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Title: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: VLSroulette on March 08, 2009, 04:34:01 PM
Dear Chris,

I invite you to enclose Diodoro's lines within [disc][/disc] tags. Comma-separated (I.e. [disc]1,2,3,4...[/disc])

One disc tag for each of Diodoro's "lines" (A then B) :)

Victor
Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: RPro75 on March 14, 2009, 02:59:41 PM
Quote from: VLSroulette on March 08, 2009, 04:34:01 PM
Dear Chris,

I invite you to enclose Diodoro's lines within [disc][/disc] tags. Comma-separated (I.e. [disc]1,2,3,4...[/disc])

One disc tag for each of Diodoro's "lines" (A then B) :)

Victor
Here are Diodoro's lines, although I have modified it a bit.

Line A:1,2,4,5,9,14,15,16,17,19,20,21,24,25,31,32,33,34 
Line B: 3,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,18,22,23,26,27,28,29,30,35,36

Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: VLSroulette on March 14, 2009, 04:45:01 PM
Quote from: RPro75 on March 14, 2009, 02:59:41 PM
Line A:1,2,4,5,9,14,15,16,17,19,20,21,24,25,31,32,33,34 
Line B: 3,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,18,22,23,26,27,28,29,30,35,36

Thanks for your response Chris.

I appreciate it, just follow instructions closely, try it like:

Line A:
[disc]1,2,4,5,9,14,15,16,17,19,20,21,24,25,31,32,33,34[/disc]

Line B:
[disc]3,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,18,22,23,26,27,28,29,30,35,36[/disc]


I want you to do it for a reason... Please do post it enclosed like that! I do not want to have all of the "fun" for myself ;)

Your friend,
Victor
Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: bali96 on March 15, 2009, 10:10:52 AM
Hi Victor

Not sure what I was doing wrong but I have it now thanks to your link. Cheers mate for your help ::)

Kind regards
Bali96
Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: VLSroulette on March 15, 2009, 10:21:56 AM
Mate fellow excellent programmer BJB did leave some corrupted files around the system, but hey, everyone's entitled to have the odd happening every now and then, right?  :). I know he kindly re-uploaded but I guess he just forgot to remove the oldies. Not a biggie.

I guess I have to manually clean corrupted/partially uploaded files from download system... Yet another task for the "to do" list! (Which is okay, it comes with the admin title).

Anyway, I'm glad you could get your hands on a copy of the good one.

Cheers.

Your friend,
Victor
Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: bali96 on March 15, 2009, 10:34:30 AM
Thanks again Victor

Bali
Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: VLSroulette on March 15, 2009, 07:01:18 PM
Anyone! Please do:

Line A:
[disc]1,2,4,5,9,14,15,16,17,19,20,21,24,25,31,32,33,34[/disc]

Line B:
[disc]3,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,18,22,23,26,27,28,29,30,35,36[/disc]


We can start drawing some interesting conclusions which may lead to another tweak. C'mon, no gist on me using all the features :)

I'm sure after using the tags you'll see it in a snap where I what to get [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] Perphaps even get ahead on my brainstorming on it? ANYONE?
Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: MattyMattz on March 15, 2009, 07:06:50 PM
Here you go Vic...

Line A:
[disc]1,2,4,5,9,14,15,16,17,19,20,21,24,25,31,32,33,34[/disc]

Line B:
[disc]3,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,18,22,23,26,27,28,29,30,35,36[/disc]

Cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: VLSroulette on March 15, 2009, 07:11:40 PM
Okay, so what do we get from the results of using forum's [disc] tag? You can get it in 1 second!

We have Diodoro's disc-based pattern for generating his "lines"... and now what can we do with it? How can we use this knowledge to our advantage for ALWAYS having betting conditions?

Pass the ball on you guys as I'm going to the casino for today's session. When I'm back let's see what we as a group can develop on this! An "Advanced Diodoro" version may arise from our exchanges! :thumbsup:

Regards,
Victor
Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: MattyMattz on March 15, 2009, 07:16:39 PM
I see 4 9number sectors... or 2 18number sectors... is that what your pointing out?

Title: Re: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: VLSroulette on March 15, 2009, 07:26:09 PM
Matty, my mate, please re-read post above! I made it more than a 1-liner.

Anyone else care to share ideas on how to expand betting opportunities? We already got a piece of Diodoro's mind when creating his system exposed ;)

Among all of us, we can develop this further and create a tracking form for an "Advanced Diodoro"...

Remember, having a way to explain why something works the way it does is paramount to develop further on it.
Victor
Title: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: MATTJONO on March 16, 2009, 08:36:10 AM
im trying to understand how we could use these lines A , B.  so we can find a consisant bet.

maybe tracking the lines as two sets of results with 18numbrs in each. when a line A has hit 12 times, we now have around 7-12 unhit numbers from line A.

same with LINE B.

and when there are only 3 unhit numbers from a LINE  we retrack the numbers for that line (section).

........... maybe these ideas are wrong but we dont want to give victor all the fun lol.


or maybe when we pick our unhit numbers to bet we look at LINE A, LINE B to maybe use the unhit numbers from the one with most unhit numbers.

.........lol   i bet im well off what these LINES can do for us.


any clues victor  ;) i had a try lol



mattjono

Title: Re: Diodoro - Creating an Advanced Version
Post by: VLSroulette on March 16, 2009, 10:38:14 AM
Thanks for the post Six. I agree with you.

Quoteany clues victor

First thanks for your Try Matt.

Like Six mentions:

"Anything that is motionless clearly has no dynamics, meaning that in Diodoro's system precise conditions have to be met before we can bet."

This is where we have to get, expanding betting opportunities by monitoring many conditions. "Advanced Diodoro" necessarily has to be a Dynamic approach. Which means we know already what was into Diodoro's mind for arranging his lines, then we can create several lines based on them. Like Six points, the wheel doesn't know about the framework used to track it.

This is a physical-statistical system which has merit for creativity, now it is our duty as roulette system researchers to expand it. I would label my ideas on these lines:

We would need to create all 37 sets of two lines, assign a point-based system to them and do filtering. Doing that via software can be done automatically. Every 24-spin window can present betting opportunities tracking that many lines, then turning it into a dynamic and continual diodoro!

Now this is part of the thread is moved to brainstorming section, let's brainstorm where the real challenge is: creating a point-based system to make this workable at the casino.