Hi everyone,
In recent weeks, I feel there has been a lot of attacks on me that were unwarranted and undeserving. Mostly everyone at this forum has been great. That is why I enjoy using this forum. I love the game of roulette and I enjoy testing and coming up with new ways to play and then sharing with the forum in hopes it will help someone make some money or save some money. Also, I think that bouncing ideas off of others helps me see things I normally would not have. That is my hobby. I know that I am on the forum a lot the past few days and that is because due to the devastation of the tourism industry here in Arizona, I have been laid off. I use the forum and stay in a lot because I am trying to save money. My girlfriend works but only part time as her hours have been cut too. Now more than ever it is important for me to make $40-$50 a day playing roulette. Why am I sharing information about my personal life with you? Well, because I am so upset about what is happening over on RF and I wanted to take a moment to set the record straight. Here is what is going on:
-It is common knowledge that I got banned from there about a week or so ago because everyone started attacking me and accusing me of posting false test results (which I never have and never will).
-Since I have been gone, they started a thread about me (which they named after me) and continue to talk about me to this moment.
-Some of the things they have said have been hurtful, and NONE of them are true. Here is a sampling:
He,REPRO,just moved my topic/as he is moderator there/where I criticise him
for posting other peoples ideas on VLS-the rolling pattern of 8---the roling pattern of 6 dos.not repeating in same cicle---
WHICH I HAVE POSTED HERE,NOW HE IS POSTING ON VLS.as his masters ideas.
What an idiot this guy is.....I believe he never seen casino in his life,and he is living on clouds.
...Iboba
Okay, over at the VLS site (I consider Victor a true friend of mine) keep an eye on the "new" poster. Charles Edward Hampshire with 6 posts. Following Rpro around as they compliment each other. Something fishy. Thats the problem with message boards. You can be whoever you want to be and as MANY people as you want to be. You'll understand, just watch. Ken
Where is copy and paste when I needed it! lol Its all deleted now. You can just "see it" somehow, its obvious with suspicious posts. I might post alot but I dont post to get attention or have fake followers. Ken
it is possible RPro is just a lonely guy... and wants people to like him?
Coming back to the magic number six!
.1 RPros systems aren't really his. (He fiddles with them his own way from already created systems.)
.2 He changes progression in most tests in order to get that winning result on paper.
.3 He never reports a single loss.
.4 He resorts to unbelievably childish responses to constructive criticism.
.5 He slags off other peoples systems on other forums as soon as he loses with his own money.
.6 (and most importantly) He has some other posters on forums (Not a lot but, but quite a few.) working with him together, for people to believe his 'fantastic' results.
I think he suffers from narcissistic personality disorder :(
(This is just a few, there is a lot more if you look for them)
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First of all, let me address the "multiple names theory". I have only one screen name and it is RPro75. If I wanted to be on RF (which I don't because frankly it's not a very good forum), I would have created another screen name and gone back on. However, I don't do idiotic things like that. I think is is pretty sad to run a person off of a forum and then sit back and talk about them after they are gone. They even talk about the systems I post here. I guarantee you that after one of them reads this, they'll be talking about it over at RF. Finally, did it ever occur to those close-minded people that the reason why I post a lot of positive test results are because my systems are pretty good? Maybe that is what this is all about to begin with. I am not after "followers" like some wannabe cult leader. I am simply a nice person looking to help others find some of the success that I have had.
@ RF Forum Members
I know it is hard for you to believe that I actually don't want to be a member of that forum, but try to at least grasp the idea. Please stop talking about me. I don't talk about all of you over here. Do you realize how foolish you are being? You are gossiping like a pack of schoolgirls!
@ everyone who has been kind and sent all of the great and supportive PM's and E-mails
Thank you so much and I will continue to try and make new and exciting ways to play. I look forward to working with all of you as we strive to beat this game. Thank you so much for your kind words. There are some very mean, hurtful, and jealous people in these forums. I will not let that deter me and ruin the enjoyment of my hobby. I wish I knew why some hate me so much.
RPro (aka RPro aka RPro)
Hey Rpro I understand where you're coming from with the job situation. Many people have resorted to gaming as a means on increasing their income. That has been my situation for at least a year.
I don't know about others, but I appreciate the fact you share your system ideas. You may borrow here and there (I seen others do it.)
Why people are angry at you, perhaps because you stand up for yourself and not allow yourself to be bullied.
There are also the casinos and system sellers that think you're getting too much attention, especially if any of your creations live up to what you claim. To me, that is the heart of the issue.
Hang in there Rpro. I care.
No offence Chris, but aren't you a multi millionaire? Why would you need to win $50 a day and also stay inside to save money?
Don't take any of the attacks to heart, most people are just jealous cause they aren't very successful at the game.
Quote from: Shorty on May 16, 2009, 01:32:18 AM
No offence Chris, but aren't you a multi millionaire? Why would you need to win $50 a day and also stay inside to save money?
Don't take any of the attacks to heart, most people are just jealous cause they aren't very successful at the game.
Yes, my family and I are very wealthy, but that does not mean that I don't want to work and it also doesn't mean that its OK to start spending my savings and retirement money. If I am not careful and don't work, the money will go a lot quicker than you think. Being well off does not mean that you can just flop around the house all day and suck off money you have in the bank. Also, a lot of my money is tied up in investments and the stock market (which is not faring very well these days) as well as things like savings bonds, cd's, ira's and money markets and some real estate. It is one thing to obtain a large sum of money, it is another to maintain your wealth through proper investment and money management. I also have all of the bills that others have like a mortgage, utilities, 2 car payments, insurance, etc. I do this because I truly enjoy it. I like playing roulette, designing systems, and posting in the forum. I don't like the stigma that seems to be attached with it though. Hope that answers your question to your satisfaction.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on May 16, 2009, 01:31:49 AM
Hey Rpro I understand where you're coming from with the job situation. Many people have resorted to gaming as a means on increasing their income. That has been my situation for at least a year.
I don't know about others, but I appreciate the fact you share your system ideas. You may borrow here and there (I seen others do it.)
Why people are angry at you, perhaps because you stand up for yourself and not allow yourself to be bullied.
There are also the casinos and system sellers that think you're getting too much attention, especially if any of your creations live up to what you claim. To me, that is the heart of the issue.
Hang in there Rpro. I care.
Thanks for your support, Proof. You have been there with me from the start and I appreciate it. I don't know if the casinos really care about any system since all systems will lose because of the house edge, but maybe it is more about them not wanting people to have an organized way of playing that can diminish the house edge a little. Do you think so?
Yes, to a degree. VLS goes worldwide. Moreover, casinos really do not like the idea of people increasing their income at their expense. They want people to lose and lose quickly (think bad progressions and big bets).
Moreover what you're doing might affect system sellers, who may not like the idea of a popular free system poster that "wins a lot" and appears to have a following.
Rpro,
I can kind of see why they acted the way they did. When someone claims to win $50. a day regularly, they tend to sound like someone that's trying to sell a system or generate interest in a system that will soon be offered for sale. Most intelligent people already know that it's simply not possible to win in the long run using a roulette system. They know that it's mathematically impossible. It would appear that these people have overlooked the fact that you have just been lucky in your recent trips to the casino. Consequently, they have missed out on an opportunity to perhaps learn a fun system.
It might help if you just let these people know that you are not some kind of a system seller and that you are not endorsing system sellers.
Anyway, that's just my view.
Regards,
Herb
Quote from: Herb on May 16, 2009, 02:18:01 AM
Rpro,
I can kind of see why they acted the way they did. When someone claims to win $50. a day regularly, they tend to sound like someone that's trying to sell a system or generate interest in a system that will soon be offered for sale. Most intelligent people already know that it's simply not possible to win in the long run using a roulette system. They know that it's mathematically impossible. It would appear that these people have overlooked the fact that you have just been lucky in your recent trips to the casino. Consequently, they have missed out on an opportunity to perhaps learn a fun system.
It might help if you just let these people know that you are not some kind of a system seller and that you are not endorsing system sellers.
Anyway, that's just my view.
Regards,
Herb
I would think it is quite obvious I am not a system seller since I freely post every system I create here for download and have done so since becoming a member. I also do not believe it is luck but skill and a knowledge of the game and pattern recognition that allows me to win consistently. It is not hard to get up $50 when you know what you are doing. If it is luck, then I'm damn lucky just about every day. I don't care who believes it either because I know the truth and that is really all that matters. Thank you for your opinion.
Rpro,
If you're going to last around here, then you need to lose the attitude. That will not be tolerated for very long. I'm not your enemy, lighten up.
I simply stated my view and a fact about systems.
I do have a question for you though, and please don't take it the wrong way.
QuoteHi Charles, glad to have you aboard. On behalf of myself and the other Mods, let me extend you a warm welcome. We look forward to having such a distinguished roulette professional among us in the forum.
Why do you view this Charles guy as a professional gambler when others see a conman at work?
Quote from: Herb on May 16, 2009, 02:32:27 AM
Rpro,
If you're going to last around here, then you need to lose the attitude. That will not be tolerated for very long. I'm not your enemy, lighten up.
I simply stated my view and a fact about systems.
I do have a question for you though, and please don't take it the wrong way.
Why do you view this Charles guy as a professional gambler when others see a conman at work?
Well, As I said before, I'm here to stay. I posted that because A) I knew it wasn't really CEH and B) if it was, I did not want to give him the reaction he so hoped for by getting upset. That is his MO. He likes to get people upset so I thought it better to "kill him with kindness". Of course, I could have posted some strange "Quack Meter" all over the forum instead, that might have been a better approach.
QuoteWell, As I said before, I'm here to stay. I posted that because A) I knew it wasn't really CEH and B) if it was, I did not want to give him the reaction he so hoped for by getting upset. That is his MO. He likes to get people upset so I thought it better to "kill him with kindness". Of course, I could have posted some strange "Quack Meter" all over the forum instead, that might have been a better approach.
Posted on: May 15, 2009, 10:32:27 pmPosted by: Herb
Hahah, good answer! Anyway, that should help slow down some of your opponents. I hope they read your response on RR. I have a feeling they attacked you because of your temper. It was probably just a great deal of miscommunication.
Touché :)
By the way, I still think the Quack Meter was a great idea. Relax and you'll see the humor in it one day. :)
Regards,
Herb
;D :lol: :haha:
Still say Herb get's another 500 000 quack points for being corny and cheesy at the same time, hehehehehe
Cheers
Jakk
BTW how is the storm chasing going?
Yes! ;D 500,000
It's been a slow year for the storm chasing. I left this afternoon, but it was a dud.
Storm chasing is popular here in the Midwest.
what is RF?
It's this:
nolinks://nolinks.rouletteforum.net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?
RPro, let's be honest, you've got an attitude problem. You flip out every so often, then apologise and act as if nothing as happened and it's all brushed under the carpet. People react to that. They are not "attacking" you for no reason. The members of RF accusing you of deception was out of order. But really all they did was question your integrity...obviously it's not nice but there are better ways to deal with those types of issues than calling your antagonists a bunch of jealous a$$holes, *oc*suckers and *ildo lickers. It's time to forget about RF and Hampshire and move on. It's becoming tiresome for everyone. No one cares any more.
Quote from: Number Six on May 16, 2009, 09:39:11 AM
RPro, let's be honest, you've got an attitude problem. You flip out every so often, then apologise and act as if nothing as happened and it's all brushed under the carpet. People react to that. They are not "attacking" you for no reason. The members of RF accusing you of deception was out of order. But really all they did was question your integrity...obviously it's not nice but there are better ways to deal with those types of issues than calling your antagonists a bunch of jealous a$$holes, *oc*suckers and *ildo lickers. It's time to forget about RF and Hampshire and move on. It's becoming tiresome for everyone. No one cares any more.
I would love to believe that no one cares anymore. I wish that were true, then I could concentrate more on developing some great systems (although I'm still doing OK at it). When CEH stops putting derogatory things about myself, Victor, and other VLS members on his site and they stop gossiping about me like schoolgirls on RF, then I'll finally accept the fact that nobody cares anymore.
Don't fight this battle. Just forget about "CHE", eventually he'll get medicated.
Quote from: Number Six on May 16, 2009, 02:10:17 PM
Don't fight this battle. Just forget about "CHE", eventually he'll get medicated.
That's good advice, and I have already begun to ignore CEH. Thank-you.