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Title: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Nathan Detroit on January 24, 2009, 06:05:42 PM
To  begin with , let me  state that this is  recommended  ONLY  for the 0/00 Wheel.

The approach of selecting the  2  dozens is based  upon  the  dozens on the  wheel   contiguous number sequence. The numbers   are divided into 3  sectors A/B/C as shown.

In short, what we are doing is  charting for the sectors  on the wheel and placing  the  bets  accordingly on the respective  dozens  on the layout.

Neighbors
Section A   Section B       Section C
1 13 36 24 3 15 - 34 22 5 17 32 20 - 7 11 30 26 9 28 0
2 14 35 23 4 16 - 33 21 6 18 31 19 - 8 12 29 25 10 27 00



Section-A----number 1  - 16

Section-B----number 34 -  19

Section -C----number 7-  00

After establishing that  a particular sector  has been HIT TWICE consecutively  place  your bet accordingly:

Hits  section A ,bet  First and second dozen on layout.

Hits   section B, bet  Second  and third dozen on layout

Hits  section C , bet   First and third  dozen on layout.

Ideal   for  HIT and RUN.

Nathan Detroit

HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

PROFIT over GREED !!!







Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: JLP on January 24, 2009, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on January 24, 2009, 06:05:42 PM
To  begin with , let me  state that this is  recommended  ONLY  for the 0/00 Wheel.

The approach of selecting the  2  dozens is based  upon  the  dozens on the  wheel   contiguous number sequence. The numbers   are divided into 3  sectors A/B/C as shown.

In short, what we are doing is  charting for the sectors  on the wheel and placing  the  bets  accordingly on the respective  dozens  on the layout.

Neighbors
Section A   Section B       Section C
1 13 36 24 3 15 - 34 22 5 17 32 20 - 7 11 30 26 9 28 0
2 14 35 23 4 16 - 33 21 6 18 31 19 - 8 12 29 25 10 27 00



Section-A----number 1  - 16

Section-B----number 34 -  19

Section -C----number 7-  00

After establishing that  a particular sector  has been HIT TWICE consecutively  place  your bet accordingly:

Hits  section A ,bet  First and second dozen on layout.

Hits   section B, bet  Second  and third dozen on layout

Hits  section C , bet   First and third  dozen on layout.

Ideal   for  HIT and RUN.

Nathan Detroit

HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

PROFIT over GREED !!!









Hi Nathan Detroit,

Thanks for sharing new approach. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
You say the sectors on the wheel are contiguous, but I see the sectors opposed on the wheel (sector A has it opposite A as in the diagram and also the others B & C).

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg165.imageshack.us%2Fimg165%2F8962%2Famericanroulettewhelldiyd9.jpg&hash=1cbf0e62ecc8b11d2f2d6d48a122fc55a4b6b346)

With the same criterion the sectors can be interpollated to use in the 0 European wheel??
Here would be diagram for single zero and the numbers interpollated.

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg401.imageshack.us%2Fimg401%2F5728%2Feuropeanroulettewheel1kn7.jpg&hash=65e769fd55e7b807f368c1dc43437bd712ddc7a8)

So the correllated sectors for the 0 single wheel would be :

Sector A : 2 21 4 19 15 32
             20 1 33 16 24 5

Sector B : 25 17 34 6 27 13
             14 31 9 22 18 29

Sector C : 36 11 30 8 23 10
             7 28 12 35 3 26 0

Cheers,  :D :) ;)
JLP.-
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Nathan Detroit on January 24, 2009, 11:29:56 PM
JLP,

You are correct . This way I only need to remember HALF of the   0/00  wheel to know  whats on the other side.As you will have noticed  in a particular section wherever you see 3  Even  Low  number you will find 3  Odd High numbers or vice versa.

Therefore when  I am playing at the casino I won`t require any  reference material.




Thanks for  your contribution.
Nathan Detroit

HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Profit over Greed.
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: JLP on January 25, 2009, 01:04:05 AM
Hi ND, ;D ;D

I made in HIT&RUN form -hehe a spreadsheet and a little test on it taking the numbers and sectors of the 0 European wheel.
Numbers from CasinoVittoriosa spins.
Seems to work quite well with this distribution of sectors, although is only 1 test.
Hit & run you consider 3, 4 or till how many hits??
Also only flat bet I suppose, no progression involved.

Cheers, :D :D ;)
JLP.-
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Nathan Detroit on January 25, 2009, 10:56:00 AM
In conclusion:

MONEY MANAGEMENT:

FLAT BETTING

Bankroll: 20 times the first bet  per session.
Prepare for  3 sessions.
If winning the first 2  sessions  we do not  schedule a  third session.

Win Goal 10 - 20 % of bankroll ( Those  are REASONABLE and easily attainable  amounts)

Loss limit 25 % of bankroll.

A session ends  when:

Win goal has been  reached
or
Loss limit is near or  at established  point.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!





Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: moneyshot on January 27, 2009, 02:01:03 AM
ND Thanks for sharing.  After reading your thread I grabbed the scorecards that I played today and yesterday to back track.  I am very impressed sofar.  I have a question for clarification if you don't mind.
Spin   section

3         B
23       A
19       C
26       C
29       C WINNER
12       C Does this spin qualify as a play? If so it is a winner.  Or do we wait for two more consecutive hits AFTER  the winner?
5         B

If we wait then it would look like this right?
3        A
2        A
4        A PLAY ON 1ST & 2ND = WINNER
13      A
23      A
13      A  PLAY WAS ON 1ST & 2ND = WINNER
Thanks, I hope I asked this correctly. 
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Nathan Detroit on January 27, 2009, 05:49:34 PM
moneyshot,


Correction: # 3 is in section A. # 19 is  in section B but would have given you a win nevertheless.. Therefore your next bet would  have been  after #26   and # 29   both being section C would have brought a  win  at #12.. 
O,K.?
3        A
23       A
19       B
26       C
29       C WINNER
12       C Does this spin qualify as a play? If so it is a winner.  Or do we wait for two more consecutive hits AFTER  the winner?
5         B

If we wait then it would look like this right?
3        A
2        A
4        A PLAY ON 1ST & 2ND = WINNER
13      A
23      A
13      A  PLAY WAS ON 1ST & 2ND = WINNER

After 2  hits in section A  you win at # 4 . That`s  it . You have  won with a  HIT soooooo now  you RUN. Or wait until another section hits twice again and start all over again.

With this method  of HIT and RUN  you only do that and don`t go any further into a possible  streak.  An entirely different betting method  would apply to  2  dozens  going after streaks.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

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Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: JLP on January 27, 2009, 08:17:52 PM
Hi ND,

A clarification. :o :o
HIT&RUN you consider how many hits the session??
Only 1 or till how many - 3,4 and quit??
I know less play less exposure to bad runs, but which criterion you use?

Cheers, :D
JLP.-
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Nathan Detroit on January 27, 2009, 08:53:15 PM
JLP,

I have it all explained in the Money management section above. The worst that can happen is  losing all  three  scheduled sessions.The best scenario would be  achieving the win goals  for  each of the first two sessions and not schedule  a  third one  to give it all back.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Nathan Detroit on February 05, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
There are occasions when it is  not possible to deploy the hit and run method. Maybe it`s  better to find a place at the table. We  follow the last   number to hit   and then proceed as  outlined  .

However it is  adviseable to  observe  the MOST disciplined  MM rule especially  regarding the LOss limit criteria.


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: MXkid77 on February 05, 2009, 12:10:22 PM
ND, please see the attached excel tracker, let me know if i have the sections set up correctly. If it's correct it will help identify a section double hit with ease. It's preloaded with 10000 single zero spins. I will be uploaded in the members downloads once ND confirms it's correct.
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: JLP on February 05, 2009, 12:40:03 PM
Hi Mxkid77,

Can you do the same xls file for the single zero wheel??
I understand this sheet you made is for the 00 wheel - that is correct??

Cheers, :D
JLP.-
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: MXkid77 on February 05, 2009, 02:37:55 PM
JLP, it can be used for the single wheel aswell, as there will be no 00 showing, i know it is in the section C listing and calculation, but just ignore it.

Dean
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: MXkid77 on February 05, 2009, 04:41:01 PM
Sorry JLP, my bad, just noticed your single zero selection was different. Will make the changes and post it in the morning.
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Marven on February 05, 2009, 06:45:06 PM
Nice one, thanks for sharing Nathan.

I will soon be introducing my new sectors method as well. :)

Cheers,
Marven
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: MXkid77 on February 06, 2009, 08:51:27 AM
Hi JLP, upgrade attached. Sheet 1 = 00 and Sheet 2 = 0
Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Nathan Detroit on February 06, 2009, 11:26:56 AM
Modification tothe hit and  run method:

I  did modify the  idea to ONE hit, this way one  can sit at the table.  .

Yesterday  at the casino  I played one session: 12 spins resulting 7 wins, 3 pushes , and  2 losses.You might begin  to wonder about the  PUSHES.

Whenever the ball  drops into a pocket of section  " C"  then I bet either HIGH or LOW with  one unit and  one  unit on either the first dozen or the last dozen.

Example : ball drops  into  # 8 spot . Bet 1 unit on first dozen  and  1 unit on  19- 36. If I would be  betting  the 1 st and  3rd dozen I would be STRONG  with 12 numbers and  WEAK on  the section A and B . Each with only 6  numbers.

Here comes the strength. Ball  drops into  31 pocket.  Play the  2 nd  and  3 rd dozen:  you will have
10 numbers from the " B " section , 8 numbers  from the   "A"  section and  6 numbers  from the "C" section.

Therefore if you take  a good look at the  contiguous sequence  of   section A and B it will make  sense to you. In addition  you are filling in  the blank spots on each side of the wheel with 3  numbers  of the  C section.


Here are the results from that particular session:

Push ( table had just opened  so started game  without reference.   bet  First  Dozen  and High.)

17 L

13  W

24 W

8 W

33 P

28 W

15 L

9 W

11 W

9 W

34 P

As you can see  it was  quite   choppy and I did not  do badly.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

P.S. I am not doing any spread sheet work. It is my strong belief  to apply common sense  and what can be  done with it. I also don`t believe in gambler`s fallacy that something is  due. But with paying attention to the wheel itself things  can go in your favor . Should they go against you there is  always the option  of getting up and thus  PRESERVING the bankroll for  another attack the next time.

I do schedule 3  sessions  of which I attempt to win 2.  If winning the first 2  sessions it makes  no sense by going into a third  and giving it back.


Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Nathan Detroit on April 26, 2009, 06:27:45 PM
A distinguished  MM method

Knowing  the strong sectors  on the 0/00 wheel:

Therefore if sector  A is  dominating I am betting ONE unit on the first  Dozen and 2 units on the  Second Dozen.

If Sector B is  showing  I  bet  2 units on the  second  dozen and one unit on the 3 rd dozen.

If sector  C is showing  I bet  1 unit on the 2nd  dozen and 1 unit on EACH   dbl street  7-10 and 25 -30.

ONE UNIT  equals  $ 5.00  or  if table minimum permits  $ 1.00. Or for you HOLY** ROLLERS $ 25.00 

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

** Includes prayer.

Title: Re: 2 Dozens bet selections ( Improved Method)
Post by: Nathan Detroit on April 27, 2009, 02:38:02 PM
I have given enough information about this  winninmg system provided one adheres  to the following CRITERIA:

LOSS LIMIT 25  % of the bankroll per sessions.

WIN GOALl  20 %  as long as you guarantee yourself  a minimum of 15-20 % and stop  with the first loss once you have achieved this  amount.

Bankroll   $ 5.00 min table"

3 sessions at $ 200.00 per session for a  total for 3 sessions $ 600.00

Bankroll  $ 1.00 min table  $ 50 .00 per session total $150.00

Bankroll   $ 25.00 min table  $ 1000.00 per session total $ 3,000.00

Attempt to WIN  2 out of 3  sessions.If you Wwin the first two sessions don`t go into a third session.

If the Goddess of good fortune is  with you  during the FIRST session and you achieve  a  combined  win goal of 3 sessions >>>>HEAD FOR THE DOOR!!

If during the course of one session you lose  3 times in a row or  have reached  the loss limit GET UP!!

Don`t even bother running this  through 500 , 1000, or even 10, 000 spins . It will tell you absolutely NOTHING . Just adhere to the above  outlines  and you will be  a winner.

Just for  what it`s  worth I  already did  lose  all 3  sessions in one  afternoon. Then again  there is  nothing to worry about.


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!