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Title: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 11, 2008, 10:01:37 AM
[highlight]Here i will introduce you to a March based upon DBL that carefully will Grinding out a Profit. [/highlight]


Now this is a sharing forum where we discuss things so feel free to jump in to contribute whit improvements or new ideas.

Here is the patterns we will use whit The March.

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[highlight]The March will produce a permanence of Win / Loss Strikes, from where we are going to grinding out a profit.[/highlight]

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Now i will run a short example TRNGs so you can see how we gathering the permanence of Win / Loss Strikes. This permanence will be the key to the solution from where we are going to get a bet selection, a qualified signal, a Entering Point to begin a session.

 
  2
1
  2      W
1
1
  2      L
  2      L
  2
1
1
  2      L
1      W
  2
  2
  2      W
  2
1
1
  2      L
1      W
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
1
  2
1
  2
  2
  2      W
1
1
  2      L
1      W
1
  2      L
1      W
  2
  2
  2      W
1
1
1      W
1
1
  2
1
  2      W
1
1
  2      L
1      W
  2
1
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
  2
1
  2
  2      L
  2      W
1
  2
1      W
1
1
  2
1
  2      W
  2
  2
1
  2
1      W
1
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
1
1      W
1
  2
1
1      L
  2      L
1
1
  2      L
1      W
  2
1
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
  2
  2
1
1
  2      L
  2      L
1
1
  2      L
1      W
1
1
  2
  2
  2      W
  2
1
  2
  2      L
1      L
  2
  2
  2      W
  2
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
  2      L
1      L
  2
  2
  2      W
1
1
1      W
1
1
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
  2
  2
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
1
1      W
1
1
  2
1
  2      W
  2
  2
1
  2
  2      L
  2      W
1
1
1      W
1
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
  2
1
1
1      W
1
1
1
  2
1
  2      W
1
1
1      W
1
  2
1
1      L
  2      L
  2
1
1
1      W
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
1
1
1      W
  2
  2
  2      W
  2
  2
1
1
  2      L
1      W
  2
  2
1      L
1      L
1      
1
  2
  2
  2      W
1
1
  2      L
1      W
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
1
1
1      W
  2
1
  2      W
1
  2
  2
  2      W
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
1
  2      L
  2      L
1
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
1
1
  2      L
1      W
  2
1
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
1
1
  2      L
  2      L
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
1      W
  2
  2
1      L
  2      W
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
1
  2      L
1      W
  2
  2
  2      W
1
  2
  2      L
  2      W


[highlight]The target to begin a session should be based upon disapparation / concentration of events. I will base the following bet selections on the Law of Correction. We are going to have a Win target. Loss limit. Bankroll. Fund and Money Management.[/highlight]

Here is the result using a simple bet selection. 4 series of 2 for DBL or 8 singels for FTL Starting the tracking after a virtual win. Loss limit 4.

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WWLWWWLWWLLWLLLWZWWLWWWLLWWLWWLWLZWLWWLLWLWWLWWWWLWLWWWWWWWLWLLLL
                                                                               
WLWWLLLWLLLWWLWWLLWWWWLWLWWLWWWWLLWWLWWWWWLLWLWLWLWLLLL
                                                                               
LWLLWLLWWLWWWLLLWLWWLWLZLWLLLWLWLWLWWLLLWWLLLL
                                                                                        
LWWWLLZWLLWWLWWLWWLLLWWLLWWLLLL
                                                           
WLLLL
                                                                                                                  
WLLLWWLLLWWWLLLL
 
LWWWLWWLLWWLWWLWWWLWWWWLLLWLWLLWLWLLLWWWLWWWLLWLLLL
                       
LLWWLWLWWWLLLWLWWLWLWWLLLL
 
LWZWWWWLWLLWZWLLLL
         
LWWWWLLWWLWWWWWWLLLL
     
LWWWLWWWLWWLLLL
           
WLWWWWWLLLWLWLLWWWLWWWLWWLLLL
         
WWLWWWWWWLWLLWWLLWLLLL
           
LWWLWWLLLWWLLWWLLWLWLWWZLWWLWLWWWWLWWWLWLWLLLL
       
LWWLWWWWWWLLWWLWLLWWLLLWWWLWWWLLLL

LLLWWLLWLWWWWLLWWLLWLWLWWLLWWWLLWWWWWLLLWLLWWLWWWLWLLLWLWWWLLWLWLWLLLWLLLWWLWLLLL
 
LLWLLWLLLWLWWLLLWLWWWWLLLWLLWLWLLWLWLLLL
 
WWWWLLWLWLWWLWLWWLWLLLL
     
LLWWWWLLWLLWWLWLLWWWWLWLWWLWLWLWLWWWWWWWLLLL
 
LLWWWLLWWLWWWLWWWLLWWLWWWWWWLWWWLLWLWWLWLWLLLWWWWWWLLWWLWWLLLWLWWWLLWLLWWLWWWWLWLLLL

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Title: Re: Under construction...
Post by: lucky_strike on March 12, 2008, 05:40:33 AM
[highlight]How to procide and use The March, The Tracking. [/highlight]

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[highlight]There is one Rule.[/highlight]

The rule is that the next indication is valid if it comes after a switch not if its a part of the previous indication.

Now The March has one rule regarding how to find and when to use the indications. Lets say you get 1 serie of 2  RR and the first decision lost and the second decision wins it would look like this.

R
R
B L
R W
B
R
B
B

Now after the win the pattern continue to alternating, so you now have to wait for a serie of 2, BB or RR.

Now lets take a look at 1 serie of 2 singels BR.


R
R
R
B
R
B W
B
B

R
R


Now after the win we get a seire of 3. We don't track or play. We wait for a switch before we use a new indication to be valid. Above it would be the serie of 2 reds at the end.

Title: Re: Under construction...
Post by: lucky_strike on March 12, 2008, 05:42:00 AM

LLLWWWWLLLWLWWLLLWLWLWWLWLLWWLLLWWLWWWLWLWWWWLLLL

  2
  2      
  2      
1....---
1
  2      
  2      
1
1
  2      
  2 ---
1
  2
  2      
  2 W virtual win begin tracking      
1
  2
  2 L      
1....L
  2
  2
1....L
  2 W
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
1....W
  2
  2
  2 W
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
1....W
1
1
1
  2
1
1....L
  2 L
  2
  2
  2
1
1
  2 L
1....W
  2
  2
1....L
  2 W
1
  2
  2
  2 W
  2
1
  2
  2 L
1....L
  2
1
1....L
1....W
  2
1
1....L
1....W
1
  2
1
1....L
1....W
1
  2
1
  2 W
  2
1
  2
  2 L
  2 W
1
  2
  2 L
1....L
  2
1
  2
  2
  2 W
1
1
1....W
  2
1
1....L
  2 L
1
  2
  2
1....L
  2 W
  2
1
  2
1....W
  2
  2
1....L
  2 W
  2
  2
1
  2
1....W
1
  2
1
  2 W
  2
1
1
  2 L
1....W
1
  2
  2
1....L
  2 W
1
1
1....W
1
  2
1
  2 W
1
  2
  2
  2 W
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
  2 L
1....L
  2
  2
1....L
1....L
1
1
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 12, 2008, 07:00:40 AM
[highlight]Lets say your bankroll is 60 euro. Your win target is 40 or above. The progression is 112. You begin the play and continue until you have rich 40, your win target.[/highlight]

You start to play after one fictive loss.
If you win the first bet you continue to play until a loss. If you don't win at the first attempt you start over and wait for a fictive loss.


Here is session 1 Profit 40

W
W
L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
L 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40 euro
L 1 +3
L 1 +2
W 1 +3
L
L 1 +2
L 1 +1
W 2 +3
Z
W
W
L
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
W 1 +6
L 1 +5
L 1 +4
W 1 +5
W
L
W 1 +6
W 1 +7
L 1 +6
W 1 +7
L 1 +6
Z
W
L
W 1 +7
W 1 +8
L 1 +7
L 1 +6
W 1 +7
L
W 1 +8
W 1 +9
L 1 +8
W
W
W
W
L
W 1 +9
L 1 +8
W
W
W
W
W
W
W
L
W 1 +9
L 1 +8
L 1 +7
L 1 +6
L 2 +4
 
Here is session 2 Profit 40
                                                                               
W
L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
L 1 +1
L 1  0
L 1 -1
W 2 +1
L
L 1  0
L 1 -1
W 2 +1
W
L
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
L 1 +2
L 1 +1
W 1 +2
W
W
W
L
W 1 +3
L 1 +2
W
W
L
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40 eruo
W 1 +5
W 1 +6
L 1 +5
L 1 +4
W 1 +5
W
L
W 1 +6
W 1 +7
W 1 +8
W 1 +9
W 1 +10
L 1 +11
L 1 +10
W 1 +11
L
W 1 +12
L 1 +11
W 1 +12
L
W 1 +13
L 1 +12
L 1 +11
L 1 +10
L 2 +8

Here is session 3 Profit 40
                                                                               
L
W 1 +1
L 1  0
L 1 -1
W 1  0
L
L 1 -1
W 1 +1
W
L
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40
L 1 +3
L 1 +2
L 1 +1
W 2 +3
L
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
L 1 +4
W 1 +5
L
Z 1 +4,5
L 1 +3,5
W 1 +4,5
L
L 1 +3,5
L 1 +2,5
W 2 +4,5
L
W 1 +4,5
L 1 +3,5
W 1 +4,5
L 1 +3,5
W 1 +4,5
W 1 +5,5
L 1 +4,5
L 1 +3,5
L 1 +2,5
W 2 +4,5
W
L
L 1 +3,5
L 1 +3,5
L 2 +1,5

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L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
L 1 +2
L 1 +1
Z 1 +0,5
W 1 +1.5
L
L 1 +0,5
W 1 +1,5
W
L
W 1 +2,5
W 1 +3,5
L 1 +2,5
W 1 +3,5
W 1 +4,5 Profit 40
L 1 +3,5
L 1 +2,5
L 1 +1,5
W 2 +3,5
W
L
L 1 +2,5
W 1 +3,5
W
L
L 1 +1,5
L 1 +0,5
L 2 -1,5

---------

W
L
L 1 -1
L 1 -2
L 2 -4 Loss 40

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W
L
L 1 -1
L 1 -2
W 2  0
W
L
L 1 -1
L 1 -2
W 2  0
W
W
L
L 1 -1
L 1 -2
L 2 -4 Loss 40

--------

L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
L 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40
L 1 +3
L 1 +2
W 1 +3
W
L
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
L 1 +4
W 1 +5
W 1 +6
W 1 +7
L 1 +6
W 1 +7
W 1 +8
W 1 +9
W 1 +10
L 1 +9
L 1 +8
L 1 +7
W 2 +9
L
W 1 +10
L 1 +9
L 1 +8
W 1 +9
L
W 1 +10
L 1 +9
L 1 +8
L 1 +7
W 2 +9
W
W
L
W 1 +10
W 1 +11
W 1 +12
L 1 +11
L 1 +10
W 1 +11
L
L 1 +10
L 1 +9
L 2 +7

---------

L
L 1 -1
W 1  0
W
L
W 1 +1
L 1  0
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
L 1 +2
L 1 +1
L 1  0
W 2 +2
L
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40
L 1 +3
W 1 +4
L 1 +3
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
L 1 +4
L 1 +3
L 1 +2
L 2  0

-----------

L
W 1 +1
Z 1 +0,5
W 1 +1.5
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40
L 1 +3
W 1 +4
L 1 +3
L 1 +2
W 1 +3
Z
W
L
L 1 +2
L 1 +1
L 2 -1

-----------

L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40
L 1 +3
L 1 +2
W 1 +3
W
L
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
W 1 +6
W 1 +7
W 1 +8
W 1 +9
L 1 +8
L 1 +7
L 1 +6
L 2 +4

--------

L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
L 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40
W 1
L
W
W
L
L
L
L

----------

W
L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40
W
L
L
L
W
L
W
L
L
W
W
W
L
W
W
W
L
W
W
L
L
L
L

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W
W
L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4 Profit 40
W
W
L
W
L
L
W
W
L
L
W
L
L
L
L

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LWWLWWWWWWLLWWLWLLWWLLLWWWLWWWLLLL

LLLWWLLWLWWWWLLWWLLWLWLWWLLWWWLLWWWWWLLLWLLWWLWWWLWLLLWLWWWLLWLWLWLLLWLLLWWLWLLLL

LLWLLWLLLWLWWLLLWLWWWWLLLWLLWLWLLWLWLLLL

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[highlight]There is more options to grinding out a profit using L/W patterns like LWWL LLWLWW and let the Concentration Desperation of L/W make us gain some. More about that later...[/highlight]
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 12, 2008, 09:14:15 AM
Profit 560 units Loss 80 units
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: admin on March 12, 2008, 10:26:36 AM
QuoteProfit 560 units Loss 80 units

This win/loss ratio is amazing lucky. Total congratulations to you mate. Awesome. [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 12, 2008, 12:10:01 PM

I am sorry VLS for my writing. I meant Euro not Units. 13 sessions Profit 560 Euro Loss 80 Euro.
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 13, 2008, 11:52:02 AM
Now we can change the progression to 113 and let the first 1 ride on a win until the first loss and let the last 3 become 1 profit and let that 1 ride on a win until the first loss. It would be like riding two horses at the same time. You only break even at the middle 11.

So if you take a look above we lost 2 sessions, now using 113 we only lost one session of 13 sessions.

This one the losing session becoming a winning session.

W
L
L 1 -1
L 1 -2
W 3 +1
W 1 +2
L 1 +1
L 1 +0
L 1 -1
W 3 +2
W 1+3
W 1 +4 Profit 40
L 1 +3
L 1 +2
L 1 +1
L 3 -2

Profit 600 euro Loss 50 euro or Profit 60 units Loss 5 units...
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 13, 2008, 04:30:47 PM
We have tested 112 and 113. Here is another one 123. You let the winnings ride until a loss at 12 and break even at 3.
The trigger is still one fictive loss.


LLWWLLWWLLWWLWLWLLWWLWLWLLLWLWWLWLWWLWLLWWLLWLWLLWLWWLWWWLLWWWWLWWLWLLWWWLWLLWLLLWLLWLLLL

  2
  2
  2
  2
1
  2 ---
  2
1
1
  2
  2
1
1....---
  2
  2
1
  2
  2 L
1....L
1
1
  2
  2
  2 W
1
  2
1....W
1
1
1
  2
  2
1....L
1....L 1 -1
1
1
1
1
  2
1
  2 W 2 +1
  2
1
1
1....W 1 +2
  2
1
1....L 1 +1
  2 L 1 +0
  2
1
  2
1....W 2 +2
  2
1
  2
  2
  2 W 1 +3
1
  2
  2 L 1 +2
  2 W 1 +3
1
  2
  2 L 1 +2
1....W 1 +3
  2
  2
1....L 1 +2
1....L 1 +1
1
  2
1
  2 W 2 +3
1
1
1....W 1 +4 Profit 40
1
1
1
  2
  2
1....L 1 +3
  2 W 1 +4
  2
  2
1
1
  2 L 1 +3
1....W 1 +4
  2
  2
1....L 1 +3
1....L 1 +2
  2
1
1....L 2 +1
1....W 3 +4
1
  2
  2
1....L
  2 W 1 +5
1
1
1....W 1 +6
1
1
  2
1
1....L 1 +5
1....W 1 +6
1
1
  2
  2
1....L 1 +5
  2 W 1 +6
1
1
1....W 1 +7
  2
  2
1....L 1 +6
  2 W 1 +7
1
  2
1
1
  2 L 1 +6
  2 L 1 +5
  2
1
  2
1....W 2 +7
  2
  2
  2 W 1 +8
  2
1
1
  2 L 1 +7
  2 L 1 +6
  2
1
  2
1,,,,W 2 +8
1
  2
  2
1....L 1 +7
  2 W 1 +8
1
  2
1
1
  2 L 1 +7
  2 L 1 +6
  2
1
  2
1....W 2 +8
1
1
  2
  2
1....L 1 +7
  2 W 1 +8
1
1
1....W 1 +9
  2
1
1....L 1 +8
1....W 1 +9
1
  2
  2
  2 W 1 +10
1
  2
1....W 1 +11
  2
1
  2
  2
1....L 1 +10
1....L 1 +9
  2
  2
  2 W 2 +11
1
1
1....W 1 +12
  2
  2
  2 W 1 +13
  2
  2
1
1
1....W 1 +14
  2
  2
1....L 1 +13
  2 W 1 +14
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
  2
  2 W 1 +15
  2
  2
  2
1
1
  2 L 1 +14
1....W 1 +15
  2
  2
1....L 1 +14
1....L 1 +13
  2
1
  2 W 2 +15
1
1
1....W 1 +16
  2
  2
  2 W 1 +17
1
1
  2 L 1 +16
1....W 1 +17
1
  2
1
1....L 1 +16
  2 L 1 +15
1
  2
1
1
1....W 2 +17
1
  2
  2
1....L 1 +16
1....L 1 +15
1
  2
  2
1....L 2 +13
  2 W 3 +16
  2
1
1
  2 L
  2 L 1 +15
1
1
1....W 2 +17
  2
1
1....L 1 +16
  2 L 1 +15
  2
  2
1
  2
  2 L 2 +13
1....L 3 +10
  2
  2
  2
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Lanky on March 16, 2008, 02:00:49 AM
Hi Lucky

Mate I can see that your selectios work but I can't grasp how when or why to bet.

Could you please give us an example of say using one pattern at first.

Then move onto using 2 patterns.

It would be easier to learn that way mate.

I am sure that you have a lot of followers........but like me they just need a better explanation with examples used Mate.

Thanks for Your help Lucky

Lanky
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: LeBear on March 16, 2008, 02:07:37 AM
Hi Lucky,
   I have been studying your concept and see the limited bank draw down and expoentially expanding profit.  I have attempted to duplicate your success and have come to the conclusion that more guidance is required to effectivley implement this strategy.  Would it be possible to further elaborate on this idea so we all may understand it.  Thank you.

Best regards,

LeBear
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: digf on March 16, 2008, 07:14:46 AM
Hello Lucky

Your system looks very interesting and profitable but I'm finding it difficult to understand. Sorry to be a pain but could you explain it maybe in a slightly different way so I can understand it.

Thanks
digf       :-[
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: admin on March 16, 2008, 11:12:14 AM
Three in a row... I see a trend here :) Lucky?
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 16, 2008, 12:01:24 PM
Hi and THANKS... [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

I will but my favorite spell checker i use is down for the moment, when it is up i will try to make it step by step.

I have run some tests with both, The March DBL and The March FTL and tripled the bankroll at no time.

Cheers
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: xman1970 on March 16, 2008, 12:10:47 PM
Thanks Lucky that will help  [smiley=wink.gif]


cheers.... [smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: LeBear on March 16, 2008, 12:15:01 PM
Hi Lucky,
   That sounds great.  Thanks in advance for taking the time and the patience to do this.  I know how difficult it can be to take a concept and put it into an understandable format.  Thank you again for your effort mate.

best regards,

LeBear
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: digf on March 16, 2008, 03:40:41 PM
Thanks for the response Lucky   I'll look forward to your next post

digf
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 17, 2008, 07:50:19 PM
This is just guide lines.
You can treat them as ideas.
Because my mind has not the complete solution.
I have been making tweaks whit amazing results.
But i still trying to find a final solution for grinding out a profit.


In my previous post The March DBL.
I was trying to find a way to get long waves of L/W strikes. Where the distribution of events haded a dispersion concentration of winning and loses. I succeed to limit the loses strikes to shop whit in 3 steps. Like this.

WW L WWW L WW LL W LLL WZWW L WWW LL WW L WW L W L ZW L WW LL W L WW L WWWW L W L WWWWWWW L W LLLL

So now i wanted to find a way to gain profits without using a negative progression. I needed a staking plan.

Now i know that let it ride is effective and would let me avoid to use large bets.

So here it is, if we use 113 as an progression, then we will win one unit if we win at our first attempt. If we win at our second attempt we break even. If we win at our last attempt then we win one unit.

Now i was thinking if we win at the first attempt then we will be up one unit, + 1 unit. Then i tougt that we could let this profit whit one unit ride for the next bet. If it lose then we break even. If we hit a winning strike then we gain profits and play until a loss.

Now if iwe lose the first bet and win thw second bet we break even and start over, we don't have a winning unit to ride.

If we won at the last attempt then we have +1 unit and could let it ride and hope that it would hitting a winning strike.

Now here is a important thing we only start the play after a virtual loss.

Now if we get this L/W strikes

WWLWL
         11

We win at the first attempt after a virtual loss and let the winning unit ride for the next bet. The next bet loses. But now we have a new virtual loss so now we will play 113 again.

Now if we get this L/W strikes

W
W
L one virtual loss start to play 113
W 1 +1 one win let it ride until a loss
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
L 1 +2 one virtual loss start to play 113
W 1 +3 one win let it ride
W 1 +4
L 1 +3 one virtual loss start to play 113
L 1 +2
W 1 +3 break even 11 wait for a virtual loss
L one virtual loss play 113
L 1 +2
L 1 +1
W 3 +4 one win let it ride until a loss
Z 1 +3,5 zero repeat the bet
W 1 +4,5
W 1 +5,5
L 1 +4,5 one virtual loss play 113
W 1 +5,5 one win let it ride until a loss
W 1 +6,5
W 1 +7,5
L 1 +6,5 one virtual loss play 113
L 1 +5,5
W 1 +6,5 break even 11 wait for a virtual loss
W
L
W 1 +7,5 one win let it ride
W
L
W
L
Z
W
L
W
W
L
L
W
L
W
W
L
W
W
W
W
L
W
L
W
W
W
W
W
W
W
L
W
L
L
L
L




Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Panopticon on March 18, 2008, 01:54:35 PM
Hi Lucky Strike,

your system looks interesting and I think that I understand the way you play it. But even when tracking all kinds of EC at the same time I think is a bit rare to get something like 11221122 or 12121212 checking some Hamburg spins it seemed to me that you have to wait for a loooooooooong time for this to happen...correct me if I'm wrong, you have obviously tested more on this, and maybe I'm mistaken.

Anyway  [smiley=dankk2.gif] for sharing your ideas (even when your explanations are a bit confusing at times!)
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Compa on March 18, 2008, 07:07:46 PM
Hello Lucky. Thanks for an awesome system! However, there's some confusion about how to bet and when. In your example with the 4 Triggerseries: BB-RR-BB-RR-BB its hard to interprete what happens after that, cause it seem to make no sense to me since it looks like a w is marked as an L and so on. So in order to play the Lw.s we must first have a clear explanation of the Basics...Now, i assume this is NOT the proper way to approach your system: Trigger=BB-CCCC/end of sequence-looking for new Trigger-CCCC/  and so on...

Thanks
/Compa
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: LeBear on March 18, 2008, 07:14:20 PM
Hi Lucky,
   Thanks for the great post.  Maybe what would be helpful to us all is to place the numbers, or red  and black next to each decision to help us all understand it better.  Thanks in advance for your time and trouble.

best regards,

LeBear
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 19, 2008, 05:54:13 AM
B
B
R
R
B
B
R
R
B
B
B W a virtual win start to play after a virtual loss
B
B

R
R a serie of two reds an indication begin
B L
R W
B

R
R a serie of two reds an indication begin
B L
B L
B
B
B

R
B two singels an indication begin
R W
R
R

B
R two singels an indication begin
R L
R W

B
B a serie of two blacks an indication begin
B W

R
B two singels an indication begin
R W
B
R
B
R

B
B a serie of two blacks an indication begin
B W

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

L/W strikes...

W a virtual win start to play after a virtual loss
L
W 1 +1
L 1 +0
L 1 -1
W 1 +0
L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: LeBear on March 19, 2008, 06:08:04 AM
Hi Lucky,
   Thanks mate that is just what we needed.

best regards,

LeBear
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Compa on March 19, 2008, 06:16:27 AM
QuoteB [highlight]<--TrigSerie starts [/highlight]here
B
R
R
B
B
R
R[highlight]<--Triggers stop here?  Then RR=BBRB-BBBB-BBBR[/highlight]
B [highlight]This a win on RR?[/highlight]
B[highlight]<--If this is a virtual Loss, what is the Trigger prior to this loss suppose to be then? [/highlight]
B W a virtual win start to play after a virtual loss
B
B

R
R a serie of two reds an indication begin
B L
R W
B

R
R a serie of two reds an indication begin
B L
B L
B
B
B

R
B two singels an indication begin
R W
R
R

B
R two singels an indication begin
R L
R W

B
B a serie of two blacks an indication begin
B W

R
B two singels an indication begin
R W
B
R
B
R

B
B a serie of two blacks an indication begin
B W

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

L/W strikes...

W a virtual win start to play after a virtual loss
L
W 1 +1
L 1 +0
L 1 -1
W 1 +0
L
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 19, 2008, 06:24:24 AM

Compa the 4 series of 2 is just for demonstration.
You can use any dispersion of events to be the trigger.

Clarifications.

4 loses and one virtual win. You can wait for 6 virtual loses and then wait for a virtual win and then start to play for reel after one virtual loss.

B
B
R L
R L
B
B
R L
R L
B
B
B W a virtual win start to play after a virtual loss
B
B

R
R a serie of two reds an indication begin
B L
R W
B

R
R a serie of two reds an indication begin
B L
B L
B
B
B

R
B two singels an indication begin
R W
R
R

B
R two singels an indication begin
R L
R W

B
B a serie of two blacks an indication begin
B W

R
B two singels an indication begin
R W
B
R
B
R

B
B a serie of two blacks an indication begin
B W

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 19, 2008, 06:39:44 AM
WLWWWLLWLWLLLLLLLLWWLWLLLWZWLLWWWLLWLLLLLLLWWLWWWWWWWLWLWLWLWWWLLWWLLWWWWLWLWLLLLLWWLWWWLLWWZLW

Session 1 LLLLLLLLW - [ WLWLLLWZWLLWWWLLWLLLL ]
                                   
Session 2 LLLLLLLW - [ WLWWWWWWWLWLWLWLWWWLLWWLLWWWWLWLWLLLL ]

Session 3 LLLLLW - [ WLWWWLLWWZLW

25
7
7      w
36
7
32
  15
23
  4
  2      L
  22   W
7
32
30      W
18
  13
  33
  17      W
  33
32
5
  15      L
  8      L
  35
21
34
30      W
19
  17
  31
18      L
  10      W
  10
  15
9
  15
  15      L
21      L
  11
36
  29
9
19
  20      L
  13      L
  13
  15
16
  10
  8      L
18      L
  26
19
  31
36
 0
  8
  17
9      L
14      L
19
  8
  17
  31      W
19
3
1      W
  17
 0
32
36      L
36      W
  35
34
  22      W
  4
34
  2
  26
30      L
14      L
21
5
  26
  35
1      L
  13      W
23
27
 0      Z
14      W
 0
27
19
  31
  20
32      L
34      L
  15
36
  31      W
  8
  24
32
1
3      W
  2
27
  15      W
  8
  15
  24
  15
7
  2
  8      L
32       L
  8
  4
  10      W
27
  4
  31      L
27       L
  29
3
  26
14
  15
21
  10
  31
34      L
36      L
25
23
16
  10
25
32      L
  26      L
3
36
  33      L
21      W
21
18
5
9
34
5
7
  6
5
  8      W
7
 0
  26
32
12
  4      L
25      W
  13
  2
  15      W
21
  26
7      W
  31
  4
  2      W
7
3
34      W
1
21
  26
  6
  4      W
  10
  10
  2
  35
  33
12
32
16      W
  29
  2
36      L
  35      W
  4
  15
14
1
  11      L
1      W
12
 0
  22
  4
3      L
  10      W
36
  33
30
25
  15      L
34      W
  8
18
  13
30
21
7      W
  10
  29
  29      W
  35
  20
14
  22
  29      L
30      L
16
  10
19
  2      W
  22
  22
  13
  33
  15
14
  28
19      W
  17
  35
9      L
9      L
25
  15
  15
  35      W
23
32
27      W
36
  24
32
  26      W
18
25
21      W
  11
  24
34      L
  33      W
21
18
  17      L
3      W
3
3
  35
23
23      L
  2      L
  13
  24
  24
  33
  8
30
  22
  4      L
5      L
  11
19
 0
  31
14
3
  6      L
30      W
12
5
  11
  29
  24      W
  4
  6
19
  22
  6      L
  35      W
1
27
16      W
  13
  20
  4      W
  26
 0
18
  26
  29      L
19      L
12
  22
16
  29      W
  26
  33
7
34
21      W
25
  22
34
 0      ZL
5      L
7      W
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Compa on March 19, 2008, 07:31:50 AM
Lucky mate. I know its only for example. But as far as i understand the idea is to bet after a Triggerpattern. These pattern are: RR/BB/BR/RB. These patterns generates certain patterns, both for wins and losses. Now, what i dont understand is why you mark out a win after a Trigger comes as a loss? Im lost buddy:/


Cheers
/Compa
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 19, 2008, 07:40:27 AM
 I did not my friend... DBL

B
B L
R L
R L
B L
B L
R L
R L
B L
B L
B W Trigger start to track and play after a virtual loss
B
B

Result LLLLLLLLLW

R
R a serie of two reds an indication begin
B L
R W
B

R
R a serie of two reds an indication begin
B L
B L
B
B
B

R
B two singels an indication begin
R W
R
R

B
R two singels an indication begin
R L
R W

B
B a serie of two blacks an indication begin
B W

R
B two singels an indication begin
R W
B
R
B
R

B
B a serie of two blacks an indication begin
B W

Result LWLLWLWWWW



Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 19, 2008, 07:47:52 AM
Again here it is...

B
B two series of black an indication
R L
R L two series of red an indication
B L
B L two series of black an indication
R L
R L two series of red an indication
B L
B L two series of black an indication
B W DBLTrigger start to track and play after a virtual loss
B
B
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 19, 2008, 08:24:18 AM

Does it need any further explanation. Can i begin whit FTL now, my favorite.

Cheers
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Compa on March 19, 2008, 08:33:48 AM
QuoteAgain here it is...

B
B two series of black an indication [highlight]Is this a Trigger?[/highlight]
R L
R L two series of red an indication [highlight](Trigger?)How can this be a loss?[/highlight]
B L
B L two series of black an indication[highlight](Trigger?) How can this be a loss?[/highlight]
R L
R L two series of red an indication [highlight](Trigger?) How can this be a loss?
B L[/highlight]
B L two series of black an indication
B W DBLTrigger start to track and play after a virtual loss
B
B

Hey Lucky. Sorry if im totally stupid on this but it seem that we have to get the importance/role of the TriggerFunction clear and how to interprete the appearance of them in relationship to what happens next on the board. Also, would you like to clearify the content of DBL ? Thanks and sorry:(

Cheers mate
/Compa
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 19, 2008, 11:18:14 AM

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[smiley=rolleyes.gif]
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Panopticon on March 19, 2008, 01:51:35 PM
Just a question...

B
B
R
R
B
B
R
R
B
B
B W a virtual win start to play after a virtual loss
B
B

R
R a serie of two reds an indication begin  
B L  
R W  
B                                                     <<<====== Why we do not have a switch here???

R  
R a serie of two reds an indication begin  
B L
B L
B
B
B

[smiley=dankk2.gif]
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 19, 2008, 03:19:42 PM
[highlight]How to procide and use The March, The Tracking. [/highlight]

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[highlight]There is one Rule.[/highlight]

The rule is that the next indication is valid if it comes after a switch not if its a part of the previous indication.

Now The March has one rule regarding how to find and when to use the indications. Lets say you get 1 serie of 2  RR and the first decision lost and the second decision wins it would look like this.

R
R
B L
R W
B
R
B
B

Now after the win the pattern continue to alternating, so you now have to wait for a serie of 2, BB or RR.

Now lets take a look at 1 serie of 2 singels BR.


R
R
R
B
R
B W
B
B

R
R


Now after the win we get a seire of 3. We don't track or play. We wait for a switch before we use a new indication to be valid. Above it would be the serie of 2 reds at the end.


Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Panopticon on March 19, 2008, 04:41:56 PM
Ok I get it, if in your example we had after the win RRRR we would wait for a B, since we have an alteration we wait to have the first series of two. I had not paid the proper attention to this point.  [smiley=dankk2.gif]
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: hermes on March 20, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
It starts to be a really complicated! Use a common sense.
If you see RR bet 2 times more R, If you see BB bet 2 times more B. If you see BR bet next 2 spins BR, if you see RB bet next 2 spins RB.  If 6 doubles come in row you lose only 2 because you rechart after the losses.
You have 12 winning and 4 losing combinations. After two losses rechart. The Alembert negative , Win -1 unit, loss +1 unit is OK but other progressions could be useful too, e.g. Oscar Grind?
Give special attention to repeating doubles and reverse chops, that are the only enemies.
Hermes
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Compa on March 21, 2008, 03:25:36 PM
Thanks Hermes...LMAO  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]


Cheers
/Compa
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Natural9 on March 22, 2008, 10:25:45 PM
Hi Lucky I am new here I was just wondering if this be better for baccarat which is my game of chioce or has been because the even chances is like between 1-1.5% and you dont have to deal with the zero as in roulette pluss is a faster game

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 23, 2008, 03:45:16 AM

Natural 9

Hi, i always been curios regarding baccarat, but as i understand it you have to play every decision. If that's correct i don´t recommend anything regarding baccarat. Because i have to observe and track the distribution of events before i interact and play.

Cheers Lucky Strike
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Natural9 on March 23, 2008, 05:39:18 AM
 Lucky Strike

I dont know regarding every individual casino regards playing every decision if you just heads up i guess you would but if there are a  few people at table you wouldnt just like roulette I guess they wont spin wheel unless someone is having a bet

The times I  have played bccarat you dont have play every decision provided obviously if someone is  at the table still betting

Cheers Rodney
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 23, 2008, 08:09:05 AM
Natural 9...

Can you explain thist for me...

Lets say i am playing i get my personal permanence "Player or Bank" and from where i make my desisions for how to place my next bet.

Now if i understood you correct i am allowed to place bets on "Player or Banker" on another players game. I can stand next to some one ho plays and place bets on hes game. I don´t have to sit down and get my own cards.

Is that correct?

If it is i still see an issue, if i following hes permanence, distribution of events, i don´t know for how long he is going to play. So if i get a bet selection and want to interact and play, i don´t know if i can play my session to the end because he might quit before i am done.

Correct me if i am wrong!

Cheers Lucky Strike
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: Natural9 on March 23, 2008, 07:42:35 PM
If table is busy you can place from behind on any decision you like or if you sitting down you just place bet where you want only minor problem is when you play heads up in other words one on one with the dealer they wont deal without money on the table tho I think some casinos even do that

It similar to roulette if you heads up with dealer they wont spin unless money on table

hope this help just ewith bac yougot no zero to contend with and edge like 1 %  or fraction more

I play bqaccarat b out month ago was quiet in casino the dealer didnt care whether i bet every decision but wouldnt deal unless someone had money on table i was only one at table at times but people came and went putting money on so i not bet every decisoon

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: hermes on March 24, 2008, 11:02:05 PM
For sure you cannot sit at the table the whole day without bet but you can skip a lot of bets if other players place their bets. That's clear that when nobody place bet dealer don't distributes the cards (waits for bet). With player/banker is it the same as with red/black. The only problem would be the 5% commission on winning banker bets but you can include the commission in your banker bet. You bet 5% more on banker.
Yes, Baccarat or Sic Bo are better choice than American roulette. Write down like this:
B  P
-----
X
X
X
   X
   X
X
   X
X
X       and so on... the same formation as ECs.

Hermes
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 28, 2009, 08:51:48 AM

lol my head spins back to this hahaha - now i made a method that i call FTF "follow the first" and it grinds out a profit...

LS
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: doms on March 28, 2009, 10:38:55 AM
DBL what shorted from ???
Title: Re: The March DBL
Post by: lucky_strike on March 28, 2009, 10:51:39 AM

It means Decision Before Last ...

LS