Hello all members.
Our team has developed a winning system based on WHEEL SIGNATURE BIAS which gives a competitive edge to the player using past spin data on the wheel he/she is playing. Our new website just put up here: nolinks://nolinks.wheelclockers.com
We are looking for players to share their past spin data with us from each wheel they play and in return you will get a custom bet strategy for the wheel including hot zones, cold zones, top positive numbers, and recommended bet strategy.
This system is for the player who is tired of all the bullcrap systems out there. Use a system that is based on the physical characteristics of the wheel you play, not some theoretical mumbo jumbo.
We challenge any other system user to beat this strategy. We invite all of you to send in data from the wheels you have been playing to winning@wheelclockers.com
Your spin data will NOT be released to any one else on your wheel. On wheels where there are several players submitting data, we carefully screen the data to prevent duplicate entries.
Comments are welcome.
Hi mate,
Free = Free, like 100% free = No hidden costs, no hidden "We got you the best numbers to play, just checkout and we will send them to you", right? :)
Question:
- Do you have a "safety break". I.e. if the wheel is maintained (balanced) or some parts are replaced and the player just don't notice but the physical conditions change, do you offer a continous free update so the player doesn't lose it all chasing a "physical bias edge" that is already gone?
Just curious mate.
In my case, I like it more portable and don't want to rely on the wheel not being properly maintained/balanced to win.
I guess you agree that normal fluctuations do occur in regular level conditions where a set of numbers simply gets behind in a sample and another gets ahead without a particular physical bias reason. What is your position regarding this matter? Can you really tell the difference and if so, what spin sample do you need to tell the wheel is actually biased?
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TOTALLY FREE - we will never ask you for money. No hidden deal. So selling anything.
Send in spin data and get the results.
Info for you to submit:
Casino name& location, date of play, wheel # ( as the casino has assigned on the plaque next to the money drop on top or on the side of the table), and the hit numbers in sequence you logged them in. If you have already logged these numbers into a grand summary by number, we can accept this output as well. You can send the numbers in by listing them on the email or if you have them in a spreadsheet or listing document we can accept that form as well.
This system has been tested and has proven itself over and over.
Send in your wheel data and get the free output.
Thanks for the prompt reply Tiger999.
The way I can see you guys can use the data is to have a whole community of players who submit their numbers then once you spot a bias wheel from a person's data, just go there and launch an "attack". The casino gotta love it! New players from nowhere playing bias numbers [smiley=lolk.gif]
First of all, the player should have an "ID" of the wheel to be sure each time he comes back the wheel is the same one as before. ID by noting any physical marks, nicks, streaks, stains, unique burl patterns, or marks on the spindle, ball track, rim or case, and note the clockface position of these items.
Maintenance of cleaning, lubricating and oiling, even when they take the spindle out, will not alter the physical bias. It is rare for a wheel spindle to be actually replaced: they just do not wear out like that.
Some casinos have a practice of rotating the wheel at the table 90 degrees or so, after some months in an attempt to "even out" the wear on the ball track. Again, doubtful this has any significant effect either.
More common is the practice of physically moving a wheel by swapping it with one at another table. Some casinos do this every 3 months, others never do it, some do it if they feel they are under attack by a "team". Having a physical "ID" of your wheel is critical to knowing where the wheel is and getting the correct data associated with it.
Realistically, several thousand spins are needed to get the best output. But we have seen wheels begin to show a significant signature after as little as 500 spins. We have wheels clocked with over 50,000 verified spins. Research in this method has been ongoing by our team for some time.
You have hit it on the head, mate.
If the player's wheel data shows a significant enough bias, and the player invites us to play his wheel, we can arrange a game plan where we can come to town, put together an attack plan with the player, and use our expertise to play with him. If the player does not wish to use his own bankroll, we will use ours and give a share of the profits.
However, "attacking" a casino big time like in the movies and boasting about what is going on leads to a very short ride and only one outcome: the wheel goes in the trash and a new wheel is purchased. Not the outcome you want to have if you want to come back and play another day. This kind of cowboy style does none of us any good. We never kill the goose that lays the golden egg.
Are you in the US?
yes, but we are working with wheels all over the world, so no casino is out of bounds.
QuoteFrom Tiger999>>This system is for the player who is tired of all the bullcrap systems out there. Use a system that is based on the physical characteristics of the wheel you play, not some theoretical mumbo jumbo.
We challenge any other system user to beat this strategy. We invite all of you to send in data from the wheels you have been playing to winning@wheelclockers.com
Now Look Mate I know A fair Bit about what you are doing Ok.
But we won't walk that Dog here mate.
The Problem is That you as a VB & Bias Player....Think that it is the Holy Grail...
and I agree It does work.But Let us Take the above Quote by You.
That is Totally False & Misleading .Why ? because its Your way Or no way else that people can Win.
You don't Give us other Type of Players one bit of Respect whatsoever.
Your Saying That if a wheel is Bias it will hit in a certain Area More Often then expected.
[highlight]GEES REALLY !!??[/highlight]
Here is a Revelation for You VB & Bias Guys.
If we are Playing on those wheels Then the VERY SAME THING THAT ALLOWS YOU TO WIN.
[highlight]ALLOWS US TO WIN MORE OFTEN AS WELL.[/highlight]
And To those People that would have trouble identifying a wheel as was descibed by Tiger999 in a previou post.
No Problems....I will Fix That for You.
Just lean across the Wheel with a Sharp object & Carve Your Initials in the bloody thing.Lanky
"by noting any physical marks, nicks, streaks, stains, unique burl patterns, or marks on the spindle, ball track, rim or case, and note the clockface position of these items." --- The wheel can be balanced (corrected) and still have these marks. Also, can I send you RNG numbers? If no, what if I send them anyways and lie. Will you tell the difference? Ken
QuoteHere is a Revelation for You VB & Bias Guys.
If we are Playing on those wheels Then the VERY SAME THING THAT ALLOWS YOU TO WIN.
ALLOWS US TO WIN MORE OFTEN AS WELL.
Unfortunately, No it won't. [smiley=embarassed.gif]
Hi Herb
I have no Idea What You are On Herb.
But whatever it is I want Some.
How can A wheel be bias & not favour me if I am playing It. ??????
That's Just Total Bullshit Mate.
Tell Me Something Do You VB & Bias Guys get up in the Morning & smack yourselves in the Forehead whith a Piss Pot and Chant.
No Other Way Then The Way We Play ????.
Your Friend
Lanky
QuoteTell Me Something Do You VB & Bias Guys get up in the Morning & smack yourselves in the Forehead whith a Piss Pot and Chant.
Lanky,
No, my wife just slaps me in the head and then calls me names. lol. [smiley=grin.gif]
It depends on "how" you're playing a wheel. If it was simple, then everyone would be making money on it.
-Herb.
QuoteIt depends on "how" you're playing a wheel.
Exactly my Mate.
That's the point I was Trying to get across.
QuoteNo, my wife just slaps me in the head and then calls me names. lol.
Hahahahah Lmao @ Herb.
Good On Ya Mate
Lanky
"How can A wheel be bias & not favour me if I am playing It." ---- Well.......that is possible if you did not know it was bias. Depending on your method, you could be betting largely on the non-bias numbers and not know it. Dont get me wrong, overall I think bias is a joke and a WASTE of time searching for it. Ken
Ken,
I think you should stick to your current play methods. [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
No joking, really? [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Hi Lanky my mate,
You know I mostly play VB flat betting but I admit to playing mathematical methods with mild progression in between VB play whenever the occasion arises,but if I have a VB signal I will choose the VB over the mathematical method at all times,and when there is no VB I play the methematical route with short games as it will not last.
In my experience the VB renders better profits with less risk than the mathematical route and I can play longer.
As far as a bias player like Herb I cannot comment accurately, as to find a bias you would need several hundred thousand spins to do so and I think it is possible to find a bias as the wheels are not that perfect as we think,I used to argue that they were in the past but I have learned from the inside that sometimes the casinos are slow on the uptake in maintaining these wheels and there is a possible flaw in the manufacture of the wheel sometimes,and a pro bias wheel player would have made his profit by the time its noticed.
And just to finish off VB also does not last but it would be a better choice for me than playing the mathematical route.
And bias play would work if you tracked a wheel in the same way the casino does with the right software which could detect just a slight edge of 3% is all you need to make a substantial profit,so in other words if I was a bias player I would look at a wheel as though I was the casino who owned it and be looking for the flaws which would make it bias,so now I need to use all the tactics that the casino uses to spot these things such as their software and a dealer who is not doing what he/she is supposed to do which tells them exactly what they need to know,with all this yes bias would work for sure.
As for hitting my head with a pee pot,I think that would be bloody sore if you asked me. LMAO@Lanky
This is just my humble opion.
Ronjo.
the wheel is just a tool to creat random, other than that the wheel is useless, just a fancy peace of garbage. [smiley=beer.gif]
Here we go again yap,yap,yap,yap-zzzzzzzzzzzyaaaawnn [smiley=lolk.gif]
Ronjo.
So what are all of you doing with your recorded spin data from the wheels you are playing? Surely you are keeping stat records for yourself? any comment on how you are using your own play stats to further your own system or test its results?
:) Hey Tiger, (Jeez that sounded gay!...Nothing against gay but I'm straight!
good thing your name wasn't Sailor...even worse!)
Just kiddin around Tiger. I use all my previous results when testing my systems, theories, other's systems, methods etc. etc. etc.
I like to revisit say 3 months ago and see how those results compare with say a weekend ago's results using the same system or method. Very seldom do I get the same kind of results which tells me basically that the wheel cannot be biased. I realize though that it takes a helluva amount of spins to determine whether a wheel is bias or not. Interesting idea though. Tell me Lanky what do we have to loose by posting some results? If they give me feedback, I'll try it and then if it works, great, if it doesn't, no harm done. (virtual play) Then again, maybe they want the casino name so that they can contact them and give them stats and charge them to "fix" the wheel or whatever or like you say play it themselves. I don't know. I tell ya what Tiger, if I can send ya the numbers of a wheel without sending the casino's name or wheel number...deal, I'll try it! No? Well in that case I'll stick to those systems you told me doesn't work. Ask Lanky, he also lost thousands...check his "big thank you post" with these loosing systems, hehehehehe.
Cheers! [smiley=beer.gif]
Jakkalsdraai
Ok fine. send in your prior spin data without the casino name or wheel number , but do include the dates of play of each session. By not giving me the casino and wheel #, you are missing out on possible prior data from that same wheel already in our database that would be added to your stats to give a better picture.
I do not work for any casino or casino "friendly" group, I am on the "players" side 100% and do not share this data with anyone. As a statistician at heart, it is about the numbers, and the more numbers the better.
You can send in the numbers in any file format you keep them in, but an excel file, with the sequential numbers hit during play listed down one column is the easiest to import.
You can send me a private message at this forum or email directly to winning@wheelclockers.com
Give a day or 3 and I'll send ya some.
Cheers
Jakkalsdraai