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Title: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: MXkid77 on May 06, 2009, 03:35:50 AM
Just my 2c,

@ everyone who constructively contributed to the dyksexlic online RNG crack thread. I thank you for your input, i will follow D's advise and scan your posts.

@ dyksexlic, thank you for your time taken to try and help people, although i never posted in the thread, i did learn something.

@ HATERS........ Well, thanks guys, you managed to achieve what you set out to do....... WELL DONE.

@ HATERS........ Thanks again for depriving some forum members of a topic of intrest...... WELL DONE.

@ HATERS........ If you don't agree with a topic, or have no intrest in contributing to it, YOU have the choice to stay out of it.

@ HATERS........ Thanks for taking away my choice to follow a thread that i was intrested in.

@ HATERS........ I forgot..... you guys DO obviously know everthing, and can not learn anything further.

@ HATERS........ Remember, the world was once flat.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 04:19:23 AM
Hi MX,

your point is valid.

You have to admit though that really speaking D has not really given us much if anything. No hard feelings to him, from me.

@ JD,

I liked the way you looked at the carpet. 0-18 and 18 -36.

Cover 18 - 36 and play the numbers as they apprear adding every spin a number. Only problem I see if there is no repeaters in the 0-18 section. What would happen if all the repeats are 18-36?

Thanks for you insight.

Cheers
Jakk
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Mr Chips on May 06, 2009, 05:03:59 AM
MXkid,
 
He was just stringing everyone along for his own entertainment. There is every chance he will come back and say he has had a number of PM's
and emails from people here, begging him to come back and then there will be another 40 pages, where you will be none the wiser!
 
Mr Chips
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: J.Daniels on May 06, 2009, 05:28:43 AM
@Jakk

The way I said is only for 18 + 1 numbers, it could be red/black, high/low or odd/even. The problem that this only works if you had 18+1 numbers on roulette. You break even all the way with no repetition and when you hit you make a profit, but I am not counting the "opposite" 18 numbers...

JD
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: J.Daniels on May 06, 2009, 07:58:46 AM
Hi Philc,

The problem with this is that you can only use it with a fixed set of numbers such a high/low +0, red/black +0 etc...

You can also choose where to break even..I explain myself:

if you are betting straight numbers from high, you just cover the low with the amounts of chips I said, like that you break even in the opposite.

Another way is to do it with dozens..

Cheers mate

JD
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Carpanta on May 06, 2009, 08:00:59 AM
I leave this for you. Take a look, please.

6 different numbers in the first 6 spins
play those 6 numbers for next 6 spins   now spin 12                     
spin 7  bet previous number
spin 8 bet 2 previous numbers
spin 9 bet 3 previous numbers
spin 10 bet 4 previous numbers
spin 11 bet 5 previous numbers
spin 12 bet 6 previous numbers
play first 6 numbers for next 6 spins  now spin 18
play second  6 numbers (spins 7/12) for next 6 spins now spin 18
spin 13 bet previous number
spin 14 bet 2 previous numbers
spin 15 bet 3 previous numbers
spin 16 bet 4 previous numbers
spin 17 bet 5 previous numbers
spin 18 bet 6 previous numbers
play first 6 numbers for next 6 spins now spin 24         
play second 6 numbers for next 6 spins now spin 24
play theird 6 numbers for next 6 spins now spin 24
spin 19 bet previous number
spin 20 bet previous 2 numbers
spin 21 bet previous 3 numbers
spin 22 bet previous 4 numbers
spin 23 bet previous 5 numbers
spin 24 bet previous 6 numbers
play first 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 30
play second 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 30
play theird 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 30
play fourth 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 30
spin 25 bet previous number
spin 26 bet 2 previous number
spin 27 bet 3 previous number
spin 28 bet 4 previous number
spin 29 bet 5 previous number
spin 30 bet 6 previous number
play first 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
play second  6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
play theird 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
play fourth 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
play fifth 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
spin 31 bet previous number
spin 32 bet 2 previous number
spin 33 bet 3 previous number
spin 34 bet 4 previous number
spin 35 bet 5 previous number
spin 36 bet 6 previous number

Now 1 number left without a repetition before?
I leave for mathsboys if any kind of progression in each respective group.

Cheers,
Carlos



Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 10:12:13 AM
Hi JD,

Sorry mate do I understand it correctly.

Example: Numbers that was spun

1,4,13,23,32,34,3,17,29,14,12....etc.

Let's say we play 0-18 and cover 19-36

1  so we place 1c on 1 and 1c on 19-36
4  so we place 1c on 1 and 4 and 3 chips on 19-36
13 so we place 1 c on 1,4,13 and 6 chips on 19-36
23 so we bet 1c on 1,4,13,23 and 10c on 19-36
32 so we win and it is evens

We start again? Or do we continue? Looks like there might be interesting combinations happening here. We could even insure that you make a small profit on the 19-36 covered. Does not have to even out.

Thanks again JD.

Cheers
Jakk

Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
Could you try explaining a little easier, i dont understand the whole thing..

Jakk, i think you got it. I think it's my english!
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 10:19:06 AM
Or maybe i do understand  :yahoo:
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on May 06, 2009, 10:23:34 AM
This is getting interesting my friends  :D
TSK
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 10:24:12 AM
Hi Sealine,

You understand it now?

Cheers
Jakk
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: MXkid77 on May 06, 2009, 10:27:59 AM
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 10:12:13 AM
Hi JD,

Sorry mate do I understand it correctly.

Example: Numbers that was spun

1,4,13,23,32,34,3,17,29,14,12....etc.

Let's say we play 0-18 and cover 19-36

1  so we place 1c on 1 and 1c on 19-36
4  so we place 1c on 1 and 4 and 3 chips on 19-36
13 so we place 1 c on 1,4,13 and 6 chips on 19-36
23 so we bet 1c on 1,4,13,23 and 10c on 19-36
32 so we win and it is evens

We start again? Or do we continue? Looks like there might be interesting combinations happening here. We could even insure that you make a small profit on the 19-36 covered. Does not have to even out.

Thanks again JD.

Cheers
Jakk



So Jakk, in essence you are financing the eventual repeater hit. this correct?

MX
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 10:31:07 AM
Ok jakk! I dunno if im doing right or wrong. But this system still includes progression? And D said that he didn't use any progression what so ever.

Anyway heres what i did, dunno if i did it wrong.

Ex. 5 numbers: 1, 4, 7, 33, 10,

1 hits: I bet 1 on number 1 and 1 chip on 19 - 36
4 hits: I bet 1 on number 1 and 4 and 3 chips on 19 - 36
7 hits: I bet 1 on number 1, 4, 7, and 6 chips on 19 - 36

Etc.

Is this profitable ? i dont know. If one of the numbers in 19 - 36 hit? Are we supposed to bet on them then? And if 19 - 36 hits, will we profit? And then start over?

Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 10:32:40 AM
Hey MX,

Well it's JD's idea.

But yeah mate, we take half the numbers out of the equation. We could always bet slightly higher on the 18 numbers as to give us a profit  (small profit). Meantime 0-18 we play the numbers as they are spun.

I will test a bit tonight and see how it goes.

Cheers mate
Jakk
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 10:36:48 AM
Im testing with fun money right now, iknow it doesn't matter but I need to know if I should stop if I profit and start over? Or continue?

Give me ur progression Jakk :thumbsup:
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 10:43:29 AM
I don't know if im doing everything wrong etc, but I don't think its working. It could just be me and my english.

Say you spin 6 times? Do you bet after 1 spin or bet on all the 6 numbers after 6 spins?
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 10:52:57 AM
I have been testing something that so far is working.  It's too early to call it the answer, but here goes my explanation.  First, everyone should read his very last post in the now closed thread.  He reveals most of the information needed to figure it out.  This last post is what changed my mind about this not being bull.  He says that you need a total bankroll of 2736 units and that the cycle is 38 spins unless you hit a repeater, then you start over.  If you divide 2736/38, that is an average bet of 72 units per spin.  It's simple, you spin once, you then bet that number and every number spun after it until you get a repeater.  You must adjust your bets so that when you hit the repeater, you are in profit.  This is the hard part and where the math comes in.  I said your average bet is 72 units.  Not every bet will be 72 units, the beginning bets will be small, then slowly increasing as more numbers come into play.  I usually hit a repeater between the 8-10 spin and am in profit.  The only way you would fail is if 38 different numbers spin up in a row.  This is next to impossible.  If you did lose all 38 spins, you would lose 2,736 units.  In my testing, I have not gotten up to the higher spins yet to see if this truly works but I am going to continue testing.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 10:59:52 AM
But pro, this is still progression. Didn't he say that he didn't use any progression at all?
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Carpanta on May 06, 2009, 11:09:43 AM
Quote from: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 10:52:57 AM
I have been testing something that so far is working.  It's too early to call it the answer, but here goes my explanation.  First, everyone should read his very last post in the now closed thread.  He reveals most of the information needed to figure it out.  This last post is what changed my mind about this not being bull.  He says that you need a total bankroll of 2736 units and that the cycle is 38 spins unless you hit a repeater, then you start over.  If you divide 2736/38, that is an average bet of 72 units per spin.  It's simple, you spin once, you then bet that number and every number spun after it until you get a repeater.  You must adjust your bets so that when you hit the repeater, you are in profit.  This is the hard part and where the math comes in.  I said your average bet is 72 units.  Not every bet will be 72 units, the beginning bets will be small, then slowly increasing as more numbers come into play.  I usually hit a repeater between the 8-10 spin and am in profit.  The only way you would fail is if 38 different numbers spin up in a row.  This is next to impossible.  If you did lose all 38 spins, you would lose 2,736 units.  In my testing, I have not gotten up to the higher spins yet to see if this truly works but I am going to continue testing.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 11:09:56 AM
 ;)  Hi Sealine,

I haven't looked at a progression yet mate. I will look at it tonight. But you can use basically what i showd in the earlier post. I think we should for instance always bet slightly highr on 19-36 as to stay in profit.

Cheers mate

Jakk


RPRO, how are you playing it?
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 11:12:40 AM
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 11:09:56 AM
;)  Hi Sealine,

I haven't looked at a progression yet mate. I will look at it tonight. But you can use basically what I showd in the earlier post. I think we should for instance always bet slightly highr on 19-36 as to stay in profit.

Cheers mate

Jakk


RPRO, how are you playing it?
Take a look:

I should have bet 3 on the very last bet, though, my mistake.

Spin Number Type   Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout                       
  0                                         2736                                   
  1    10   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2736                                   
  2    13   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2735   1 : 10                           
  3    33   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2733   1 : 10,13                       
  4    30   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2730   1 : 10,13,33                     
  5     0   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2726   1 : 10,13,30,33                 
  6     4   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2721   1 : 10,13,30,33,0               
  7    26   Bet        6     0   -6   -6    2715   1 : 4,10,13,30,33,0             
  8    11   Bet        7     0   -7   -7    2708   1 : 4,10,13,26,30,33,0           
  9     4   Bet       16     72  -16  56    2764   2 : 4,10,11,13,26,30,33,0       
10    27   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2764                                   
11    13   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2763   1 : 27                           
12     6   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2761   1 : 13,27                       
13    34   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2758   1 : 6,13,27                     
14    33   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2754   1 : 6,13,27,34                   
15    36   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2749   1 : 6,13,27,33,34               
16    33   Bet        6     36  -6   30    2779   1 : 6,13,27,33,34,36             
17     4   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2779                                   
18    22   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2778   1 : 4                           
19    34   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2776   1 : 4,22                         
20     6   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2773   1 : 4,22,34                     
21    14   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2769   1 : 4,6,22,34                   
22    29   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2764   1 : 4,6,14,22,34                 
23    28   Bet        6     0   -6   -6    2758   1 : 4,6,14,22,29,34             
24     4   Bet        7     36  -7   29    2787   1 : 4,6,14,22,28,29,34           
25    19   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2787                                   
26    11   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2786   1 : 19                           
27    22   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2784   1 : 11,19                       
28     5   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2781   1 : 11,19,22                     
29    20   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2777   1 : 5,11,19,22                   
30     3   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2772   1 : 5,11,19,20,22               
31    14   Bet        6     0   -6   -6    2766   1 : 3,5,11,19,20,22             
32     4   Bet        7     0   -7   -7    2759   1 : 3,5,11,14,19,20,22           
33    16   Bet       16     0   -16 -16    2743   2 : 3,4,5,11,14,19,20,22         
34    31   Bet       18     0   -18 -18    2725   2 : 3,4,5,11,14,16,19,20,22     
35     6   Bet       20     0   -20 -20    2705   2 : 3,4,5,11,14,16,19,20,22,31   
36    22   Bet       44    144  -44 100    2805   4 : 3,4,5,6,11,14,16,19,20,22,31
37     3   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2805                                   
38    14   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2804   1 : 3                           
39    10   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2802   1 : 3,14                         
40    22   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2799   1 : 3,10,14                     
41     7   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2795   1 : 3,10,14,22                   
42    16   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2790   1 : 3,7,10,14,22                 
43    36   Bet        6     0   -6   -6    2784   1 : 3,7,10,14,16,22             
44    21   Bet        7     0   -7   -7    2777   1 : 3,7,10,14,16,22,36           
45    33   Bet       16     0   -16 -16    2761   2 : 3,7,10,14,16,21,22,36       
46    12   Bet       18     0   -18 -18    2743   2 : 3,7,10,14,16,21,22,33,36     
47    33   Bet       20     72  -20  52    2795   2 : 3,7,10,12,14,16,21,22,33,36 
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Carpanta on May 06, 2009, 11:16:15 AM
And when you hit a repeater you go on playing on the numbers behind the repeater till you see no repeater in that string of numbers to bet on. This way you have continous play. 

Carlos.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 11:19:32 AM
Quote from: Carpanta on May 06, 2009, 11:16:15 AM
And when you hit a repeater you go on playing on the numbers behind the repeater till you see no repeater in that string of numbers to bet on. This way you have continous play. 

Carlos.
I start all over because D's post says that you start a new string of 38 after a repeater.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 11:23:45 AM
Hi RPRO,

Yeah mate that is the way we played it in the start. Casinopitbull's way.

Question is what would happen if the progression runs to 38 spins? Also, if we do run up to 37 numbers covered (let's say 37 unique numbers in a row) Then on the 38th spin all number swill be covered. That will mean that you will have an overall loss on the 38th spin...D said that he would have a win on the 38th spin that covers all previous losses in the 37 spins. That part F#cks with me.

Cheers mate
Jakk
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 11:24:16 AM
Rpro,

so this is how you do:

1hits and u bet 1 on 1

4hits and u bet 1 on 4

5hits and u bet 1 on 5

30hits and u bet 1 on 30

And so you go on? When do you start betting more chips on each number?  :scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Carpanta on May 06, 2009, 11:28:40 AM
Quote from: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 11:19:32 AM
I start all over because D's post says that you start a new string of 38 after a repeater.

And where D. says he starts again playing 1 number after a repeater?
All he says is that he start again after a repeater.
Ok. I leave this for the smart ones.
Have fun!!!!!

Carlos.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 11:31:01 AM
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 11:23:45 AM
Hi RPRO,

Yeah mate that is the way we played it in the start. Casinopitbull's way.

Question is what would happen if the progression runs to 38 spins? Also, if we do run up to 37 numbers covered (let's say 37 unique numbers in a row) Then on the 38th spin all number swill be covered. That will mean that you will have an overall loss on the 38th spin...D said that he would have a win on the 38th spin that covers all previous losses in the 37 spins. That part F#cks with me.

Cheers mate
Jakk
Hmmm...I just don't know.  I'll have to have a cup of java and think about it.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: casinopitbull on May 06, 2009, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on May 06, 2009, 11:23:45 AM
Hi RPRO,

Yeah mate that is the way we played it in the start. Casinopitbull's way.

Question is what would happen if the progression runs to 38 spins? Also, if we do run up to 37 numbers covered (let's say 37 unique numbers in a row) Then on the 38th spin all number swill be covered. That will mean that you will have an overall loss on the 38th spin...D said that he would have a win on the 38th spin that covers all previous losses in the 37 spins. That part F#cks with me.

Cheers mate
Jakk
hi  all have  u seen Tiago graf ??  1 time for 1000 000 0000 u  get 34 numbers  without repeat on last  thing  cant  be easy  thenu imagine when  uget 36 spins  no  repeat u  just  clean one  bet and  double up  everything no way  that  last 5  spiins   come 3 times  zero  orr 3 times number which stay to no repeat   no  way!!!
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 11:33:37 AM
Quote from: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 11:24:16 AM
Rpro,

so this is how you do:

1hits and u bet 1 on 1

4hits and u bet 1 on 4

5hits and u bet 1 on 5

30hits and u bet 1 on 30

And so you go on? When do you start betting more chips on each number?  :scratch_ones_head:


I did this with fun money just to tryout. And i went from 80$ to 500$ in a few minutes. What i did was that after my number hit i didn't start over but i kept going. But the problem is that i dont know when to stop tho.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: casinopitbull on May 06, 2009, 11:38:20 AM
Quote from: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 11:24:16 AM
Rpro,

so this is how you do:

1hits and u bet 1 on 1

4hits and u bet 1 on 4

5hits and u bet 1 on 5

30hits and u bet 1 on 30

And so you go on? When do you start betting more chips on each number?  :scratch_ones_head:
1st   spin   till  9    0,1  10  spin     o,2   and  so on
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 11:39:51 AM
Did D say anything about how much the minimum bet should be? I can minimum bet 50cents.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: casinopitbull on May 06, 2009, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 11:39:51 AM
Did D say anything about how much the minimum bet should be? I can minimum bet 50cents.
if u go  minimum 50 cent with  no  luck  u   finish very  early )))) not  even  with one cent  play u  cant  alive with 2800 units and this  is  what give  me  headike :angry2: :angry2:
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: casinopitbull on May 06, 2009, 11:50:15 AM
Quote from: casinopitbull on May 06, 2009, 11:42:06 AM
if u go  minimum 50 cent with  no  luck  u   finish very  early )))) not  even  with one cent  play u  cant  alive with 2800 units and this  is  what give  me  headike :angry2: :angry2:
i  have found  solution   send  it  this copy  copy  about  D  system  some  mathemathic profesor im sure   he   will find solution  becouse  there  is  still something  missing what  we dont see we dont   know  stil if  D bet  after spin  one  numb er  orr two  and  with  that 2800  units   mathematic  profesor  will  find way how its  is   when units will sid dawn  with  system  u  r   home  that  is  offcourse  IF  MISTR  D  DONT  KIDDING
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: lizard911 on May 06, 2009, 12:00:07 PM
Quote from: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 11:12:40 AM
Take a look:

I should have bet 3 on the very last bet, though, my mistake.

Spin Number Type   Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout                       
  0                                         2736                                   
  1    10   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2736                                   
  2    13   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2735   1 : 10                           
  3    33   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2733   1 : 10,13                       
  4    30   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2730   1 : 10,13,33                     
  5     0   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2726   1 : 10,13,30,33                 
  6     4   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2721   1 : 10,13,30,33,0               
  7    26   Bet        6     0   -6   -6    2715   1 : 4,10,13,30,33,0             
  8    11   Bet        7     0   -7   -7    2708   1 : 4,10,13,26,30,33,0           
  9     4   Bet       16     72  -16  56    2764   2 : 4,10,11,13,26,30,33,0       
10    27   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2764                                   
11    13   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2763   1 : 27                           
12     6   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2761   1 : 13,27                       
13    34   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2758   1 : 6,13,27                     
14    33   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2754   1 : 6,13,27,34                   
15    36   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2749   1 : 6,13,27,33,34               
16    33   Bet        6     36  -6   30    2779   1 : 6,13,27,33,34,36             
17     4   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2779                                   
18    22   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2778   1 : 4                           
19    34   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2776   1 : 4,22                         
20     6   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2773   1 : 4,22,34                     
21    14   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2769   1 : 4,6,22,34                   
22    29   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2764   1 : 4,6,14,22,34                 
23    28   Bet        6     0   -6   -6    2758   1 : 4,6,14,22,29,34             
24     4   Bet        7     36  -7   29    2787   1 : 4,6,14,22,28,29,34           
25    19   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2787                                   
26    11   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2786   1 : 19                           
27    22   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2784   1 : 11,19                       
28     5   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2781   1 : 11,19,22                     
29    20   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2777   1 : 5,11,19,22                   
30     3   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2772   1 : 5,11,19,20,22               
31    14   Bet        6     0   -6   -6    2766   1 : 3,5,11,19,20,22             
32     4   Bet        7     0   -7   -7    2759   1 : 3,5,11,14,19,20,22           
33    16   Bet       16     0   -16 -16    2743   2 : 3,4,5,11,14,19,20,22         
34    31   Bet       18     0   -18 -18    2725   2 : 3,4,5,11,14,16,19,20,22     
35     6   Bet       20     0   -20 -20    2705   2 : 3,4,5,11,14,16,19,20,22,31   
36    22   Bet       44    144  -44 100    2805   4 : 3,4,5,6,11,14,16,19,20,22,31
37     3   No Bet     0     0    0   0     2805                                   
38    14   Bet        1     0   -1   -1    2804   1 : 3                           
39    10   Bet        2     0   -2   -2    2802   1 : 3,14                         
40    22   Bet        3     0   -3   -3    2799   1 : 3,10,14                     
41     7   Bet        4     0   -4   -4    2795   1 : 3,10,14,22                   
42    16   Bet        5     0   -5   -5    2790   1 : 3,7,10,14,22                 
43    36   Bet        6     0   -6   -6    2784   1 : 3,7,10,14,16,22             
44    21   Bet        7     0   -7   -7    2777   1 : 3,7,10,14,16,22,36           
45    33   Bet       16     0   -16 -16    2761   2 : 3,7,10,14,16,21,22,36       
46    12   Bet       18     0   -18 -18    2743   2 : 3,7,10,14,16,21,22,33,36     
47    33   Bet       20     72  -20  52    2795   2 : 3,7,10,12,14,16,21,22,33,36 


I don't think this is THE way to play Mr. D system, this way u have to use a progression, and this progression becomes more than explosive (see picture, I stopped at 28 numbers because tired of such big numbers) if u don't get a repeater within the first 17/18 spins, after that no BR (and table limits) would be able to survive.
There must be another way to play dyksexlic system, a more dynamic way to bet (if there really is one).

regards

LiZrD
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: lizard911 on May 06, 2009, 12:00:07 PM
I don't think this is THE way to play Mr. D system, this way u have to use a progression, and this progression becomes more than explosive (see picture, I stopped at 28 numbers because tired of such big numbers) if u don't get a repeater within the first 17/18 spins, after that no BR (and table limits) would be able to survive.
There must be another way to play dyksexlic system, a more dynamic way to bet (if there really is one).

regards

LiZrD

This brings up an interesting point.  You said that you would need a repeater in the first 17/18 spins right?  I think we need to focus on that.  Maybe he is betting on half of the carpet and then betting a different method on the other half.  I think there is a way, we just need to figure it out.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: lizard911 on May 06, 2009, 01:16:21 PM
QuoteMaybe he is betting on half of the carpet and then betting a different method on the other half.  I think there is a way, we just need to figure it out.

Yes, the very same thing I was thinking ... half the carpet. But it's hard to figure out how to bet the other half.  :scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 01:16:26 PM
I think it has something to do with betting on 1-18 or 19-36, then the numbers themselves on the side opposite to the even bet side you are playing.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 01:44:37 PM
Im all out of clues, i have no idea how D's system work.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: MXkid77 on May 06, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
I can't get this thought out of my head that he has adapted the parachute to his method. He does not play a progression but follows the last number hit with the parachute, leaving all the chips in the bet positions. Using the table payout as the progression...?????

IE: Exits:

5   >> place a chip on 1-18
30 >> place a chip on 3rd dozen and leaves the chip on 1-18
13 >> place a chip on 3rd line, leave chips on 3rd dozen & 1-18
Etc..........

Lizzard, the screenshot i sent last night was using this method, but it eventually tanked.... More thought is needed

Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 01:56:32 PM
Man, where is dyksexlic when you need him anyway?
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 03:09:47 PM
Every part of my mind wants to say that this system doesn't exist.  It's just that there is something in my gut telling me that it does!
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: vix on May 06, 2009, 03:53:17 PM
I have no idea of how this system could work.  But i'm trying to think along even though I know very little about roulette.
The things that come to mind when I read some of the posts, is that sometimes things seem to become complicated especially with the progressions.
So, I don't know if it helps, but as far as I can remember he wrote that he would trust his 5 year old daughter to play this system for him.  Meaning it must be quite simple to apply. 
An other thing he wrote was that he ALWAYS plays some numbers and SOMETIMES plays all numbers.  So he never plays 1 number, right?

Good luck to all!
Vix
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: 2nd12forlife on May 06, 2009, 06:54:29 PM
he was a pure scammer
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: RPro75 on May 06, 2009, 07:06:56 PM
Quote from: 2nd12forlife on May 06, 2009, 06:54:29 PM
he was a pure scammer
My mind says yes, but my gut tells me no...
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Sealine on May 06, 2009, 07:10:58 PM
Quote from: 2nd12forlife on May 06, 2009, 06:54:29 PM
he was a pure scammer

How would you know?
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Kingpin on May 06, 2009, 07:22:07 PM
Interesting thoughts here, makes one think again.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Natural9 on May 06, 2009, 07:25:12 PM
I have not posted on this topic before but have been following it

In his last post he mentions a 38 spins cycle assuming we are playing the american wheel we would track one spin then play up to another 38 spins to end a cycle that being if we not repeat for 37 spins the 38th spins has to repeat in theory that is unbeatable but we surely would need more the 2700 units odd to accomplish this

Just my 2 cents worth

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: Stepydan on May 06, 2009, 07:47:09 PM
Hello all  :)

For those of you who can read french, one of the moderators ("Merlin") of nolinks://forum.casinos.jackpots.net posted a while ago a system-study based upon repeaters.

His starting points were the following :
So he decided to track numbers that repeated at least twice for rounds of 50 - 80 spins, then once one of them showed up, he put chips on say his 8 repeaters, and "prized" each one of those who did hit by adding a chip on it.

In the same time, he started a new tracking every 50 spins, to rest assured he followed the wheel evolving favorites (some were replaced by others).

I have given this a try on bet voyager and DB, I can confirm that "favorite repeaters" come together. I you happen to have left say 2 to 3 chips on those 6 to 8 numbers at the right time, your BR will skyrocket within 10 to 20 spins.

I have played a little with this system, but have not pushed my thinking too far. Here is what I have tested :


Up to now I haven't dug it further, but I thought this topic does have a relationship with what Merlin from the french forum came up with.
By the way he decided to give it up because he did not want to spend so much time tracking and doing nothing else. I understand, since this can take ages in a brick and mortar casino...

However, maybe we can all together mix this with other clues left by the Dyksexlic 38 spins cycle. And as for the pain of patiently tracking, maybe this would perfectly suit a bot.

Cheers  :)

Stepydan.
Title: Re: EVERYBODY, Please read this.....
Post by: vix on May 07, 2009, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: Carpanta link=topic=8673.  msg52757#msg52757 date=1241607659
I leave this for you.   Take a look, please. 

6 different numbers in the first 6 spins
play those 6 numbers for next 6 spins   now spin 12                     
spin 7  bet previous number
spin 8 bet 2 previous numbers
spin 9 bet 3 previous numbers
spin 10 bet 4 previous numbers
spin 11 bet 5 previous numbers
spin 12 bet 6 previous numbers
play first 6 numbers for next 6 spins  now spin 18
play second  6 numbers (spins 7/12) for next 6 spins now spin 18
spin 13 bet previous number
spin 14 bet 2 previous numbers
spin 15 bet 3 previous numbers
spin 16 bet 4 previous numbers
spin 17 bet 5 previous numbers
spin 18 bet 6 previous numbers
play first 6 numbers for next 6 spins now spin 24         
play second 6 numbers for next 6 spins now spin 24
play theird 6 numbers for next 6 spins now spin 24
spin 19 bet previous number
spin 20 bet previous 2 numbers
spin 21 bet previous 3 numbers
spin 22 bet previous 4 numbers
spin 23 bet previous 5 numbers
spin 24 bet previous 6 numbers
play first 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 30
play second 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 30
play theird 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 30
play fourth 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 30
spin 25 bet previous number
spin 26 bet 2 previous number
spin 27 bet 3 previous number
spin 28 bet 4 previous number
spin 29 bet 5 previous number
spin 30 bet 6 previous number
play first 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
play second  6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
play theird 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
play fourth 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
play fifth 6 numbers for 6 spins now spin 36
spin 31 bet previous number
spin 32 bet 2 previous number
spin 33 bet 3 previous number
spin 34 bet 4 previous number
spin 35 bet 5 previous number
spin 36 bet 6 previous number

Now 1 number left without a repetition before?
I leave for mathsboys if any kind of progression in each respective group. 

Cheers,
Carlos



I´m not sure if I understand this right, but I thought it was an interesting idea.   Has anyone else looked into this?

A question for you Carlos.   U say, bet six first numbers untill spin 12 and at spin 7 u say bet previous number.   That means you double bet the number at spin six, that´s not right is it?

Regards,
Vix