ok~ you virtual bet red(can be any even) untill you're down so many units(you choose) then you start betting flat betting with the same units you were using in virtual. if you guys are correct(the ones that keep saying it evens out all the time) then as long as your bankroll permits you will come out ahead. now we can step this up.. if you were up units from the virtual betting.. then you could just start betting black cause you would be down units if you were virtual betting black.. right?
has anyone ever tried just going to the casino and flat betting with like $50.. if you make $50 then you leave and if you lose $100 you leave? i mean tried on a continuous basis?
I will help you to get the truth.
First there is a long way to learn how to play roulette and there is a short way to learn how to play roulette.
If I was you I would take the short way.
That means that you talk to some one that has been around for a very long time.
Then he or she can point out the posts that you should read and learn from.
Good Luck.
LS
Quote from: Lucky Strike on June 03, 2009, 06:33:08 AM
If I was you I would take the short way.
That means that you talk to some one that has been around for a very long time.
Then he or she can point out the posts that you should read and learn from.
Good Luck.
LS
The above is good advice... ask Gizmotron, she will be able to help you for sure.
If red has come up 100 times in 150 spins, it doesn't mean that black will show 100 times in the next 150 spins. I thought this is the first thing people learn about roulette?
If black has shown 12 times and red 8 times after 20 spins. You would expect black to be at 22 and red 18 after another 20.
Come on guys, you are better than this.
That's the thing with Roulette. It doesn't have any memory, it has just as much chance of hitting red after 30-40 times as it does hitting black. I've seen the same number hit 3 times in a row, I've seen it happen quite alot actually
I'm always curious when i look at the results of a session at wiesbaden,the outside bets NEARLY aways seemed to have levelled out give or take 10 or 20 spins I'm going to look right now -hold on a second........
table 3 02 06 2009-
RED came out 121 times BLACK came out 123 times
LOW -119 times HIGH-125 times
ODD-123 times EVEN -121 times
Check this out!!!!!!!! Roulette doesn't have a memory but it does have some kind of regularity.
Correction.
I am the only one here that can show you how it works.
I know Marigny and has hes work.
If you want me to I can make a new post and show you how to find correction.
It will not happen the the way you talk about it.
LS
This is how it looks like and it is just one simpel exampel among many.
Series contra singels.
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B..3,00
R..R
B..B +
R..R +
R.....-
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B.....-
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R..R +
R.....-
B..B
R..R +
R.....-
B..B
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B..B +
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B..B +
R..R +
B..B +
R..R +
B..B +
B.....-
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R..R +
B..B +
B.....-
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W W W W W L
W W L
LS
If you was going to aim for some-thing the other way around then it could look like this.
Below is some of many rules to follow.
This is just one method among many you can use.
This one is based upon the law or series and the law of correction.
This one is about small series contra larger series.
To find a qualified signal it has to appear with at least 16 outcomes, that's rule number one.
It has to appear within 50 outcomes, that's rule number two.
You don´t calculate the singels you calculate the series of 2 contra larger series into the window you find.
When you hit a statistical ecart of 3.00 or above you can start to play after the first serie of 3 appears.
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R -------------- 14/2 a statistical ecart of 3.00
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R -------------- a serie of 6
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B ------------ a serie of 3
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R -------------- a serie of 6
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R ------------- 17/1 a statistical ecart above 3.00
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R ------------- a serie of 5
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R -------------- a serie of 6
Hi LS,
Thanks for posting the method. :good: It's very similar to the way I play, when do you take profits and look for the next target? do you have a stop loss?
Fascinating stuff LS,I'm finally getting to where your coming from :thumbsup:
Quote from: Shorty on June 03, 2009, 07:33:03 AM
If red has come up 100 times in 150 spins, it doesn't mean that black will show 100 times in the next 150 spins. I thought this is the first thing people learn about roulette?
If black has shown 12 times and red 8 times after 20 spins. You would expect black to be at 22 and red 18 after another 20.
Come on guys, you are better than this.
i never said it would..
Quote from: Lucky Strike on June 03, 2009, 06:33:08 AM
If I was you I would take the short way.
That means that you talk to some one that has been around for a very long time.
Then he or she can point out the posts that you should read and learn from.
Good Luck.
LS
@ LS, you have been around here for quite some time, maybe you could point us newbies into the right direction (threads). It is realy hard to know what's good and what is rubbish.
@Tangram, how do you play? Do you use the new lw tracker?
Vix
Quote from: Jigga on June 03, 2009, 07:36:47 AM
That's the thing with Roulette. It doesn't have any memory, it has just as much chance of hitting red after 30-40 times as it does hitting black. I've seen the same number hit 3 times in a row, I've seen it happen quite alot actually
i am talking to the people who say roulette always evens.. if it evens out there should be a way to exploit it flat betting.. it might take a really long time.. and like i said if bankroll permits.. cause you will never hit table limit.. i don't care about practicality right now i just was wondering what people think. if it is true and it always evens out (people already disagree with that notion on this thread i think..?) than it seems to me you could beat it this way(practicality not my issue right now)
i think i am trying to take the 'short way'.. lanky has been the biggest help so far.. herb has also helped me.. and i'm really interested in steve morgans methods for some reason.. probably because he says he hits 19/20 times..!
what are gizmotrons methods about?
koreanprideno1,
The even chances
do equalize, but there is no elastic band pulling opposing chances together, as some seem to believe. On the contrary, the actual
difference between the numbers of reds and the numbers of blacks
increases as you get more spins. The common mistake is to confuse the
proportion of reds vs blacks with the
number of reds vs blacks over a large number of spins. This is quite a tricky concept, which is why most continue to misunderstand it. :scratch_ones_head:
Suppose after 100 spins you have 45 Reds and 55 Blacks. The difference between the number of blacks and the number of reds is 10, the proportion of Reds is 45/100 = 0.45
After 1000 spins you might have 470 Reds and 530 Blacks. The actual difference has increased from 10 to 60, but the proportion of Reds is 470/1000 = 0.47.
After 5000 spins it may be 2450 Reds and 2550 Blacks. The difference has again increased to 100, and the proportion is 2450/5000 = 0.49.
So as you take more spins the gap between the number of Blacks and Reds widens but the proportion gets nearer to the theoretical 50%.
It works like this because perfect equality is
just one of many outcomes which may occur, and as you get more spins you increase the number of possible outcomes, so that equality is less and less likely to occur.
Reds and Blacks do "cross over" at points, but it could be thousands of spins before you get parity, and in the meantime the drawdowns would be horrendous. >:D :suicide:
And the above totally ignores the zero! needless to say, adding the zero into the equation doesn't help matters. :'(
Quote@Tangram, how do you play? Do you use the new lw tracker?
Vix,
I'll reply in the "another Lw Tracker" thread, but it'll be tomorrow. :)
tangram.. that's the feeling i have about roulette.. it's not necessarily even but as you get more numbers it does like you said.. i still can't explain it like you said but that's what i was feeling.. i was gonna try and say something like that.. but i had no way to explain what i was thinking.. i still think i can't explain what you said.. i like your post..
Quote from: Tangram on June 03, 2009, 03:21:20 PM
Vix,
I'll reply in the "another Lw Tracker" thread, but it'll be tomorrow. :)
Hey Tangram,
Still wondering how you use the lw tracker, can't find your reply...
Did I miss it?
Regards,
Vix