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Title: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: warman on October 14, 2009, 09:06:58 PM
 Here is some proof that people all over the world agree that I have something that is real enjoy the read.This will put the stops on those that say I have nothing. So enjoy my friends.

To all here if you don't understand something please ask and I will go over it with you .All here should know that my system is in the test area so check it out there.

Here is a post that was made by someone

The picture represents the hole where all the old and tired roulette methods and systems have to go. I can tell everyone on this forum that James's discovery will change the way everybody (well, almost everybody) thinks towards games of chance. It is the future, it is called HIDDEN MATH. It will save countless poor souls from searching the internet and only finding prehistoric betting methods that the authors even admit don't work in the long run, how can these guys sleep at night knowing that people are losing money they can probably ill afford to lose by following something that the author himself knows can never hold up. Yet they try to discredit everyone else out of false pride for their own work. Some people have been digging themselves in a hole for years and are pushing others in as well, it is about time the real thinkers of the 21st century are allowed to show what they have rather than listening to the know-all teachers who dress up everything that was never any good and never will be any good.


Here is another post that someone made

Hidden Math is what the name describes, it throws away all the misconceptions and old ideas that we have spent years looking at. Previous spins are completely irrelevant and should not be even considered. Progressions are a slippery slope down the "devil's staircase". You have to think in terms of the session as a whole. James was right when he said this leads to a few higher dimensions and he is playing on a completely different level to anything that has been mentioned not only here but in any books, and that includes authors who I would consider very knowledgeable on the subject of gambling. It is better than card counting, better than V.B. and I think many would even swap their roulette computers for it. What I am saying is that it is both original and unique. James must take a lot of satisfaction from what he has achieved here. I don't say any of this lightly and it has inspired my thinking and creativity towards roulette again that was sadly missing for a little while.

Another post someone made about me
 Hello James, thank you. I thought that I sometimes looked out of the box. It looks like you have circumnavigated it. It opens up a whole new train of thought. If I am been honest with you, I would have never arrived at any of it. Maybe 1 step at most. You will never hear me mention Hamburg again, lol. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. All I can say to anybody else is to listen carefully and let it sink in without pre-judging anything. I am more stubborn than most but have to admit defeat when the truth is staring me in the face.
It is CHECKMATE indeed for hamburg, progressions and systems based on previous spins when compared with HIDDEN MATH. It's just a shame it was so well hidden, maybe I should have went to school more, lol. No, can't take anything away from you James. You are a proper gent and a good friend.
@Snowman, this is no joke. I will tell you how serious it is. I have had my computer hacked over the last few day's and I am not a happy chappie, it shows how desperate some people are to find out what people are saying to each other, it's a good job I don't keep any information on my laptop for any longer than 24 hours, this is basically the only site I come to, (there's a joke in there somewhere ) Anyway like I said HIDDEN MATH is no joke and it will be talked about for years to come as the gaming discovery of the early 21st century

winwithmath

James Albert Wendel
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: gizmotron on October 15, 2009, 03:14:39 AM
James, please accept my apologies. You were right all along.
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 15, 2009, 08:29:10 PM
Thank you sir,
                  I am looking forward to chat with you.
HS
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 17, 2009, 09:58:53 AM
Hi James,
I read most of your posts here and at GG.
I am changing the tracking style as LWs instead of -1,0,+1 etc.
Just see here:

R
B   L
B   W
B   W
R   L      +1
B   L
B   W     +2
B   W
R   L       +3
R   W
etc.

I agree with you. Random event swings back and forth a lot.
Thanks
HS
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 17, 2009, 12:23:46 PM
Hi James,
              You wont like the extended testing. But to show the forum, about "back and forth" swings, I am posting this.
I believe your system is the Holy Grail,  what every one is searching for. :yahoo: :good:
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 17, 2009, 05:01:15 PM
Here is another test. It took long time to come back to +4. I am really enjoying the swings.  :dance1: :dance1:
Thanks James.
Still waiting to chat with u 
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 17, 2009, 06:16:21 PM
Nice chatting with u James. Here is another quick one.
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 17, 2009, 08:48:06 PM
Has there been any good explanation of this for us so called slow learners or are we still talking airey fairey stuff
Title: Hello!
Post by: JavierTT on October 17, 2009, 08:54:09 PM
I see we are connected now. Can we talk in Chat? Ill be there.

Greetings.

Javier
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: JavierTT on October 17, 2009, 09:08:47 PM
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 17, 2009, 09:18:48 PM
I will try to explain it in simple terms natural:

1. What he says is "change" is the only thing happens in random events.
2. Random events swings back and forth
3. To capture those events we employ a simple flat betting system.
4. We stop at +4 on a win or else the back and forth motion will drag you down.
5. On a losing secession we stop at -8 or -4/-6 if you want.

OK now the system:
We can play any EC. Here I am explaining R/B:

Every spin we track for L/W. For betting we look back 2rd spin and decide.
If win or lose we skip 1 spin and look back 2rd spin and decide.

Now the example:

R
B   L
B   W
B   W----------> Here I am looking back 3 spins there is L so I am betting on R (B will lose)
R   L      +1
B   L-------------> skip and look back 3 spins there is W so expect B to win
B   W     +2
B   W---------------> skip and look back 3 spins there is L so I am expecting B to lose and Red wins
R   L       +3
R   W
etc.

If 0 comes just ignore dont write in the tracking. At the time of betting if 0 comes, just it is a loss. No L is entered in tracking.

I hope this helps. If you have any question shoot at me.
 
 
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 17, 2009, 10:56:46 PM
Hide can you work this example out for me we betting odds and evens in this case with thanks

29
8
26
10
34
1
24
2
23
7
1
27
19
31
5
18
7
35
32
10
31
20
17
21
15
15
33
22
17
28
3
18
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: sniper on October 17, 2009, 11:17:37 PM
Hello Natural9,
                    
29  O
8    E  -1
26  E   0
10  E    +1     -1
34  E    +2
1   O    +1      +1
24  E    0
2   E    +1       +1
23  O   0
7   O   +1       +1
1   O   +2
27  O   +3       -1
19  O   +4
31  O   +5        -1
5   O   +6
18  E   +5        +1
7   O   +4
35  O  +5         +1
32  E   +4        
10  E   +5         +1
31  O  +4
20  E  +3          -1
17  O  +2
21  O  +3        +1
15  O  +4
15  O  +5         -1
33  O  +6
22  E  +5         +1
17  O  +4
28  E   +3        -1
3   O   +2
18  E  +1         -1

Col 3 is for tracking and col 4 actual betting.
We end up +1, highest was +3. We would have stopped if we hit target +4.
Tracking used Follow The Last (FTL)

Regards

sniper
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 17, 2009, 11:29:14 PM
Let me try: ;)

29       O
8         L
26       W
10       W---------> Bet L
34       W                -1
1         L   ---------> No bet and look back 2 spins ie 10 which has  W so play Odd
24       L                  -2 (we lose)
2         W-----------> No bet and look back 2 spins ie 1 which has L so play for odd
23       L------------->-1 (we won)
7         w------------> No bet and look back 2 spins ie 2 which has W so we play for odd
1         w------------> 0 (Won)
27        w
19        w----------> +1
31        w
5          w---------->+2
18         L
7           L---------->1 (Lose)
35         W
32         L-----------> +2 (Win)
10         W
31         L-----------> +1 (Lose)
20         L
17         L-----------> 0
21         W
15         L----------->+1
15         w
33         w----------->+2
22         L
17         L------------>+1
28         W
3           L------------>+2
18          W


I think the sequence ends here. Anyway the concept is made clear here.
I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 17, 2009, 11:29:44 PM
Hello Natural9,
                    
29  O
8    E  -1
26  E   0
10  E    +1     -1
34  E    +2
1   O    +1      +1
24  E    0
2   E    +1       +1
23  O   0
7   O   +1       +1
1   O   +2
27  O   +3       -1
19  O   +4
31  O   +5        -1
5   O   +6
18  E   +5        +1
7   O   +4
35  O  +5         +1
32  E   +4        
10  E   +5         +1
31  O  +4
20  E  +3          -1
17  O  +2
21  O  +3        +1
15  O  +4
15  O  +5         -1
33  O  +6
22  E  +5         +1
17  O  +4
28  E   +3        -1
3   O   +2
18  E  +1         -1

Col 3 is for tracking and col 4 actual betting.
We end up +1, highest was +3. We would have stopped if we hit target +4.
Tracking used Follow The Last (FTL)

Regards

sniper

Ok thanks Sniper

How does it perform long term

MM is to leave table once 4 units up so this cant be played continuously

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 17, 2009, 11:31:58 PM
Let me try: ;)

29       O
8         L
26       W
10       W---------> Bet L
34       W                -1
1         L   ---------> No bet and look back 2 spins ie 10 which has  W so play Odd
24       L                  -2 (we lose)
2         W-----------> No bet and look back 2 spins ie 1 which has L so play for odd
23       L------------->-1 (we won)
7         w------------> No bet and look back 2 spins ie 2 which has W so we play for odd
1         w------------> 0 (Won)
27        w
19        w----------> +1
31        w
5          w---------->+2
18         L
7           L---------->1 (Lose)
35         W
32         L-----------> +2 (Win)
10         W
31         L-----------> +1 (Lose)
20         L
17         L-----------> 0
21         W
15         L----------->+1
15         w
33         w----------->+2
22         L
17         L------------>+1
28         W
3           L------------>+2
18          W


I think the sequence ends here. Anyway the concept is made clear here.
I hope this helps.

Thanks Hide least got some examples to work from now

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 17, 2009, 11:34:36 PM
How come Sniper is in Negative :punish:
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 17, 2009, 11:39:22 PM
How come Sniper is in Negative :punish:
he ended up plus 1

Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 17, 2009, 11:47:45 PM
Let the Master to come and punish the correct person (me/Sniper) ::)

U dont need paper and pencil.  Just look at the past 2nd spin and decide whether it is L/W. That is the bet for next spin. In fact u dont need a brain. F*** the casino. They designed a system to take money from any body, who has brain or no brain. This system is doing exactly the same. FK the casino.

Sometime back randomness was a monster to me. Now she is my child. Just swinging in my lap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)  :give_heart:Back and Forth all the time. I love her  :-*and I love my Master James Albert Wendel  all the time :give_rose:.

Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 12:25:13 AM
Let the Master to come and punish the correct person (me/Sniper) ::)

U dont need paper and pencil.  Just look at the past 2nd spin and decide whether it is L/W. That is the bet for next spin. In fact u dont need a brain. F*** the casino. They designed a system to take money from any body, who has brain or no brain. This system is doing exactly the same. FK the casino.

Sometime back randomness was a monster to me. Now she is my child. Just swinging in my lap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)  :give_heart:Back and Forth all the time. I love her  :-*and I love my Master James Albert Wendel  all the time :give_rose:.


How has it been performing
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 12:51:55 AM
It looks like to me it wil llose to long  strings of streaks
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 18, 2009, 12:58:33 AM
Killing somebody and swinging on somebody else!
She is mine. All the time all along.
 She can swing any way she wants, as a dad, I am there to hold her.
I know her
she knows me
and she
knows my master JAW
James Albert Wendel.
Win win win.




Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 18, 2009, 01:09:11 AM
Quote
It looks like to me it wil llose to long  strings of streaks

This is where we win sir!

If u cant understand the swing -------------------> go over again, randomness is a little girl, just harness her and make her as your own child.

She will be there with u all the time all along!
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: sniper on October 18, 2009, 04:44:12 AM
Hello Natural9,hideseek,

I follow exactly what was taught by the master in the good old days.We tested 3000 shoes and came out positive. Natural9, the target is 4 units as suggested by James.We are suppose to stop when we hit our target or stop loss of -8 units.If we wish to continue, we have to move to another table and start new.The master also mentioned other dimension of play to be played together to achieve more win.It was posted for a long period of time on other forum as well.

Regards

sniper
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Twocando on October 18, 2009, 05:07:48 AM
 :sarcastic:

Hideseek and natural9 you both got it wrong - check the LW and +-

Hideseek the last ones 15 was a win and 28 Lost - 18 also Lost. end with 0 .

Natural9 the +1 and -1 are wrong.

The method works its just your records of the play that is wrong.
 IF you explain what is going to change and what is used for reference to change or repeat. - The last number the rest guys and girls here will follow the method quicker.

The number that was not played on, is used to the prior prior of this number and the win or lose of that number, to its prior, if you were to follow it to repeat. With this you decide if the last not played numbers is going to change or not.

Thanks
TCD
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 06:39:39 AM
:sarcastic:

Hideseek and natural9 you both got it wrong - check the LW and +-

Hideseek the last ones 15 was a win and 28 Lost - 18 also Lost. end with 0 .

Natural9 the +1 and -1 are wrong.

The method works its just your records of the play that is wrong.
 IF you explain what is going to change and what is used for reference to change or repeat. - The last number the rest guys and girls here will follow the method quicker.

The number that was not played on, is used to the prior prior of this number and the win or lose of that number, to its prior, if you were to follow it to repeat. With this you decide if the last not played numbers is going to change or not.

Thanks
TCD

TCD you have lost me now
snipers and hideseek arent right then show us an example please with how and why the bet

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: sniper on October 18, 2009, 07:09:24 AM
Hello Tangram,

Sorry about the detail, it will take a long time to dig out the data and go over again manually.I believe there were many other guys following the system at that stage, hope someone can provide you with more details.

Regards

sniper
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Twocando on October 18, 2009, 08:15:21 AM
Let me try: ;)

29       O
8         L
26       W
10       W---------> Bet L
34       W                -1
1         L   ---------> No bet and look back 2 spins ie 10 which has  W so play Odd
24       L                  -2 (we lose)
2         W-----------> No bet and look back 2 spins ie 1 which has L so play for odd
23       L------------->-1 (we won)
7         w------------> No bet and look back 2 spins ie 2 which has W so we play for odd
1         w------------> 0 (Won)
27        w
19        w----------> +1
31        w
5          w---------->+2
18         L
7           L---------->1 (Lose)
35         W
32         L-----------> +2 (Win)
10         W
31         L-----------> +1 (Lose)
20         L
17         L-----------> 0
21         W
15         L----------->+1    WHY THE L --- 21 TO 15 ODD ITS A WIN ( lost cause 21 to change 20 was a L)
15         w
33         w----------->+2       0
22         L
17         L------------>+1      -1
28         W
3           L------------>+2       0
18          W                         WHY THE W --- 3 TO 18 IS ODD / EVEN LOST


I think the sequence ends here. Anyway the concept is made clear here.
I hope this helps.

                   
29  O
8    E  -1
26  E   0
10  E    +1     -1
34  E    +2
1   O    +1      +1      must be -1 (0) 34 on 26 - 26 won so 34 to stay the same.
24  E    0
2   E    +1       +1      right  (1)  24 on 34 - 34 won so 24 will stay the same.
23  O   0
7   O   +1       +1      must be -1 (0)  23 on 24 - 24 lost so 23 will change Lost did not change
1   O   +2
27  O   +3       -1     right (-1)  1 on 23 - 23 lost so 1 to change. Lost 1 didn't change.
19  O   +4
31  O   +5        -1    must be +1 (0) 19 on 1 - 1 won so 19 will stay the same Won Did stay the same.
5   O   +6
18  E   +5        +1    must be -1 (-1) 5 on 19 - 19 won so 5 to stay the same- Lost didn't stay the same.
7   O   +4 
35  O  +5         +1   right ( 0 ) 7 on 5 - 5 won so 7 to stay the same, it did stay odd.
32  E   +4       
10  E   +5         +1   must be ( -1) 32 on 7  - 7 lost so 32 to change - it didn't lost
31  O  +4
20  E  +3          -1   must be +1 ( 0 ) 31 on 32 - 32 lost so change 31 - it changed won
17  O  +2
21  O  +3        +1    must be -1 ( -1 ) 17 on 31 - 31 lost so 17 to change. it didn't-  Lost
15  O  +4
15  O  +5         -1   must be -1 ( -2 )
33  O  +6
22  E  +5         +1     (-3)
17  O  +4
28  E   +3        -1    (-4)
3   O   +2
18  E  +1         -1    (-3)


Played on Even/Odd the last number to change to the trend of the prior prior if that were to be followed.

The odd / evens repeated to last 16 times and changed to last, 15 times.

TCD
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 09:20:53 AM
James can you do my example  above with the odds and evens and show why you do what you did

regards Rodney
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 09:27:09 AM
Jamres if you give us plenty of worked examples I am sure most of us ould understand from the worked examples better and also ask better questions on it

Thanks mate

Regards rodney
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 10:58:32 AM
James  give us lots of worked examples so we can  get the hang of it and do the example of mine earlier in this thread
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: elmo on October 18, 2009, 11:30:08 AM
Hello James and everyone  :)

 It is not difficult to understand but because it is NEW to most people, the brain likes to play tricks on you.
It is important that you take the time to really study it and experiment with it by yourself. There is no substitute for hard work and putting in the hours to see how this works. Like driving lessons, if you take one a fortnight then you will never get there. Concentration is a tool that you need to sharpen and the way to do it is through daily conditioning.
The rewards are there for anybody that wants them.

cheers James for continuing to share this and for your hard work.

elmo
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 11:43:27 AM
i can understand how hideseek and sniper are playing it they are playing it correctly i assume but i try their way on some earlier example and now seem to have the same results

Elmo they were correct in my example were they not if not show me how you play it

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: gizmotron on October 18, 2009, 11:50:11 AM
This is incredible. I once saw a method like this, how to place bets I mean. It was called Tagwar. I think they were playing it back in the 70's. I saw it before in that old movie "Bang the Drum Slowly."
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Nathan Detroit on October 18, 2009, 12:04:12 PM
Nothing new  about this overkill promoted system. I am playing this  for  a long time without all the ballet. and always come  out a winner---------MY WAY.

So what else is new ? Just  a lot of " gezeter geschrei ". People loooove to lap up things.  When I recommended a method  a while  back  I got flak  for  not coming right to the point . Here we  have  a poster who is  constantly saying I will post it at such and such time  and when the time comes  he  promises to post it within the  hour. The hour is loooooooooon gone. Anyone  disagreeing is considered unworthy by him.

Nathan Detroit

Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 18, 2009, 12:55:39 PM
Hi Lanky,
          
        
Quote
But why is it You say look back 2 spins when in actual fact Your looking back 3 spins from the last Known Result

There is probably a simple explanation for this but I can't see it as these Examples above were Played.
Unless Your Playing a Different way to Sniper.
But that still does not explain the (Look back 2 spins) when it is 3 spins back OFF the last know Result.

You are right I was looking back 3 spins.
Thanks for pointing out mate.
HS

@TCD

Quote
Hideseek and natural9 you both got it wrong - check the LW and +-

Hideseek the last ones 15 was a win and 28 Lost - 18 also Lost. end with 0 .

Thanks for pointing out the mistake mate.
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Nathan Detroit on October 18, 2009, 01:13:54 PM
I am entitled to post my take  on this board. You have insulted me and I shall complain to the  moderator  about your attack on me.

Wendell if I would   be  om the subject  in any negative way you would be ranting as  you are very well to be known for. One cannot lead any independent conversation with you.  You are getting right of the tangent if  any one  only slightly disagrees with you.


 I shall proclaim my holy grail on October 31st right here on  VLS and  the time is 00:01 October 31, 2009 for  all to know. Remember the October  31 st 00:01.

This  will put your system out of commission.

Nathan Detroit
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Nathan Detroit on October 18, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Roulette is  a losing  game just as all casino games are . No system exists to prove otherwise. I am playing casino games  for over 29 years and know  what I am talking about. With my SUPERB bet selection  backed by a strictly enforced MM system I am proud to say that I have suffered no damage by the casinos.

Beware of false prophets !!!

Just read between the lines  of those " winning promises'.

Nathan Detroit
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: bali96 on October 18, 2009, 03:22:37 PM
Hi Warman,

Please can you confirm. Are you betting every spin or is it every other spin as per hideseek's earlier examples?

Thanks
Bali
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: hideseek on October 18, 2009, 03:40:31 PM
@Bali
We have to play every other spin. Look back 2 spin and decide your next bet. Not 3 spin as shown in my example. Correct way of tracking is as done by Sniper.
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on October 18, 2009, 04:01:38 PM
Hi
Can someone who understands this ,explain to me how big runs of Reds or blacks(if we are playing the colours),DOES NOT kill this method of playing(as someone has already said).It seems like it does to me.
Thanks
The Spiders Kiss
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: MattyMattz on October 18, 2009, 04:25:23 PM
James,

there is no reason to talk down to Spider.  All he asked was how your "system" preforms when a streak occurs. 

Simmer down. 

Matt
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on October 18, 2009, 04:47:04 PM
Hey
You said you would answer questions and I gave you a question.
You know what I wont post anymore in here....you need to take a chill pill...what you have here is not the holy grail...
TSK
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 05:09:42 PM
Earlier I mention this would bew susceptible to streaks but i guess i was being a dumbass


James what you do in this scenario



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Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: MattyMattz on October 18, 2009, 06:12:21 PM
Thank you Lanky - totally agree.  Spider was not being a smart ass (or a snart as).  Basic question if you ask me.

Matt

Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 06:41:08 PM
sheesh here we go again
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: gizmotron on October 18, 2009, 07:05:48 PM
I never say that I'm sorry Spider is an ass we all know it here.   I'm  no spike that will kiss ass

winwithmath
James Albert Wendel

I've got news for you James. I'm not Spike. I doubt that Spike will ever apologize to you. He didn't kiss your butt anywhere did he? My apologizing to you was as much the truth as I have been able to gather from your future math concepts and your explanations of your betting systems. BTW, you think that there are more chops than streaks and that skipping a bet or two and betting on OLD or FLD is a winning system. It's mechanical and will always follow the long term laws of probability. It will not beat the math as you suggest. You just have a very strong belief that you have not fully researched yet. You will learn that it will correct itself and break down your bankroll eventually. The problem is that you have not researched it enough. Try doing that while you are in the penalty box, please.
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Natural9 on October 18, 2009, 07:12:52 PM
I've got news for you James. I'm not Spike. I doubt that Spike will ever apologize to you. He didn't kiss your butt anywhere did he? My apologizing to you was as much the truth as I have been able to gather from your future math concepts and your explanations of your betting systems. BTW, you think that there are more chops than streaks and that skipping a bet or two and betting on OLD or FLD is a winning system. It's mechanical and will always follow the long term laws of probability. It will not beat the math as you suggest. You just have a very strong belief that you have not fully researched yet. You will learn that it will correct itself and break down your bankroll eventually. The problem is that you have not researched it enough. Try doing that while you are in the penalty box, please.
Isnt that the idea of the forum  if someone claims something work it not for us to believe but do as much testing and research as possible on it and leave personalities aside

What ever you think of the person and if you say nothing works mathematically why are you here we all looking and show us results of failure not say something doesnt work because you say it does

Lots say you cant beat this game ask Lanky how he wins  i seen him but some will say playing his way cant overcome house edge as well but hey he been doing it for years and he has his shirt still to prove my point >:D
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: gizmotron on October 20, 2009, 02:38:08 AM
N9, I had a good answer but I forgot what it was. I think it had something to do with having the guts to look at the results and not to take it personally. James has never been able to take constructive criticism or evidence that his opinion was in error. But that is a known thing here. I just wanted to point out why it fails. People really want to discuss this. Only it has always been hijacked by it's own creator whenever that happens. While James is resting this one out we could compare notes without his interruptions. It's a great opportunity.
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Nathan Detroit on October 20, 2009, 06:51:47 AM
A devilish proclamation  :diablo:

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Title: Re: Please enjoy this read winwithmarh
Post by: Twocando on October 20, 2009, 08:05:47 AM
James

Yes I do have a lot to learn. But I can tell you this. There is no magic to your " Holy Grail"

Let me prove it.

You hop and skip between the numbers. Not playing every number.
Claiming that every thing must go back to what it was. back and forth.
Need to stop on -8 or +4 or were one like to stop.
Must look at what was before you start to play.
Look at the dimensions and see if they are changing.

Now my friend- let make it simple. What is the dimensions, Black/Red and Odd/ Even and High/LOW and mine the Left and right of the wheel. Plus any other 18 numbers against the other 18 numbers.

To write R for repeat of what the last is to the one before that and C for change you will see that it reads quicker. See the attached file. Spins from live table, To wait for 3 repeats on a " dimension" play that this will change.
So 3 R's RRR play that its going to change the last. 3 C's CCC play that is going to repeat the last.

On the file you will see that it happens that all of the groups change. Where all of them are the same  R is when it repeat a number or a number in that group. It will never go to C's on all of the groups it can only repeat. Cause to change from 10 - Black Even Low and Right it must be Red Odd High Left. That number is not on the Left side.

To stop at -8 or +4  Is the same like playing with 8 units/chips on any EC's Play 4 at a time if you win you'v got 4 prof / up stop play later or on another table. Lost 4 try again and stop if lose. that will be -8.
Will not lose more than 7 out of 10 times.

If you play the EC's that its going to change or repeat make a group of the EC'c Black Low and Even. Win 2 out of these 3 you 1 unit up.

Numbers can only change 3 EC's at ones. and there are only 4 and 5 numbers to this change to each number. If you like  play that the full dimension to the last is going to change. Black - Even - High for number 9 is the numbers 20.22.24.26.28 and they are on the same side of the wheel. next to 9?

If you write the numbers down like on the file you will see that there is more changes then repeats to the total of the groups.  Random cause that this happens - not staying on one group and even if it stays the rest changes.

I don't trust your system - it's not what you think it is. Well sorry you told us that you have 20 other methods better than this one. Which one is the Holy Grail then. 

TCD