This is one of my favourite systems. Victor introduced us to the zone of 3 a while ago, It is totally disc based, and I will step through some numbers as an example:
After these numbers, 12 21 17 3, the wheel looks like this:
[disc]12,21,17,3[/disc]
The first bet is 35. Which forms a zone of 3 between 12 and 3. Each bet stays a bet every spin until it is hit.
The next few number were, 5 1 28.
[disc]12,21,17,3,5,1,28[/disc]
So now 7 becomes a bet.
The next number was 2.
[disc]12,21,17,3,5,1,28,2[/disc]
So 4 and 25 become bets as well. So I am now betting 35 7 4 and 25 each spin.
The next numbers were 28 8 8 19 0
[disc]12,21,17,3,5,1,28,2,8,19,0[/disc]
So 26 becomes a bet as well. So each spin I am now betting 35 7 4 25 and 26 each spin. As you can see, we place whatever bets we need to to form 3 in a row.
The next number was 26.
[disc]12,21,17,3,5,1,28,2,8,19,0,26[/disc]
Which gives a profit of 6 units.
I either flat bet this, or use a positive progression, once a number is hit, add 1 unit to all bets.
Good luck!
Hello Lohnro,
Thanks for your system. It looks interesting. By the way, do we reset after a hit?
Regards
sniper
hi lohnro,
i like this system alot.and i have to say you have done a good job in explaining it.
thanks alot and i will take a look at this, as the amount of numbers we would be betting on for this system seems to be around a 3 to 6 number bet most of the time, i think it will be rare for us to be betting on lets say 8 or more numbers, and another good thing about this system is that we are betting unhit numbers from sections of the wheel that are hot, to make a ZONE OF 3.
cheers to you again lohnro. :thumbsup:
mattjono
wel that was easy.
14
7
32
28 12,29
14 -2 12,29
8 -2 12,29
22 -2 12,29
36 -2 12,29
21 -2 12,29
1 -2 12,20,29
17 -3 12,20,29
31 -3 9,12,20,29
0 -4 9,12,20,29
2 -4 4,9,12,20,25,29
25 +32
session 1 15spins///// profit/loss +6units//// total numbers bet at 1 spin = 6.
these where the following spins after the session above.
2
25
32 start tracking again
7
26 0
35 -1 0,3
23 -2 0,3
11 -2 0,3,10
5 -3 0,3,10
3 +33
session 2 8spins///// profit/loss +25units//// total numbers bet at 1 spin = 3.
nice :thumbsup:
mattjono
Back in the day when a lot of time went into this, I'm not sure if we ever saw a 37 spin cycle go without a Zone of 3 forming...
Quote from: sniper on April 03, 2009, 08:29:40 AM
Hello Lohnro,
Thanks for your system. It looks interesting. By the way, do we reset after a hit?
Regards
sniper
Hey Sniper
You can play it how ever you want. I normally keep playing, but "most" of the time your 1st hit see's you in profit, so that is not a bad time to quit! :thumbsup:
If you keep betting, the key is knowing when to quit. If I am flat betting and have a couple of early hits, I make sure I don't fall below 40-50 units. And if things are going well, the sky is the limit. But if I am having a bad run I either stop at -100 or if things seem to stay below 0, I am happy to take a loss of -50 - -40 units.
Quote from: MATTJONO on April 03, 2009, 09:55:52 AMthanks alot and I will take a look at this, as the amount of numbers we would be betting on for this system seems to be around a 3 to 6 number bet most of the time, I think it will be rare for us to be betting on lets say 8 or more numbers,
Hi MATTJONO
If you keep betting after a hit, you could be betting up to 11-12 numbers which gets a bit hectic. If you want to bet less numbers, concentrate on 1/2 of the wheel only.
Nice test results mate!
Hi Lohnro,
Time ago I posted a system similar to this on the Spanish section of the Forum, taken from an Italian article.I will translate here from the original Italian but with an example - The system is called Law of the Third applied to the Sectors of the Disk :
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Spins
8
20
6
6
34
9
11
12
2
1
0
2
22
12
6
18
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After the 16 spins that we mark in a roulette disk graph we have the following :
12 0 2 8 11 -----> 5 isolated numbers
34-6 1-20 -----> 2 duos (close)
9 22 18 ---- > 1 trio
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The following 3 spins:
27
17
24
Here a Quartet is formed (4 numbers close)
17 34 6 27
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The following 6 spins :
8
18
11
22
6
18
Here it produces a 6th double repetition of the previous numbers.
When this happens the author establish that in the next 12 spins the duos becomes in trios, the trios in quartets and this lasts in quintets (that is conforms good conditions - it works as a control level).
This 6th homogeneous repetition and consecutive the author says is a good value of control or good indicator for that in the next 12 spins it can be formed figures of superior value to the ones we have already.
Then the author bets on the following numbers :
14 & 33 to form trios
31 & 29 to form quartet
25 & 13 to form quintet or sixteth
13 14 25 29 31 33
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The following 12 numbers :
19
9
13
14
7
5
33
36
26
1
11
35
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Cheers, ;) :D
JLP.-
Thanks JLP, :thumbsup: there is a heap of variations, I will check this one out.
Hey,
Here´s another test from Dublinbet :
Test Dublinbet
0
10
35
3
13
22
26
22
24
0
25
10
25
8
23
17
32
2
3
10
20
1
1
29
First 24 spins
Between spin 19 and 24 some repetitions happen (3 on 6 - is not so many as the author states in relation to the consecutive homogeneous repetition, but we will see .......).That spins are marked in color red in the graph to diferentiate from the previous ones.
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Then the numbers to bet are:
15.12.14.33.34.21.5.30
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0
5 W
30 W
24
32
18
20
32
36
33 W
29
I repeat here what I posted in the previous post:
According to what the author comment this method we use it in principle when this conditions he mentions are done (Homogeneous Consecutive Repetition as sign of control).Is good to take it present when we make the track and to see if this happens.I don´t think this occurs very frequently for the deviations that can occur in the game, then the conditions to enter the game would be less.We would have to determine an aproximate range of those repeats (maybe between 4 and 6 I think as sign of control to be good).
But only making tests this only can be assured.
JLP.-
Here comes Trylobit and his testing :P
I've tested it a little bit (almost 400 spins, live wheel).
It works quite nicely.
I record the numbers and bet the qualified numbers when there is no zone of 3 within last 12 numbers.
The longest I waited for a hit was 13 spins (counting from the first bet).
But it was quite strange case. There was every second number qualified in part of the wheel. So most of the numbers were black... And there was long row of red numbers... I think a bankroll of 1600 and a table limit 1-45 would do the job (I counted this based on one more loss then I had max).
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Here are my stats.
How long I wait for numbers to hit.
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Good work guys,
Just remember you should NOT go "all in" (as in a 1 hit recoups all, explosive progression) on Zone of 3 because:
a) There ARE 37-spin cycles which do not see the formation of any zone of 3.
b) Progression may get way too huge, as a fair, how about zone of 3 forming at spin #34, with an increasing amount of number bet to recoup deficit, say start with 2 numbers at spin 8 and end up a 14-number bet when finally a hit arrives at spin #34? It simply doesn't fit.
This is basically a get-in, use your statistical attack zone, get out.
Test it completely and do as Lohnro states, +1 on a win, expecting a concentration of hits (several successful zones within a profitable range) to make up for losses instead of thinking "it can't go past XYZ spins without hitting".
Good thing about the wheel is it is confined to either repeat OR make zones. There's no harm in trying to synchronize on this unavoidable fact.
Regards,
Victor
So what kind of progression would you suggest Victor?
I'm against the progression as well.
The systems I play are based on flat bets or positive progression, but I can't see it could be applied here.
Any suggestions anyone?
^^Ah the little ray of sunshine!^^
Quote from: trylobit on April 06, 2009, 01:58:16 PM
So what kind of progression would you suggest Victor?
Soft progression, it can be ATILA,
it can be an inter-cycle progression too.
Main point is to avoid adding more and more and more to an explosive progression... using the "
it can't go past XYZ spin without a hit" mentality (because it can and it WILL).
An inter-cycle progression is one when you use a fixed unit size at a certain cycle (flat bet with this unit), and only rise after an unsuccessful cycle, and use 2 units for the whole length of the new one.
If still on a loss, use 3 units for the whole new cycle and so on.
An amount of early hits with a risen unit OR several zones formed within the cycle can enable you to bail out of it as soon as you are up.
Of course,
be always conscious. If you are using -say- 5 units and have a hit that leaves you at -46 units, by all means go back to 2. (36 x 2 = 72, it is covered, no need to keep the unit risen and assume a larger risk).
Also, if you have a hit -28 units, by all means go back to 1 unit. A conscious progressive scheme is simply like this, incrementing little per failed cycle (+1) and
decrementing the unit to the very minimum needed to come out ahead in profit with the less exposure in chips.
Kind regards,
Victor