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Title: 12 in a row
Post by: kawa4711 on March 09, 2009, 04:06:41 PM
This idea (or some similar idea) I ve read some years ago in a roulette forum.

You notice the first 12 fallen dozens (you can do the same with columns or with both) like this:

1-2-3-2-3-2-3-1-1-2-3-2-

and then you notice them in vertical order:

1
2
3
2
3
2
3
1
1
2
3
2

then you  do the same with the next 12 dozens
par ex.:

2-3-1-2-3-2-3-1-1-2-2-2

then you notice the second 12 dozens in the next row :

first row:   Second row               
                  
1                  2
2                  3
3                  1
2                  2
3                  3
2                  2
3                  3
1                  1
1                  1
2                  2
3                  2
2                  2
   
then you play the next 12 spins against the appearence of  dozen 3 par ex in the first line( 1-2).
In the second line there is dozen 2 dozen 3 you play dozen 2 and dozen 3 against the appearence of zozen 1.

In the 4 th line you have dozen 2 and dozen 2 so you play against dozen 2 its now you play on dozen 1 and dozen 3.

first row:   Second row   Third row Play now                        
1               2               Doz 1 and 2
2               3               Doz 2 and 3
3               1               Doz 1 and 3
2               2               Doz 1 and 3
3               3               Doz 1 and 2
2               2               Doz 1 and 3
3               3               Doz 1 and 2
1               1               Doz 2 and 3
1               1               Doz 2 and 3
2               2               Doz 1 and 3
3               2               Doz 2 and 3
2               2               Doz 1 and 3

After This you play the same way another row of 12 and so on.

Conclusio:
2 different dozens in row 1 and row 2 play this 2 dozens
Only 1 dozen in row 1 and row 2 : play the other 2 dozens
Good luck

kawa4711
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: iboba on March 09, 2009, 04:29:41 PM
Kawa,
What is this,flat bet????
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: VLSroulette on March 09, 2009, 04:34:11 PM
[smiley=dankk2.gif] for posting Kawa, this is an interesting approach for a bet selection, and it makes sense under this logic:

1.1 <- Two singles. Singles outnumber Series at dozens, go for another single, looking for them to "clump", as expected.
3.2 <- Two out of 3 options. This is expected to CONTINUE as hitting 2 out of 3 has the most chances to continue than break. (I.e. see GoodHand's advice on law of the third nolinks://vlsroulette.com/roulette-and-gambling-framework/goodhand's-reflection-on-'law-of-the-third'/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/roulette-and-gambling-framework/goodhand's-reflection-on-'law-of-the-third'/)).

Regards [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]
Victor
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: TwoCatSam on March 09, 2009, 04:46:09 PM
Looks very much like last dozen/jump dozen.
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: kawa4711 on March 09, 2009, 04:52:25 PM
@iboba

you can play it flatbet or with a small progression, I personally like a small progression not a 1-3-9-27- etc.

You should try out some perhaps like after minus 10 to play with 2 units or such way.
Best regrads

kawa4711
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: trylobit on March 09, 2009, 05:14:31 PM
It's a interesting approach, although can you explain why do you think it will work.
I think it's very important to ask this question as there is hundrets of systems, but most of them
are of the base, because all the author does is: idea, initial test.
Really working systems (there is 4 I know) are explained why they should work...
Unfortunatelly I can't see why this system should work long term (meaning not counting on luck).

Best regards;)
Trylobit.
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: kawa4711 on March 09, 2009, 06:13:35 PM
Hi, trylobit, its not my original idea (I ve seen it - or a similar idea-some years ago in a roulette forum),
but I think if you break down the permanence into 12 s rows that it is more difficult for the roulettewheel to produce series like 111 , 222, 333, 123, 231,321 within 3 spins, but its only an idea not mathemicaly proved.

Best regards

kawa4711
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: MattyMattz on March 09, 2009, 08:59:55 PM
My thoughts....

This is just another way to play random vs. random.  It'll work most of the time (since your playing 24 numbers), but it'll still lose enough to bugger you up. 

Again, just my thoughts.

Cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: Klinker on March 13, 2009, 10:52:24 PM
Quote from: kawa4711 on March 09, 2009, 04:06:41 PM
This idea (or some similar idea) I ve read some years ago in a roulette forum.

You notice the first 12 fallen dozens (you can do the same with columns or with both) like this:

1-2-3-2-3-2-3-1-1-2-3-2-

and then you notice them in vertical order:

1
2
3
2
3
2
3
1
1
2
3
2

then you  do the same with the next 12 dozens
par ex.:

2-3-1-2-3-2-3-1-1-2-2-2

then you notice the second 12 dozens in the next row :

first row:   Second row               
                  
1                  2
2                  3
3                  1
2                  2
3                  3
2                  2
3                  3
1                  1
1                  1
2                  2
3                  2
2                  2
   
then you play the next 12 spins against the appearence of  dozen 3 par ex in the first line( 1-2).
In the second line there is dozen 2 dozen 3 you play dozen 2 and dozen 3 against the appearence of zozen 1.

In the 4 th line you have dozen 2 and dozen 2 so you play against dozen 2 its now you play on dozen 1 and dozen 3.

first row:   Second row   Third row Play now                        
1               2               Doz 1 and 2
2               3               Doz 2 and 3
3               1               Doz 1 and 3
2               2               Doz 1 and 3
3               3               Doz 1 and 2
2               2               Doz 1 and 3
3               3               Doz 1 and 2
1               1               Doz 2 and 3
1               1               Doz 2 and 3
2               2               Doz 1 and 3
3               2               Doz 2 and 3
2               2               Doz 1 and 3

After This you play the same way another row of 12 and so on.

Conclusio:
2 different dozens in row 1 and row 2 play this 2 dozens
Only 1 dozen in row 1 and row 2 : play the other 2 dozens
Good luck

kawa4711

Hi Kawa,

What if you get a 0?

Regards,

K1
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: Klinker on March 13, 2009, 11:04:18 PM
My first line had two zero's so i ignored them and my 2nd was ok so i lined them up and did the opposite, when you have 11, 22, or 33 skip a spin and if its 1 3 bet 2.. 2 3 bet 1 or 1 2 bet 3 and on a loss go up 1, 2, 3 ,4, 6 ,9, ect.

Came out like this fisrt go:

1 1
3 1 w +2
3 3
2 3 w +4
1 1
3 3
2 1 w +6
1 2 w +8
3 2 l  +7
3 3
3 1 w +11
1 1

guess its just luck with this  ;)

K1
Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: Lanky on March 14, 2009, 08:19:26 AM
Hi Kawa.

Very interesting Post You have here Mate.

Now if I have this right we really record the 24 spins but in in 2 Rows of 12.

I say interesting because its a form of playing the LD & JD.

The difference is that Your using the the 1st & 13Th spin etc to get Your Bet.(or take the bet from)

LD <> Play the Last two Dozens to come
And the
JD <> jump over the last Dozen that came (or play opposite of the last Dozen that just came)

Like as in Your Example Below
1               2               Doz 1 and 2 <> LD
2               3               Doz 2 and 3 <> LD
3               1               Doz 1 and 3 <> LD
2               2               Doz 1 and 3 <> JD
3               3               Doz 1 and 2 <> JD
2               2               Doz 1 and 3 <> JD
3               3               Doz 1 and 2 <> JD
1               1               Doz 2 and 3 <> JD
1               1               Doz 2 and 3 <> JD
2               2               Doz 1 and 3 <> JD
3               2               Doz 2 and 3 <> LD
2               2               Doz 1 and 3 <> JD

Who Knows Mate You could be onto a good thing Here....Time will tell My Friend.

Maybe seeing that I do all things by hand one of out Friendly Forum members would run this through their RX thingy's and t post the result for us ?.

Hhahhaahha Come on Guys that was a decent Hint...Hint..right there from old Lanky
.

Good On Ya Mates.

Lanky.


Title: Re: 12 in a row
Post by: g-unit on March 15, 2009, 01:03:06 AM
Hello guys,I know i dont really say a lot but so far it seems to be working out nice.I will be trying it live soon ill let everyone know the outcome  ;D