I'm slowly getting off of playing furthest back and instead playing more of......finding furthest back of "whatever", WAITING until it hits, start long progression. I'll be playing the street method of this at the casino today.
Locate furthest back unhit street. That street must NOT of hit for at least the last 25 spins. Then wait until it does hit. That could be one spin or even 20 more spins. After it does hit, I then start progression on it using nickels of course. All the while writing down ALL numbers so I can use them for future betting.
After I get my win, look at numbers written down, start over. As some of you know, after I lose, I stick around for a while looking at the numbers. Too many times I notice, AFTER my number(s) comes up (I already lost), it hits again WITHIN the steps of the progression.
There are 12 SOLID streets on the layout. The thinking is......I like my chances of the SAME street NOT being a sleeper back to back! Could it happen? Well of course, anything can happen. I'm looking forward to the challenge today. Ken
I know you don't want to hear this. But it makes absolutely no difference what bet selection you use. You would be just as well off choosing a random number every session.
Well then no methods should be played because....its all random....anything can happen. Ken
A question as well. Why am I UP after tweaking methods over years as opposed to losing, losing in the beginning of my roulette years?? If its ALL THE SAME, then that would mean, a guy in his first year playing roulette should be doing NO BETTER, NO WORSE than his 15th year of playing? "Its all the same, random", correct? Ken
You could wait at the table rest of the night,maybe if you lucky, next night until it hits again.Take me for instance. I wake up,turn over and go to sleep again...................................Iboba 8)
It is an interesting point I made in terms of methods being posted. Well, nothing should be posted. Why? Anything can happen, you could lose. What a goofy reason not to play a method.....you could lose and BTW, your number might not hit. Really? lol Ken
Mr.J,
I am only talking about my bad experience with street.......54 spins street+line 9 numb. did not hit=lost;stil recovering.As you said nothing is impossible in roulette......................Iboba 8)
Ken,
I'm currently testing a similar idea using wakers and having good results. Waiting for a group to sleep a long time, then wake up... planning that it won't sleep again.
Matt
"I am only talking about my bad experience with street.......54 spins street+line 9 numb. did not hit" ---- Ok but I'm saying, AFTER it did hit, how many more spins until the street hit AGAIN? Thats my gig. @Matt >> Just got home from playing the above. Did quite well, NET $460. Its not much but I'll take it bro. Ken
ken,
A few yrs ago, I was playing Jerry Adams method(scam..didn't know better).I was at a table playing the most overdue street 13-14-15. It didn't show up on the board so I played it. After 20 spins. I stopped. I then started to do my own thing, but all the while watched 13-14-15. As I was leaving I noticed after 72 spins that street still had not hit. I know you're doing it different, but that was my newbie experience and the last of Jerry Adams Retirement Roulette system or should I say BAnkrupt roulette system.
cd
Ken,
have been playing this waker method for only a week now but am already up 1400+ units, and that's including a loss in the progression (only 10 steps mind you). That and I'm playing 9 numbers, not 3.
Keep up the wins.
MM
"As I was leaving I noticed after 72 spins that street still had not hit. I know you're doing it different" --- I understand. When that street did eventually hit, I just need it to hit one more time after that in 42 spins. Ken
seems that playing wakers is the future. :thumbsup:
maybe rules like this could be the start for me to do some testing.
we bet on;
all street (e.g 1,2,3) that have hit AFTER a sleep of 24 spins or more.
all double streets (e.g 10,11,12,13,14,15) that have hit 2 times AFTER a sleep of 12 spins or more.
all colums/dozens that have appeared less than 8 times in 36 spins or more. we bet only on this colum/dozen if it hits 5 times or more in 12 spins.
hope you understand.
cheers,
mattjono
"all street (e.g 1,2,3) that have hit AFTER a sleep of 24 spins or more." --- Just my opinion. I would take (only one street) the FURTHEST back (not ALL) unhit street combined with, it must not of hit within 24-26 spins. Then wait untill it hits, then start long progression all the while jotting down ALL hit numbers for future use. Only my two cents buddy. Of course you'll still get the nay-sayers, "but it still might not hit" 8) Ken
Ken,
check this out. where I play occasionally I go into the high limit room. There is a guy who comes in with about 10k. He surrounds the 7-8, 28, 29 -30 and 17-18-20 $25 & $100 chips. He plays about 3k a spin. he plays only 2 spins, if he loses both he goes. if he wins he stays for a few more spins. I've seen him lose 7k in 2 spins. Thinks nothing of it and says see you later. So I go into the casino on a sat night and the dealer said to me "Mike" was here last night. He hit his number 29 for over $21,000. he let it ride and hit a repeater. I paid out over $42,000 for 2 spins. it's the most I ever paid out in 2 spins. Roulette can be a beautiful thing. that win probably kept Mike from hanging himself.lol
CD
all i can say is "wow"
@clothdog >>> very nice! Brass balls on that guy. :-X Ken
I've programmed this system for RXtreme. The only difference is it does not use a progression, it flat bets.
You can download it here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=409 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=409)
I'll be adding progression soon....when I have I'll update it.
Quote from: Clothdog on April 08, 2009, 11:59:02 PM
Ken,
check this out. where I play occasionally I go into the high limit room. There is a guy who comes in with about 10k. He surrounds the 7-8, 28, 29 -30 and 17-18-20 $25 & $100 chips. He plays about 3k a spin. he plays only 2 spins, if he loses both he goes. if he wins he stays for a few more spins. I've seen him lose 7k in 2 spins. Thinks nothing of it and says see you later. So I go into the casino on a sat night and the dealer said to me "Mike" was here last night. He hit his number 29 for over $21,000. he let it ride and hit a repeater. I paid out over $42,000 for 2 spins. it's the most I ever paid out in 2 spins. Roulette can be a beautiful thing. that win probably kept Mike from hanging himself.lol
CD
LOL!!!!!
Cheers
I posted this on April 7th and in my opinion, is still a *GREAT* point/question!! >>> "Why am I UP after tweaking methods over years as opposed to losing, losing in the beginning of my roulette years?? If its ALL THE SAME, then that would mean, a guy in his first year playing roulette should be doing NO BETTER, NO WORSE than his 15th year of playing? "Its all the same, random", correct?" Ken
Hello Mr J. Your system seems to match my ( limited ) experience. I agree that non recurring sleepers seems to be the norm. Just a couple of basic questions: what progression you use on the streets? What other bets do you follow and how?
thanks
"What other bets do you follow and how?" >>> I dont understand the question? Progression to follow in a couple minutes. Ken
Street progression, 1-42, $2,980 on a loss. Using nickels of course. >>> 1-7 $10, 8-11 $15, 12-14 $20, 15-16 $25, 17-18 $30, 19-20 $35, 21 $40, 22 $45, 23 $50, 24 $55, 25 $60, 26 $65, 27 $70, 28 $75, 29 $80, 30 $90, 31 $100, 32 $105, 33 $115, 34 $125, 35 $140, 36 $150, 37 $165, 38 $180, 39 $195, 40 $215, 41 $235 and 42 $255. Ken
Quote from: Mr J link=topic=7537. msg72905#msg72905 date=1250085522
"What other bets do you follow and how?" >>> I dont understand the question? Progression to follow in a couple minutes. Ken
Sorry, it wasn't clearly worded. I meant what other sleeper bets, as in sleeper dozens, sleeper double streets, etc. if any. I don't mid waiting half an hour for an opportunity, but if I can hit them all, all the best.
Thanks for the quick answer on the progression.
I NEVER bet more than 4 numbers. 2-3 are my favorite.
Ken