i have done over over 6,000 spins tested for this system and i will share all when i finally start the system for real money.
it averages out at 0.55p per spin on £1 starting stake it does have a progression and you will need £1710 to start or £171 with 10p starting stake. o.k thanks
im finking of doing 30 mins on dublin bet right now ill will share the results
im up £29 up to now will stop at 40 profit and show then will hopefuly do alot more.
Interesting Matt, Good Luck ;)
Yes good luck [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
very good luck to you :)
im ready for the new year everyone and will be starting the system with 1p stakes so ill need £17.10p i made a mistake with the first message on this trhread it is average of 2.5/1 per hour 1 min spins. testing 31 starting bets after 1,000 spins i was on £2,240 profit i did the prediction for the 6,000 mark to be on £12,000 profit it endid up on £13,000+ profit without a single loss..
get money on 10th of jan so will start then.
4 hours a day for 2 weeks then if im not on £171 by then ill add to it and do the 10p minimum bets.
will then take me another 2-3 weeks to get to the £1,710 needed for the £1 bets.
i need some help form you guys tho lol
a good 1p roulette site
a good 10p minimum bet site
and a £1 i think will be smart live casino..
wish me luck everyone.
for i would give a clue has anyone on all data got ever seen a run of 11 or more times without landing 9 eva side of the last number 10 away is on the over side of the table so 11 times landing more than 9 eva side of the last number i havnt seen this in 10,000 + spins so will be good to try see a time......
97% chance of it coming out with the 6th go cheerrs
any ideas or help i will need whatever i will be great full.
FROM MATT JONO
Hi mattjono
I play at joyland casino.They have a 1p bet and its a minimum 10p spread so should suit your needs ok.
Good luck
TSK
Hi Matt thanks for your post and good luck .People say Bet Voyager casino is honest and allow 1 cent bets when playing in euros Matt please do tell us more and stay with thread Thanks Colin
more stats from my testing
you have a
55% chance of winning bet 1
86% chance of winning bet 2
92% chance of winning bet 3
96% 4
99% 5
1% last bet
0% a loss
thats from 10,000 spins
cheers
it also averages out at 1 win every 10 spins
i will go on dublin bet now and get 1 win within 10 spins 15.30pm
i have attached the session on dublin bet i was using 50p minimum bets and i won £8.50p
it was my first bet with a 55% chance of coming out
i will expain all when making real money thanks all.
MATTJONO
32Vegas also have .01 bets and .10 minimum.
Good luck :)
i have done 1,000 spins in the last two weeks using the system :o using a rng roulette because i have plenty of testing on live any way i was recording on excel print screening every now and again and had the profit in a graph after 100 spins it made £254 so i predicted i would make £2500 of 1000 spins it made £2,660
mattjono
Sounds good Matt :)
Keep up the good work [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Sounds good Matt
Keep up the good work ;)
here to explain al tonight i havnt started the this system for real money but i wil do i stil havnt seen a loss in over 10,000 spins
and would like to share all to see how everyone one else finds it. try my best to explian it pritty simple whe you get the hang of it.
you need £1,710 to start. and will make average £200 per hour.
wait for the ball to land 10 or more away from the last number or the second to last number 3 times in a row.
example
23,36,3,12,27,3,24
that will look like this when recording
hit
wait
hit
wait
wait
wait
bet here £1 win 17
bet £2 win 15
£5 win 28
£10 win 18
£22 win 32
£50 win 90
this i have never seen it go past the progression but i know ryan 08 has seen this lose once.
i would say if anyone does want to start this then put £17.10 on a 1p min bet casino and make £2 per hour average.
remember you need to look at two things at once the last number
and the second to last number
spun l.n 2ndl.n
36 x x
7
22
18 x x
13 wait
27 x wait
12 wait wait
27 wait x bet won
3 wait x
35 x bet won
any questions lol
matt jono
you say that ryan has seen this lose.
how many spins has he tested?
also - can i confirm way of playing.
you get numbers
a,b,c,d,e. you wait until say f,g,h are more than 9 away from either the last one or the second to last one.
presumably if f,g,h is 9 away from last number, you play the last number and 9 either side. if i loses, then you play that and 9 either side with £2 instead of £1. And so on until a win.
presumably if f,g,h is 9 away from second last number - then you play the second last number or g and the 9 either side of it. if i loses - then 2 away would be h since i is the last number so you play h and 9 either side with £2.
if anyone fancyed testing this on a r.n.g or live then you should have a try now i say that if you do 30 spins using the progression shown you will make you will make mbetween + 50-150 units try for yourself everyone interested.
use microsoft excel and get a wheel to look at make it easier to find the waits then bets
matt jono
ryan08 said he did see this happen on a live wheel when he was testing my 7 eva side system so would like to find out whever or not because he was winning using the 7eva side system did the casino clock on and say when he is near the end of the progression we will aim for the opposide side from the 7 eva side numbers he was backing for as many as the dealer can try and aim for the opp side.
hope you get me because i believe they do alot of stuff like that. but then again i smoke the cannabis it could have lost randomly but i have never seen a loss so not 100% anyway hope you have a try with this its fun when you get used to it and we could even make it better thanks all
mattjono
Matt I thank you and wish you a healthy weathy and happy 09 to you and all on board .Colin@ N.Ireland
cheers colin glad ur on board hope to see how much you make of 30 spins and even more if you want to try see it lose
mattjono
Sorry Matt, I'm struggling a bit here.
Can you give another example but this time give us one where the system fails.
It would just make it easier to get If i could see all of the progression and all of the bets made.
Then I can give you some numbers on the maths.
Oh! and when you say 9 either side, you do mean geographically on the wheel don t you?????
the last number
36
3 (more than 9 eva side of 36)
27 (more than 9 eva side of 3)
35 (more than 9 eva side of 27) next we bet 9 eva side of 35 and start the progression
or
2nd to last number
35
32
8 (more than 9 eva side of 35)
11 (more than 9 eva side of 32)
15 (more than 9 eva side of next we bet 9 eva side of 11 and start the progression
hope this helps
we are playing to things at once waiting for lets say heads/tails/heads betting headsnow and if lands on tails betting tailes next bet
sorry this should explain
i have been testing this with spins and done 3 days of hamburg spins.
one won every time.
the other two has 1 loser. ouch.
i am not the best at expaining my system hope you did the system corectly.
so did it go 10 or more times without landing 9 eva side of the last number thats what a loss is
cheeres
mattjono
Quote from: trylobit on January 04, 2009, 08:51:32 PM
gingermolly,
here are spins from todays joyland:
1
9
29
17
18
29
17
9
18
32
21
27
32
23
22
13
4
24
9
21
36
16
17
7
11
27
26
2
24
20
12
1
35
27
24
16
10
11
5
36
0
15
30
32
10
23
13
31
11
10
32
0
24
17
why won't you go this session and show as how it works with your comments (decisions you make to bet or not to bet).
best regards.
tryl.
54 spins i gess £100 minumum
spun l.n 2nd l.n
1
9 x
29 x x
17
18 x
29 x
17
9 x
18 x wait
32 x w
21 x w
27 x bet1won+17 is 9eva side of 32 (2nd.ln)
32 x x
23 wait x
22 w
13 w x
4 bet1won+17
24 x
9 x wait
21 wait
36 x wait
16 x bet1 lost
17 wait bet2 won+15
7 wait
11 wait x
27 bet1won needs continuing
26
2
24
20
12
1
35
27
24
16
10
11
5
36
0
15
30
32
10
23
13
31
11
10
32
0
24
17
l.n 2nd l.n
26 x
2 x wait
24 wait
20 x wait
12 x bet1lost
1 wait bet2won+15
35 wait x
27 wait wait
24 bet1 won+17 wait
16 x wait
10 x bet1won+17
11 x x
5 x x
36 x x
0 wait
15 x wait
30 wait wait
32 wait bet1 won+17
10 wait x
23 bet1 won+17
13 x x
31 x
11 x
10 x x
32 wait
0 x wait
24 wait
17 bet1 won+17
no joke or lie i was bob on it made +100 exactly
mattjono
Hi Matt, do like the look of this on a hit and run basis. I don't suppose you have a chart of the 9 numbers either side to bet before I start my own?
Regards
Clint
Hi, Clint, I ve made one some time ago, when I was spinning around with some ideas.
It is a simple excel sheet (with no function) Numbers are from the European (sinhle Zero) wheel .
I ve made 2 different lists :
The lefts list( Nebennummern9links9rechts- Kessel ) represent the 9 numbers left and right of the last spun number of the wheel
The right list (Nebennummern9links9rechts- Tableau ) represent the 9 numbers left and right of the last spun number of the table.
I hope there is no error in the list.
Best regards
kawa4711
You're a star Kawa, saved me some valuable time there.
Many thanks
Clint :thumbsup:
KAWA were you joking when you said you had the nums right/ left I am afraid the do not open .Colin
Colin, only look at the first list, not the second.
Regards
Clint
@Clint, I am happy, that you can use the list.
I played this evening by using it this way:
Waiting for a non hit for 3 consecutive spins of the last number Par. ex:
36
7
23
35
no hits of number and neighbours
then playing :
35 0 2 3 4 7 9 12 14 15 18 19 21 22 26 28 29 31 32
next number,which was spun: 0 , this was a hit.
I play the table neighbours too, after 3 non hits, I play the number and neighbours:
par ex: 35- 21-8-22 = 3 non hits, the I play: 22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31, 21,20,19,18,17,16,15,14,13, next number was 21-
a hit in the first run.
@Colin:
I enclose a new Excel sheet with only the wheel based numbers, so its better to use.
Great thanks :thumbsup: to MATTJONO for sharing this excellent idea
Best regards
kawa4711
Quote from: kawa4711 on January 05, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
@Clint, I am happy, that you can use the list.
I played this evening by using it this way:
Waiting for a non hit for 3 consecutive spins of the last number Par. ex:
36
7
23
35
no hits of number and neighbours
then playing :
35 0 2 3 4 7 9 12 14 15 18 19 21 22 26 28 29 31 32
next number,which was spun: 0 , this was a hit.
I play the table neighbours too, after 3 non hits, I play the number and neighbours:
par ex: 35- 21-8-22 = 3 non hits, the I play: 22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31, 21,20,19,18,17,16,15,14,13, next number was 21-
a hit in the first run.
@Colin:
I enclose a new Excel sheet with only the wheel based numbers, so its better to use.
Great thanks :thumbsup: to MATTJONO for sharing this excellent idea
Best regards
kawa4711
kawa ye you are playing this perfectly you wait for 3 then bet remember using this sytem also works with the second to last number and microsoft excel helps alot.
the only eveidence i need from us all testing is the odds of losing because i think the odds of losing on this is around the same odds of us seeing any even chance red/black odd/even high/low i would say a run of 16reds would be the same odds of the ball not hitting 9 eva side of the last number 11 times..
thats my view anyway the reds and blacks odds evens high lows are scatterd around the wheel for a reson just to rig us off..
mattjono
ow and you will find that the percentages i have shown earlier on in the forum are practickly bob on
my tips from testing so you wont have to go far in the progression and even lose
if you have to go past to the 4th 5th or 6th bet in the progression after you get the win leave the wheel and call it a session ended you will be in profit but just safer to leave the table after a long stage in the progression as this dealer spinning the ball could be negative for us.
and
when i have seen the progression go to the last bet it has tended to land 10 eva side of the last number 3 or 4 times thats one away from the 9eva side we are covering so if you see it land on the 10th number away from the last number 2 times in the first 4 steps of progression the quit there not to say it will lose just to be safe
mattjono
I gave this system a roll and I like it very much. Can go a long time without coming into a betting situation some times, but it has a great win ratio :) Thank you for sharing!
Question: Do you include the the numbers you are "tracking". For example if you are waiting for betting on the 9eva numbers of 36, do you include the number 36 when placing a bet?
Hello,
I have tested a few thousand spins stopping after four losses (10 units). So far it is very good. Only once it went to the seventh step.
Has anyone tested this extensively?
Insider
Upon further play, forget what I just wrote!
It looses whether it is with a four or six step progression.
Insidebet