I have seen many strategies and systems on this forum
have play many of those,some lose some won....but also have
learned many things and among of all I believe I have found what
you are people looking for.........HOLY GRAIL..........
Really.So when you will post it,or is it for sale???
Quote from: iboba on September 23, 2009, 03:15:44 AM
I have seen many strategies and systems on this forum
have play many of those,some lose some won....but also have
learned many things and among of all I believe I have found what
you are people looking for.........HOLY GRAIL..........
Hello, iboba.
That's a big call mate!
....You gonna back it up?
Quote from: iboba on September 23, 2009, 03:15:44 AM
I have seen many strategies and systems on this forum
have play many of those,some lose some won....but also have
learned many things and among of all I believe I have found what
you are people looking for.........HOLY GRAIL..........
What is the point of your post?
I guess it is just like a trailer for a Movie...THE HOLLY GRAIL..coming to a theatre near you.
Iboba
Thanks mate, I lost it but I am glad that you have found it. Please return the holy grail.
:spiteful:
That was a nice post to make everyone so jumpy..but if you do have it..the holy grail .. have a nice time with your wins in the Bahamas. :ok:
I knew it was somewhere...thanks for finding it!
Interesting post Iboba. I believe if you havne't found the holy grail then it's something damn close to it. I like the systems/methods you've provided for us in the past. Please more info~
Ljudi,kaj niste znali da su hrvati lumeni?
Sorry for croatian lang. .
Sorry guys,
Something went wrong here,did explain
the method,but there is nothing typed.
Typo error.So will do it again tonight.
......................Iboba 8) 8)
Mate
I don't know if the HG is going to help with the attitude of dealers on live table, land casino. But please help us and tell us more. Does the HG work on live table, bad dealer. You know the kind - sort spins, no more bets. Removing winning bets, dispute on dispute.
Can the casino trace the play to counter it? I have seen guys playing 2 dozen to the max and the 2 spin they stay in 1 3 dozen.
Please, thanks.
As have pointed earlier that I believe that the base
of this method is long run winning betor simply
HG..............BASE BET;3 columns should alternate
at the start before start playing.
--Always follow last 2 columns with corresponding colors,ex;
--columns 1-2 + black......3 bets
--columns 1-3 + red.........3 bets
--columns 2-3-without a color.....2 bets....ex;
4
17
32.....trigger for playing next bet on columns 2-3.....1 unit each/unit 5 chips/
16.....trigger for playing next bet on columns 1-2 + black...1 unit each
24.....trigger for playing next bet on columns 1-3 + red......1 unit each
This is a base bet......When you lose 1 unit.....rise next bet for 1 chip on all bets.
When you lose 3 units...rise your next bet for 3 chips.
When you win 2 units..reduce your next bet for 2 chips.
--Actually it's a flat bet in units,but it only requres balanced chip progression.
--Whenever you win in balanced chip mode,put that win aside and forget about it,
as these chip winning will be your win at the end of night session play.
---There are some more tweaks to this bet,of which will talk about after some
of you guys test this on the longer basis....say several full sessions of about 450 spins.
I did personally tested it,am playing it presently,but would like you to do so,as thatway
we can continue discussing this matter further.
Just to remind you this is one of the most leveled bets I found in roulette combos.
...................................................Cheers Iboba 8) 8)
As have pointed earlier that I believe that the base
of this method is long run winning betor simply
HG.......>>>
I have 2 questions.
1. You do realize that Holy Grail doesn't mean the last untested system you came up with. Which brings us question 2.
2. If you test this Grail of yours, the results might astound you. My suggestion for a good test is to take your life savings to the casino and play it.
Thanks for sharing your method.
My dear Spike,
I'm taking it with me every night and having
great results.
Secondly,it isn't untested thing as you have stated....I only
pointed out to the guys to test it,before we continue further
discussion about this.As also pointed out it's only a base bet
that could be further improved in more stable bet,but just wish to see
other people opinions on this......Did you ever contribute in anything
positively????Do not think so.....try here you might feel better....Iboba 8) 8)
..>>Did you ever contribute in anything
positively????Do not think so.....>>
How was my post negative? I was just telling the truth.
..... if i´am not mistaken the system you are talking about was mentioned here before. Maybe not totaly the way you do it but certianly with the columns plus their colours as some have more red or black then others.
But intresting to see........ by the way in this case an progression would be 1-1,3-3, 9-9, 27-27 etc.......??
Carlitos 8)
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2009, 01:19:32 AM
..>>Did you ever contribute in anything
positively????Do not think so.....>>
How was my post negative? I was just telling the truth.
You dear Spike have not idea what am I talking about here.
But as there is more to come about this method maybe you grasp
some of it....but again maybe you will not.
-Carlitos,
Didn't you read my post cpmpletely????
---First this is only introduction to the real bet,and you didn't see
nothing alike as yet.
---Progression???1-1.3-3-9-9,27-27,???????
---Read my post again,it's all said there.
..........................................................Iboba 8) 8)
ohh, we're looking forward to the sequel :D
Quote from: iboba on September 24, 2009, 07:01:22 AM
You dear Spike have not idea what am I talking about here.
But as there is more to come about this method maybe you grasp
some of it....but again maybe you will not.
-Carlitos,
Didn't you read my post completely????
---First this is only introduction to the real bet,and you didn't see
nothing alike as yet.
---Progression???1-1.3-3-9-9,27-27,???????
---Read my post again,it's all said there.
..........................................................Iboba 8) 8)
Hello @iboba. Hello forumers
I have read your "way",or your "strategy"... and well.
If you back 1&2 and black, the 8 reds of the 3th column will kill you if playing in a "on prison" rule table.
If you back 1&2 and RED, only 4 blacks will wipe you 3 units, instead of 8 reds...
At last the maths are slight different... always against us...
Your third column cost you -28 units if backing 1&2 and black, while backing 1&2 and RED it will cost you only -20 (I'm talking about utility).
Of course backing 1&2 and black will provide you a "utility of +28 (in the 1&2 columns), instead of the +20 (in the 1&2 columns) provided by 1&2+RED.
Zero do the rest.
At the end, if you aren't playing in a table with "in prison" rule, the results are the same, but if you do, then is much more better 1&3 AND RED.
All the best.
Betatester,
---Both these methods where long tested
and the suggested showed much better results.
--It must be played on the 50% return when the zero hit.
--It should be play on the same table in continuation.
There are many other things concerning this BASE BET
that I will be explaining throughout /also how to avoid this lose
of 3 units happenings/but as have said earlier,no jump explanation.
Lose of 28 units...20 units??????Dont quite grasp your thoughts.
It seems you have miss something.................Iboba 8) 8)
Here we go bit further in explaining this bet,
as can see from your so far posted remarks
that you are not so familiar with columns behaviours
on the long basis.
Therefore a few questions;
--What is the longest you have seen 2 columns in pair
to alternate ??????
--When this happens you always on the winning side.
And this thing happens regulary in streaks,much
more then in chopy ways.
Maybe you should guys first check up above before we
continue further explanation of this bet,as it would be pointless
doing that before you are assured of that fact
When we clear up this matter we shall then move to the next part of the
bet/as most of you assumed this is IT/as this is really only begining
of the main bet....as you will further see....but pl. be patient.....and first
absorb the first part of the basic bet............Cheers Iboba 8) 8)
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2009, 01:19:32 AM
..>>Did you ever contribute in anything
positively????Do not think so.....>>
How was my post negative? I was just telling the truth.
Hey Spike, instead of being a loud mouthed know it all, if you think that his system won't test well, why don't you test it and post the results then everyone can make up their own mind.
Pretty much every post you make on here is some variation of "your idea is stupid...." no matter what the topic is. Your bullshit is getting really old.
Quote from: Carlitos on September 24, 2009, 01:32:53 AM
..... if I´am not mistaken the system you are talking about was mentioned here before. Maybe not totaly the way you do it but certianly with the columns plus their colours as some have more red or black then others.
But intresting to see........ by the way in this case an progression would be 1-1,3-3, 9-9, 27-27 etc.......??
Carlitos 8)
I thought the best way to use color and columns was to bet the color that is not the dominant color in the 2 columns as s hedge?
Quote from: curious on September 25, 2009, 12:02:12 PM
I thought the best way to use color and columns was to bet the color that is not the dominant color in the 2 columns as s hedge?
Curious,
There are many possibilities for betting 2 columns together,
while any of 2 are alternating,but as far as may long tests
and real play shows the best and safest way is as mentioned
in my previous posts.
--
THE QUESTION;how to avoid lose of 3 units,but instead only losing 1 unit?????--
It goes like as follows;--While betting columns 1-2+black....stay on these columns and black while blacks are
streaking in these 2 columns......when red spins in these 2 columns.....next bet
same columns with red....and if red spins again......stop betting until it jumps to
column 3......expecting streaks of red/possible in column 3/
--Same procedure with columns 1-3 + red......reversed.
--This is a tweak I have maded to this bet,and so far it works successfully.
--The logic behind above move is self explanatory,so I will not go to further
explanation.
--Suggest you guys try this bet personaly,and then you might experience
what am I talking about here.
--And Spike,test this before you open your loudy mouth.....but think
this will be to much for your appetite.
Cheers........and good luck with this...actually you will not need any luck
betting on this...........it wins constantly........................Iboba 8) 8)
PS..
Almost forgot to mention......the REASON why this method wins on the
long run.Cause I haven't seen such leveled bet in roulette game as yet...
Meaning that your winnings will be mostly from these chips I have mentioned
at the start of this thread.
Do you play this on an American wheel? Somewhere on this forum there is a thread about a possible flaw in the layout of the wheel. Certain numbers in the second and third column seem to cluster, so it seems to make sense to use columns such as you do.
Quote from: John1234 on September 27, 2009, 01:43:04 AM
Do you play this on an American wheel? Somewhere on this forum there is a thread about a possible flaw in the layout of the wheel. Certain numbers in the second and third column seem to cluster, so it seems to make sense to use columns such as you do.
Last night playing this method,columns 2-3 have
spun 26 times in the row,among others strikes of
columns 1-2 and 1-3 throughout the night.
It's not sense my friend....
IT'S A FACTthat column in pairs are clustering.
Check it up with some past results then you shall see
what am I talking about.I play it on europian wheel,
and never tested or check up it on American wheel.
This method is mostly for full time players,betting each day
on the same wheel,and as have stated earlier it is a
long run winner,as there is logical REASON why it wins.........................................Cheers............Iboba 8) 8)
Hello. Thanks for your method, Iboba.
But I am having some difficulties for understand it...
Can you show us the way you bet with these real online spins (including your last tweaks)?
Thank you
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36
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iboba,
Thanks for posting your system. There are a couple of points in the system rules that I'm not clear about:
Quote4
17
32.....trigger for playing next bet on columns 2-3.....1 unit each/unit 5 chips/
16.....trigger for playing next bet on columns 1-2 + black...1 unit each
24.....trigger for playing next bet on columns 1-3 + red......1 unit each
This is a base bet......When you lose 1 unit.....rise next bet for 1 chip on all bets.
When you lose 3 units...rise your next bet for 3 chips.
When you win 2 units..reduce your next bet for 2 chips.
Firstly, you say bet next on columns 2-3, but column 3 hasn't hit.... I assume this is a typo? unless I've misunderstood something - you're betting on the last two columns which have hit, correct?
It isn't very clear how you vary your stakes, it sounds like a progression, and yet you say it's flat betting. For example,
when you lose 3 units...rise your next bet for 3 chips does this mean that you increase the stake on each location by 3 chips on each? (so your increase is 9 units) I don't think it does but I don't know what you mean...
I think an example might help.
12---c3
8----c2 next bet 1u on each of c2 & c3
15---c3 win. repeat previous bet
13---c1 loss. next bet is on c1 & c3 & red - but should this be 6 units?
2
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10
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24
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33
Please could you continue this example filling in the correct bets and stakes?
Thanks. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Tangram on September 27, 2009, 06:34:31 AM
iboba,
Thanks for posting your system. There are a couple of points in the system rules that I'm not clear about:
Firstly, you say bet next on columns 2-3, but column 3 hasn't hit.... I assume this is a typo? unless I've misunderstood something - you're betting on the last two columns which have hit, correct?
It isn't very clear how you vary your stakes, it sounds like a progression, and yet you say it's flat betting. For example, when you lose 3 units...rise your next bet for 3 chips does this mean that you increase the stake on each location by 3 chips on each? (so your increase is 9 units) I don't think it does but I don't know what you mean...
I think an example might help.
12---c3
8----c2 next bet 1u on each of c2 & c3
15---c3 win. repeat previous bet........................................................W 1 UNIT W 1 CHIP
13---c1 loss. next bet is on c1 & c3 & red - but should this be 6 units? ....L 2 UNITS L 2 CHIPS..next bet
2...................1 un.col.1--1un.col 3 + 1 un.red + 2 chips on each bet L 3 UN. L 6 CHIPS..next bet
35..................1 un.col 1--1-un col 2 + 1 un. black + 3 chips on each bet W 2 UN. W 6 CH.....next bet ..un.same-ch.2x3
1....................Egal......and so on....think it's enough to grasp this.
9
14
10
6
24
6
33
4
12
20
32
23
11
33
Please could you continue this example filling in the correct bets and stakes?
Thanks. :thumbsup:
Tangram,
--Thanks for correcting,it should be 33,typo error
--when lose rise as many as you lost on all next events...
BUT IN CHIPS--base bet is in units 1 unit= 5 CHIPS
--therefore in starting bet units,allways flat bet,but rising and reducing in chips.
Glad that you spotted an error,but sad that others didn't.
...................................Cheers Iboba 8) 8)
Quote from: iboba on September 24, 2009, 12:26:43 AM
As have pointed earlier that I believe that the base
of this method is long run winning betor simply
HG..............BASE BET;3 columns should alternate
at the start before start playing.
--Always follow last 2 columns with corresponding colors,ex;
--columns 1-2 + black......3 bets
--columns 1-3 + red.........3 bets
--columns 2-3-without a color.....2 bets....ex;
4
17
33.....trigger for playing next bet on columns 2-3.....1 unit each/unit 5 chips/
16.....trigger for playing next bet on columns 1-3 + red...1 unit each
22.....trigger for playing next bet on columns 1-2 + black......1 unit each
This is a base bet......When you lose 1 unit.....rise next bet for 1 chip on all bets.
When you lose 3 units...rise your next bet for 3 chips.
When you win 2 units..reduce your next bet for 2 chips.
--Actually it's a flat bet in units,but it only requres balanced chip progression.
--Whenever you win in balanced chip mode,put that win aside and forget about it,
as these chip winning will be your win at the end of night session play.
---There are some more tweaks to this bet,of which will talk about after some
of you guys test this on the longer basis....say several full sessions of about 450 spins.
I did personally tested it,am playing it presently,but would like you to do so,as thatway
we can continue discussing this matter further.
Just to remind you this is one of the most leveled bets I found in roulette combos.
...................................................Cheers Iboba 8) 8)
CORRECTION
My question would be if you lose 3 chip and your adding 3 more and lose then what 2nd question if the colums reapeat do you bet the last color plus the 2 colums that go with it why im asking beacause this progression lost in only a 100 spin test .
You always play last 2 columns with corresponding colors,
not vice-versa.You shouldn't get discouraged with bad first 100
spins......as have stated this method is for full time players
on the long run,on the same wheel,,,and to be tested with several
past sessions.Try that and let us know........Iboba 8) 8)