SHOW ME WHAT IT TAKE TO WIN...EVEN IF ITS NOT REALISTIC....DONT PUT JUST A BIG GRAPHIC WITHOUT ANY EXPLICATION....
one thing we learn with the sexy martingale is the wheel have no memory....so maybe you can use that to your advantage....play 35 numbers till you have 35 units profits....if one of your two numbers left hit at spin "10" for example...play the 25 spin left with 2 units on your 35 numbers and so on
i've not figured the progression at this point but it look promising...you become the casino....with a little less advantage but progression help you to achieve your goal
help and tester needed
thumbs up if you can play on a no-zero wheel :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Hi Kompressor,
systems based on such "series progression" have generally two results:
1. the linear progression is too weak to break the 2,7% disadvantage and you keep losing anyway, then a stronger progression (like Fibbonaci or Martingale) have to come up, and therefore:
2. the progression is strong enough, but the results start "waving" - usually follow a growing line with huge local downfalls which you can never stand... I'll prepare some chart to make it clear...
Evangelis
Here is the chart for 10.000 spins. The trend remains the same even when testing much more...
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Froulette.euweb.cz%2F35%2520Units%2520system%2520-%2520testing.gif&hash=8083f400916397d0ef7996ae706189dceae9dbb5)
Evangelis
for sure to play on a no-zero wheel double your chance of sucess
but the fact that:
-wheel have no memory 1 chance out of 17 to loose on every spin
combined to
- law of third....average 24 numbers in 36 spins
combined to
-good progression
i want to create a monster.... to fight with the casino...little bit like IBOBA....
Quote from: Evangelis on January 26, 2009, 12:41:53 PM
Here is the chart for 10.000 spins. The trend remains the same even when testing much more...
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Froulette.euweb.cz%2F35%2520Units%2520system%2520-%2520testing.gif&hash=8083f400916397d0ef7996ae706189dceae9dbb5)
Evangelis
are you this good to make this line go up....
everybody know that with an unlimited bankroll and no table limit you can win steady on even chance with a martingale
let make this work for a 1/17 odd bet.....
Most of the systems would be consistently winning, but the table limits make them impossible to succeed. Such a "monster" could be a way to bypass the odds. In most cases it is not possible to beat the odds, as in long run ANY combination of number sequences may happen. But it could be possible to reduce the chance of a terminal loss to the extend that it would not happen in one's lifetime of intensive playing. This might be one of the ways to go, I guess...
Quote from: Evangelis on January 26, 2009, 12:41:53 PM
Here is the chart for 10.000 spins. The trend remains the same even when testing much more...
Evangelis
Hm, that figure looks pretty scary! BTW cheers for the charts, much appreciated!
18/19,000 units down in 10,000 spins? Far from the expected value of -2.7%...
What kind of progression do you use, Evangelis?
Regards,
m
Quote from: mistarlupo on January 26, 2009, 03:01:07 PM
Hm, that figure looks pretty scary!
18/19,000 units down in 10,000 spins? Far from the expected value of -2.7%...
What kind of progression do you use, Evangelis?
Regards,
m
Hello Mistarlupo, the chart really looks scary, just in accordance with what the theory of probability presumes. The profit was about -19.000 units. The total betting was about 550.000 units, so the ratio is about -19/550=-3,4%, which quite approaches the expected -2,7%. I used the system just as described by kompressor: you chose 2 numbers and keep betting 1 unit on the others, winning 1 unit each spin. When one of the 2 numbers is hit and you lose, you increase the bet by 1 unit on each number (so the total bet is 70 units), etc. until you reach 35 spins. Then restart the game from the beginning.
I am sorry Kompressor, I did not mean to destroy your topic. I just tried to test the system you presented here. You asked for a tester, by the way..., so I tried. The results are unfortunate but true, I'm affraid. I used the system exactly as you wrote so I did not find it necessary to repeat the definition here, nor I thought it necessary to write the result of every spin (10.000 spins...), I found the chart to be enough... I do not have any idea how to turn this system profitable right now, but the first thing is to identify the weak points of this system, then we can go on...
Quote from: Evangelis on January 26, 2009, 04:15:57 PM
I am sorry Kompressor, I did not mean to destroy your topic. I just tried to test the system you presented here. You asked for a tester, by the way..., so I tried. The results are unfortunate but true, I'm affraid. I used the system exactly as you wrote so I did not find it necessary to repeat the definition here, nor I thought it necessary to write the result of every spin (10.000 spins...), I found the chart to be enough... I do not have any idea how to turn this system profitable right now, but the first thing is to identify the weak points of this system, then we can go on...
"...i've not figured the progression at this point..."
"...help and tester needed..."
KOMPRESSOR,Good on you mate,at least that someone agrees with me.LIVE GAME+PROGRESSION+NEW DAY/new table,new wheel,new croupiers,new bets/---THATS A WINNING COMBINATION---all those lines,1000000 spins....... ??? when you battle,you must go to the very end,otherwise,the opponent/casino/will soon kill you.Cheers,iboba