I invented this system (RPro please don't make a PDF file of it if you don't mind.)
Bet 4 chips on 4 lines, the 1/4, the 7/10 (same as first dozen), the 19/22, and the 25/28. if win net +2, if lose, lose -4.
if win bet, second bet is 2 chips on same lines, if win net +4, if lose, lose -8.
if lose first bet, repeat first bet (and go on to second bet if win.)
if win or lose second bet, go back to first bet.
bet ONLY after, and EVERY TIME after, a black/odd (B/O) or red/even (R/E) number hits. so even if you win on a B/O or R/E number, bet again. if/when you win on a B/E or R/O number, wait for a B/O or R/E number to hit. if you lose on a B/E or R/O number, wait for the next B/O or R/E number to hit before betting again.
if you lose to a zero bet again as you were going to. no matter how many times you lose (in a row) if you lost to a B/O or R/E number, bet again (and if win, go to second bet with 2 chips on each line) (and always go back to first bet if/when win second bet.) So your results will always look like this:
W +2
W +4
W +2
W +4
L -8
L -4
L -4
W +2
L -8
W +2
W +4
W +2
W +4
W +2
there is logic to this system but I don't have time to explain it now. Just try it and would appreciate any and all test results. thanx! any questions ask me.
NOTE-- please see my post below RouletteBR's numbers below...
with all your betting lines, you are covering all (20) RO and BE. Both of these groups hits more than the other two groups. I don't have RX but I think this idea certainly has some merit.
Good post, simon.
yep that's the idea. it seems to win well, not dramatically but no dangerous progressions either so no build up of profits just to lose it all. needs the parlay bet to get the edge, and 2 wins in a row are frequent enough when you're betting 2 dozens. it beats my 450 spins from real wheels.
constructive tweaks to make it even better are welcome.
oh, if you need a name for it (for testing), call it... Simon's 4-Line Bet.
Simon,
I made the RX code, but I don't know if it is right, please take a look and give your opinion:
Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 500
1 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
2 33 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 496 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
3 18 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 492 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
4 0 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 488 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
5 12 Bet 4 6 -4 2 490 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
6 29 Bet 8 12 -8 4 494 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
7 36 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 490 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
8 3 Bet 4 6 -4 2 492 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
9 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 492
10 2 Bet 8 12 -8 4 496 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
11 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
12 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
13 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
14 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
15 3 Bet 4 6 -4 2 498 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
16 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 498
17 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 498
18 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 498
19 33 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 490 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
20 28 Bet 4 6 -4 2 492 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
21 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 492
22 11 Bet 8 12 -8 4 496 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
23 7 Bet 4 6 -4 2 498 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
24 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 498
25 5 Bet 8 12 -8 4 502 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
26 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
27 30 Bet 4 6 -4 2 504 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
28 27 Bet 8 12 -8 4 508 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
29 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 508
30 2 Bet 4 6 -4 2 510 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
31 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 510
32 32 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 502 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
33 7 Bet 4 6 -4 2 504 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
34 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 504
35 27 Bet 8 12 -8 4 508 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
36 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 508
37 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 508
38 30 Bet 4 6 -4 2 510 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
39 2 Bet 8 12 -8 4 514 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
40 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 514
41 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 514
42 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 514
43 21 Bet 4 6 -4 2 516 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
44 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 516
45 32 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 508 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
46 23 Bet 4 6 -4 2 510 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
47 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 510
48 11 Bet 8 12 -8 4 514 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
49 4 Bet 4 6 -4 2 516 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
50 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 516
51 17 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 508 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
52 36 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 504 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
53 1 Bet 4 6 -4 2 506 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
54 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 506
55 5 Bet 8 12 -8 4 510 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
56 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 510
57 9 Bet 4 6 -4 2 512 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
58 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
59 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
60 20 Bet 8 12 -8 4 516 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
61 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 516
62 31 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 512 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
63 0 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 508 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
64 31 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 504 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
65 6 Bet 4 6 -4 2 506 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
66 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 506
67 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 506
68 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 506
69 7 Bet 8 12 -8 4 510 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
70 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 510
71 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 510
72 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 510
73 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 510
74 21 Bet 4 6 -4 2 512 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
75 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
76 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
77 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
78 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
79 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
80 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
81 25 Bet 8 12 -8 4 516 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
82 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 516
83 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 516
84 20 Bet 4 6 -4 2 518 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
85 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 518
86 13 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 510 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
87 32 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 506 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
88 2 Bet 4 6 -4 2 508 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
89 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 508
90 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 508
91 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 508
92 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 508
93 23 Bet 8 12 -8 4 512 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
94 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
95 34 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 508 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
96 23 Bet 4 6 -4 2 510 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
97 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 510
98 8 Bet 8 12 -8 4 514 2 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
99 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 514
100 14 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 510 1 : Line(1-6),Line(7-12),Line(19-24),Line(25-30)
The full sheet is on attachment.
Luiz.
thanks, will check those.
actually I wanted it to be a true parlay, so the chips won on the first bet went back into the second bet and nothing more came out of pocket on the second bet, but I don't know how to divide 6 chips (the 5 won and the winning chip) between 4 lines. we could put 3 chips on the first dozen but the 19/22 and 27/30 lines span the 2nd and 3rd dozens, so how do we put 3 chips on those, any suggestions?
wait, let me think, we start with 2 chips on each line, so we start by putting 8 chips out total, if win, net +4 on a win, then you've got 12 chips total on your winning line (the 2 chips that won + 10 paid), so now we have 12 chips we can divide between 4 lines and put 3 chips on each line. RIGHT? actually this would be the better way so it is a true parlay and you are not taking 2 chips out of pocket (out of bankroll) for the second bet (will have to retest my spins this way.)
so really the results should look like...
W +4
W +6
W +4
W +6
L -8
W +4
L -12
L -8
W +4
W +6
also... I am betting against a B/O or R/E number to repeat, any other ideas for betting against a B/O or R/E hit are welcome... (we've got all the B/E and R/O numbers covered in the 4 lines we are betting.)
Quote from: simon on May 20, 2009, 12:58:32 AM
why is there always ONE person in chat-- is someone in there talking to himself?
I'm usually in there waiting for Bruce.
Hey did a quick little test for you. About 70 spins, I messed up on the last bet & should have bet 2 on each DS so in all I would be up +24 units in those 70 spins. Biggest draw down 14. Once I hit 100 units I'll up the bets to the 2nd way you mentioned (2 on each street, then 3)
thanks celiza looking forward to your next test. have not had chance to re-test my spins yet the second way but will soon...
Simon,
Am testing this strategy/covering all R/O B/E/in corresponding lines,for long time now,
but unfortunately, with no great success,it's almost dumy bet,no lose-win bet.
..........................................................................Iboba 8)
ps.with parlay and double parlay,always similar results.
Hi,
I really like to play 2 dozens, which is similar to what you present. Afer reading your post i see it exposes an idea that makes much sense when betting 2 dozens, and i don´t remember seeing it anywhere.
The point is that when betting 2 dozens you will have 2 wins for every loss, aproximatly, so flat betting you lose only the house edge on zeros. But if you do a parlay, say you bet 2 on each dozen and if you win you bet 3 on each dozen and back to first bet, you will win 5 units each 2 bets won in a row instead of the 4 units you would win flatbetting. When playing 2 dozens is normal to see large numbers of wins on a row, so maybe there can be some advantage playing this way.
Quote from: mane on May 20, 2009, 02:24:04 PM
Hi,
I really like to play 2 dozens, which is similar to what you present. Afer reading your post I see it exposes an idea that makes much sense when betting 2 dozens, and I don´t remember seeing it anywhere.
The point is that when betting 2 dozens you will have 2 wins for every loss, aproximatly, so flat betting you lose only the house edge on zeros. But if you do a parlay, say you bet 2 on each dozen and if you win you bet 3 on each dozen and back to first bet, you will win 5 units each 2 bets won in a row instead of the 4 units you would win flatbetting. When playing 2 dozens is normal to see large numbers of wins on a row, so maybe there can be some advantage playing this way.
mane, perheps you d like to check out
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/my-2-section-parlay-method/
I have re-started this thread and description of my system in detail in the new section called "Systems Designed to Exploit the Betting Layout" (see link under "Study Groups" on the home page.) Testers of this system, tweakers, and contributors of other ideas in regards to these strategies are welcome and appreciated. Hope to see you there.