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A forum member who shall remain anonymous sent this system to me.  This is the simplest system I've ever seen that works as well as it does.  The author has tested it on Bodog RNG in fun mode and I have tested it on the Microgaming Starburst wheel results I save daily from playing the G.U.T.

This is called the S.O.S.  The challenge is to guess who wrote the system.  When someone guesses the system name, there will be a prize!  Here is the first clue:  ______________ O____________System.  You fill in the first two blanks.

I have run about 300 to 350 numbers and only lost once.  A loss is 71 units.  Here is the chart:

   R/B    Doz.   O/E   Col.   H/L
1   B      2/3      E     2/3     H

2   R      2/3      O     1/3     H

3   B      2/3      E      1/2    H

4   R      2/3      O      2/3    H

5   B      2/3      E      1/3    H

6   R      2/3      O      1/2    H

7   B      2/3      E       2/3   H

8   R      2/3      O      1/3    H

9   B      2/3      E      1/2    H

10 R      2/3      O      2/3    H

11 R      2/3      E      1/3    H

12 B      2/3      O      1/2    H

13 R      1/3      E       2/3   H

14 B      1/3      O       1/3   H

15 R      1/3      E       1/2   H

16 B      1/3      O       2/3   H

17 R      1/3      E       1/3   H

18 B      1/3      O       1/2   H

19 B      1/3      E       2/3   L

20 R      1/3      O      1/3    L

21 B      1/3      E       1/2   L
 
22 R      1/3      O       2/3   L

23 B      1/3      E       1/3   L

24 R      1/3      O       1/2   L

25 B      1/2      E       2/3    L

26 R      1/2      O       1/3    L

27 B      1/2      E       1/2    L

28 R      1/3      O       2/3    L

29 R      1/2      E       1/3    L

30 B      1/2      O       1/2    L

31 R      1/2      E       2/3     L

32 B      1/2      O       1/3     L

33 R      1/2      E        1/2    L

34 B      1/2      O        2/3    L

35 R      1/2      E        1/3     L

36 B      1/2      O        1/2     L

The thirty-six numbers are the wheel numbers.  We do not play the zero.  Here are the ironclad rules, plain and simple.  Take number 36 for example (because I can see it).  The "B", "1/2" and so on are explained at the top of the chart.  Thirty-six is red, you bet black.  If you lose on that bet, then bet the dozens 1 and 2.  Failing that, bet odd.  Then columns one and two and lastly, the low or small numbers.   

Here is the betting scheme for number 36.  Apply it to all numbers
Black....bet one unit on black
Dozens one and two.....bet two units on each dozen
Odd.......bet six units on odd.
Columns one and two........bet twelve units on each column
Low numbers........bet 36 units on low

You will be surprised how many times this thing wins.  I'm sure it will "hit the wall" from time to time, but it is easy to play and I am looking forward to placing real bets on it.

Sam

cant see the sense,mate,seems to me like a lottery,and pl.of paper work.

It´s like a Parachute ala against all odds kind of thing, I like the idea cool one!  :thumbsup:

Yeah me too, it is nice and simpel Thx for sharing  :thumbsup:

By the way Twocat, i take it S.O.S is short for the name of this system?

BR
Kingpin

"The author has tested it on Bodog RNG in fun mode" --- Were the practice bets made on paper (notebook) or PLACED on the site itself?  Ken

I dont trust Bodog fun mode i got a straightflush playing carribean stud for fun there

Its not BoDog I'm picking on. Its ANY practice site. I *DO* use BoDog and Intercasino but my virtual bets are in a notebook, I just hit the spin button. I dont need FALSE results from them just to build my confidence and as you then know....get the ole credit card out!  Ken

yep yep 8)

Hi TwoCatSam
Is this the correct answer..on odds and even........all are "S"
on red black  listed next to red black below.

1   B  X    2/3      E     2/3     H

2   R  X   2/3      O     1/3     H

3   B  S    2/3      E      1/2    H

4   R  S    2/3      O      2/3    H

5   B  S    2/3      E      1/3    H

6   R  S    2/3      O      1/2    H

7   B  S    2/3      E       2/3   H

8   R  S    2/3      O      1/3    H

9   B S     2/3      E      1/2    H

10 R  S    2/3      O      2/3    H

11 R  O    2/3      E      1/3    H

12 B  O    2/3      O      1/2    H

13 R  S    1/3      E       2/3   H

14 B  S    1/3      O       1/3   H

15 R  S    1/3      E       1/2   H

16 B  S    1/3      O       2/3   H

17 R  S    1/3      E       1/3   H

18 B  S    1/3      O       1/2   H

19 B  O    1/3      E       2/3   L

20 R  O    1/3      O      1/3    L

21 B  S    1/3      E       1/2   L
 
22 R  S    1/3      O       2/3   L

23 B  S    1/3      E       1/3   L

24 R  S    1/3      O       1/2   L

25 B  S    1/2      E       2/3    L

26 R  S    1/2      O       1/3    L

27 B  S    1/2      E       1/2    L

28 R  S    1/3      O       2/3    L

29 R  O    1/2      E       1/3    L

30 B  O    1/2      O       1/2    L

31 R  S    1/2      E       2/3     L

32 B  S   1/2      O       1/3     L

33 R  S    1/2      E        1/2    L

34 B  S    1/2      O        2/3    L

35 R  S    1/2      E        1/3     L

36 B  S    1/2      O        1/2     L



Cheers
WIN1WIN2

R.O.B system?

good day,
Name for  S  O  S   ls same oppoite same.

I apologise for being ill informed here.....  :-[


is column 1, 1-34 or 3-36 ??


Just want to be certain on what I am betting on..... ;)


Many thanks to anybody that can answer my question...... :thumbsup:

OK,  I'll try to answer questions.

1.  I don't know if the author bet or placed paper bets.  He claims to be up 1500 units.
2.  You can call the system S.O.S for short but there are two words to fill in.  Any guesses?
3.  Xman, I don't understand your question.

Let's say the 7 is the last number to come.  It is red, so we bet black.  It is in the first dozen so we would bet the 2nd and third.  It is small; we bet large.  It is odd; we bet even.  It is in the 1st column; we bet columns two and three.  We are betting everything our last number isn't.  And it makes no difference which you bet first or last.  Any win produces a unit of profit.

While cold-number testing the thing I began to wonder if it would ever loose.  Of course, it did.

Sam

Sam your previous post answered my question...... :thumbsup:


I will do some testing & post my results in this thread....


Many many thx..... 8)

Quote from: win1win2 on January 18, 2009, 12:53:43 AM
good day,
Name for  S  O  S   ls same oppoite same.

No, but you got the second word.

S______________Opposite System

Sam

can this work on live wheel

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 18, 2009, 03:03:43 AM
No, but you got the second word.

S______________Opposite System

Sam

Simple Opposite System ???

x

No, but it is simple, isn't it? 

Since I learned I had a ghost in my router/ethernet cable, I am beginning to wonder if this was the problem I was having at Wild Jack Casino.  They told me repeatedly it was a bug on my end; maybe they were right.

I think I'll toss a few bucks their way and play this thing a little with real money.  See if I can get 71 units up before it tanks.

Sam

Good look with that Sam Pls let us know how it goes...... :thumbsup:

Super Opposite System ????

Hi TwoCatSam.

Is the charting correct using DBL to insert the O and S.

On the even and odds  sector it is all "S"
if u bet on even and odds sector u will have

34 wins in a rollw.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.w.
still have potiential to continue on wins cycle
just imagine using a positive progression stop on a lost
cheers

win1win2

straight op.sys.

or either -simplest op, sys.

Ok this is starting to bug me now Sam, one FINAL guess.....


Is It.....


Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Opposite System ???  ;D :D ;D


BTW Sam, as you will be betting on Microgaming Live wheel the minimum bet on E/C is 2.5 Correct ??

therefore for your final bet High or Low you will need to bet 36*2.5 90 units (I hope I have this right)

Do you know what the maximum bet on E/C is on their wheel ???


Or for that matter their maximum bet on 2:1 bets ??


Just a thought......

Hi
Is it .....Sams Opposite System..... by any chance mate?  :D
regards TSK
ps Ill post some testing tonight too

Tested at unibet fun mode 20 units profit...highest bet placed 12 units on 2 columns

Swapping oposite system---bingo

Let's see if I can remember them all..........

win1win2  I don't understand your O and S.  That is in the name only.  We know O is opposite and S is system.  You just bet black if your last number was red and so on.

No one has guessed it yet.  Not Sam's Opposite System.  Nope.

Xman..You're right.  It is 2.5 for a EC.  Thanks for reminding of me that.  Don't know what their maximum is.

Sam

scrolled o system

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 18, 2009, 03:12:24 AM
x

No, but it is simple, isn't it? 

Since I learned I had a ghost in my router/ethernet cable, I am beginning to wonder if this was the problem I was having at Wild Jack Casino.  They told me repeatedly it was a bug on my end; maybe they were right.

I think I'll toss a few bucks their way and play this thing a little with real money.  See if I can get 71 units up before it tanks.

Sam

I can't get into Wild Jack's Live Dealer Roulette anymore, either.  I can get into their RNG games and other areas, but not any of their Live games.
They say it's my problem, too. 

Ron.

Sporadic opposite system?

Solitary opposite system?

Solo opposite system?

Switcher opposite system

S/all the forum members starting with letter S/--------------OPPOSITE SYSTEM

Quote from: iboba on January 18, 2009, 05:37:21 PM
S/all the forum members starting with letter S/--------------OPPOSITE SYSTEM

oooooooooooo

Very good!

What was the  reward,mate,reckon a lobster.

Sadists Opposite System
Socrates ???????????????

Save Our Souls.

Nope!

iboba

I'm still working on that reward part. 

Sam

Hi Sam/Scooby, I have just ran some tests for the last couple of hours using approx 400 spins and unbelievably had my first loss in the last ten spins. Then somehow, the VLSroulette.com layout prog shut down my notepad when closed with all my results  >:(

This definitely has some merit and will test it further tomorrow. Its just about bedtime here in the UK.

Have been pondering over someway to increase the winnings as 71 units is a large hit but can't think of any.

Regards

Clint

Symetrical opposite system----night

@ Scooby Doo

Hi SD,   

I agree with you it needs testing.....

should be able to find time over the next couple of days to test a couple of thousand spins.....


I will post the results here as soon as possible.....

Hi folks
As I stated earlier I would test for a few spins and here are my results:
112 spins
+68

Now thats quite impressive Sam.
TSK
Will test some more in next few days

Quote@ Scooby Doo

Hi SD,   

I agree with you it needs testing.....

should be able to find time over the next couple of days to test a couple of thousand spins.....


I will post the results here as soon as possible.....

same here

Uly

_ _o_ _ _ '_ Opposite System...

Hi SD,
             I am no maths geek so there maybe errors.....

adding all the five levels of the progression you get :-

0.486 (18/37 R or B) * 0.649 (24/37 2Doz) * 0.486 (18/37 odd or even) * 0.649 (24/37 2Col) * 0.486 (18/37 High or Low) = 0.048

So basically you should win 95 times out of 100  ???

so far the testing people have stated for some reason it would appears to be doing better than that.....



Just a thought... why not start playing this after EVERY spin ??

32 is spun so we now bet BLACK

1 is spun so we now bet 1/2 Doz (re 32) & BLACK (re 1)

this way you could have up to 5 bets at the same time..... & therefore in theory win more times in less spins....... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



That way you can reach your Stop win value quicker & get out of there before that dreaded "-2.7%" logic bites into your BankRoll......


Just a thought guys, just a thought...... 8)

Hey SD,

No my friend what I suggested is different to what you have stated in the reply above.....

1st number spun =36

so we bet BLACK

2nd number spun=1

so we bet 1/2 DOZ (re number36) & BLACK (re number 1)

I will test a session now with RX & then post the session as a attachment ;)

Son Of B**** system? ;D ;D ;D

ok guys just run a quick session


95 spins +93 no losses  ;)


The attachment is below (a RX file of said session), now no doubt there WILL be errors it's 6am here in the Uk & I'm trying out a system for the 1st time so sorry......  :-[

The session below is to try & show what I meant by playing every number every spin until a win....


Any thought will be greatly appreciated...  :thumbsup:

What do we do after a ZERO

Quote from: macedonianroulette on January 19, 2009, 04:24:15 AM
What do we do after a ZERO

Take a look at the 1st post Macedonianroulette  :thumbsup:

2Cats states we do not play zero


Welcome to the forum BTW,  8) Hope you find what you are looking for..... :thumbsup:

BTW, a lot lot less personal attacks here compared to RF  ;)

Hi guys, I'm a newbie here and just trying to finetune my systems :)

as voor the name of this one...

It must be....

TwoCat 's Opposite System

Going to make same test runs with this one and hope to be back soon.

Arie

Hello Sam,

Thanks for twocat's opposite system

regards

sniper

Shorty's Opposite system :)

SCROLLED OPPOSITE SYSTEM

Is everybody missing the obvious. It's Scooby's system, possibly.

Clint

Not mine. :)

Clint wins the prize.

Quote from: Clint on January 18, 2009, 08:57:39 PM
VLSroulette.com layout prog shut down my notepad

Clint,

This is a VERY extrange behaviour! What can I do to replicate this! BTW: Totally sorry for your testing results.

I'm interested to see if it is a bug, the layout messing with notepad!  :o

Thanks.

Didnt I mention it previously??????All the members starting with letter S---but if there is a consolation prize,would prefer just one unswer,mate.The spins 5000 of yours,/live presumably--confirm pls./how can I find it???but bear in mind,am apprentice with this/comp./age,mate,age,but its never to late.Cheers,iboba

No worries Victor. To be honest it is the first time it has happened and Notepad would not 'undo' to bring back the info. At least I know this system potentially works. Will try and post some results tonight.

Regards

Clint  :thumbsup:

Sorry guys to disappoint you, but a system like this cannot be winning in long run at all. Just use maths & logic: if you take a series of 5 spins, the chance you lose is (19/37)*(13/37)*(19/37)*(13/37)*(19/37) = 1,67%. Which means that about 17 series out 1000 are losing (total loss 17*71= 1207 units), 987 series are winning, which means only 987 units gained. This shows an average loss of 220 units per 5000 spins...

See the testing results in 1.000.000 spins:

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Froulette.euweb.cz%2FS.O.S.%2520-%2520test.GIF&hash=5c8bd8ecc8f646293275c7467b832ef4d25545af)

If any of you would like to see the testing spread sheet (in excel), get it here:
nolinks://roulette.euweb.cz/S.O.S.xls (nolinks://roulette.euweb.cz/S.O.S.xls)
(to get a longer testing range just copy the yellow block down as many times as required...)

Evangalis

Quotea system like this cannot be winning in long run at all. Just use maths & logic

I'm not convinced. When has maths, logic and probability been exact or absolute? Especially with regards to PRNG roulette. Also with most betting strategies you play it while it wins and back off when goes belly up. So I reckon give this system a run for it's money and evaluate it's progress.

Uly

Sorry Victor, just noticed your question from earlier.

I opened notepad to run through some Spielbank spins and when I had finished, I closed the layout which gives the option to close 'all' modules. I chose yes and the notepad info cleared itself with only the word 'Closed' showing. The undo option was blank hence could not retrieve the lost info. Again it has not done this before so not worrying too much.

Regards

Clint

Just ran through some testing from the spielbank spins. God certainly does have a sense of humour as my first loss came as I hit exactly +71. Will test some more tomorrow.

20051231_2 Spielbank  207 spins -27 units.

Scooby, are you using real money on this yet?

Regards

Clint

QuoteThe thirty-six numbers are the wheel numbers.  We do not play the zero.  Here are the ironclad rules, plain and simple.  Take number 36 for example (because I can see it).  The "B", "1/2" and so on are explained at the top of the chart.  Thirty-six is red, you bet black.  If you lose on that bet, then bet the dozens 1 and 2.  Failing that, bet odd.  Then columns one and two and lastly, the low or small numbers.  

Hi Sam & Scooby

Just Clarify things for everyone.
36 comes up we bet 5 bets from there if needed.
The numbers that come up in those 5 spins are Irrespective is that right ??
Like this
36..bet Black L..the 1/2Doz L..then odd.L...then Columns L..then Low W << correct ??
So we at all times just take notice of number 36 Right ??

Lanky.

ScoobyDoo.

Thanks for the reply Mate.

Lanky.

Lanky  i think you may be wrong.  The best way to play this system is to follow the progression through from each loosing number as it hits. Example the last spun number is  lets say number 34 , so we start by betting  1 chip on black , we lose this next spin because number  4 comes in so our next bet is 2 chips on dozens 2 and 3 , we lose again as number 17 comes in ,so the next bet is 6 chips on even . I think this was the way this method was intended as the idea is to always play the opposite. This is the way i play it and so far i have won every progression over many games.

QuoteLanky  i think you may be wrong.

Hi King.

Well mate seeing the that the guy that Invented it says I am right.

Then I guess I am right.

Lanky.

Hi Kingspin,
                   I played the "other" way as suggested by Lanky & myself it bombed  :( :( :(


I lost 6 times in 250 ish spins.......

Playing the other way may well be better....

But I think the losses are still there......


Many many thx for sharing Scooby, I like your logic......  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


RX files are below, I apologise for any mistakes you may find..... :-[

iboba

Here is the link to my 5,000 spins.  They are a live single 0 wheel.

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/the-twocat-5000/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/the-twocat-5000/)

Sam

Scooby - Have you come up with a way of doing this but with hedging the Zero...

I understand the outlay is more than the proposed 71 units as it is now...

Just a thought.

This is what i've come up with (Somebody please verify if numbers give profits)

R/B 2Units                  Zero 1Unit
Dozens 5Units each      Zero 1Unit   
E/O 16Units                Zero 1 Unit
Columns 35 Units each  Zero 3Units
H/L 112Units               Zero 7Units

I hope this is correct math... although for 1 unit win bankroll of 223 Units. The Zero's are where the real units are won.

Also Scooby have you tested against the exact same system but trying repeats???

example:
Call 1 number:
10
Bet for Black.... L
Bet on Doz 1/(Last hit Doz - which is not Doz1)...... L
Bet on Even.... L
Bet on Col 1/(Last hit Column - which is not Col1)... L
Bet on Low...???

Seems like the same thing to me...