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Advantage Play (roulette wheel physics) => Roulette Physics => Topic started by: Lexxter on October 30, 2009, 04:55:52 PM

Title: Blind Dealer Signature vs Real one
Post by: Lexxter on October 30, 2009, 04:55:52 PM
Hi all of you esteemed players !

I have some questions about Dealer signature.

I' ve read about the real ones - when you follow the release number and the final number, calculate etc etc. But this cannot be done on a live online casino.

So here one is forced to follow somehow a 'blind DS' , observing last number vs actual spun number, noticing if they are in the same sector or somehow same pocket distance away (in average) etc. I admit it's not so 'realistic' and good, but this is as much as we have online, where NMB is may times called before the spin starts (or you cannot see the release number or area).

So my questions (only for live online wheels) : is there of any value following dealers sessions and trying to establish some past patterns that can work also on their actual session that you want to play with them ? To be more clear, if I follow 10 sessions with a deler (Joe) and see some patterns, next time when Joe is spinning and I'm online, do I have more chances that he is repeating, somehow, some of those patterns ?

Or should I concentrate only on his actual session and try to spot the actual patterns (even if they are Blind DS) ? Is there any connection between his actual session patterns and past ones ? Or none whatsoever, because conditions might be different ?

Kelly, Marven, Victor (and other experienced players)  - what do you think ?

Thank you very much,

Lexx

Title: Re: Blind Dealer Signature vs Real one
Post by: VLSroulette on October 30, 2009, 05:08:47 PM
Hello dear Lexxter.

My experience with dealer signature systems has been very limited, mostly dealing with the "sectorization" phenomenon, also some "ball movement" tracking (Kimo Li Style) rather than actual dealer signature.

As for prospect live online casinos, please check celticcasino .com, our friend Bruce adviced to look after ball scatter there.

And dublinbet .com family of casinos, they do allow betting after ball release.

Hope other more-experienced posters do help by providing insight on the real one.

Regards.

Victor
Title: Re: Blind Dealer Signature vs Real one
Post by: elmo on October 30, 2009, 05:56:58 PM
from all the live online casinos that I have experienced, Betfred give you the most time after the spin. It is also on a wheel where you do not get much ball scatter. The stakes are also pretty low. (10p on a number, minimum bet = £1)
So plenty of scope for having a go with little damage.
Title: Re: Blind Dealer Signature vs Real one
Post by: pins on October 30, 2009, 10:10:54 PM
you could follow the numbers spun. if the dealer spins a five and the next number is 16.  the next time the dealer spins a five you back the 16. and the numbers a long side.
Title: Re: Blind Dealer Signature vs Real one
Post by: Lexxter on November 01, 2009, 07:37:10 PM
Thank you all.

But I wanted to find out anything else. I mean, the worthiness of following dealers online.
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My questions (only for live online wheels) : is there of any value following dealers sessions and trying to establish some past patterns that can work also on their actual session that you want to play with them ? To be more clear, if I follow 10 sessions with a deler (Joe) and see some patterns, next time when Joe is spinning and I'm online, do I have more chances that he is repeating, somehow, some of those patterns ?

Or should I concentrate only on his actual session and try to spot the actual patterns (even if they are Blind DS) ? Is there any connection between his actual session patterns and past ones ? Or none whatsoever, because conditions might be different ?

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This is what I am interested in.

Kelly, if you follow this, could you please tell your opinion ? Thank you.
Lexxter
Title: Re: Blind Dealer Signature vs Real one
Post by: hoper35 on November 01, 2009, 07:47:42 PM
Not sure that would help much unless you're also sure that the same table is being used.


Ron.
Title: Re: Blind Dealer Signature vs Real one
Post by: Zindrod on March 14, 2011, 09:50:50 AM
Blind DS does not work.