Ok guys...I have been testing this system for the last month and found it to perform pretty good. Also the progression that I use, has gone rite to the end and lost only once. Perhaps we can find a better progression.
I will try to explain the way the system works as best that I can..."you know what it
's like...you know how to play a system, but when it comes to explaining how to perate it on paper it, gets a bit hard. I'll give it a go though.
Also I have sent a copy to Roulette Extreme to see if they can write me up a code just to see how it holds up over thousnds of spins, but this depends on how complex the system is for them to code...otherwise I have to pay to have it done. See what happens.
Anyway here it is.
It's based on 12 number splits...the numbers we use are 3-6, 7-10, 15-18, 19-22, 27-30, 31-34...so a total of 6 chips...one on each split.
(I have recently just started to test this group of splits as well(31-32, 10-7, 8-11, 12-15, 24-27, 22-23)
and they have a pretty good strike rate also, but all of my tests in the last month have been done on the first mentioned numbers above, so stick with them for now.
RULES
1) Wait till one of the numbers above HIT'S, but the number that shows, must show after at least two numbers that are not in list above. (eg: 1, 5, 10 start bet)
2) Once it shows, bet 3 times on the splits above with progression of $1,$1,$2, (totaling of $24)
3) If no win happens within the 3 spins, stop betting and wait till one of the numbers above appears again. Once it hits, commence to bet 3 times again with next progression $3,$5,$8. If any number above hits (you win) you start again with first progression, but remember to apply RULE 1...there must be two numbers drawn before you start betting again with 112.
4) If no win repeat rule 3, but with a new progression $12, $19, $29.
Just repeating. Once a win is hit you must stop betting reset progression and wait till one of the above numbers hit's again, BUT, MUST WAIT TILL THERE IS AT LEAST 2 NUMBERS SPUN THAT ARE NOT IN THE GROUP OF NUMBERS ABOVE. You only wait for two numbers when you are starting a new game at 1,1,2.
Also you can start a new game directly after a win, if the pattern appears as so; eg:
1
5
10 bet on next
36L
0 L
23 W
You can now start new bet again on the next spin, due to the fact that there is two numbers (36 and 0) before the win spin number 23.
Example spins
1
28
10 commence betting with progression 1,1,2
33 L
36 L
19 L
stop betting
28
31 commence betting on next spin with next progression 3,3,4
7 W
stop betting...start new game...wait for 2 numbers that are not in the group of numbers above to start new sequence game.
1
28
10
commence betting 3 times again with 1,1,2
9
2
28
Stop betting
0
5
30
9
23 commence betting on next spin with next progression 3,5,8
9
25
6
Stop betting
4
12 commence betting on next spin with next progression 12, 19, 29
1
6
24 W
After win wait till one of our numbers to hit, before betting again. Next number was 23, but you would not commence betting due to there is not two other numbers before it that are not part of the list above.
23
13
18
10
Commence betting 3 times again with 1,1,2.
1
5
5
Stop betting
15 commence betting on next spin with next progression 3,5,8
27 W
Start new game from 112, but remember, only when you get the two numbers drawn that are not in the group above.
I hope I have explained it clear enough for you to understand. Hope you like it.
Regards,
spinout.
Hey Spinout,
this sounds like a variation of the "supersplits" thread over at rouletfourm. I've created a number of spreadsheets for the supersplits system and could probably modify one of them (for testing) to suit this method of play. If you'd like me too, just send me a PM and I'll see what I can do.
Cheers,
Matt
Hi Matty...I got the idea playing these numbers when I used to play the corners, (1,2,4,5 - 8,9,11,12 - 13,14,16,17 - 20,21,23,24 - 25,26,28,29 - 32,33,35,36). I would have some good wins, but those dreaded numbers (3-6, 7-10, 15-18, 19-22, 27-30, 31-34) used to hit and wipe me out. No mater what I did I could never beat them. So I thought perhaps I'll go with the numbers instead of against them and started watching them and then noticed a pattern.
I noticed that whenever one of these numbers hit, another number from the group wouldn't be far behind to hit again. Playing rite through, would deplete your BR pretty quick though, that's why I only bet three times, stop betting and wait until another group number hits, before commencing the next progression. Give it a go you will be surprised how often these numbers hit.
Spinout.
Hi Spinout, thanks for sharing this system. I should be able to do a longer test in a couple of days but looking good so far-only got to the 2nd progression in once in the session & put on 52 units in 45 mins.
I think if the last progression could be reduced so the bankroll could not be completely at risk then this looks to be good long term...could there be a kind of plus coup for the 2nd & 3rd set of bets to reduce the risk?
Switcher, [smiley=welcome/welcome.gif] to the forum.
:thumbsup:
switcher,
How are you mate? Good to hear you are having succsess with it. If you could test it over that many spins, that would be terrific, switcher. I haven't tried the pluscoup, but I'm sure it could be worth while trying. If I get a chance to try it with the pluscoup, I'll give it a go and post the results.
Switcher...
Here you go...I did a little run with the pluscoup, but not all to good. Finished under, but at one stage was at +98 and would of walked if playing for real. Anyway gives you an idea. I personally prefer to use normal progression, because the ups and down are so frustrating with this pluscoup. It might perform better if you change it a little and bet 4 or 5 times then stop and wait...up to you. Hope this helped switcher.
29 no bet
34 no bet
25 no bet
35 no bet
0 no bet
25 no bet
36 no bet
27 hit
18 1 w 12
12 no bet
24 no bet
9 no bet
27 hit
31 1 w 24
6 no bet
18 no bet
34 no bet
12 no bet
36 no bet
27 hit
3 1 w 36
33 no bet
6 no bet
25 no bet
16 no bet
34 hit
4 1 24
13 1 12
25 1 0
15 hit
11 1
15 1 w 12
7 no bet
27 no bet
33 no bet
13 no bet
11 no bet
19 hit
1 2 -12
26 2 -24
13 2 -36
5 no bet
28 no bet
33 no bet
28 no bet
2 no bet
32 no bet
29 no bet
29 no bet
22 hit
4 2 -60
6 2 w -50
22 no bet
19 no bet
35 no bet
27 no bet
30 no bet
1 no bet
0 no bet
16 no bet
14 no bet
16 no bet
12 no bet
21 no bet
18 no bet
10 hit
16 3 -68
23 3 -86
3 3 w -50
15 no bet
24 no bet
5 no bet
0 no bet
17 no bet
20 no bet
15 hit
0 4 -74
29 4 -98
23 4 -122
31 hit
32 4 -144
7 4 w -100
33 no bet
33 no bet
34 hit
33 5 -130
20 5 -160
13 5 -190
3 hit
22 5 w -135
24 no bet
0 no bet
25 no bet
36 no bet
25 no bet
4 no bet
29 no bet
35 no bet
9 no bet
0 no bet
6 hit
11 6 -171
27 6 w -105
36 no bet
31 no bet
20 no bet
22 no bet
9 no bet
19 no bet
35 no bet
24 no bet
32 no bet
15 hit
2 7 -147
25 7 -189
23 7 -231
20 no bet
21 no bet
20 no bet
17 no bet
33 no bet
11 no bet
4 no bet
16 no bet
0 no bet
34 hit
7 7 w -154
15 no bet
33 no bet
21 no bet
26 no bet
25 no bet
26 no bet
9 no bet
0 no bet
13 no bet
19 hit
34 8 w -66
35 no bet
1 no bet
25 no bet
27 hit
18 9 w 33
26 no bet
28 no bet
26 no bet
2 no bet
15 hit
35 1 27
7 1 w 38
20 no bet
30 no bet
13 no bet
15 no bet
9 no bet
21 no bet
0 no bet
7 hit
31 1 w 49
36 no bet
23 no bet
28 no bet
25 no bet
8 no bet
6 hit
8 1 33
13 1 27
9 1 21
26 no bet
29 no bet
27 hit
27 1 w 32
35 no bet
15 no bet
33 no bet
27 no bet
8 no bet
21 no bet
21 no bet
29 no bet
4 no bet
14 no bet
33 no bet
33 no bet
4 no bet
6 hit
8 2 20
2 2 8
16 2 -4
24 no bet
6 hit
25 2 -16
23 2 -28
0 2 -40
20 no bet
19 hit
20 $2 -52
13 2 -64
5 2 -76
26 no bet
26 no bet
10 hit
3 $2 w -54
22 no bet
36 no bet
31 no bet
20 no bet
23 no bet
9 no bet
20 no bet
36 no bet
22 hit
4 3 -72
18 $3 w -39
10 no bet
18 no bet
13 no bet
12 no bet
30 hit
13 4 -63
27 $4 w -19
22 no bet
30 no bet
1 no bet
22 no bet
3 no bet
12 no bet
5 no bet
29 no bet
12 no bet
0 no bet
8 no bet
26 no bet
25 no bet
0 no bet
21 no bet
8 no bet
26 no bet
4 no bet
30 hit
28 5 -49
12 5 -79
0 5 -109
27 hit
29 5 -139
1 5 -169
35 5 -199
7 hit
29 $5 -229
34 5 w -174
15 no bet
33 no bet
10 no bet
7 no bet
10 no bet
25 no bet
1 no bet
29 no bet
26 no bet
5 no bet
0 no bet
9 no bet
30 hit
19 6 w -108
26 no bet
35 no bet
25 no bet
21 no bet
8 no bet
4 no bet
9 no bet
5 no bet
8 no bet
26 no bet
15 hit
10 7 w -97
36 no bet
19 no bet
29 no bet
20 no bet
29 no bet
16 no bet
26 no bet
10 hit
14 8 -145
33 8 -193
20 8 -241
2 no bet
29 no bet
5 no bet
31 hit
19 8 w -153
20 no bet
16 no bet
14 no bet
0 no bet
21 no bet
35 no bet
3 hit
2 9 -207
5 9 -261
11 9 -315
1 no bet
2 no bet
5 no bet
9 no bet
22 hit
3 9 w -216
30 no bet
18 no bet
1 no bet
12 no bet
25 no bet
11 no bet
5 no bet
17 no bet
3 hit
31 10 w -106
17 no bet
24 no bet
24 no bet
16 no bet
28 no bet
23 no bet
0 no bet
35 no bet
25 no bet
3 hit
18 11 w 15
3 no bet
18 no bet
5 no bet
1 no bet
7 hit
29 3 -3
35 3 -21
9 3 -39
23 no bet
13 no bet
5 no bet
25 no bet
22 hit
11 3 -57
3 3 w -24
24 no bet
21 no bet
7 hit
32 4 -48
14 4 -75
20 4 -99
7 hit
19 4 w -55
18 no bet
5 no bet
5 no bet
10 hit
1 5 -85
3 5 w -30
6 no bet
20 no bet
31 no bet
17 no bet
28 no bet
30 hit
3 6 w 36
10 no bet
28 no bet
3 no bet
28 no bet
13 no bet
4 no bet
10 hit
36 1 30
11 1 24
17 1 18
27 hit
35 1 12
19 1 w 23
35 no bet
10 no bet
28 no bet
12 no bet
22 hit
19 2 w 45
32 no bet
18 no bet
21 no bet
1 no bet
20 no bet
17 no bet
18 hit
30 1 w 56
10 no bet
4 no bet
13 no bet
24 no bet
5 no bet
29 no bet
10 hit
15 1 w 67
11 no bet
20 no bet
11 no bet
12 no bet
5 no bet
21 no bet
15 hit
19 1 w 78
1 no bet
4 no bet
5 no bet
15 hit
33 1
35 1
5 1
2 no bet
25 no bet
14 no bet
28 no bet
32 no bet
1 no bet
29 no bet
14 no bet
31 hit
8 1 72
35 1 66
2 1 60
10 hit
34 1 w 71
3 no bet
36 no bet
3 no bet
36 no bet
14 no bet
10 hit
2 2 59
34 2 w 81
31 no bet
10 no bet
33 no bet
34 no bet
11 no bet
2 no bet
10 hit
31 1 w 92 I would of left the table at this amount of cash, but we will see how far we can push it.
24 no bet
25 no bet
10 hit
24 1 86
32 1 80
2 1 74
29
10 hit
5 1 68
31 1 w 79
25 no bet
22 no bet
24 no bet
6 no bet
30 no bet
13 no bet
2 no bet
20 no bet
5 no bet
9 no bet
5 no bet
12 no bet
32 no bet
21 no bet
3 hit
9 2 67
21 2 55
0 2 43
15 hit
28 2 31
27 2 w 65
16 no bet
1 no bet
18 hit
32 3 47
12 3 29
21 3 11
10 hit
0 3 -7
34 3 w 26
17 no bet
4 no bet
29 no bet
1 no bet
17 no bet
8 no bet
32 no bet
29 no bet
1 no bet
7 hit
26 4 2
23 4 -22
29 4 -46
28 no bet
3 hit
9 4 -70
19 4 w -26
27 no bet
25 no bet
Well at least you could have walked at +98! :) Good test spinout.
Just a question on results - on the first win you won on #28 & you won later on #11 - is that a typo?
I would be tempted to do a plus coup on the sets of bets - so 1,1,2 for rule 2, then if that loses 2,2,4 for rule 3, then go back to 1,1,2 when bankroll plus again. You would still need a higher progression for rule 4. Have a stop loss after 9 losses then start again if bankroll allows. Will have to do a test tomorrow.
Hey spinout,
just ran a quick test of 500 numbers from dublinbet and here are the results:
Spins: 502
End Profit: -816 (ouch)
Highest it got: +102 (near the start)
Number of betting opportunities: 76
Winners: 39 (39 during 1st progression, 9 during 2nd progression, 3 during 3rd progression)
Losers: 24
It had some good runs but the progression completely kills you (if you lose all 9 bets, you're down -480 and it's hard to recover.
I'm still working on the spreadsheet to make it add the bets for you. Right now it just tells you when you have a betting opportunity and if you win or lose.
Cheers,
Matt
Hey Matty, ;)
don't know if you remember my corner system from a couple of months ago. :D
Exactly the numbers minus these splits! :D I did found that these numbers (splits you tested) do like to follow each other. Try playing it like this. ;)Wait for one of these numbers to pitch. bet 1123 If you win anywhere within this progression, stop and look for new trigger. If you loose throughout progression, stop and look for new trigger.
Did a lot of testing. Lots of spins. +/- 1600 units won +/- 550 lost.
Some sessions I did end with losses but majority ended with good wins.
First qualify the table. If it doesn't look like it's good for these splits play the other 24 numbers without progression. Works well. If the table qualifies play those splits. Must have 3 out of 4 wins to qualify.
Cheers Mate!
Jakkalsdraai [smiley=beer.gif]
yeh it is possibly a loser progreesion will kill you i did some test and got similar resuilts goes good for awhile then back to back to back progression losers you win some early then give all back and then some
dunno if this helps or not
Cheers Rodney
How are you guys?
Switcher...thanks for letting me know. I found that the 28 should be 18 and regarding the 11,the win should of been on the next line witch was 15, so minus another $6 there, ha...sorry about that stuff up.
Matty...thanks for doing the test. Doesn't look to good, eh? Back to the drawing board I guess...I'll keep playing around with it and if I find anything consistent, I'll post it here. Also regarding spread sheet...thanks.
Jakkalsdraai...If I understood you correct...you basically bet when one of the splits show, without having to wait for the two non group numbers to appear first, as the rule says in original method. So if say for example 10 hits, I bet. If 15 shows I win...so do I bet again immediately on the next spin? Thanks.
Hey Spin, ;)
Yip, if 10 is spun, you bet. :thumbsup: Then 15 comes up you win. ;D Do not bet next spin. Wait for another 'trigger' So now after 4 spins 19 hits, now bet again. If win wait for trigger again. :thumbsup:
Believe it or not but I have 15 or so cards from my casino with recorded spins.
Very possitive results with this method.
I must state though that if I qualified each card beforehand, I would of even been better off. If the table doesn't qualify, like I've mentioned in the previous post, then believe me the remaining 24 numbers will! Play them either corners, with progression, splits with prog or straight up with prog.
To qualify the table, play exactly like I have described above but in virtual play... not for real. I said that if you had like 3 out of 4 wins, play. Yes you'd loose 42 units, best with 3 wins = 36 units. You will notice quickly though that 10-12 w's in a row, winning streaks, happens with this method.
A couple of months ago we tested playing the corners system. Someone then (sorry cannot remember who) noticed then that we should play the splits you are referring to but with Victor and Lanky's LW system. Cannot remember what happened after that though cause I still concentrated on the remaining corners.
Still think that combining with Their LW system might be the way to go.
Cheers!
Jakkalsdraai
Jakkalsdraai,
Hi Jak...I have noticed the streaks also. I'll do a test on some the archive numbers of real spins and post my findings. Thanks mate.
spinout.
Jakkalsdraai,
Not so good on this run...down about $48, but still ok. You just have to leave the table once you are well in front...say $60 to $100. :thumbsup:
start with $500 bank
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23
9
20
36
22
4 494
18 w 506
10
18 w 518
13
12
30
13 516
27 w 524
22
30 w 536
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22
3 w 548
12
5
29
12
0
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26
25
0
21
8
26
4
30
28 542
12 536
0 524
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1
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7
29 554
34 w 566
15
33 560
10 w 572
7
10 w 584
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30
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25
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10 w 608 I would of walked about here, ha ha.
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19
29 602
20 596
29 584
16 566
26
10
14 560
33 554
20 542
2 524
29
5
31
19 w 536
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16
14
0
21
35
3
2 530
5 524
11 512
1 494
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22
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12
25
11
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17
3
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24
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23
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25
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29 548
35 542
9 530
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22
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24
21
7
32 512
14 506
20 449
7 w 476
19
18 w 488
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5
10
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6
20 488
31 w 500
17
28
30
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10
28 506
3 w 518
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13
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10
36 512
11 506
17 494
27 w 530
35
19
35 524
10 w 536
28
12
22
19 w 548
32
18
21 542
1 536
20 524
17 518
18
30 w 530
10
4 524
13 518
24 506
5 488
29
10
15 w 500
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21
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15
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35 500
5 488
2 470
25
14
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29
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31
8 464
35 458
2 446
10 w 482
34
3 w 494
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3
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14 482
10 w 506
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34
31 w 518
10
33 512
34 w 524
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10
31 w 536
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25
10
24 530
32 524
2 512
29 494
10
5 488
31 w 500
25
22
24 494
6 w 506
30
13 500
$500 B/R
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23
9
20
36
22
4 494
18 w 506
10
18 w 518
13
12
30
13 516
27 w 524
22
30 w 536
1
22
3 w 548
12
5
29
12
0
8
26
25
0
21
8
26
4
30
28 542
12 536
0 524
27 w 560
29
1
35
7
29 554
34 w 566
15
33 560
10 w 572
7
10 w 584
25
1
29
26
5
0
9
30
19 w 596
26
35
25
21
8
4
9
5
8
26
15
10 w 608 I would of walked about here, ha ha.
36
19
29 602
20 596
29 584
16 566
26
10
14 560
33 554
20 542
2 524
29
5
31
19 w 536
20
16
14
0
21
35
3
2 530
5 524
11 512
1 494
2
5
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22
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30
18 w 518
1
12
25
11
5
17
3
31 w 530
17
24
24
16
28
23
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35
25
3
18 w 542
3
18 w 554
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1
7
29 548
35 542
9 530
23 512
13
5
25
22
11 506
3 w 518
24
21
7
32 512
14 506
20 449
7 w 476
19
18 w 488
5
5
10
1 482
3 w 494
6
20 488
31 w 500
17
28
30
3 w 512
10
28 506
3 w 518
28
13
4
10
36 512
11 506
17 494
27 w 530
35
19
35 524
10 w 536
28
12
22
19 w 548
32
18
21 542
1 536
20 524
17 518
18
30 w 530
10
4 524
13 518
24 506
5 488
29
10
15 w 500
11
20
11
12
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21
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19 w 512
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4
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15
33 506
35 500
5 488
2 470
25
14
28
32
1
29
14
31
8 464
35 458
2 446
10 w 482
34
3 w 494
36
3
36 488
14 482
10 w 506
2
34
31 w 518
10
33 512
34 w 524
11
2
10
31 w 536
24
25
10
24 530
32 524
2 512
29 494
10
5 488
31 w 500
25
22
24 494
6 w 506
30
13 500
2 494
20 482
5 464
9
5
12
32
21
3
9 458
21 452
0 440
15 w 476
28
27
16 470
1 464
18 w 488
32
12
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10
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34 w 494
17
4
29
1
17
8
32
29
1
7
26 488
23 482
29 470
28 452
3
9 446
19 w 458
27
25 452
Hey Spin,
Yip nothing's a guarrantee.
Note though the streaks that the other 24 numbers ran. If you flat betted those streaks...wow! Test that a nd see what ya get. Point I'm trying to make is that one has to combine both systems. your 12 number splits as well as the other 24 numbers. Whether with Vic and Lanky's LW method or one's own rules.
Cheers Mate!
Jakkalsdraai