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Title: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: RPro75 on May 09, 2009, 02:54:12 AM
I thought it worthy to start a new thread about the system I have discovered while researching the elusive Dyksexlic theory.  I have tested it to 500 spins at a time and it has only risen in profit.  I will tell you that it is based on repeats on the numbers 0-18.  I am hesitant to post it and the test results for obvious reasons.  I have just completed another test of 100 spins, and again it rose.  If this continues, this may be an ideal system for the real wheel and playing 75-100 spin sessions.  If it consistently or always is in profit after 100 spins, it will be a wonderful system to take to the casino every day and win roughly 100-175 units. I will start by posting the spin numbers that I scored the hits on and the bankroll at that point.  We will see where that leads.  If I get a positive response, I may post a little more info.  The beginning bankroll is 400 units.  Happy hunting!

  Spin #          Bankroll
       1               400
       10             404
       20              430
       33              447
       48              466
       61              483
       70              508
       80              520
       83              553
       97              561
       100            564   
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: RPro75 on May 09, 2009, 03:19:48 AM
Bad news.  The sixth test tanked in 83 spins.  This is still a very good system I believe, however, it is not Dyksexlics method.  Well, back to the drawing board for me.  Worst case scenario, I added a decent system to my arsenal.
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: Davemd on May 09, 2009, 03:42:10 AM

Hi Rpro,

          even though it did tank I'd still like to know what the system of method was,

                                                                                                               Regards,

                                                                                                                          Davemd.

                                                                                                               
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: RPro75 on May 09, 2009, 05:18:20 AM
Quote from: Davemd on May 09, 2009, 03:42:10 AM
Hi Rpro,

          even though it did tank I'd still like to know what the system of method was,

                                                                                                               Regards,

                                                                                                                          Davemd.

                                                                                                               
Let me do a little more testing, if it turns out that it can produce a profit, I'll PM it to you.  It won 5 times, for a total of 461 units, when it tanked the last time, it lost 391 units.  It does involve a slight progression, so it can't be D's method.
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: Davemd on May 09, 2009, 05:19:57 AM

Ok Rpro thanks my friend,

                                 Davemd.
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: RPro75 on May 09, 2009, 10:48:33 AM
It looks like I am getting about a 50% win rate with this system.  The really strange thing is that is seems to work so much better on a European wheel.  It is amazing to see some of the unexplainable oddities that occur within the game of roulette.  This is what gives me hope that there is a grail.  I am also testing a new system I developed based on the "movements" that happen on the roulette wheel.  It looks pretty promising.  More info to follow.
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: RPro75 on May 09, 2009, 12:57:26 PM
This is something I have been working on.  It is not so much a system, but a betting strategy.  It is a series of 4 bets that has in most cases been able to produce a profit in sessions that are 50-75 spins.  This is a 65 spin session of actuals from my local casino.  I will dispay the session from RX and see if anyone can produce the 4 bet series. 

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout                   
  0                                       400                                 
  1    35   Bet      3     4   -3   1     401    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
  2     6   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    398    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
  3     0   Bet      5     18  -5   13    411    1 : Street(4-6)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
  4    34   Bet      3     4   -3   1     412    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
  5    15   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    409    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
  6     4   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    406    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
  7     1   Bet      5     0   -5   -5    401    1 : Street(4-6)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
  8     4   Bet     13     24  -13  11    412    2 : Street(1-3),Street(4-6)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
  9    17   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    409    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
10    26   Bet      5     6   -5   1     410    1 : Street(16-18)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
11    30   Bet      5     6   -5   1     411    1 : Street(16-18)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
12     8   Bet      5     0   -5   -5    406    1 : Street(16-18)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
13     4   Bet     12     0   -12 -12    394    2 : Street(7-9),Street(16-18)
2 : Split(0-00)
6 : High (19-36)
14    27   Bet     39     40  -39  1     395    4 : Split(0-00)
5 : Street(4-6),Street(7-9),Street(16-18)
20 : High (19-36)
15     7   Bet     39     60  -39  21    416    4 : Split(0-00)
5 : Street(4-6),Street(7-9),Street(16-18)
20 : High (19-36)
16     8   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    413    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
17     9   Bet      5     12  -5   7     420    1 : Street(7-9)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
18    18   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    417    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
19    23   Bet      5     6   -5   1     418    1 : Street(16-18)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
20    33   Bet      5     6   -5   1     419    1 : Street(16-18)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
21    17   Bet      5     12  -5   7     426    1 : Street(16-18)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
22     2   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    423    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
23     3   Bet      5     12  -5   7     430    1 : Street(1-3)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
24     7   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    427    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
25     6   Bet      5     0   -5   -5    422    1 : Street(7-9)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
26    30   Bet     13     14  -13  1     423    2 : Street(4-6),Street(7-9)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
27    00   Bet     13     36  -13  23    446    2 : Street(4-6),Street(7-9)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
28    18   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    443    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
29     7   Bet      5     0   -5   -5    438    1 : Street(16-18)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
30    10   Bet     13     0   -13 -13    425    2 : Street(7-9),Street(16-18)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
31    34   Bet     39     40  -39  1     426    4 : Split(0-00)
5 : Street(7-9),Street(10-12),Street(16-18)
20 : High (19-36)
32    26   Bet     39     40  -39  1     427    4 : Split(0-00)
5 : Street(7-9),Street(10-12),Street(16-18)
20 : High (19-36)
33    11   Bet     39     60  -39  21    448    4 : Split(0-00)
5 : Street(7-9),Street(10-12),Street(16-18)
20 : High (19-36)
34    00   Bet      3     18  -3   15    463    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
35    15   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    460    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
36    34   Bet      5     6   -5   1     461    1 : Street(13-15)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
37    28   Bet      5     6   -5   1     462    1 : Street(13-15)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
38     7   Bet      5     0   -5   -5    457    1 : Street(13-15)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
39    27   Bet     13     14  -13  1     458    2 : Street(7-9),Street(13-15)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
40    27   Bet     13     14  -13  1     459    2 : Street(7-9),Street(13-15)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
41    00   Bet     13     36  -13  23    482    2 : Street(7-9),Street(13-15)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
42     9   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    479    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
43    32   Bet      5     6   -5   1     480    1 : Street(7-9)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
44    20   Bet      5     6   -5   1     481    1 : Street(7-9)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
45    31   Bet      5     6   -5   1     482    1 : Street(7-9)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
46    20   Bet      5     6   -5   1     483    1 : Street(7-9)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
47    10   Bet      5     0   -5   -5    478    1 : Street(7-9)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
48    33   Bet     13     14  -13  1     479    2 : Street(7-9),Street(10-12)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
49     8   Bet     13     24  -13  11    490    2 : Street(7-9),Street(10-12)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
50    27   Bet      3     4   -3   1     491    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
51     4   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    488    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
52    21   Bet      5     6   -5   1     489    1 : Street(4-6)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
53     6   Bet      5     12  -5   7     496    1 : Street(4-6)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
54    15   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    493    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
55    28   Bet      5     6   -5   1     494    1 : Street(13-15)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
56    14   Bet      5     12  -5   7     501    1 : Street(13-15)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
57    22   Bet      3     4   -3   1     502    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
58    19   Bet      3     4   -3   1     503    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
59    16   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    500    1 : Split(0-00)
2 : High (19-36)
60    33   Bet      5     6   -5   1     501    1 : Street(16-18)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
61     9   Bet      5     0   -5   -5    496    1 : Street(16-18)
1 : Split(0-00)
3 : High (19-36)
62     2   Bet     13     0   -13 -13    483    2 : Street(7-9),Street(16-18)
2 : Split(0-00)
7 : High (19-36)
63    34   Bet     39     40  -39  1     484    4 : Split(0-00)
5 : Street(1-3),Street(7-9),Street(16-18)
20 : High (19-36)
64    28   Bet     39     40  -39  1     485    4 : Split(0-00)
5 : Street(1-3),Street(7-9),Street(16-18)
20 : High (19-36)
65    00   Bet     39     72  -39  33    518    4 : Split(0-00)
5 : Street(1-3),Street(7-9),Street(16-18)
20 : High (19-36)
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: lizard911 on May 09, 2009, 01:42:30 PM
Hi RPro,

it seems you always cover 0/00 and 19-36 starting from 1 unit (SPLIT 0/00) and 2 units (19-36) and then increasing the units when needed for a hit to produce a profit.

1) When a number from 1 to 18 is spun you bet on its street (number of units depends on how many streets u are betting) and u win if u get a repeating street
2) When a number from 19 to 36 is spun you are covered
3) When 0 or 00 is spun you win

Whenever u reach a new BR high u restart (1 unit 0/00 + 2 units 19-36)

Is this the way u play ?

Just something I don't understand:
u mentioned 4 bets, why 4 ? I counted just 3 SPLIT 0/00 , HIGH 19-36 , STREETS.

and then

5    15   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    409    1 : Split(0-00) 2 : High (19-36)
6     4   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    406    1 : Split(0-00) 2 : High (19-36)

why at this point u didn't bet street 13-15 ?

cheers

LiZrD
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: MattyMattz on May 09, 2009, 01:45:43 PM
nice breakdown Lizard.

MM
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: RPro75 on May 09, 2009, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: lizard911 on May 09, 2009, 01:42:30 PM
Hi RPro,

it seems you always cover 0/00 and 19-36 starting from 1 unit (SPLIT 0/00) and 2 units (19-36) and then increasing the units when needed for a hit to produce a profit.

1) When a number from 1 to 18 is spun you bet on its street (number of units depends on how many streets u are betting) and u win if u get a repeating street
2) When a number from 19 to 36 is spun you are covered
3) When 0 or 00 is spun you win

Whenever u reach a new BR high u restart (1 unit 0/00 + 2 units 19-36)

Is this the way u play ?

Just something I don't understand:
u mentioned 4 bets, why 4 ? I counted just 3 SPLIT 0/00 , HIGH 19-36 , STREETS.

and then

5    15   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    409    1 : Split(0-00) 2 : High (19-36)
6     4   Bet      3     0   -3   -3    406    1 : Split(0-00) 2 : High (19-36)

why at this point u didn't bet street 13-15 ?

cheers

LiZrD
Excellent, my friend, you got the idea!  It isn't foolproof, and it does use a progression, but if the numbers spin in your way, you can do OK with this.  I have 4 bets that I use, basically I guess you could call it a 4 stage progression.  You only move on to the next bet if you lose, if you win on 18-36, you stay at the current bet level, if you win on a street, you begin again.  Here are the four bets:

Bet 1 - split 0/00(1 unit)/18-36 (2 units)
Bet 2 - split 0/00(1 unit)/street that hit(1 unit)/19-36(3 units)
Bet 3 - split 0/00(2 units)/streets that hit-2(2 units)/19-36(7 units)
Bet 4 -split 0/00(4 units)/streets that hit-3(4 units)19-36(17 units)

Technically, there are only 3 bets that you make, but 4 stages.  At the 4 th and final stage, you will betting 19-36, 3 streets, and 0/00, for a total of 29 numbers.  Remember, if you hit just 19-36, you will always profut 1 unit, so you leave your bets at this point and spin again.  You will only move on to the next stage after a loss.  If one of your streets hits, or 0/00, you start again with Bet #1.  This, of course, is no holy grail but is a pretty good way to play.  If the numbers go your way, you can make 100 units or so pretty easy.

Also, Lizard, it looks like you caught a mistake I made, I should have bet that street 13-15.  Good catch.
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: lizard911 on May 09, 2009, 02:18:28 PM
Thanks for your clarification  :good:
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: greatlakes on May 09, 2009, 02:24:03 PM
RPRO75 Nice system.  Problem I have is there is a min.  $10 bet inside and outside and it goes up to $20 on weekends.  What would be the best approach?
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: RPro75 on May 09, 2009, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: greatlakes on May 09, 2009, 02:24:03 PM
RPRO75 Nice system.  Problem I have is there is a min.  $10 bet inside and outside and it goes up to $20 on weekends.  What would be the best approach?
Gee, that's kind of steep.  I have to be honest with you and tell you it in my opinion it is not a good idea to try this with those minimums.  I am able to play quarter units at my local casino, so it's a little different.  You could really get hurt playing with those size units if this tanks on you.
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: lizard911 on May 09, 2009, 02:47:46 PM
QuoteBet 1 - split 0/00(1 unit)/18-36 (2 units)
Bet 2 - split 0/00(1 unit)/street that hit(1 unit)/19-36(3 units)
Bet 3 - split 0/00(2 units)/streets that hit-2(2 units)/19-36(7 units)
Bet 4 -split 0/00(4 units)/streets that hit-3(4 units)19-36(17 units)

Bet 4 - split 0/00(4 units)/streets that hit-3(5 units)19-36(20 units) <- I changed here 5 units for streets and 20 for 19-36 because 4 and 17 weren't enough for a profit

This is the progression for European single 0 roulette
Bet 1 - straight 0(1 unit)/18-36 (2 units)
Bet 2 - straight 0(1 unit)/street that hit(1 unit)/19-36(3 units)
Bet 3 - straight 0(1 unit)/streets that hit-2(2 units)/19-36(6 units)
Bet 4 - straight 0(2 units)/streets that hit-3(4 units)19-36(15 units) <- break even
OR
Bet 4 - straight 0(2 units)/streets that hit-3(5 units)19-36(18 units) <- profit

By the way nice system RPro :)

Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: lizard911 on May 09, 2009, 03:22:18 PM
QuoteAt the 4 th and final stage, you will betting 19-36, 3 streets, and 0/00, for a total of 29 numbers.

Just a thought, if we use double streets instead of streets at the last stage we can cover more numbers, the stages reduced from 4 to 3 and the progressions changed as follow ...

American double 0 roulette
Bet 1 - split 0/00(1 unit)/18-36 (2 units)
Bet 2 - split 0/00(1 unit)/double street that hit(2 units)/19-36(4 units)
Bet 3 - split 0/00(3 units)/double streets that hit-2(8 units)/19-36(20 units) <- cover 32 numbers

European single 0 roulette
Bet 1 - straight 0(1 unit)/18-36 (2 units)
Bet 2 - straight 0(1 unit)/double street that hit(2 units)/19-36(4 units)
Bet 3 - straight 0(1 unit)/double streets that hit-2(6 units)/19-36(14 units) <- cover 31 numbers

cheers

LiZrD
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: RPro75 on May 09, 2009, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: lizard911 on May 09, 2009, 03:22:18 PM
Just a thought, if we use double streets instead of streets at the last stage we can cover more numbers, the stages reduced from 4 to 3 and the progressions changed as follow ...

American double 0 roulette
Bet 1 - split 0/00(1 unit)/18-36 (2 units)
Bet 2 - split 0/00(1 unit)/double street that hit(2 units)/19-36(4 units)
Bet 3 - split 0/00(3 units)/double streets that hit-2(8 units)/19-36(20 units) <- cover 32 numbers

European single 0 roulette
Bet 1 - straight 0(1 unit)/18-36 (2 units)
Bet 2 - straight 0(1 unit)/double street that hit(2 units)/19-36(4 units)
Bet 3 - straight 0(1 unit)/double streets that hit-2(6 units)/19-36(14 units) <- cover 31 numbers

cheers

LiZrD
Nice!
Title: Re: My Newest System Discovery
Post by: celiza427 on May 09, 2009, 10:37:46 PM
Wow, yet another really clever system.    :clapping:

Also, nice alteration lizard!  I only play the Euro wheel so I appreciate the info  :thumbsup: