A massive Herb/Ray 5000-spin challenge starts this section. Go ahead guys! :thumbsup:
victor, do you have the numbers?
victor, i want you to make sure all the results posted are the correct numbers.
i want HERB to call the numbers, all 5000 of them.
Here's the first 20 spins for you to study. I will send the entire set of numbers to Kelly.
17
27
32
20
19
28
34
23
15
17
25
15
32
17
29
3
18
36
20
21
Yipeee! It's on!
We have this section started. I'm eager to see Ray's take on the numbers.
Kelly is a very straight guy so it should be fine. Also, when he is back from the operation, there is the backup with Lanky, who is 100% trustable too.
Ray, with the first numbers displayed, the ball is in your court. Let's get the party started :thumbsup:
play 1,16,24,27,30,33, for 6 spins. :P
20
28
11
3
29
12
lol, completely diferent ;D
J Daniels,
Nobody can win every spin. Even advantage play methods suffer from losing periods. Not hitting for six spins is no big deal.
Six numbers may go more than 60 spins without hitting.
same bet play 1,16,24,27,30,33 6 spins
OOPS.
herb,
how can the same 6 numbers come out in the same exact order and ray is down 72 units? Something is not right.
cd
32
33 hit
22
15
20
18
72 - 36 = -36 units. Only down 36 units. Place your bets. Sorry about posting the same message twice. :)
(Just a quick fyi. Both Kelly and Lanky have the stream in their emails).
play 3,6,9,12,15,18 6spins
19
30
34
33
5
15 hit. Bal is -36 units.
play 1,4,7,10,13,16 6 spins
7 hit
2
0
33
19
29 Bal is -36 units.
play 19,22,28,31,34 6spins
16
36
36
15
15
33
Bal. is -72 units
play 13,14,23,24,35,36
24hit
16
29
20
34
21
Bal. is -72 units
play 13,14,23,24,35,36
All numbers correct so far.
whats the hold up.
31 Sorry, I didn't realize that you had bet.
18
15
33
5
4
Bal. is -108 units. (Still can be a normal random drawdown).
Place your bets.
play 1,2,3,34,35,36 6 spins
14
4
3 hit
24
22
2 hit
Bal. is -72 units.
Place your bets.
that would be -62 play 13,14,23,24,35,36 6 spins
No, that would be -72 units.
27
21
10
6
9
31
Bal. is -108 units. You currently have six hits in 54 spins.
play 7,8,9,28,29,30 6spins
15
0
36
28 hit
23
28 hit
Bal. is -72 units You have eight hits in 60 spins.
Did you give up?
same bet 7,8,9,28,29,30 6spins
20
13
29 hit
9 hit
11
19
Bal. is -36 units.
I'll be back tomorrow. I'm calling it a night.
If Kelly chooses to do so, he can paste the numbers from where I left off on the spreadsheet.
play 1,2,14,13,35,36 6spins
3
11
36 hit
15
24
36 hit
Bal. is 0. You have 12 hits in 72 spins.
should'nt i be at + 10
i was only down -36 the last round.
same bet 1,2,13,14,35,36 6 spins
No, you're at even. You have 12 hits in 72 spins.
12 x 36 = 432
72 x 6 = 432
1hit
21
17
35 hit
21
30
Bal. is 36 units.
play 10,11,12,25,26,27 6 spins
8
29
7
6
36
20
Bal. is 0. You have 14 hits in 84 spins.
same bet 10,11,12,25,26,27 6 spins
14
36
30
36
25 hit
32
Bal. is 0. You have hit 15 hits in 90 spins. Still break even.
same bet play 10,11,12,25,26,27 6spins
10 hit
32
17
11 hit
3
35
Bal. is 36 units. You have 17 hits in 96 spins.
same bet play 10,11,12,25,26,27 6 spins
36
4
26 hit
26 hit
5
6
Bal. is 72 units. You have 19 hits in 102 spins.
play same bet 10,11,12,25,26,27 6 spins
7
9
4
24
34
0
Bal. is 36 units. You have 19 hits in 108 spins.
play 4,5,6,31,32,33 6spins
22
29
7
19
2
24
Bal. is 0. You have 19 hits in 114 spins.
same bet play 4,5,6,31,32,33 6 spins
26
6 hit
4 hit
3
21
36
Bal. is 36
play same bet 4,5,6,31,32,33 6 spins
29
1
6 hit
33 hit
7
2
Bal. is 72
play 13,14,15,22,23,24 6 spins
14 hit
8
2
26
5
8
Bal. is 72 units.
same bet 13,14,15,22,23,24 6 spins
24 hit
18
36
13 hit
0
28
Bal is 108 units.
play 1,4,7,10,13,16 6spins
7 hit
24
7 hit
8
2
32
Bal. is 144 units.
herb can you let me know when your going to take a break and i will do the same.
same bet 1,4,7,10,13,16 6 spins
10 hit
22
28
27
29
8
Bal is still 144 units.
I will be on break for a few hours as well.
play 16,17,18,19,20,21 6 spins
Way to go ray. Keep it up !!
iggy
QuoteWay to go ray. Keep it up !!
iggy
thanks iggy, i only have 4850 spins to go. ;D
13
8
10
35
13
9
Bal. is 108 units. Place your bets.
same bet 16,17,18,19,20,21 6spins
11
27
9
11
33
26
Bal. is 72 units. Place your bets.
play 4,5,6,31,32,33 6spins
32 hit
29
28
1
11
6 hit
Bal. is 108 units.
same bet 4,5,6,31,32,33 6 spins
12
23
33 hit
11
6 hit
8
Bal. is 144 units. Place your bets.
ah what the hell same bet 4,5,6, 31,32,33 6 spins
5 hit
14
6 hit
33 hit
31 hit
1
Bal. is 252 units. Place your bets.
same bet 4,5,6,31,32,33 6 spins
27
11
33 hit
26
2
9
Bal. is 252 units.
play 1,2,3,34,35,36 6 spins
16
31
22
18
17
10
Bal. is 216 units.
play 1,4,7,10,13,16 6 spins
5
19
4
5
32
6
Bal. is 180 units.
play 1,2,3,34,35,36 6 spins
1 hit
24
25
17
1 hit
3 hit
Bal. is 252.
I'll be back tomorrow. (In about nine or ten hours). :)
congratulations guys u are doing really good
( sorry to interrupt )
JD
same bet 1,2,3,34,35,36 6 spins oops.
I would say that betting #43 is a bit wasted.
We may have a small problem.
A friend emailed and pointed out that he has seen this stream before.
After looking into it, He was correct. I have emailed sections of this stream to at least a few people before.
Now, I'm not implying that Ray has access to it, I seriously doubt that he does, but I would like to continue with a different stream if it's ok with Ray.
you gotta be joking, are you serious.
No, I'm quite serious.
Shall we continue?
will this be a new set of numbers or the original?
New wheel. I'm sending a copy to Lanky and to Kelly.
20
3
2
23
36
14
17
32
35
9
17
10
33
0
5
29
11
13
11
18
We can carry your bal. forward if you want. Place your bets. :)
Current bal. is 252.
Sorry Carlitos, It's Ray's game.
its not every day i go around memorising 5000 spins. :o
your freind must have a hell of a good memory, sorry herb i do not believe
this is true, know one can look into a steam of numbers then match them
to a data base somewhere in a file.
what about all my other challenges on the roulette forum where i always came out on top, did i some how tap in to there number data base.
you just cant believe what you are seeing.
if you want to change up numbers just say so no need to come up with
a outragious story because you where being crushed.
i dont care where the numbers come from, you can pull them out of a hat and i will still get the same results, you can make up a stream out of your head and i still would win.
you gave the number to your freinds who you trust but you did not email them to victor like i originaly asked.
i will continue for the benifit of the forum.
i will keep my balance plus the spin count.
i would also like to see the last 6 spins of the original stream.
shall continue .
new spins play 7,8,9,28,29,30 6 spins
>:( Agree with Ray.
I have quite alot of spins as well...sure as hell cannot memorize any of them. Couldn't recognise them if you showd them to me. Just plain ridiculous.
Give 'em hell Ray! :thumbsup:
Jakkalsdraai
Ray,
To date, the only tests I've seen you do were very very short in nature and were of no statistical relevance, and the results were nothing more than common. I don't see your point.
Regarding changing streams. I'm not saying that anyone would have memorized them, just that they would have the files saved to a hard drive for easy access. I'm not saying that you have access to these, only that someone else could easily contaminate our little test. :) Several people have had access to that file in the past.
If I felt that you were cheating, then I would have requested starting the unit count over again. However, I don't think that's neccessary. :)
Here's the next six numbers on the new wheel.
35
31
20
19
7 hit
16
Bal. is still 252 units.
ok herb lets rock,
are sure these new numbers are secure?
i would hate to have to start over again.
same bet 7,8,9,28,29,30 6 spins
10
19
14
7 hit
23
25
Bal. is 252 units.
play same bet 7,8,9,28,29,30 6 spins
24
26
17
30 hit
8 hit
10
Two more hits. :)
Bal. is 288 units.
I agree with Ray. That scenario is preposterous Herb. To even entertain the thought that someone might have access to those spins and find the string of numbers it matches is unbelievable. Your friend is reaching here. Anyone who could remotely remember numbers from a string from 5000 spins also probably has the NY telephone directory memorized. I'm a USCF chess expert and I've played over 20,000 games in tournaments and on the internet and I'll tell you right now I couldn't remember a fraction of those games. Ray's winning and you have to call time out, and start over. Good grief!
cd
i'll be back in a hour play 21,24,27,30,33,36 6 spins
Clothdog,
I thought UFC chess experts were smarter than this. There's nothing preposterous about it. The numbers were the first numbers of the stream. Secondly, I could take any significant spin sequence and find it in a stream of over 100,000 spins if I wanted to do so, by searching for it in Excel.
It's not that someone would remember the stream, it's that certain people already have the stream saved on their computers.
All someone would have to do would be look at the first three numbers on this stream and quickly match it up with the first three numbers on their file in order to see if it was a file that I had already sent them. Understand?
Regarding Ray's winnings: We carried the balance forward. So where's the problem? :)
32
12
1
6
23
32
Bal. is 252. Place your bets.
Play 20,23,26,29,35 6 spins
Ray,
You have only chosen five numbers this time. Is there supposed to be a sixth number? Can we speed the process up just a bit? This is putting me to sleep. [smiley=chat/smile29.gif]
6 4 13 15 22 24 31 33 per 6 spins
Cheers,
Carlos.
This is like watching grass grow. lol.
Carpanta,
Are you playing Ray's system for him?
Lol not at all Herb just curiosity for the stream of numbers. I think grass grows quicker.
QuotePlay 20,23,26,29,32,35 6 spins
sorry for the delay i was away and trying to use my cell phone to connect
i'm back now play 20,23,,26,29,32 6spins
30
6
28
29 hit
11
33
Bal. is still 252. Carpanta, You got two hits. Your bal. is 24 units.
Let's get those bets down quicker. :)
play 4,5,6,31,32,33, 6spins
36 30 23 16 9 3 per 6 spins
12
26
35
26
26
18
Ray's bal is 216. Carpanta's bal is -12 Place your bets, and don't forget to tip the dealer when you win. :)
36 30 23 16 9 3 per 6 spins
-12 right?
Carpanta,
Your bal. was 24 - 36 just bet = -12.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I do have the occasional brain fart.
play 16,17,18,19,20,21 6 spins
20 hit
4
19 hit
7
15
14
Ray's bal. is 252. Place your bets.
36 30 23 16 9 3 per 6 spins
tips must wait for the moment lol
-48
play 1,2,3,34,35,36 6 spins
11
8
32
21
21
23
Ray's bal. is 216. Carpanta's bal is still -48.
36 30 23 16 9 3 per 6 spins
play 7,8,9,28,29,30 6 spins
7 hit
16
3
2
10
1
Ray's bal. is 216. Carpantas bal. is -12.
27 28 36 27 6 31 13 11 per 6 spins
same bet 7,8,9,28,29,30 6 spins
26
16
25
15
30 hit
27
Ray's bal. is 216. Carpanta's bal. is +12 since he had a double unit on the 27. Carpanta, if you can, try and bet exactly six numbers each spin for one unit.
1 11 31 8 15 22 29 per 6 spins
play 21,24,27,30,33,36 6 spins
32
6
3
24 hit
17
25
Ray's bal. is 216 and Carpanta's is -54. Place your bets!
3 9 16 23 30 36 per 6 spins
play 4,5,6,31,32,33 6spins
5
2
11
19
16
8
Ray's bal is 180 and Carpanta's is -54.
#5 is a winner :o
I didn't see number 5.
Ray's bal is 216 then. ( I guess I thought that extra hit was a tip for the dealer. :))
play 2,5,8,11,14,17, 6spins
22
6
17 hit
10
11 hit
15
I hope you guys didn't see this one. I accidently posted it before you had bet. lol.
Ray's bal. is 252. Carpanta's did not change since he didn't bet.
Which part?
Place your bets.
4 11 17 24 31 10
Dinner time. I'll be back.
Animo herb and ray .i see good results mate ::) .
My friend Carpanta also plays ? :o
Regarding the five: Either you placed it late or I didn't see. I corrected it regardless.
Place your bets. :)
play same bet 2,5,8,11,14,17 6 spins
25
37 is 0
18
2 hit
21
16
Ray's bal is still 252. Carpanta's is -90
play 1,2,3,5,8,11 6 spins
Sorry Ray. That's a zero that hadn't been reformatted.
In some of the simulators I use 37 as 0 on the single zero wheels. I went through and changed all of the 37's for this test to zero. I guess I missed one.
Place your bets.
lets go i already bet
15
1 hit
19
7
35
10
Bal. is unchanged at 252.
Please get the bets down faster if you can.
play 20,23,26,29,32,35 6 spines
5
29 hit
36
25
19
6
Bal is still 252
same bet 20,23,26,29,32,35 6 spins
36
36
25
4
15
28
Bal. is 216
play 19,22,25,28,31,34 6 spins
21
0
30
0
18
35
Bal. is 180.
herb,
Understand? What kind of demeaning comment is that? I'd engage you in a face to face battle of wits, but I don't like to whip anybody like yourself who's unarmed. I guess that's why you're not a USCF expert. Obviously you're a master and a wiseass or a master wiseass would be more like it ;D. The two go together. Actually it's a good thing I'm not playing because I'm sure there are people out there that scan their "roulette database" in case they are ever challanged to a contest. Hmmm..I forgot to mention I collect spins from all over the world and I immediately recognized the first 3 spins. Yes they came from Caesars Palace on 3/21/05. Table 45.
cd
Get over it. The comment was called for, and justified.
play 4,5,6,31,32,33 6spins
21
12
6 hit
4 hit
8
2
Bal. is 216
sorry clothdog, you are wrong those first 3 spins came from the flamingo
4\13\74 table 14 i think the dealers name was joe. :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Place your bets.
same bet 4,5,6,31,32,33 6 spins
22
11
29
36
10
20
Bal. is 180
Place your bets.
play 16,17,18,19,20,21 6 spins
8
29
12
30
3
9
Bal. is 144
same bet, 16,17,18,19,20,21, 6 spins
12
19 hit
22
17 hit
16 hit
21 hit
Bal. is 288.
Speed it up if you can.
i gotta play that one back. 8-)
same bet 16,17,18,19,20,21 6 spins
Good idea. It was looking like you were in your death run for a minute.
13
17 hit
17 hit
2
3
12
Bal is at equity high, 324. Not bad! :)
same bet 16,17,18,19,20,21, 6 spins
2
9
23
36
17 hit
31
Still at equity high. 324. You're hanging in there. :)
play 3,6,9,12,15,18 6spins
13
35
36
5
13
27
Bal is 288
play 1,2,3,34,35,36 6 spins
32
10
35 hit
6
6
15
Bal is 288.
play 14,16,17,18,20,23 6 spins
1
20 hit
31
12
34
21
Bal. is still 288.
play 10 11 12 ,25,26,27 6 spins
27 hit
26 hit
13
5
24
30
Bal is back to equity high, 324.
play 7,8,9,28,29,30 6 spins
32
35
28 hit
30 hit
36
35
The bank is now at a new, equity high of 360 units! :)
Correction made! lol :)
good job.
Place your bets.
Ray,
I'm going to call it a night. See you tomorrow.
If Kelly want's to post while I'm gone, that fine too. He has the stream as well.
play, 1,2,3,13,14,15 6 spins
Very strange is that GAMLET did not join this challenge?!?!?
oh well.
22
19
32
4
11
9
Bal. is 324. Place your bets.
same bet 1,2,3, 13,14,15 6 spins
8
6
23
31
15 hit
32
Bal. is 324. Place your bets.
.... why should he Jef? :-? It's only between Herb and Ray...... :D
Carlitos 8-)
Come on Ray. Try and get the bets down a little faster. It's taking forever between spins for you to try and pick your numbers.
i got dial up i keep getting pumped off.
stop rushing me, your the math guru who hast to see 5000 spins. :o
play 1,2,3,34,35,36 6 spins
3 hit
23
1 hit
12
9
34 hit
Bal. is 396
Even 5k spins is a small number. I just want to see if we can get you to break through 3 standard deviations at 5k.
Fewer spins lack any real significance.
play 16,17,18,19,20,21, 6 spins
29
19 hit
17 hit
21 hit
31
29
Bal. is 468.
that was enigmista on steroids. ;)
same bet 16,17,18,19,20,21, 6 spins
LOL. ;D
32
18hit
15
18hit
21hit
9
Bal. is 540
You're the man ray! keep it up brother! How many spins so far? maybe you should try picking lottery numbers! ;D
cd
He's not doing bad. He's probably in around 365 spins.
herb,
if he is up even 1 unit, at the end of 5000, surely this would be considered a moral victory.
cd
Look, I have to admit, it's interesting that he's up 540 units in 365 spins. I want to see him bust through 3 st. devs.
Mathematically, I suspect it will crash though before spin 5k. It takes a while before the 2.7% house edge can dominate the game.
same bet play 16,17,18,19,20,21 6 spins
I do wish he could post his bets sooner though!!! [smiley=1/deadhorse.gif]
25
3
13
21 hit
13
26
Bal. is still 540.
hey take it easy i'm the one who has to get through 3 standerd deviations,what ever the hell that is. :o play 2,5,8,11,14,17, 6 spins
13
16
8 hit
14 hit
33
11 hit
Bal. is 612.
Go ray go !!
Keep winning.
iggy
same bet 2,5,8,11,14,17 6 spins
32
8 hit
35
0
20
33
Bal. is still 612
play 10,11,12,25,26,27 6 spins
9
29
32
11 hit
31
0
Bal. is still 612.
play 13,14,15,22,23,24 6 spins
14 hit
35
34
4
34
16
Bal. is 612.
same bet 13,14,15,22,23,24 6 spins
18
1
35
1
23 hit
20
Bal. is still 612.
same bet 13,14,15,22,23,24 6 spins
6
14 hit
19
18
15 hit
36
Bal. is 648
play 4,5,6,31,32,33 6 spins
4 hit
18
0
30
20
5 hit
Bal. is 684. :) Equity high.
play 7,8,9,28,29,30 6 spins
12
13
3
19
10
9 hit
Bal is still 684.
play 21,24,27,30,33,36 6 spins
1
20
2
29
19
8
Bal. is 648
same bet 21,24,27,30,33,36 6 spins
7
32
10
36 hit
28
17
Bal. is still 648
bet 21,24,27,30,33,36 6 spins
26
29
2
5
22
21 hit
Bal. is still 648.
play 21,24,27,30,33,36 6 spins
;) Well done Ray!
Looking good! mmmmm Hey Herb, ya sweatin yet?
Cheers
Jakkalsdraai
Yes, so far, Ray is doing very well. :)
Ray,
I'm probably going to be coming back late this evening. I'm headed out storm chasing for the next four or five hours.
;D Hehehehehahahahaha, Hey Herb, ya should of stayed here in this thread. A storm is starting to chase you! You don't have to go out chasing storms. The Ray storm is on it's way right here! hahahaha! ;D
Cheers tornado Herb :o
Jakkalsdraai ;)
i herd on my local news channel that there where tornadose that ripped
through herbs home town in kansis city, several people where killed
and alot injured, thousands without power to there homes.
lets hope herb is ok, he did say he was going storm chasing.
Hi Ray,
All is well here. :)
I did indeed go chasing, but I only caught some wall clouds. The damaging tornadoes hit at night, about 3am.
Top winds were just over 220 mph. and did destroy some homes about 5 miles away.
Relieved to hear all is well Herb.... :thumbsup:
ok herb, glade to see your alright, now lets have those numbers.
Going to fetch a new mouse, be back shortly.
0
30 hit
23
30 hit
26
30 hit
Bal. is 720
that was worth the wait.lol
play 21,24,27,30,33,36
31
15
3
7
30 hit
29
Bal. is still 720
same bet 21,24,27,30,33,36
0
35
11
33 hit
25
22
Bal. is still 720
play 2,5,8,11,14,17
7
32
3
29
11 hit
21
Bal. is still 720.
I'm off to bed for the night. :)
play 2,5,8,11,14,17
24
29
32
29
22
33
Bal. 684
play 2,5,8,11,14,17
34
6
28
8 hit
27
9
Bal. is still 684
play 2,5,8,11,14,17
15
15
29
11 hit
26
36
Bal. is 684.
play 7,8,9,28,29,30
7 hit
12
19
22
24
26
Bal. is still 684.
play 3,6,9,12,15,18
Man this site is sloooooonolinksnolinksnolinks to load!
23
16
13
19
32
17
Bal. is down to 648.
play 19,22,25,28,31,34
24
27
30
15
11
13
Bal. is down to 612. Come Ray, Focus! I want to see you hit a 1000 units! :)
play 19,22,25,28,31,34
30
16
11
22 hit
27
5
Bal. is still 612
play 2,5,8,11,14,17
17 hit
22
24
9
26
25
Bal. is still 612
play 19,22,25,28,31,43
19 hit
35
13
33
29
30
Bal. is still 612. (I assumed that number 43 was actually number 34.)
play 10,11,12,25,26,27
13
7
1
4
12 hit
18
Bal. is still 612.
play 10,11,12,25,26,27
20
8
6
2
11 hit
0
Bal. is still 612.
20
8
6
2
11
0
play 1,2,3,34,35,36
2 hit
34 hit
3 hit
0
25
17
Bal. is 684.
(I accidently posted this group of six a while ago. I deleted it pretty quick, but I wasn't sure if you saw it. lol.)
play 19,22,25,28,31,34
24
10
27
13
19 hit
34 hit
Bal. is 720
play 1,4,7,10,13,16
35
30
21
24
23
16 hit
Bal. is still 720
play 21,24,27,30,33,36
Hey guys? What happened? No posts for 5 days. :'(
This challenge was going so well. :thumbsup:
i placed my bet,where all waiting on herb.
He's running scared Ray..... ;D ;D
Yes, I'm running scared. Hold me! [smiley=chat/smile3.gif]
I do have a question though, of what am I supposed to be scared?
Relax Herb ;)
I was only messing about..... :-[
Take it easy.....[smiley=beer.gif]
I'm still out of town and I'm relaxed. :)
That's good to know Herb.... ;)
Long may it continue..... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
We'll continue with the testing, just as soon as I get back to the stream on my home computer.
If I stay out here for long, then I'll have it emailed to this computer.
You still got Tornado problems @ home then Herb??
If so hope you get it sorted A.S.A.P. :thumbsup:
@RAY
Ray, podrías darnos alguna pista de como sacas los números...asi no se nos cae la baba...
Un saludo cordial, Edgardo.
Ray, you could give us some clue as to get the numbers ... so we were not falls baba ...
A cordial greeting, Edgardo
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Challenge is over?
No, I just got bored. Playing six numbers at a time was like watching the grass grow. It was taking too much time.
I know this thread is terribly old, but I'm just curious as to whether or not anybody knows what exactly Rays method of play was in this challenge...it seemed to work pretty well...
Quote from: rjeaton1 on June 16, 2009, 02:41:45 AM
it seemed to work pretty well...
He did even better in the challenges at Steve's forum.
Quote from: rjeaton1 on June 16, 2009, 02:41:45 AM
I'm just curious as to whether or not anybody knows what exactly Rays method of play was in this challenge...
To my knowledge, Ray uses some numerology/magic stuff, or whatever.
Nothing he has shared.
Regards,
Marven
He did say to read as much as you can can about the game and random. Nothing specific although he was a fan of John Patrick.
It's possible to learn something from Numeris Titanus blog. :-)
cheers
This is the best winning strategy that i have read in this forum.
:thumbsup:
Ray has clearly won his challenge without progression and playing 6 numbers only, incredible. Hats off. :clapping: