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Title: EC bets
Post by: trylobit on May 23, 2009, 09:31:21 AM
Hi there!

I've been researching EC bets recently.
I have a question for all of you: what is more probable to happen: a change or repetition of the EC?
I know every event has 48,65% of chance to show up every single spin by the law of math.
Although I've seen 14 times in a row of just black numbers. And I've seen only once 9 times in a row of the number alternating high-low-high...
From my test in 100 spin session betting in order to follow one of the EC bets (high comes out, next bet on high, low comes out next bet on low)
gives usually 48-53% of bets won.

What is your experience?

Br
Trylobit
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: Marven on May 23, 2009, 03:28:55 PM
FTL on EC's was one of the first most basic bets I tested when I first got into roulette months ago.
It (of course) won't give you any sort of edge. I wish it was that easy. :laugh:

Here is a couple of random sessions:

FTL on Low/High:

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Flat Betting: -28

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Flat Betting: -15
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: trylobit on May 23, 2009, 09:22:08 PM
That's what I'm talking about!
I don't say I want to play flat bet. All I'm trying to do is to get the best possible way to bet EC.

And the results of -28 and -15 are enough.
Percentage of win:
First example:47,9%
Second example:49,36%

And the longest L in a row is: 9 - not too bad.

Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: Marven on May 23, 2009, 09:27:43 PM
I see your point.

From what I've seen, it's easier to encounter a LLLLLLLLL when playing one of the EC's (e.g. when playing just High, or just Low) than when playing FTL (follow the last) on them.
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: shadowman on May 24, 2009, 03:28:45 AM
Its the same whichever way you play it, if you can get higher than 48% then you have the grail in my opinion.
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: trylobit on May 24, 2009, 07:00:14 AM
Yupi! ;)
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: lucky_strike on May 24, 2009, 08:31:03 AM
You can hovering around 50% to 60% and some times above.

But fluctuation will destroy you after 50 to 100 trails.

You see if you have a win at your first attempt, bet,  then you can continue to play with out losing because the only thing that will happen is that you break even or hit a string of more wins in a row.

If you hit a loss and a win then you stop as even.
If you hit two loses and a win then you are minus 1 and that is no big deal.

The conclusion is that you can not out guess 50/50 but you can find moments where you get ahead and above 50%.

You can divide them into 3 groups and if you can find a bet selection or a trigger that produce a steady distribution of win and loses then you will succeed and find moments when you are beyond 50%.

W
LW
LLW

When you hit a 3 loses in a row you start over or change the game, how you attack it, maybe with a new strategy.

Just want to point out that you have to have some thing that generate and produce winnings.
Let it ride or pick an interval with the principal above.

If you want to know more i can show you in private.
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: lucky_strike on May 24, 2009, 08:33:18 AM
Random against random.

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47 won
26 loss


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27 won
29 loss



Regular system.

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43won
43loss


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50won
46loss

Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: trylobit on May 24, 2009, 08:42:36 AM
@ Lucky Strike
are you trying to say that any bet selection is useless in EC bets?
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: lucky_strike on May 24, 2009, 08:46:24 AM

No i am not saying that and i play even money my self.

LS
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: trylobit on May 24, 2009, 08:58:43 AM
What's your approach Lucky Strike?
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: Nathan Detroit on May 24, 2009, 09:01:38 AM
Dominant : BLACK

R-R-R  then bet Black 1 unit .  If win stop . Loss next bet 2  units  . If win stop.  Loss next bet 2 units.. Win or  loss stop either way.

The  odds of a fourth RED are 15-1. A fifth RED   31-1. A  sixth RED   63-1

Either way you win 1 unit, lose one unit or  lose 5 units.


Just  check out Wiesbaden. usually the fifth bet will be a winner.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: lucky_strike on May 24, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
QuoteWhat's your approach Lucky Strike?

I will reply to that i just have to use a spell checker first...
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: lucky_strike on May 24, 2009, 09:16:49 AM
No one can escape from fluctuation.
Sequence from hell.
But its how we play that define how our fluctuation will find its place around our way of play.

Even if you play random against random you have rules to follow but it is not the same thing as using a bet selection.
No thought or rules to how you play then you could become a blind man ho just throw hes chips away on the carpets layout.

It is good to know if you can pass 5 to 10 years and above with out being hit by a sequence from hell so why not play and have some fun.
Yes it is a game of chance and we can't chance that so I guess some has more luck and skills then others.

Cheers LS
Title: Re: EC bets
Post by: trylobit on May 24, 2009, 09:27:57 AM
Thanks Lucky Strike!
So what's your way of betting? Do you place bets randomly between EC bets?