam, that´s the point.
Therefore I always play only with 1ct or 10ct.-bets.
If the devil comes over me, there s only 20 euros lost.
I start only with a bankroll of 20 euros.
when I´m up twice or three times this starting-BR I let the devil out and stop that "drinking-session" when I´m back down to 20 euros.
control that guy by giving him room to get excited. >:D
There he is again >:D
all the best
winkel
I Agree with you guys. It make good profit. But you need to know when to get out.
Progression sucks with G.U.T as when i tested with 8K spins...I got 16...losing streaks....hehe
So please D.O. N.O.T. U.S.E. P.R.O.G.R.E.S.S.I.O.N. for G.U.T. its a K.I.L.L.E.R.
a "problem" gambler is someone who is addicted to losing. Now please give me a minute to explain, stop your internal dialog right now! and listen.
Humans get addicted to their emotional state, whether you perceive this to be good or bad, does not matter. The same parts of your brain are active when you are addicted to anything, whether it be cocaine, stamp collecting, OCD, any addictive behavior. The neural peptide chemicals released from your brain (aka emotions) flood the entire body and a reaction is felt, this goes for any emotional state, love, hate, envy, the list goes on and on.
So, to the point. A "problem" gambler is a person who (most of them) is addicted to the state of losing. The emotional state of losing is very intense, and they are addicted to it. As far as THEY perceive, they want to win, but their body craves to lose, to get that next "high".
I am currently helping a friend with this issue. I keep telling him, I do not want him to give up gambling (because he is actually quite good at it, assuming I am there to pull him away when he has a good profit). He like many others, are addicted to losing. So his "problem" is his addiction to losing, NOT gambling. So basically, I am getting him to play under my supervision and making him walk away every time as a winner. My theory is that eventually, he will break his addiction to losing and become addicted to winning. Since he is very good at getting profit in a short period, if he is addicted to winning, the feeling he will get when he is in profit will create an emotional state of well being and he will actually WANT to walk away a winner.
Time will tell....
@ Sam, mate, remember, its not gambling that's the problem, its your own emotions.... get addicted to the right ones ;)
Poit
Brother, I appreciate the time it took to write that and the time it took to learn it. I will study long and hard on it.
Thanks for the help.
TwoCat
Now..........
I've said I've been making E5.00 in about 500 to 600 spins. Well, here's one that went five times that amount and took me down E50. My bankroll was such that E50 did not scare me, but had I been playing for dimes instead of pennies, I would have wiped out. Dimes, while making E50 instead of E5, would require a huge bankroll.
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your welcome mate... could you PM the program you used to make that graph?
Quoteremember, its not gambling that's the problem, its your own emotions.... get addicted to the right ones
Terrific Poit ...It was a pleasure to read that Gem My Friend.
Good OnYa Mate.
Lanky.
:) glade to be of assistance.
poit
That graph is part of a betting robot I am testing. It is protected against copying. You might want to read the first post in this thread.
Sam
Quoteremember, its not gambling that's the problem, its your own emotions.... get addicted to the right ones
It's like getting addicted to eating healthy food and working out, instead of eating McDonalds and watching TV.
I like your theory Poit :thumbsup:
BR
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