HI
i camne accross this ebook called '600 percent in 6 days' and i read it... its about the law of the third and it plays on the dozen or collumn..
like this .. you look at the last five spins and bet on the dominant dozebn/collumn if its lost you do a progression ::) ... if you loosed 5 times in a row you switch to the new dominant dozen or collumn and keep on with the progression.. and so on...
Has anyone tried this System yet ? if so how did it work...
thnx cheerz
if you want the pdf.. feel free to ask
cheerz
Hi mate
I would like to take a look please.
TSK
HI Spidey ;)
there you go...
Thanks for uploading mate. :thumbsup:
Hi Breeze88
Quoteif you want the pdf.. feel free to ask
Mate I am always interested in Dozens or Columns Play.
Please send your Old mate one by Email.
Thanks Cobber.
Lanky.
Thanks Breeze mate
TSK
Hello Breeze88,
Thanks for the ebook.
Regards
sniper
it looks like its working...i tried with a few random spins(100)
but unless we know why it works,i concider it a luck:)i hope its not only that
Quote from: Breeze88 on March 13, 2009, 09:17:42 PM
HI
I camne accross this ebook called '600 percent in 6 days' and I read it... its about the law of the third and it plays on the dozen or collumn..
like this .. you look at the last five spins and bet on the dominant dozebn/collumn if its lost you do a progression ::) ... if you loosed 5 times in a row you switch to the new dominant dozen or collumn and keep on with the progression.. and so on...
Has anyone tried this System yet ? if so how did it work...
thnx cheerz
if you want the pdf.. feel free to ask
cheerz
Do you think this is gonna work? ;D
Quote from: See_Jerek on March 14, 2009, 05:06:55 PM
Do you think this is gonna work? ;D
Not more then anybody else here ;)
Is anybody else still using this system. I found it on the forum and I can't get it to lose. I changed the progression - it was a bit weird, and so far - happy days.
Ian
what's your progression?
sam
Hi Sam,
The progression given in the original system had you losing money after the fifth bet. The system made money because most of the wins came in bets 1 to 5 - a lot of wins, it recovered well, but it seems daft betting and losing money. So I am using the standard 1 dozen progression - 1,2,3,4,6,9,13,20,30,45, etc. The guy that wrote this says he only uses it online. I am using RNG and its working. To lose it would take 5 sleeps from the dozen that was dominant in the previous 5 spins then another five sleeps from the next dominant dozen then another 5 sleeps from the next dominant dozen then another 5 sleeps from the next dominant dozen. Yes it could happen and probably will. But until then its an easy system. If the previous 5 spins have no dominant dozen you just spin until there is one.
I am happy for someone to shoot this one down if there is a real reason but so far so good.
Ian
I'll give it a shot and get back to you.
Sam
So if my last 5 numbers were ...
14
8
33
36
21
...do I play 2nd dz or 3rd dz?
So far so good
Sam
Same goes for
11
28
32
4
20
1st or 3rd dozen? and does it change if we switch the 4 and the 20?
well so far 200 rng spins and I only went to the 9th step once and the 5th step twice; pretty amazing.
sammo
Sam,
When there is no dominant dozen in the 5 I have tried spinning until a dominant dozen appears. I have also looked at the last 6 or 7 spins. Either way it works. I went to 15 bets once. Your right its seems to be amazing. Its funny how nobody in the previous posts took this up. Maybe they know something we don't.
Ian
I just read this thread 5 minutes ago. I will start testing as soon as I finish writing this post and when I have some results, I will post them here.
Scooby Doo
thanks Scooby Doo,
I'm trying hard not to get too exited about this, but damn. Even if it does eventually lose the win rate is really good.
Even using the progression given by the guy that "invented" this system works.
Ian
So I played for real money, $1 units on the bodog rng. I won $57, never had a drawback, and only got to the 6th step in the progression once. I'll keep at it.
Thing is it takes a $135 BR just to cover 10 steps in the progression. What were you betting at step 15? Sounds pretty scary.
I also watch the EC for five spin sleepers and bet a martingale on those with a limit of 5 steps ($16) while I'm working the dozens.
All the best,
Sam
Hi Sam,
I was playing 0. 50p chips, bet £56 on 15th bet- yea scary and stupid but I was locked into the game. It won though.
Congrats on your winnings. If you or anybody can devise a better progression it would make this system almost perfect. Is there such a progression? - 20 steps that doesn't take you into the stratosphere?
BTW your idea about betting on the ECs is top drawer. I would never have thought about it - thanks.
Have all the progression guru's vanished from this forum- disappeared presumed rich LOL
cheers
Ian
Just 56? Lemme write out the progression:
1,2,3,4,6
9,13,20,30,45
(these are approximate- no calculator)70, 103, 152, 225, 340
even cut in half for your 50p, the 15th bet would be 170, not 56. Or am I confused; is my math off?
Sam
Could someone move this thread to full roulette systems?
Sorry Sam my bad,
I have moved back to the progression given in the download. i. e. 2,3,4,5,6,8,11,15, etc.
and used 0. 50p per chip therefore 1st bet = £1. 00,2nd = £1. 30 etc
So my 15th bet would be 112/2 = 56
It was to reduce the BR and, given that it wins all the time, seemed like a good idea.
You can always go down to 0. 10p per bet - 0. 20p first bet and play for longer - it doesn't seem to care how long you play.
Yes it would be good to move this to full systems
cheers
Ian
I'm stuck in the states with a $1 minimum bet. Alas...
Sam,
"stuck in the States" - you should try living in Scotland mate. 10 months of winter and two months of bad weather.
best regards
Ian
Ian, what do you think are the relative benefits and drawbacks of the two progressions? I haven't tried the original yet.
Well at least Scotland doens't make an ass of itself in international news on a daily basis.
Wishing you sunny and mild,
Sammo
you guys should try the second system in his download where he suggests you play the even chances and double your bet after every loss till you win, then start again. wow that is such an amazingly original sure-fire winning system I just can't get over how cool an idea that is. and if someone is genius enough to come up with an idea like that, then you know their progressive betting system on one dozen must be a winner too.
I guess this is the First Grade Class. Carry on....
Hi Sammo, the original progression isn't as steep but if you go past 6 spins you are playing catch up but you seem to get a lot of wins on spins 1,2, and 3 so you always (so far ) catch up. The other progression means you are always winning but your BR needs to be bigger. Tried the system on another site- won £55 in about 20 minutes using the original progression 0.50p chips - I don't think the RNG knew what hit it LOL.
Simon - I don't know why the guy threw the second system in. But have you tried the first system? It works better than most of the "record 200 spins, go forward three ,go back six then turn around three times and spit" systems. Thats why we restarted this thread - its a good system i.e. it makes money - everyday.
Your post did make me laugh BTW - thanks
cheers sammo
Ian
Quote from: Broon on November 16, 2010, 06:36:03 AM
Simon - I don't know why the guy threw the second system in. But have you tried the first system?
................ no, I haven't, maybe I should
Quote from: Broon on November 16, 2010, 06:36:03 AM
It works better than most of the "record 200 spins, go forward three ,go back six then turn around three times and spit" systems.
.................. well that system was actually working pretty good for me till I got asked to leave for spitting. oh well....
Really funny Simon - great imagery - being frog-marched to the Casino door by security who are wearing gum boots and raincoats LOL.
I would appreciate it if you would try this system. I'm not defending it - its not mine.
I know it goes against the purists - its a system that someone was selling (gasp), it works on RNG (groan), it uses a progression (oh no), it doesn't need a degree in quantum mechanics (faint). LOL
Ian
Simon,
Thanks for sharing your spreadsheet. I take it from what you said that you're not interested in having us test your system. I understand. But if you have a change of heart, I'm always looking for a good flat betting system.
Sam
Ok Simon, I think I've caught the idea. I'll play with it a little on a practice RNG (this method should be better with RNG I think). Your thorough analysis is impressive and quite beyond me, but I think I see what you mean about knowing when to exit and begin again. Great idea.
Sam
Wow. Really cool. I like this strategy. It's definitely all about knowing when to start and stop betting.
Have you looked into no longer betting on numbers that have already spun 2 or 3 times?
I'm also wondering about waiting for the first repeat to start betting.
Good luck,
Sam
I have yet to sit down and study the spreadsheets, but in the meantime I'm still practicing with the method. I suspect that waiting ten spins and then betting on the past ten will be better, since it's so rare for there to be a hit in the first ten, and it would take two hits to be in profit anyway. I played last night until only 6 numbers were left, then switched to playing dozens while betting one unit on each of the six sleepers. At one point I was down 180(much earlier in the session), but I ended up with a profit of 115. It was probably a total of 200 spins, and I stopped when all numbers had hit at least once.
Sam
Simon,
I just spent some time with the spreadsheet and realized that you have already figured out the betting after the first ten numbers thing. Sorry to be redundant.
Just played another RNG session. PLayed until 6 numbers remained (I was at +50 at that point), then bet on the 6 unhit numbers until only 2 were left, then bet 2 units each on those until they hit. I ended up at +185.
PS On this session I would have made an extra 100 or so if I had bet on the first ten numbers. Oh well.
Played again to the bitter end, up +187. Good that I skipped the first ten on this one.
Sam
Simon,
Are you still running spreadsheets on this? Have you decided when to stop?
Sam
Well it's still working out really well for me. I'm keeping it secret because I assume this is what you want, but it would be good to have more testers and input, don't you think?
Way to go, Simon. That dozens system was working, but I didn't trust it completely. I'm playing your system and Kingspin's lucky horse shoe right now. I'm betting after ten, but still haven't decided when to stop. So far I just stop whenever I'm up 50 units.
Sam
It has worked so far.
But I've also been toying around with it, sometimes taking it almost all the way and then betting the sleepers.
there are many good reasons to bet what has hit, not what has not hit. when I first started playing roulette years ago I used to play what had not hit. now I know this is the completely wrong way to play. that is my opinion anyway. good luck. (I take it you are not playing real wheels and betting real money, but playing some sort of electronic fun mode type of game-- which is a quite different situation from the real thing.)
I'm doing play money RNG as well as real money RNG.
I'm experimenting lately with just waiting for ten numbers without a repeat, then betting a progression until a hit, then waiting for ten w/o a repeat again. So far it's so-so.
that would be a completely wrong way to play. you have a lot to learn. good luck.
I'm just experimenting a bit, that's all. I have yet to find a failsafe way to flat bet the system.
I don't understand any of this at all. Can someone post a simplified 'Dummies' guide stating the exact rules to follow? You don't have to explain any theory just give a list of rules to follow. Also any updates from anyone still using this way of playing is welcome
Foreverbob's rpt numbers thread is basically talking about the same thing.
Sam
is any one using this system still and is it still working ?