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Title: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: Wally Gator on November 22, 2009, 10:36:50 PM
I have not posted in quite some time.  Many different reasons.  But, I've found success at Baccarat using the combination of 2 very simple strategies.  Below I've listed the results of the last 100 shoes I've played and wanted to share the strategy initially with someone who can test it on alot of shoes.  I've always been of the belief that all strategies will eventually fail, but the one controlling factor we have over the casino (something Lanky told me a long time ago) is that we can walk away.   These are real shoes I played in a real casino, no Internet.

** These are the raw scores as I played all the way to the end of each shoe.  There was no stop/loss. (see further down for a recap of playing only till a win of 10 units.)**

high      
1204.6

Wins: 95

Losses: 5

Win %: 95.0%

Hi Drw Dw
362.7      
      
total shoes played   
100.0   
      
Average per shoe   
Net   12.0   

*** Below are the stats using the same shoes but playing until a +10, then changing to a 1 unit flat bet.  If wins continue I take it to another +5, so the win would be +9, +14, +19, +24, +29 ***  I didn't play them this way, but think it's alot less riskier.

high      
876.2

Wins: 97

Losses: 3

Win %: 97.0%

Hi Drw Dw
13.3      
      
total shoes played   
100.0   
      
Average per shoe   
Net   8.8
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: John1234 on November 23, 2009, 12:00:24 AM
Hi, thanks for posting.. I have a lot of shoes/results that I can look over for you. I am going to have about a week off for Thanksgiving so I will have a lot of time on my hands to do some testing. I am also working on another method that has shown some promising results and maybe your method could help to improve my method.
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: Phishalot on November 23, 2009, 09:24:38 AM
Glad to see your post.

Those #'s look good. Only 5 losing shoes.

I have lots of live shoes, a full drawer full. If you want me to run your method on them.

Glad to see you
Phishalot
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: dannyjames1979 on November 23, 2009, 04:58:45 PM
Hey,
hows the testing going on? be interesting to se if the 95% win rate can continue on test of loads of shoes.
Danny
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: Wally Gator on November 23, 2009, 07:07:42 PM
Thanks for all of your interest.  I'm going to attach a spreadsheet in the next few hours with a blow by blow explanation of how it's played and I am hoping that a bunch of you can run it and let us know of the results.  Let me say right up front that occasionally there are high bets that are required and once I've lost over 200 units on a shoe.  But, over the long haul I've won so much more than I've lost, the rare 200 unit loss is marginalized.  I play this on every hand and all the way to the end of the shoe.  You may find that by using a cut off point you'll have much better results.  Look for the attachment in awhile.
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: dannyjames1979 on November 23, 2009, 07:23:48 PM
i look forward to it, 200 units is acceptable if your wins out weigh it.
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: jsintl on November 23, 2009, 07:34:44 PM
Hi Wally,

I'm all ears.

Brgds,
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: Wally Gator on November 23, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
OK guys, run this down the runway and see what she does .......  I can only tell you of my own personal results and they've been exceptional.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: dannyjames1979 on November 23, 2009, 08:51:04 PM
cheers wally ill have a look at that tomorrow.
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: ADulay on November 23, 2009, 11:07:13 PM
Wally,

  I've played something very similar to that for many years and it's worked quite nicely.

  My only difference is that I play it to three losses and then when I do switch to the opposites, it's a straight zig-zag pattern so that those streaks of P or B don't kill you when they come up right off.   You'll catch every other one with the zig instead of the opposite.  When the zigs lose three, go back to the follow the last plan.

  Normally I would never post on any of these boards, but the similarities were too close to pass up.

  AD
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: roules on December 12, 2009, 08:57:38 AM
Hey Wally,
Thanks for sharing, I am slowly getting to testing this as time permits. Will be interesting to see how it goes on roulette too.
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: Wally Gator on December 12, 2009, 03:23:04 PM
Thanks Roules,

It's a very simple way of playing, but can provide some great profits.  I've also won with this flat betting and with minimal progressions.  You've got to decide for yourself what works best with it for you.
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: Worm on December 17, 2009, 07:37:25 AM
Thanks for sharing Wally  ;)
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: beo on December 19, 2009, 03:48:29 PM
Hi wally,

thx for sharing.  I've coded your system.  Now I juste need shoes to test it.  Could someone send me live or rng shoes written like this please  :

P
B
B
P

or

1
2
2
2
1
2

or BPPBPB or 122121221

I tested the system with numbers from random. org, 50 shoes, each shoe containing 100 numbers.

Results :

no stop loss
no stop win
total profit : -876

stop loss : -20
stop win : +10
total profit : +104

stop loss -15
stop win +13
total profit : +223

Beo
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: trylobit on December 20, 2009, 09:04:40 AM
Hi beo!

Regarding your stop loss.

If you take stop loss of -15 units. Are you ending shoe as soon as you hit -15, or do you go on through the progression and end up when -15 shows up for 3 times?

BTW
If you'd like I have 1000 shoes generated by wizardofodds and 1000 live shoes recorded in 1992.
They are both in BP format, but you can't do just copy paste.
If you are interested let me know, I'll send them to you.

Thanks.
Trylobit
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: mistarlupo on December 20, 2009, 10:46:48 AM
I can send you the file with 1M outcomes from this test:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/testing-zone/wally-gator%27s-baccarat-system-test/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/testing-zone/wally-gator%27s-baccarat-system-test/)

... and then compare the results.
Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: beo on December 21, 2009, 08:33:51 AM
Hi all,

@ trylobit

I'm ending a shoe as soon as I hit -15.
I'm really interested by your rng & live shoes, it would be great if you could send them to me. 
Of course I'll post my results.

@ mistarlupo

If you could send me your file, I'd be pleased to compare our results !

Regards,
beo

Title: Re: Something that may be promising ?
Post by: mistarlupo on December 21, 2009, 10:49:04 AM
Check your email.

Regards,
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