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Title: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: knabe82 on December 27, 2008, 05:15:31 PM
Hi Guys,

        Anyone of you guys tried out this system before as per the title.

E.g. last 18 numbers that have just appeared which are not repeat. If repeat we wait until all the 18 numbers collected are independent. Then we flat bet. Until profit shown.
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: winkel on December 27, 2008, 06:03:25 PM
18 spins without any repeat?

Nice idea if you wanna bet once a year.

Not nice if you lose that bet.

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winkel
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 27, 2008, 08:14:53 PM
Slippery slope.  Where are the tests?
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: ryan08 on December 27, 2008, 09:41:09 PM
i think he means 18 independant numbers rather than waiting for the 18 last numbers not to have a repeat in them, and it will work better than the GUT
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: VLSroulette on December 28, 2008, 01:43:58 AM
Quotelast 18 numbers that have just appeared which are not repeat

Yes, dear friends, I think this is intended to be UNIQUE numbers.
i.e. in 18 consecutive spins more than likely will be repeats, but then -say- at spin 25 you have 18 [highlight]unique[/highlight] numbers.

Repeaters with 2 or 3 hits are taken as a single unique number for tracking purposes. Then once we got 18 uniques, start the Lw registry line.
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: winkel on December 28, 2008, 07:12:24 AM
Quote from: ryan08 on December 27, 2008, 09:41:09 PM
I think he means 18 independant numbers rather than waiting for the 18 last numbers not to have a repeat in them, and it will work better than the GUT

Then anyone may ask himself, why I say:
- don´t bet more than 17 number
- don´t bet 18-18 18-17 19-18

If this selection would be doing better I had noticed for sure

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winkel
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: knabe82 on December 28, 2008, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: VLSroulette on December 28, 2008, 01:43:58 AM
Yes, dear friends, I think this is intended to be UNIQUE numbers.
I.e. in 18 consecutive spins more than likely will be repeats, but then -say- at spin 25 you have 18 [highlight]unique[/highlight] numbers.

Repeaters with 2 or 3 hits are taken as a single unique number for tracking purposes. Then once we got 18 uniques, start the Lw registry line.


Yes. Mr VLS . This is what I am intended to say.
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: Marven on December 28, 2008, 10:31:52 AM
I tried playing this:

Betting on 18 numbers that have showed at least once against the 19 that haven't showed (using the track4 software for easy tracking).
Flat betting using a cancellation line.
Restart when a profit is achieved.

It showed some nice results.
I can't see why this would be worse than the GUT anyway, but that's just me.

Regards,
Marven
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: winkel on December 29, 2008, 06:38:34 AM
I didn´t say it is "worse than the G.U.T"

1. You chance is 18:19 like on Even Chances and it will show exakt the same outcomes
2. If you lose 18 and win 18 you are just equal
3. If you wanna do a progression on it, it will blow you up in a minute
18-18-36-72-144-288 units on the table or 1-1-2-4-8-16 units on each number!!!!!!! Every LW put you just on equal one L more than W kills you.

Too muchm money on the table and too less chance to get out of it winning.

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winkel
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: Marven on December 29, 2008, 11:45:11 AM
Hi Winkel and thanks for the reply my friend. :)

First of all, as a player, I do NOT use this kind of betting anyway. It simply is not my 'style' or preference of play. ;)

But for the sake of healthy debate, I'd like to comment on the following:

You wrote:
Quote1. You chance is 18:19 like on Even Chances and it will show exakt the same outcomes
In a purely mathematical sense, the same is true for betting on 12 numbers against 25 numbers for example (be it a 'crossing' or not). It will show the exact same outcomes as when betting a dozen, or am I missing something?

You wrote:
Quote2. If you lose 18 and win 18 you are just equal
and:
QuoteToo muchm money on the table and too less chance to get out of it winning.
Yes, but 18 numbers have more odds of hitting than say 12 or 9 numbers. ;)
It's all the same in the long run.
(also speaking in a purely simple mathematical view of the game here)
What makes 9 numbers that are in a "crossing" special? What makes them 'better' than any other randomly selected 9 numbers?

This, I think, is THE question of all those who don't believe in the GUT.

QuoteIf you wanna do a progression on it, it will blow you up in a minute
Absolutely!
Progressions are out of the question here.

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With that said, I have quickly tested this 18 numbers bet. Flat betting every time. If I win, I start from scratch. If I lose, I also start from scratch.

Tested it 50 times on real Spielbank spins. Here are the results:

Won: 33 times
Lost: 17 times

Lw registry: LnolinkswLLwLwLnolinksLLwwLnolinkswwLwLnolinksnolinksLnolinksLLwLLwLnolinksLww

Seemed a bit strange to me compared to when betting on Red/Black for example. But I might only have been a bit lucky in this test.

I do however consider the possibility that this can be good when played on a biased wheel, or on a table with many repeats and hot numbers. Let's say you're at the casino and you notice that. You can jump in with this and flat bet until you have a +18u profit, and then stop and continue playing your usual system etc.

Anyways, just a thought.

Best regards,
Marven
Title: Re: Follow last 18 inside bet!!!
Post by: rev on December 29, 2008, 12:45:57 PM
Hi Guy's  seasonal greetings to u all :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)I hope i'm not off track here?I can post a code here for Rx that bets on the first 18 numbers to hit ,with a +1 progression if u wish????