Hi mates!
i have an other System made for U!!!!!!
i will not be so enthusiasm this time and come and tell u that it s the HG!
but............1 thing is that i know for sure!
ITS A GREAT SYSTEM!!!!
The only thing i need is TESTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
we must all do Hell lots of tests and see how its going
my tests in 100 spins gave profit of +240 chips!!!!!
i think its also preety safe!!!
maby a BR of 100 - 150 chips is OK!
These are the only reasons i desided to put some time to this system1)couse the progration is Very smart and the resault is to be safe !
2)couse u play every spin(no tracking)
so lets expose it!(its a tweek on an other system...but i put my brain on it ;))
so pretty easy!!! isn t that a Relief??? lol
We start betting 1 street...(anything we like couse we don t need to tell that again....Roulette is Random)
we bet that street for 11 times(spins)...if we win befor 11 spins as we all know we have a profit...so we do that again from the start with any street we want...
But if we don t have a winer in 11 spins we do this thing exactly!!!!!
we put in a second street but this time we bet 2 chips in the 1st and 2 chips in the 2nd!
if we have a winer in the 11 spins we take the winner bet out!!u dont have to get out the wining street....couse 1 more time i will say that Roulette is Random...the point is only to bet 1 street with the 2 chips on it....
so if the other street that is left wins too....There u go!!!!u are in profit again!!!!!!
But if the 2 streets with the 2 chips on them doesn t win in 11 spins.....u bet in a 3d street but this time with 3 chips on all of them!
the same here u take out the wining and u live in the losing.......
we do that with every 11 spins that we lose...But don t worryyyyyyyyyyy
.i said don t worry!!!!!!!!!!!!!..at 80% of the times u will win with just 1 street in!!!
happy testings....post ur resaults!!
post ur profit and also the biggest down in chips u had until u were in profit again!!!
i was vety sad watching u not having a good system to test....
spider kiss !!!! All yors mate!!!u are my best tester!
Keep in mind that
If u lose in 11 spins and u bring in an other street .......if when u win the 1 street u are in profit.....u don t need to continue bett the other with the 2 chips!
just start over with 1 chip!!!!
but if u prefer the other way is more dangerous but also more profitable
THE POWER OF THAT SYSTEM IS THAT THE STREETS THEMSELFS ARE GIVING US THE CHIPS WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE PROGRATIONS!!!!
ITS LIKE U HAVE A RICH MAN WITH U AND GIVE U MONEY AVERY TIME U LOSE....LOL
SO I WILL NAME THIS SYSTEM
SELFPAID!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: viper5 on May 17, 2009, 05:34:24 PM
THE POWER OF THAT SYSTEM IS THAT THE STREETS THEMSELFS ARE GIVING US THE CHIPS WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE PROGRATIONS!!!!
ITS LIKE U HAVE A RICH MAN WITH U AND GIVE U MONEY AVERY TIME U LOSE....LOL
SO I WILL NAME THIS SYSTEM
SELFPAID!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Great name!!!
THANKS RPRO!
i will put in in PDF and sell it!
i will adverise it this way!
"DO U WANT A WINING SYSTEM OF ROULETTE THAT NEEDS PROGRATION AND U DON T HAVE THE MONEY TO SUPPORT IT????
THIS THE SYSTEM FOR U
""""THE SELFPAID SYSTEM"""""
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
U KNOW WHAT!!!!
everyone here liked me enthusiasm so:
Maby this is the HG!
;D
lol. I get. Its all random. We all understand. No need to continue to berate and belittle us zelots.
Inovcon
i think ur english are worst than mine
olololololol
Viper 5 this system is as old as there a systemsellers in the world.
What about to test the system first over some months of spins before you make such a sandstorm.
But I´, glad you didn´t start to post graphs of wins that doesn´t exist.
Winkel u are are slow as u always are!!!!
I have already told that its an old system with a tweeking by me!
and I have never posted graphs in any of my system!!!!
so that makes u 2 times slow......
always read my posts 100 times and then tell ur opinion!!!
and remember who u are talking with couse u have passed me for someone else!!!!
I HAVE NEVER POSTED GRAPHS IN ANY OF MY SYSTEM......
DO U REMEMBER NOW?????????
guys, let's not call each other names.
this will make people leave the forum as it will be perceived as a offensive one. we don't want that, do we?
Quote from: viper5 on May 17, 2009, 05:14:49 PM
Hi mates!
I have an other System made for U!!!!!!
I will not be so enthusiasm this time and come and tell u that it s the HG!
but............1 thing is that I know for sure!
ITS A GREAT SYSTEM!!!!
The only thing I need is TESTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
we must all do Hell lots of tests and see how its going
my tests in 100 spins gave profit of +240 chips!!!!!
I think its also preety safe!!!
maby a BR of 100 - 150 chips is OK!
These are the only reasons I desided to put some time to this system1)couse the progration is Very smart and the resault is to be safe !
2)couse u play every spin(no tracking)
so lets expose it!(its a tweek on an other system...but I put my brain on it ;))
so pretty easy!!! isn t that a Relief??? lol
We start betting 1 street...(anything we like couse we don t need to tell that again....Roulette is Random)
we bet that street for 11 times(spins)...if we win befor 11 spins as we all know we have a profit...so we do that again from the start with any street we want...
But if we don t have a winer in 11 spins we do this thing exactly!!!!!
we put in a second street but this time we bet 2 chips in the 1st and 2 chips in the 2nd!
if we have a winer in the 11 spins we take the winner bet out!!u dont have to get out the wining street....couse 1 more time I will say that Roulette is Random...the point is only to bet 1 street with the 2 chips on it....
so if the other street that is left wins too....There u go!!!!u are in profit again!!!!!!
But if the 2 streets with the 2 chips on them doesn t win in 11 spins.....u bet in a 3d street but this time with 3 chips on all of them!
the same here u take out the wining and u live in the losing.......
we do that with every 11 spins that we lose...But don t worryyyyyyyyyyy
.I said don t worry!!!!!!!!!!!!!..at 80% of the times u will win with just 1 street in!!!
happy testings....post ur resaults!!
post ur profit and also the biggest down in chips u had until u were in profit again!!!
I was vety sad watching u not having a good system to test....
spider kiss !!!! All yors mate!!!u are my best tester!
You are desperate for limelight now Viper... nice try though :spiteful:
I DON T KNOW WHAT IS LIMELIGHT
BUT I AM NOT DESPARATE AT ANYTHING...
Nice one viper, so are you picking out any street at random? Is it best to close your eyes & stick a pin in the board? :laugh:
Well I suppose you could you use the same progression with sectors betting on 6 numbers for 11 spins then 12 numbers for a further 11 spins except this time look for a trigger...that might work just as well and you could at least think that physics plays its part in determining which numbers to bet on! :biggrin:
Quote from: viper5 on May 17, 2009, 05:58:16 PM
Winkel u are an idiot as u always are!!!!
I have already told that its an old system with a tweeking by me!
and I have never posted graphs in any of my system!!!!
so that mekes u be an A$$ 2 times......
always read my posts 100 times and then tell ur opinion!!!
and remember who u are talking with couse u have passed me for someone else!!!!
I HAVE NEVER POSTED GRAPHS IN ANY OF MY SYSTEM......
DO U REMEMBER NOW?????????
You're punching way above your weight class here Viper5.
Go take a shower, who knows, when you get out you might have thought up another grail for us.
I DON T GET IT!!!
SOME OTHER MEMBERS SHOW U WORST SYSTEMS AND U LIKE THEM....
THIS 1 I DON T UNDERSTAND WHY U DONT LIKE IT?
WHO IS ABOVE MY WEIGHT??
HAHAHA
Quote from: viper5 on May 17, 2009, 05:58:16 PM
Winkel u are an idiot as u always are!!!!
I have already told that its an old system with a tweeking by me!
and I have never posted graphs in any of my system!!!!
so that mekes u be an A$$ 2 times......
always read my posts 100 times and then tell ur opinion!!!
and remember who u are talking with couse u have passed me for someone else!!!!
I HAVE NEVER POSTED GRAPHS IN ANY OF MY SYSTEM......
DO U REMEMBER NOW?????????
It is more like that winkel did post some graphs of his system..
Quote from: viper5 on May 17, 2009, 07:44:43 PM
I DON T GET IT!!!
SOME OTHER MEMBERS SHOW U WORST SYSTEMS AND U LIKE THEM....
THIS 1 I DON T UNDERSTAND WHY U DONT LIKE IT?
WHO IS ABOVE MY WEIGHT??
HAHAHA
First, to be blunt, I haven't seen one single solitary system that I like enough to bet on here, or anywhere else for that matter.
Second, I don't like this one because it has been put together the way I wrap Christmas presents... five minutes before walking out the door to go visit the recipient.
Third, Winkel is above your weight class for sure and certain.
Good luck Viper5.
Viper,
What is wrong with you?
Are you on something?
Viper, why do you feel the need to abuse people for disagreeing with you? Ever since you learnt the very basics of advantage play, you have been talking down to every single member. Even those with much, much more experience with roulette.
So calm down and stop abusing people, and accept that people don't care that roulette can't be beaten. People believe what they want to believe, in every aspect of life.
Hi Viper,
Thanks for posting your idea. I think I understand how you are playing it. I like it. My initial test(s) showed profit.
It is easy and simple to play.
Atlantis.
I know roulette maths better than simple maths!
atlanitis thanks
with this system u almost always will have profit!
today I will test it for 30 sessons of 100 spins....
if u want to help ursefs do it also
Here is a short test.. It hedl up for 500spins then at one point, when it gets bad, you start to bet everything on the table except zero.. And because increasing 1 unit on all streets every 11 spins doesnt make any diference except a bigger loss on zero, I just run it and hope (actualy not) for profit...
u didn t use it the right way mate!
i told u when u are in profit....u start with 1 street 1 chip
if u don t want this system...i don t care
but anyone that belives in it,,,if he will test it he will make moneyyyy
I did start with 1 street one chip.. But after a while there was no sign of profit.. I didnt said I want it I didnt said I dont want it.. I just posted results
mate...u can t bet 9 streets and don t have at least 4 winners in 11 spins!!!
Quote from: viper5 on May 18, 2009, 08:37:32 AM
mate...u can t bet 9 streets and don t have at least 4 winners in 11 spins!!!
u Lieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
You have been oviously brainwashed, I followed the system as you wrote it, I don't lie.. What is wrong with you, did you expected that people will just post HOLY GRAIL posts? :angel:
Quote from: viper5 on May 18, 2009, 08:37:32 AM
mate...u can t bet 9 streets and don t have at least 4 winners in 11 spins!!!
u Lieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
viper how come you think this cannot happen. I have seen alot of ''strange'' things happen in roullette. for example i picked 22 numbers and seen them sleep for 13 times when testing a preivous system, maybe rare but can happen.
cheers,
mattjono
mattjono is right
from what I posted (tested) you could learn something... You could learn that there should be a stop rule.. Instead of just attacking me... You have alot to learn, and I am sorry that I wasted 15-30min of my life reading and posting in this thread and actuly posted actual results :heat: Instead of typing posts about trying to open our eyes, you should try to open yours, and actualy step out from your world which must be damn hard for you to be so anoying.. :agree:
my friend!!!
thare are other sectets to this system that u don t know!
1st of all ur graph was a joke...fake!!!
I told u above u can t bet 9 streets(27 nums!)and not have at least 4-5 winners...
that meens that these 4-5 winners will take u out the betting on 4-5 streets!!!
so the next 11 spins will be with just 4 streets remaining!!!!!
so only a pesron that don t know roulette at all would belived ur liessss.....
the secret is to make a magic split whan u see that u must bet 4 streets with 4 chips on them.....
its so safe that in my 100 spin tests I never droped more down of 150 chips!!!
here are my resaoults!
test 1) +134
test 2) +59
test 3) +211
test 4)+123
test 5)+312
test 6)+256
test 7)+111
8)+29
9)+176
10)+298
11)+79
12)+327
13)+240
14)+346
so till now 1400 spins +2324 profit that meens 1.6 chips per spin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think isn t too bad!!!!
:)
quack
My God! It is the Holy Grail.
To think of the wasted years we have spent searching when the answer was in front of us. Ignore all the jealous negative comments Viper, I think you've cracked the unbreakable puzzle.
I'm ringing my boss now to pack my job in. Who needs one with this baby. Thank you Viper.
Regards
Clint
Wow Viper, just wow. Are you serious?
SRY I misstested it... This system is AWESOME!!!!
I JUST MADE U A FAVOUR AND MAKED A SYSTEM....
:yahoo: Viper, you have regained your limelight... just for the wrong reason though ;)
hey viper!man yesterday you said roulette is unbeatable with any system.what makes you working on a new system?
also:
if any system wins les than 100% its a losing system -you better live with this mate
Quote from: ikarianman on May 18, 2009, 02:22:51 PM
hey viper!man yesterday you said roulette is unbeatable with any system.what makes you working on a new system?
also:
if any system wins les than 100% its a losing system -you better live with this mate
NO NO you are wrong, you can win with that one... It is simply.........AWESOME, more that just HG!! (just turn graph upside down and you will see the trick)
mates mates....
ok delete the system......
i got bored of all this....
when i was turning down the other members ideas u all told me no to do it...
and now u do it!!!!!
i never said that a math system can beet roulette....
i just told that this is a great power system.
Hi viper,
I like your system.
I tested on Casino Wiesbaden Spielbank Spins for 17/5/09 (yesterday)
Table 3: 373 spins.
Result: +178 units PROFIT!
The way I am playing it is keeping things simple. I wait for first spin then bet that street for up to 11 spins.
If no win comes in 11 spins I continue to bet the same street + I also bet the last coming street (2 streets @ 2 units) for a further 11 spins...
If a win occurs and I am still behind, I REMOVE the winning street bet and continue to bet on the remaining street ONLY (@ 2 units) until a win occurs OR the remainder of the 11 spin sequence expires.
If no win happened and the 11 spins have expired I will continue the bet on the existing street and ADD the last coming street; increasing the bet to 3 units (2 @ 3 units)
etc... etc..
If at any time I reach new highest profit figure, I restart and take the STREET that occurred immediately BEFORE the winning street that I profited on (penultimate spin) and commence betting that ONE street @ 1 unit for the 11 spins again.
Regards,
A.
thanks mate
this is the right play of it...(i just don t care which street to bet...but if u think works for u that way then ok)
keep in mind that if u have a bad sesson and u need to bet 4 streets u can do this:
split the streets!!!!
keep the same amound of chips on the table ...just speread it on more streets...
that will give u the advantage of win faster and have chips to continue ur betting
This is probably,I mean , probably the best system I had ever seen
I am new mem here.
Mr. Viper,could we use this system on both kind of the table,european &american?
Thanks.
i have never played in an american weel mate(and don t call me Mr.)
but i think its the same
of cource couse of the 00 u will have less succes like with any other system.
Hi viper5,
Good. I am glad I got the "gist" of how to play it right!
Hey there is casino near me that has electronic roulette where you can bet minimum UK 10p (ten pence) chips... on streets too :)
Ideal place to try out one night when I get round to it. Certainly it would help keep stakes/risk lower in case of spiralling bets required in extreme bad luck sessions (which I have not come across so far)
A.
atlantis
with any mathematical system u will have Bad sessons....
couse I say all the time the maths is in the advantage of roulette...but with this system u can control ur loss.....
couse u will recoup all the time
I love you mr viper :sarcastic:
Quote from: cabbage on May 18, 2009, 06:54:32 PM
I love you mr viper :sarcastic:
looks like a romance is developing in the forum :haha:
I'll test it too.
Quote from: Shorty on May 18, 2009, 06:25:31 AM
Viper, why do you feel the need to abuse people for disagreeing with you? Ever since you learnt the very basics of advantage play, you have been talking down to every single member. Even those with much, much more experience with roulette.
So calm down and stop abusing people, and accept that people don't care that roulette can't be beaten. People believe what they want to believe, in every aspect of life.
Then why are you here? To mock Viper for his hard work and sharing nature the same way you have done to me and others? Don't post in the thread if you've got nothing good to say or nothing to add to his system.
Excuse me? Where have I mocked your/others work? I have done nothing of the sort. I'm basically the same as you, you believe you are helping people by posting your systems, and I believe I am helping people by mentioning what can and can't work.
I'm asking you to please read what Viper has said in the topic. Things like -
mate...u can t bet 9 streets and don t have at least 4 winners in 11 spins!!!
1st of all ur graph was a joke...fake!!!
etc etc.
You claim you have a "heart of gold" but hold grudges against people that have different believes. Discrimination anyone?
Hi Guys,
I spent one weekend writing the program to test this system.
Over the long run you can gain little money, but not so much..ok
Here are the 2 test I have made.
Test 1 :-
Total Spins :8000
Final Profit :724
Highest Bet per Spin :40$
My lowest Balance was :(-700)
Test 2 :-
Total Spins :10000
Final Profit :622
Highest Bet per Spin :60$
My lowest Balance was :(-2209)
Onething guys 10K of spins means restless 1 Month effort, yet you gain only 600+. Don't know up to you guys.
Regards
Quote from: Allin on May 30, 2009, 02:53:30 AM
Hi Guys,
I spent one weekend writing the program to test this system.
Over the long run you can gain little money, but not so much..ok
Here are the 2 test I have made.
Test 1 :-
Total Spins :8000
Final Profit :724
Highest Bet per Spin :40$
My lowest Balance was :(-700)
Test 2 :-
Total Spins :10000
Final Profit :622
Highest Bet per Spin :60$
My lowest Balance was :(-2209)
Onething guys 10K of spins means restless 1 Month effort, yet you gain only 600+. Don't know up to you guys.
Regards
Congrats on the testing Allin ;)
Testing it the best way to check what anybody is claiming with their posts :good:
& fair play to you 18000 spins it a lot of testing :rtfm:
Herb reckons 10,000 bets placed is the benchmark :o
I wish you well.... :good:
The system's working for me, on about 100 spins. I was wondering though, Allin, you said your balance was -2000 at one point? Does that mean minus 2000 or just lowest was 2000? How many units were u betting each time?