:) Hello all, I hope you feel well,
First of all, excuse me for my bad english I'm french, I have found tiage2 script here : nolinks://vlsroulette.com/roulette-coding-zone/new-system-eager-to-see-tested/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/roulette-coding-zone/new-system-eager-to-see-tested/)
I have a method who works pretty well but very ( too ) long to play without a bot, it's similar to your script at the begining :
you wait for a col or doz not hit for exemple 9 times, after you bet on it and on another one using 1 3 9 27 81 243, etc... progression, the better is to bet the other column who doesn't hit the most, example :
you wait for 1 doz has no hit 9 times ( so at this time, only 2nd and 3rd doz have hit or zero ), suppose 2nd doz hit 6 times and 3rd doz hit 3 times, OK ? 2nd doz is dominant at this time so :
You bet 1 chip on 1rst doz ( who have doesn't hit 9 times ) and you bet 1 chip on 3rd doz ( this one who have only 3 hits on the last 9 ).
If win, start again to wait for 9, if lose, bet 3 on 1rst and 3rd column again, stop at the progression you want in case of many looses in a row.
Doing the same with the 3 columns ( after the same 9 no hit at the same time and that rocks ! )
With your script, we only bet on the doz/column who doesn't hit 9 times in a row but if the 2 others continue to hit, you loose. With mine, the only way to loose is if just one doz/col ( this one who have 6 hits on the last 9 in my example ) continue to hit again and again.
Of course it happens some times but you win more ( really more ) than you loose.
Another question, how to stop the script after win a certain amount chips ? I know how to stop after X spins but not after X wins.
:'( Look here my poor try : nolinks://teubes2.free.fr/Casino/TestDouzainesColognes.psc (nolinks://teubes2.free.fr/Casino/TestDouzainesColognes.psc) don't laugh please, in this trial, I just try to code if 1rst doz doesn't hit 2 times in a row, so bet on 1rst and 2nd doz.
That works but if after the bet on 1rst and 2nd doz the 1rst doz hit, no problem, the bets are clearing and start to play again but if after the bet on 1rst and 2nd doz, the 2nd doz hit, the script doesn't stop the progression and bet again :-\
I hope you'll be interested by my system and could help me to code it.
I'll try and get some time to help you code this.
Quote from: Tiago2 on January 12, 2009, 04:58:56 AM
I'll try and get some time to help you code this.
:thumbsup: It would be really nice !
Can you also do an alternative who is :
if a doz or column hit X times in a row ( 9 for example ), start to bet on the 2 others doz/col with the same 1,3,9,27,... progression ?
Other way with good results too ( not as good as previous strangely, but not enough tests to say that I think)
Quote from: Tiago2 on January 12, 2009, 04:58:56 AM
I'll try and get some time to help you code this.
Did you had the time to try code this Tiago2 ?
Sorry mate Im really short on free time these days. I'm going abroad at the end of this month and need to finish on other coding projects. I wont be able to code this till I get back.
-Tiago2
;) OK Tiago2, no problem, I'll wait for you.
I hope you'll understand my poor french-english... :-[
I'm doing intensive tests with NWRS, very interesting.
I'll post here for those who want to try this great bot
This damns Playtech RNGs are very hard to beat in real mode !
I have tested the first attached script with 500.000 spins in fun mode, 10 wait for a doz/col doesn't appear and a 18 steps progression with a 2000 bankroll, perfect, never lose.
So I have the holy grail lol, let's go to real mode : bankroll out in 50.000 spins with a nice 30 times without the same column ( 32Vegas ) ! :'(
On 1.000.0000 spins in real mode, I never saw more than 30 times without a doz/col to appear, so with a 1 more security step, I play now with a wait and step that cover 32 times with no hit.
Some Playtech give you a 10 chips no deposit bonus and the best is Joyland Casino with a 26 chips no deposit bonus.
You'll find 2 others script, nice to use with this free bonus :
1=> for a start bankroll of 10, 22 wait and 10 steps progression
1=> for a start bankroll of 26, 19 wait and 13 steps progression, Joyland special :)
It takes a long time to win but that works and you can of course increase the progression after the wins.
You MUST play with the 10 cents chips with this scripts and low bankroll but in the NWRS casino config you MUST add the chips in a different way, you add 1, 10, 50, 100, 250, 1000 and when NWRS ask you to click the chip wit value of 1 you click on the 10 cents chips, value of 10 on the 1 chip, value 50 on the 5 chip, etc...
I'll give you too a excel sheet to make your own progressions calculations ( in french, sorry but easy to use ) and NWRS of course !
Have fun all
I have 42 times missed dozen at Prestige casino >:(
42 times ! :-\ No system can beat that !
Damn RNG, sure they cheat, last time I saw a col doesn't hit 30 times and just after a single hit, doesn't hit 30 times again, same third column..... Clearly impossible in a lifetime on a real wheel !
Hi KevinNash,
I am trying to download the video for the casino config, but am not able to, as tiago needs to re-upload it to rapid share. Would it be possible for you to give me give me some kind of instructions on word or notepad.
I have a couple idea's and different progressions that may be able to go past 42.
Thanks in advance
Quote from: MXkid77 on January 24, 2009, 04:04:25 AM
Hi KevinNash,
I am trying to download the video for the casino config, but am not able to, as tiago needs to re-upload it to rapid share. Would it be possible for you to give me give me some kind of instructions on word or notepad.
I have a couple idea's and different progressions that may be able to go past 42.
Thanks in advance
:) Hi ! Nice to see this topic move on, it would be great to have others script here, personaly, I'm not very good at coding.
I'll try to explain you with my poor english :
6 steps to configure a casino :
1 => choose " configure a casino "
2 => tick the european roulette
3 => put a little bet, spin the wheel to have the " rebet button " on the casino window, now click get rebet in NWRS
4 => make sure you have now the " spin button " on the casino window, not the rebet anymore, click capture in NWRS, when capture is finish you must enter and assign the 37 numbers
5 => add the chips value ( 7 chips in 32Vegas for me : 1, 5, 10, 25, 100, 500, 1000 ), right on the first unassigned chips and choose assign, NWRS will ask you to assign the 7 chips, at this point is the tip for the cents, you can assign the 10 cents chip as a false value of 1, the 1 chip as a value of 10...
6 => enter the name you want and click finish.
That's all, next time, just choose the casino you want to use in NWRS.
If for a casino you want to play in fun and in real mode, you must create 2 casinos in NWRS, a fun and a real because the chips positions are differents.
I hope that help you,
Chris.
Thanks Chris,
I tried this last night, but maybe i was impatient when it was capturing the spins. Seemed to take too long.
I did notice though, for the 1st assigned chip, you can enter 0.10.... have you tried this??
Thanks for your help so far.
Quote from: MXkid77 on January 24, 2009, 08:38:48 AM
Thanks Chris,
I tried this last night, but maybe i was impatient when it was capturing the spins. Seemed to take too long.
I did notice though, for the 1st assigned chip, you can enter 0.10.... have you tried this??
Thanks for your help so far.
You can assign the 0.10 chip but you can't setup a progression with 0.10, 0.30, for example in NWRS, doesn't work for me.
When you assign 0.10 as 1, you can also use the same script in fun and real mode ( fun has no 10 chip, start with 1 ), that's better for the tests.
Happy to help you, can't wait for your scripts ! ;)
Still can't get it to capture, it gets rebet fine, the i click rebet to get the spin button, click capture and i can see it says capturing 0 of 37, but it does'nt click spin to get the casino to spin??????
:-\ Strange, did you try with another casino ?
Have you the same problem in fun and real mode ?
If you get the rebet, capture must work, I hope Tiago2 read this and help you
yeah i've tried 2 different casino's, how long did your configuration take???
It could take a while, NWRS spin the wheel until each of the 37 numbers hit, so don't forget to set " no animation " or " express play " in the casino roulette options.
This way it take 1 or 2 minutes to capture all the numbers. :thumbsup:
Thanks for the reply, then there is definately something wrong, it's takes 15+ minutes and still has not captured 1 number.
Will make a video later, maybe you can see if i am doing something wrong.
;) OK when you want
Quote from: KevinNash on January 24, 2009, 08:49:27 AM
You can assign the 0.10 chip but you can't setup a progression with 0.10, 0.30, for example in NWRS, doesn't work for me.
Progressions in NWRS script must always be whole values. No decimals. If you want to achive a progression of 0.10 etc change the "Base Unit" on the bottom left corner of the bot to 0.10. So even thou the progression in the script is 1,1,2,3,4 etc NWR will place that down acording to the base unit so a progresion of 1,1,2,3,4 with a base unit of $0.10 will turn into 0.10,0.10,0.20,0.30 etc.. or with a base unit of $5.0 it will turn into 5.00,5.00,10.00,15.00 etc
Thanks guys, eventually got it to work, running some tests now. I got some progression ideas, will come back to you.
Lets give this a try.
Will need help having this coded into a script, as i don't have a clue yet. It's for dozens and columns.
It's a 54 step 6 stage progression, based on CPS10's stepladder, which will hopefully allow us to follow a dozen from the first spin, catching all the quick hits, and hopefully be able to survive the "freak show" 42 misses.
Nothing written in stone here, it will need testing first, and the stages can be fine tuned to get the bigger wins early. Let code it first and take it from there. DD = Drawdown
Stage 1: 1,1,2,4,5,8,12,18,26 (DD 77)
Stage 2: 2,2,4,6,10,15,23,35,50 (DD 147)
Stage 3: 4,5,8,15,20,30,45,70,100 (DD 297)
Stage 4: 1,2,3,5,8,13,20,31,47 (DD 130)
Stage 5: 2,4,7,11,17,26,40,61,92 (DD 260)
Stage 6: 8,13,20,31,47,71,107,161,243 (DD 701)
Total 6 stage DD 1612
Each stage is a 9 step progression. The idea is to start betting with stage 1, if no hits in 1st 9 spins, continue the progression with stage 2 etc, etc.
Later MX
Edit: Reset back to stage 1 after new BR high.
;) Hello MXkid77, here's the 54 steps quick script I have done ( modify Tiago2 script, I'm not a good coder myself ).
In this script, you can modify progression at line 7 : " Progr := [1,1,2,4,5,8,12,18,26,2,2,4,6,10,15,23,35,50,4,5,8,15,20,30,45,70,100,1,2,3,5,8,13,20,31,47,2,4,7,11,17,26,40,61,92,8,13,20,31,47,71,107,161,243]; //..Progressions "
You can set the wait time for a doz/col doesn't hit before bet at line 27 : " if FieldCounters[Cat] > 1 then "
The script always bet one col or doz at a time, never 2 at the same time, perfect to not kill the bankroll with 2 progressions at the same time !
I set to 1 so, it start to bet immediatly after a no-hit for any doz/col, I suggest you to do some tests with differents start-value ( not to high, to not lose the quick hits, and not to low to not burn ).
First impression : looks impressive, really, let's test all the day !
Can't find the thread " CPS10's stepladder " where is it please ?
Give me your feedback :thumbsup:
cps10 stepladder was a thread over at rouletteforum.
Not sure if it was it's own thread or part of a thread started by Simon.
Hope that helps,
MM
Thanks mate, will run the sukker tonight. Do you know if this script is compatible with RX???
I just tried to teach myself, but only thing i have learnt, is how to give my self a painful headache, really quickly..... :)
Kevin
Basically the CPS10 Stepladder is the 1st 3 stages of the 6 above.
Stage 1: 1,1,2,4,5,8,12,18,26
Stage 2: 2,2,4,6,10,15,23,35,50
Stage 3: 4,5,8,15,20,30,45,70,100
I also can't think if i have seen it on this forum, will do a search tonight.
Quote from: MXkid77 on January 28, 2009, 11:40:24 AM
Kevin
Basically the CPS10 Stepladder is the 1st 3 stages of the 6 above.
Stage 1: 1,1,2,4,5,8,12,18,26
Stage 2: 2,2,4,6,10,15,23,35,50
Stage 3: 4,5,8,15,20,30,45,70,100
I also can't think if i have seen it on this forum, will do a search tonight.
Don't find CPS10 thread :-\
One thing I think, in the " Topic: 12-Million RNG Spin Stats shared by Poit " here : nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/12-million-rng-spin-stats-shared-by-poit/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/12-million-rng-spin-stats-shared-by-poit/), we can see the max interval for col/doz in 12 millions spins is 42, so we don't need a 54 steps and more you wait for a col/doz who doesn't hit before bet less steps you have to reach the max 42.
So if you wait 10 no-hit before bet, you need 32 steps to cover the risk.
P.S I never use Rxtreme.
Funny thing with roulette, i never thought i would hear someone say it it missed 42 times, what's stopping it from missing more........
I ran the script on play money, we need to adjust it to return to stage 1 progression on a new bankroll high. I am running manually through RX and it seems positive so far, although it has not gone past 22 yet, which was into the 3rd stage, it recovered nicely betting the 3rd stage and once on a new high i went back to stage one.
It may seem to be harder to script than i originally thought.
Any ideas?
Quote from: MXkid77 on January 28, 2009, 06:59:22 PM
Funny thing with roulette, i never thought i would hear someone say it it missed 42 times, what's stopping it from missing more........
Very good point, to which I agree to.
MM
Quote from: MattyMattz on January 28, 2009, 07:07:18 PM
Very good point, to which I agree to.
MM
:) Look at Poit 12 millions stats post here : nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/12-million-rng-spin-stats-shared-by-poit/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/12-million-rng-spin-stats-shared-by-poit/) very interesting, you can't indefinetely have a no-hit on a doz/col don't forget at step 42, this doz/col has already miss 41 times, in theory she must have hit 41/3=13,66 times at this moment that must stop at one moment.
It's like red/black, you can't have black and zeros a thousand of times, red comes at one moment ( 29 max interval on 12 millions spins ), I know that is always even chance but that can't be the same chance forever.
And so, imagine you have a 43 times no-hit after more than 12 millions of spins, it won't kill your bankroll, the 12 millions spins before you have win a lot of money. No need to cover a risk who don't come 1 time in 12 millions.
That's why it's not necessary to have a more than 42 steps progression and if you're waiting for some no-hit before betting, you can do it with a smaller progression.
I play in real mode since 10 hours now with a 15 wait + 19 steps progression ( so I cover a 34 no-hit for a doz/col ), I start this morning with 297 chips and now 76340 spins later, I've reached 708 chips.
Script is below
Hey KN,
that's great that your winning. And I understand what your saying. Heck, I play a progression as well. I just like the point MX made about the fact that a trend "can" keep trending FOREVER... it can happen. I'm not saying it will, but it can...
Cheers,
MM
Quote from: MattyMattz on January 28, 2009, 11:03:35 PM
Hey KN,
that's great that your winning. And I understand what your saying. Heck, I play a progression as well. I just like the point MX made about the fact that a trend "can" keep trending FOREVER... it can happen. I'm not saying it will, but it can...
Cheers,
MM
Hi ! I agree with you too. But if you think about this, you never play roulette :)
The real problem is if that happend ( a 43 in a row no-hit after more than 12 millions spins for example ) have you win most than you loose at this time ?
One other thing I'm thinking now, when you set a progression, in general you want to win money for each step of the progression but :
most of the hits are coming soon and sometime you have several no-hits, but not too often, so my idea is to set a progression who win money on the most frequents hits and just cover the risk ( I mean don't win-don't loose money or eventually loose a little ) in the high steps of the progression, this way you can cover more steps with a smaller bankroll and don't reach the table limit too soon.
Quote from: MXkid77 on January 28, 2009, 11:33:42 AM
Thanks mate, will run the sukker tonight. Do you know if this script is compatible with RX???
I just tried to teach myself, but only thing i have learnt, is how to give my self a painful headache, really quickly..... :)
:thumbsup: Here it is CPS10 Stepladder RX coded with the possibility to set a wait for no-hit doz ! You'll find my personal RX script too.
You choose the wait a the start of the script ( if you don't want you put 0 ), you can also change the progression as you want with the system editor at the bottom of the script.
Hi KevinN,
I coded the system you described in post #1 (see attachment) for NWRScripter, I hope I got it right.
Give it a try and tell me whether it's what you wanted.
I tried it quickly myself and seemed fine ;)
I have included TakeProfit and StopLoss (even if could be not very useful here), at the end of a session in the console window you get the summary of the session, net result, max drawdown and bankroll high/low.
I left this package also at the NWR forum but maybe here you have more chances to find it :)
lizard911
Quote from: lizard911 on February 14, 2009, 10:19:44 AM
Hi KevinN,
I coded the system you described in post #1 (see attachment) for NWRScripter, I hope I got it right.
Give it a try and tell me whether it's what you wanted.
I tried it quickly myself and seemed fine ;)
I have included TakeProfit and StopLoss (even if could be not very useful here), at the end of a session in the console window you get the summary of the session, net result, max drawdown and bankroll high/low.
I left this package also at the NWR forum but maybe here you have more chances to find it :)
lizard911
:thumbsup: Impressive ! You're really good at coding thank you very much, I'll do several tests with your script tomorrow.
Congratulations for your work :)
hello kevin how are the test for now, i mean the scripts that you are propose here
Quote from: reddog on April 04, 2009, 06:57:10 PM
hello kevin how are the test for now, I mean the scripts that you are propose here
Hi !
With a correct wait setting for the miss ( 9 for example ) it's a very good system to play with NWRS bot.
With more wait, the wins are slow but sure, you never reach the losing point but you need a lot of spins to win your units.
I actually test a different way to bet, a sort of step progression who looks very promising.
i have a problem with program
i cant configure any casino i try with bet365 but it say something about rebet buton and spin but i cant make the program to work
any sugestion
You must have the rebet button present in the casino window and click " get rebet " in NWRS when you configure a casino.
I forgot, the main NWRS thread is here : nolinks://vlsroulette.com/other-software-for-roulette/nwrscripter-free-automated-roulette-program-create-any-system-you-want/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/other-software-for-roulette/nwrscripter-free-automated-roulette-program-create-any-system-you-want/)
yes i have rebet buton in casino window, i push get rebet buton, but after this i cant get any number and the roulette doesnt spin
Be carefull to have the casino and NWRS windows completely separated before starting the config, and don't move them until you finish the config.
You can also try a drag and drop with the mouse between the " get rebet " and the " rebet " buttons.
To start the number capture, clear bets before to have the spin button on the casino window.
thanks kevin for your advice, i did the casino to work now.
So what scripts do you recomand?
I personaly tested one related to R/B bets.
But now i cant because i use RBS program in trial version and he expire.
My system is like this:
I wait for 4 or 5 alternate rbrbrb and then bet for last colour R or B for 10 or 11 step progresion.
How do you think?
It is posible to code a script like this
Thanks
:) Glad to help you with NWRS.
You can use RSS script in NWRS, you must just add this code in the script, at the start :
Uses
Scriptutils, RConversion;
I suppose you can also do the same thing with RBS script, is it Scripter Studio software too ? If it is, this code must work.
To be honest with you, I an not a big fan of even odds systems, the only way to win is to set many many wait spins before betting, so you win a few units very slowly.
With less wait spins, an incredible serie always kill your bankroll.
I have some good scripts, numbers and Doz/Cols related, they are not my creation, it's a team work, so I can't share them.
Here's the last optimised Doz/Col script, it's a gift for you, very interesting, a lot of options in like stop-loss, take profit, trailing-stop, a good piece to learn how to code in NWRS.
Quote from: reddog on April 10, 2009, 12:09:41 PM
thanks kevin for your advice, I did the casino to work now.
So what scripts do you recomand?
I personaly tested one related to R/B bets.
But now I cant because I use RBS program in trial version and he expire.
My system is like this:
I wait for 4 or 5 alternate rbrbrb and then bet for last colour R or B for 10 or 11 step progresion.
How do you think?
It is posible to code a script like this
Thanks
This script should run this system u mentioned in NWRS. Just copy past the entire script into NWRS. I've commented all the lines so hopefully u might be able to understand the logic i used to code this and it may help u in writting ur own scripts.
Enjoy!
Uses
ScriptUtils;
Begin
FAlarm := 5; //..How many alternating R/B until it bets. Change this to higher or lower values if u want
Progr := [1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128]; //..Progressions to use
ProgrLen := 8; //..Amount of progressions its using if u change the progressions u must also change this to the amount of progressions to use
//..
Print('Coded by Tiago2 for vlsroulette members');
//..
FCnt := 0; //..Alternating R/B count
LastCat := -5; //..Used to keep track of the previous category
FIdx := 0; //..Index to which progression step its currently betting at
FCatBet := -5; //..Category to be bet at
for i := 1 to 500 do //..Run this system for 500 times
Begin
Click_Spin; //.. Spin the casino wheel
For Cat := Red to Black do //..Cycle thought NWRS Red/Bacl categories
Begin
if NumberSpun = 0 then //..If the last number spun is 0
Begin //
FCnt := 0 // then reset the R/B count to 0
LasCat := -5; // and remove the last R/B category as 0 isn't in R/B
End;
else if (NumInCat(NumberSpun,Cat) = True) then //..If Number spun was in a particular category (R or B)
Begin
if LastCat <> Cat Then //..if the R/B that came up isn't the R/B that came up no
Inc(FCnt) // then increase the R/B count
else FCnt := 0; //..else if it is the same R/B then reset count back to 0
LastCat := Cat; //..Record the R/B that came up for next round
if FCatBet = Cat then //..If were were betting and we won
Begin //
FIdx := 0; // Reset Progr Index to 0
FCatBet := -5; // Stop betting
End;
End;
End;
if (FCnt >= FAlarm) or (FCatBet <> -5) then //..If R/B count is Greater or Equal to the Alarm or we're already betting
Begin
if FIdx >= ProgrLen then //..First check to see if we came to the end of the progressions
Begin //
Print('Progressions have come to an end. System Stopped'); // if we have, tell user we have
Break; // get out of the 500 spins. Stops the system
End;
if FCatBet = -5 then //..If its the first time we're betting
FCatBet := LastCat; // record the category we're to bet at
PlaceBet(FCatBet,Progr[FIdx]); // place bet
Inc(FIdx); // Increase the Progr step Index ready for next round if we don't win
End;
End;
End;
lol ;D
Tiago2 code the system quickly than me to post my poor solution :thumbsup:
Lol, my bad KevinNash for steeling your thunder. Next one i'll give u a bit more time to come up with a script ;) lol
thanks a lot guys , i will test the scripts that you give me
Hi reddog,
I'm bit late with the delivery, anyway here's my script version.
It's not much different from Tiago2's script, it just keeps track of bankroll and u can set parameters such as TakeProfit and StopLoss to quit the session in case.