Have heard you guys talk Gamblers Glen and would like to know what it is and where to find it.
[smiley=dankk2.gif] Matilda
Hey Matilda,
This is the address nolinks://nolinks.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master
Gambler's Glenn has been around a long time.
You will also find some of the best information out there regarding advantage play in the archives.
Some of the most intelligent gamblers around will occasionally post on GG.
Some of them are also professionals. Unfortunately, the place is also infested with some very annoying posters as well, so you have to take the good with the bad.
Don't post a system there unless you're ready to deal with the truth.
Herb.
Quoteunless you're ready to deal with the truth
But i am afraid you won't appreciate THE truth : "
No mechanical systems can win" this is why there is another breed of system poping out... systems which are subjectives and request the use of your mind. Not an easy proposition my dear. I tell you.
Arte,
Well said mate, I think you are correct in your above statement. I agree.
best regards,
LeBear
Show me a "subjective system" and I'll remove the subjective part for you. I'll simply tell you whether the system wins or loses. :)
QuoteShow me a "subjective system" and I'll remove the subjective part for you
Herb, the beauty of such subjective systems is that you can't tear them apart and say... see ? this part does not work, i told you.
What's truly insteresting about these new breed of systems is that you can promulgate new mathematical laws and abrogate old ones. All this based on
your own subjective perception taking place within
your mind and modified by
your individual bias (advantage players, look out! a subjective word : "individual
bias"). This is the power of the mind and no one can dispute it.
Do you see why you can't remove the subjective part ? [smiley=lolk.gif]
Read my sig, you'll get a cue.
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi24.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff24%2F11%2F75%2F07%2F03%2Fnoelpl10.gif&hash=148bc538f2be2e0605498e533d89456a1bb1eb85)
Thanks for the feedback guys but I am having trouble with the site when I try to register is says no URL on this site?????
Never had any trouble with the others anyone got any ideas as the why.
Am unable to access the archives
Matilda
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"Herb, the beauty of such subjective systems is that you can't tear them apart and say... see ? this part does not work, I told you." --- Yep, very true, I agree. Ken
Actually, yes you can. Quite easily I might add.
It's very easy to prove these subjective systems don't work. However, it's quite hard to convince the "subjective" system users that they don't work.
QuoteActually, yes you can. Quite easily I might add.
It's very easy to prove these subjective systems don't work.
Hi comrade, would you mind telling me what you would try to measure in order to claim system ABC is not better than playing at random ?
Do you only gamble on the standard deviation?
QuoteHi comrade, would you mind telling me what you would try to measure in order to claim system ABC is not better than playing at random ?
Simple, the results for one :)
QuoteSimple, the results for one
And then...
And then, yes, you can say it doesn't work if the subjective system doesn't perform better than random.
Seriously, you can just look at 99.99% of systems and immediately know whether they will work.
If you want more detail, then we can discuss it in the general chat, (not MSN)
Discussing it openly here is not a good idea.
-Herb
Ok :thumbsup: :-X
GG: the same people have been having the same conversations there day after day and year after year.
Yeah I've checked it now and then but it's always the same same arguments and thousands of posts later nothing is accomplished.
Quoteit's always the same same arguments and thousands of posts later nothing is accomplished
This is just your opinion. I think it goes very slowly due to the nature of the problem to solve but i learn more there than on this forum and vip combined. It's a matter of catching the few gold buggets on the ground when they get there.
We should bear in mind that being unclear on an issue and asking a question about it is a far cry from a put down. People who post systems sometimes have mistakes in their math and possibly their thinking. Pointing out their mistakes, even if they post on the completed systems thread, is not a put down. While the system may be completed to them, there could still be errors.
We should all be open to constructive criticism.
Samster
Quote[highlight]We should all be open to constructive criticism.[/highlight]
Samster
Absolutely Sam. I see no harm in correcting a fellow poster who made a mistake with the math, as long as it is done in a polite way.
I'm sure Victor will do what it takes to prevent this forum becoming GG :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Take it easy......[smiley=beer.gif]
I've read some interesting posts on GG but ultimately the post goes to pot because it turns into some kind of a strange testosterone pissing match. Once that happens all discussion about the system being proposed stops and the name calling starts. Actually makes for a frustrating read.
as TwoCatSam said:
"We should bear in mind that being unclear on an issue and asking a question about it is a far cry from a put down. People who post systems sometimes have mistakes in their math and possibly their thinking. Pointing out their mistakes, even if they post on the completed systems thread, is not a put down. While the system may be completed to them, there could still be errors.
We should all be open to constructive criticism."
Exactly!
Thats the whole point of a forum. If I had the ultimate answer to the holy grail I wouldn't be hear writing this, I would be in a casino using it.
Monte Carlo
GG has turned into a psychadelic board for subconsious minds and people who guesses 50/50 games with a 90% accuracy, but creeps into a hole in the ground when it comes to standing up for their claims. There are not many there who`s feet still on the ground.
When it was a gamblers board, there were the occasional bashing between proud minds, who wouldn`t take any crap, now its just plain silly. And i see it starts to sneak in here too. Carefull VLS........
Thanks for the warn kelly, I was baited myself too.
We have a working moderating crew, but because I initially told Spike they wouldn't be censored, several harsh posts have been left in the open, but truth is it isn't fair for people to come here to read GG-like style threads.
We'll clean up this mess. The mods and myself will work for posts which aren't in line with this forum's main spirit to be removed.
[highlight]This won't be GG.[/highlight]
Best regards.
Victor
Well, the "moderating fairy" has come around before... I see some of our mods have already taken several posts at this thread down. I recall Spike saying bye and other posts directed at him. I'll do my best to edit what remains.
Amazing this started as an innocent question from Matilda. I can only wonder her face when she got this much more than was asked :-[
This won't be GG again, [smiley=im/yb668.gif]. Sorry for this one Mat. [smiley=im/embaressed_smile.gif]
[edit]Done! Let's just leave this whole "What is Gambler's Glen" issue in the past. And move on with the actual roulette-related discussion as expected. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [/edit]