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Title: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 20, 2007, 08:30:27 AM
Here's really cool system that i've created with influence from Lanky's Victor's and AdvantagePLayer's Posts and efforts. And Jakkalsdraal posting the 6-Group Cornersystem here on the Forum, Thanks a lot Mate! And that i want Everybody to know about:=)  

It's Cornerbets integrated with the Lw:s and you're also betting on the L.s with the "Negative" Numbers. And it goes like this:
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"QUOTE": "Place 1 unit on the corners of 1,2,4,5  &  8,9,11,12  &  13,14,16,17  &  20,21,23,24  &   25,26,28,29  &  32,33,35,36.
":END QUOTE".

Ok so you got those corners. Good. Now what i did was to adapt the Lw:s with this since i obviously going to have some "loss" as well.


So a part of a session i played at DublinBet look like this: LwwLwLwLwwLwwLnolinksLww.  Notice the regularity in the pattern. Amazing ah?  Now, on the

L:s, i wanted to aim for another bet here as well BUT applying the "Negative Numbers", eg. Those Numbers that's NOT covered by the Corners. And these Numbers are:

3 6 7 10 15 18 19 22 27 30 31 34. Which I divide into six Splits: 3/6 7/10 15/18 19/22  27/30  31/34 AND a Single street to cover the 0 1 2 so you're betting 7 units here.  

Notice that those 12 numbers = our "own Dozen" here. (Thanks AdvantagePlayer for that idea btw)  Ok, HoW do we bet the L:s with Profit??

I noticed that the L-Hits in "Our own Dozen" came with the same regularity as with the "normal" L:s. The most w:s i had on the Corners(which always represent the w:s) was 5 in a row. So after that i waited for at least one L to come. While waiting for the L:s i played the w:s simultaneously.

BettingPlan:

Corners 3x6x9 etc.

Splits 1 1 1 2 or 1 1 2 3
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SUMMARY:
        Bet 6 Corners
        Use the Lw-strategy
        Learn to predict the presence of the "Negative"Number Dozen by counting the w:s  (Not easy but it can be done)
        Bet that Dozen on the potential L:s

        Ok, thats it!

MerryXMas Mates!   [smiley=Santa001.gif]
 
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on December 20, 2007, 10:15:44 AM
Hey Compa,

;)thanx for integrating my system with the others. It looks really interesting and promising. I'll give it a bash. ;D

I have also played around with adjusting the corner system by adding one split, the 0/3 split. Yes the profit is less but when that split hits, it makes up for it. I like using it where the zero region seems to be dominant so the 0 and the 3 comes in to play. I like the way you have integrated the splits as well, and by using Victor's & Lanky's LW's determining a pattern. Will give it a bash hopefully this weekend at Grand West. What has screwed me over was that one time though where I hit 5 L's in a row, wasn't nice at all...especially with the 3,6,9 progression.  :-/ At that stage I was up over double that I have started with, so that really hurt me! Especially because I got that invinsible feeling shortly before I got wacked! Anyway with proper goals, good money management and betting series' I think there's hope [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 20, 2007, 01:58:23 PM
Thats why we must predict the L:s my mate. Then we have the Grail!!! [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
The L:s tends to come in this situation just as frequent as in a default dozplay situation. Thats why its so great!

Merry Xmas [smiley=Santa001.gif]

/Compa

Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on December 21, 2007, 04:23:09 AM
Hey Compa. Point taken. ;)

The patterns I usually get would be like nolinkswLnolinksLLnolinkswwLL or something similar. I agree that predicting the L's will be quite profitable.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I am going to try a buddy system with the corner method. I'll play the corners as above while my buddy playes corners 1;2;4;5 / 7;8;10;11 / 14;15;17;18 / 20;21;23;24 / 25;26;28;29 / 31;32;34;35. I have done some testing on several patterns regarding corners, and these seem to work well as well. I know you are looking to hunt the L's as well but we are going to try a different way. We find that if we get a loss, sit out the next spin, if that is a L sit out again until the next w comes around, then jump in wit a progression 3 x the previous bet. I found that very seldom with this system one actually gets a LwLwLwLw type pattern because of basically the 2-1 numbers situation. Not saying it doesn't happen! I feel though that on changes the odds in ones favour that way especially with a buddy system where on sits out a round where the other play or even better, where both is on the board at the same time when overlapping nubers hit!  ;D YEEEEHHHAAAAAAA !

Anyway, I'm vety interested in your LW's hunting the L's. Keep me posted of how it goes! I'll do the same as soon as the buddy system gets tried out.

Kind regards

Cheers [smiley=beer.gif]

Jakkalsdraai
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 21, 2007, 06:40:20 AM
Sounds nice mate. I'll keep you informed about the progress! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 22, 2007, 06:15:17 AM
Hi Forum

Well today My Wife & I went to Star City Casino in Sydney.

I went loaded up with more money then usual.

I went there with one thought in mind & that was to play this system on the splits.

I would bet with the Dozen Recovery Plan. = 1 1 1 2 etc

Here is what happened.

I found a Rapid Roulette Table With Live Dealer where the Splits had Won Twice in 11 spins includeing a hit on the last Spin.

I reasoned that 2 hits in 11 spins was under the odds so I started to bet.

1) bet 1 lost-6
2) bet 1 lost-12
3) bet 1 lost-18
4) bet 2 lost-30
5) bet 2 lost-42
6) bet 3 lost-60
7) bet 4 lost-84
8) bet 5 lost-114
9) bet 6 lost-150
10) bet 8 lost-198
11) bet 10 lost-278
12) bet 12 lost-350>>> I decided to wait until another Hit & Backtrack 5 bets
13)
14)
15)
16) Won>>>>Now start betting again
17) bet 5 lost-380
18) bet 6 lost-416
19) bet 8 lost-464
20) bet 10 lost-524
21) bet 12 lost-596>>

I stopped Betting the splits altogether & watched the results.

It went to spin 28 before another Hit. It Had 2 hits in 28 Spins.

As I see it Now.....I did not see it at first but the Main problem with these splits are that there are none on the 2nd Column.

Every time the 2nd Column Trends You will Lose....Like Today the 2nd Column Hit 9 & 7 times in A Row.

OK I was Unlucky I lost playing a Table with a Dealer that was Hot on Hitting the 2nd Column.
But That won't take the problem away if the That Columns trends on You.
Plus there is another 13 numbers that can beat beat You.

We Have to come up with a way to bet or combat the 2nd Column when its trending.

Does that mean changing the Splits ??.....I don't know.....All I know is that it cost me plenty to find this out.

It was as if there was a magnet on those 13 other numbers & the 2nd Column.

Ronjo was right it Won't Work as it is Now.

Thank God I stopped when I did......It could have been a heck of a lot worse.

All was not lost I won $400 back Playing a Combination of My Evens Dozens & Columns Systems along with a couple of nice wins with John Solitude's Method.

I Made Two Glaring Mistakes.

1) I Was not betting withe the 6 point Divisor Plan

2) I Was not betting the Lw Method.

It won't Happen Again I can Assure You.

Your Friend

Lanky
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 22, 2007, 08:09:30 AM
Yes i read your post at RouletteForum and im very sorry for you here:(. I totally agree that we have to incorporate the 2:nd Column. On hte other hand, when it trends we might take advantage of it, what do you think mate?

Warm Regards
Your Friend Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 22, 2007, 09:24:08 AM
Compar.

Mate it is not your fault Buddy.

I had a choice & I made the wrong choice....

The Important thing is that We all learnt something from it.

I am OK.....I will survive a $200 loss mate......

The reason I posts My losses is because If people ask I post My wins.

I have only had 3 losses all year.....

Anyone can post their Wins.......But if I am to be Fairdinkum Then I should post my losses too if it can be a benifit to others.

The Important things I see here is How Valuable the 6 Point Divisor Plan is.

If I had used that I would have saved a lot on the losses Mate.

And How vulnerable these splits are to the 2nd Column.

As long as we can take some positives out of a loss its not so bad Mate.

I still walked out with plenty of Money in My Pocket Mate.

Plus My Wife & I got $60 worth of Freebies.....Food ...Parking Etc

And she won On the Slots......How Much I don't know...But She was leaning to the right with the weight of the coins in her Bag.....And she had a Bloody grip on it that Hercules could not get it off Her....LMAO


Lanky







Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: roger on December 22, 2007, 10:30:29 AM
QuoteCompar.

Mate it is not your fault Buddy.

I had a choice & I made the wrong choice....

The Important thing is that We all learnt something from it.

I am OK.....I will survive a $200 loss mate......

The reason I posts My losses is because If people ask I post My wins.

I have only had 3 losses all year.....

Anyone can post their Wins.......But if I am to be Fairdinkum Then I should post my losses too if it can be a benifit to others.

The Important things I see here is How Valuable the 6 Point Divisor Plan is.

If I had used that I would have saved a lot on the losses Mate.

And How vulnerable these splits are to the 2nd Column.

As long as we can take some positives out of a loss its not so bad Mate.

I still walked out with plenty of Money in My Pocket Mate.

Plus My Wife & I got $60 worth of Freebies.....Food ...Parking Etc

And she won On the Slots......How Much I don't know...But She was leaning to the right with the weight of the coins in her Bag.....And she had a Bloody grip on it that Hercules could not get it off Her....LMAO


Lanky








Huh? i dont understand , the hole 2nd column is coverd with this system maby i understand you wrong.

But its a good thing that you also put down your loses, i also had some problems ans made some stupid mistakes.
Wednesday it was i geuss, i started with a €1000 euro bankroll and within a short period of time i went bankrupt.
Oke, thats stupid but the next mistake i made is even worse i went to the ATM machine and pinned another €1000 and geus what?? of course i went bankruppt, Fortunately i went home after that but its unforgiven it realy is.
Last night i won it all back , i won €5048 realy i never been so luccy, or luck isticked to my gameplan this time and i used my dozen recovery system only twice and after that i hided the roof.  ;D
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 22, 2007, 05:53:12 PM
QuoteHuh? I dont understand , the hole 2nd column is coverd with this system maby I understand you wrong.

But its a good thing that you also put down your loses, I also had some problems ans made some stupid mistakes.
Wednesday it was I geuss, I started with a €1000 euro bankroll and within a short period of time I went bankrupt.
Oke, thats stupid but the next mistake I made is even worse I went to the ATM machine and pinned another €1000 and geus what?? of course I went bankruppt, Fortunately I went home after that but its unforgiven it realy is.  
Last night I won it all back , I won €5048 realy I never been so luccy, or luck isticked to my gameplan this time and I used my dozen recovery system only twice and after that I hided the roof.  

Hi roger

Yes Mate the 2nd Column is covered if you are playing the Corners.

I was Not I was playing the Splits only ( Stupid of Me )

I am So Happy That You won It All Back Mate.

And to Those People reading This....Never go to the ATM to get More Money..Go Home Instead.

hahahhahahha@ Roger.....You can come down from the Roof now Mate.......LMAO

Your Friend

Lanky
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on December 23, 2007, 04:50:34 AM
Hey Lanky, ;)

how are things Mate. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Haven't chatted to you in a long time! I'm on holiday though (at last!). Maybe we'll catch up.  8-)

Interesting why you decided to only play the splits. :-/ To me this does not make sense. I tried the corner system again last night. [smiley=happy.gif] This works very well. When I do get a loss though I use the splits the very next spin. ( [smiley=dankk2.gif] Compa) So far they seem to hit at least once after they hit.
I only play that once. I then wait for the corners to hit again. Once they hit I play them every spin until I loose where I then go through the whole process again.

One can qualify the table pretty quickly as well by just checking the last couple of spins. (yip I know you know this  :D)  Like I've said before I have actually hit 19 wins in a row with the corners and then 5 in a row on the splits (which unfortunately I wasn't interested in at that time [smiley=shocked.gif]). You have to combine the two. You can imagine how much it hurt when those 5 in a row splits came around and I was progressing 3 x the previous bet the whole time! [smiley=cry.gif] :-[ :-? >:( [smiley=rolleyes.gif] [smiley=shocked.gif]

I believe Compa  [smiley=dankk2.gif] has got something here by playing both corners and splits and using Vics and your Lw system.
I also believe though that if one was gonna play either splits or corners sustem, I'd stick to corners. That second column does seem to trend more than not!

Anyhow that is my humble opinion (of someone that still has to win alot to catch up to the losses!) [smiley=lolk.gif]

Cheers Mate, hope we chat soon again!  [smiley=beer.gif]
Jakkalsdraai

"drive left, pass right...pass out next to the road...leopard crawl home...in reverse"
Ok that didn't make sense!
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 23, 2007, 08:17:29 AM
Good Job there Mate! I'll try a little development on the Splits. And will keep you updated as it goes along.

MerryXmas

/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 23, 2007, 08:33:54 AM
Hi Jakk

Yes mate it will be good to catch up in the chat.

And yes mate I think I have proven the Corner part works.....LMAO

Lanky
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on December 23, 2007, 03:17:16 PM
 [smiley=lolk.gif] And how mate! Point taken! ;D

You going to try this system with you Lw's?

I would of gone to Grand West today but Christmas shopping put a brake on that idea! Only started shopping today!  :oSo I'm behind the black ball. Anyhow, ended up buying more presents for myself than for the  intended peolple! ::) And of course for my sons I bought Playstation and some games...off course not for my use at all [smiley=engel017.gif]...well I have to show them how it works and so forth ::)...and off course that F1 game and the Ferrari game will be too difficult for them so they will have to learn from me :D...not that I wanted to play playstation at all... [smiley=engel017.gif]

So hopefully I will hit the tables tomorrow with a calm vengeance, last seen ... well never seen before 8-)

Will go Corners and splits with ya Lw system.

Hold thumbs! (Have to win some of those presents' money back)  [smiley=lolk.gif]

One more thing, ya lucky first world gentlemen! [smiley=laugh.gif]. I guess Euros and other overseas currencies to ya guys is like Rands to us :'(...I'm referring to Roger who withdrew 1000 euros (twice!) That is only about R10 000.00 x 2 = R 20 000.00 !

OK...to me that's quite serious dough! Hey Roger can I come and work for you!  [smiley=lolk.gif] I'll be ya sidekick!

Cheers!  [smiley=beer.gif]
Jakkalsdraai

"The person who said that money cannot make you happy, has never had any... so I'm saying it.





Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 23, 2007, 06:02:26 PM
Hi Jakk

Mate what a good father You are...

Nice of You to make sure that the children know how to play those games correctly right from the start.

By learning from You First.....Not that You want to play them of course.......LMAO.

Mate Roger is obviously Richer then You & I.

But like me He made the mistake like we all have at one time or another of going to the ATM
and getting more money out.

If he Had not done that He would be another 1000 Euros Richer.

If I had used the Divisor Plan I would have won at the end of the day.

I think that its pretty clear that if I had not played the splits I would have had a wonderful day.

I also think that if My Aunty had a D*ck She would have been My Uncle.....

We all have to pay a price for Stupidity Sooner or Later.....Roger & I have Paid Ours.

Rodger is back on the right side of the Ledger now...and good for Him.

I won $400 of the $600 back.....

I also won $60 earlier which is in the Winning Bank.

And Now no-one is going to make the same Mistake I did.....Hopefully.

I did not Have to put that post here......I did because I wanted good people like Yourself Jakk to learn from My Mistake.

There is only one reason I do that.......Post everytime I lose.....Why ??

Because I want people to be BETTER then Me at Roulette.

To Know that the session from Hell Is still out there waiting to bite people on the Arse.

And that I don't win all the time.....I don't know anyone that does....

Your friend

Lanky
























Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on December 24, 2007, 05:26:44 AM
 [smiley=lolk.gif]
No didn't mean that I haven't been there either!  :'(

That's why they have the ATM's right there in plain view...and why the ATM's are just as busy as the slots!!!!  ;D

Just meant that what's alot of money for me, most probably isn't for another. But again I agree fully with you. We all do stupid things when at the tables especially when it's at the spur of the moment kind of thing!

Well today is my turn...hopefully not to do a stupid thing!...but to go to the casino and hopefully make a modest winning! ;D (nothing more than the equivalent of say...mmm... 100 000 euros or so... with a start up of say 50 euros...Oh sh*t the stupidity has started and I'm not even there yet!!! ;D :D :o

[smiley=lolk.gif] Anyhow, hold 'em thumbs starting today with R500.00 and going for R1500.00

Cheers Lanky (May the force be with you)
Jakkalsdraai

* I ran my hands through the long golden luxurious locks of hair...suddenly she spoke:"Stop playing with yourself and pay some attention to me!"
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 24, 2007, 06:55:21 AM
Hello mate and merry Christmas to you all!.

Well,some interesting observations made concerning this riddling playstructure: The Splits tends to come in pairs or even more at the time. The corners generally goes for 4-6spins before a Split hits.  Now,the Splits can sleep for 11 or more spins. But there will also be patterns like :

LwLwLw or LwwLww or LLw LLw

The most common pattern though is still: LnolinkswwLLnolinkswLLnolinksnolinksLLLww etc..

This observation is made on a basis of 300 spins. It might be to less, but in that case its a remarkable coincidence...lol.  

Cheers
/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on December 24, 2007, 12:34:31 PM
OK I just typed whole reply and somehow I managed to loose it... [smiley=cry.gif]

Well here we go again.

Hi guys! ;)

Yes Compa has a point that the splits mostly come up in two's. I put it down to dealer signature. These splits are quite prominant in the 90 degree and 270 degree sectors. Now if a dealer hits these sectors twice or more and then hits the 0 degree sector where 15 and 19 sits. There's your answer to a nice loosing streak. (slits)

I played at Grand West today and started noticing this (sectors that is.)
I had a titanic struggle with the Casino today. Started with R400.00, went up to R1440.00 (Target was R1500.00) Everything up to then not too bad. Then big losses, ended up with R435.00. Quickly realized that the changed croupier wasn't a nice person...
Left the table dejected, but joined the table next to it (both have touch screens) Build my way up with a much nicer Croupier to R1550.00. Yes I know...that's my target but the Croupier was so consistant that I thought what the heck! Went up to R1700.00.

Took a chance but put my stop loss up to R1500.00 (so now that's locked away!) Raised my bets basically used the hole R200.
Won again. So I went eventually on up to R2350.00. OOOOOOHHHHHH No!@!%$#@@*&*#$% changed Croupier again!  [smiley=angry.gif]Man did I have another battle again! Should of just walked away when they changed. Anyhow went up and down from there but eventually I decided to quit on a very healthy and believe ne enjoyable R2180.00!! YEEEHHHHAAAAAA. Thank you Grand West Casino for funding some of my costs(presents and holiday money). It was a pleasure!!!!  ;D ;D

O yes that is only abot 235 euros.... [smiley=rolleyes.gif] :-[

Yip guess small things amuse small minds! But remember atoms amused Einstein! .......OK I'n not quite Einstein......OK I almost lost this Post again (damn, what button is that !....) OK I'm not even close, haven't even got the hair...

Cheers everyone. Now I have to go work out E=mc x beer x 3 or something.... [smiley=beer.gif]
Jakkalsdraai

Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: cps10 on December 24, 2007, 01:03:02 PM
Great work mate Jakk! That's good that you won a little bit today.

Good on you Mate!
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 24, 2007, 06:37:20 PM
Good On Ya Jakk.

Good win Mate.

I am proud of you Buddy.

Have a good one Cobber

Lanky
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on December 25, 2007, 05:03:47 AM
Thanx guys! Your support is appreciated! Yes it was good to win again.  [smiley=dankk2.gif]

Anyhow I recorded all the spins of yesterday if you'd like them posted (used the Corner/splits system.) If anyone wants to view them I'll post them. Actually also won some bets in hunting the L's. Still found it difficult to hunt (confidance lacking in that department!!)

I'm gonna go and have a lovely Christmas now...my sons have difficulty with that playstation...better do the fatherly thing and help out....

Merry Christmas to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers

Jakkalsdraai

PS. Must be the crapiest time of the year for turkeys...
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 25, 2007, 09:59:17 AM
Great Win Mate! Here´'s my session at DublinBet 25/12 -07

Now, the bracketed L:s with the roof-signs are wins on the Splits and the w:s are wins on the Corners. And actually, in this case the pattern below is more a recording of the Lw:s in order to catch the L:s than a regular "systemplay" with the Lw:s.  

Profit made : 110 units

LnolinksnolinksnolinkswStarting here->(L^)(w)nolinksw(L^)nolinks(w)w(L^)L(w)(w)(w)w(L^)nolinks(L^)L ww(w)Lww(L^)wL(L^)-STOP


The Hunt continues...

Cheers mates

/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 26, 2007, 05:37:31 AM
Hi Guys

Well seeing as i posted my Last Loss of $200 in here.

I Got Back in the Saddele today with a $136 Win.

Have a great break with Your Loved One,s

Lanky
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on December 26, 2007, 06:31:54 AM
Great stuff Lanky!  ;) ;D
It seems to be going well with us all.  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]  Made another R700 profit today! Going back tonight. Got some hits on the L's as well!

Cheers! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]

Jakkalsdraai
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 26, 2007, 05:40:22 PM
Jakk

My Mate I did not use the light grail to win the $136 Yesterday.

I merely posted the win Here because I had posted the loss Here Cobber.

Its Great that you guys are winning with it though.

And I hope that You win with it for a lifetime Buddy.

Lanky
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 27, 2007, 12:30:44 AM
Hi Guys

Its good to be back on the right side of Ledger after Winning $108 today.

I used the L/Grail A Few Times Today Only differently.

A few times after the splits hit 3 in a row I bet Against them not to come up.

Lanky
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: cps10 on December 27, 2007, 01:03:48 AM
Good on ya Mate!
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 27, 2007, 08:08:36 AM
QuoteGood on ya Mate!

Thanks For the support Keith.

I appreciate it Mate.

Lanky


Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 27, 2007, 10:03:47 AM
Hey Lanky my Mate! Good to read that we are using the systym creatively:) Im just going for the L:s right now and made 100# earlier today.

Happy New Year!

/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Ronjo on December 27, 2007, 12:54:11 PM
Hi Compa,
As promised I have been working on the corner system I have been testing on real latest spins from Spielbank Hamburg for a thousand spins with a session of ten sets of a 100 spins on roulette extreme and came out tops, now I will test for real money play in our casino and let you know if its improved from my original that I posted way back on the other forum,I will need about a week to test a thousand spins so in the new year if it passes the test I will post what I have done and the results.
Ronjo.
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: cps10 on December 27, 2007, 04:55:21 PM
Thanks Ronjo! I look forward to reading about your successes and tweaks!   [smiley=dankk2.gif]
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 27, 2007, 05:49:39 PM
Hey Ronjo my Mate! You are a real Friend. Good luck to you and thanks a lot for helping me and everybody by doing this, wow, you are Great! Have an incredibly Happy New Year!  [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Best Regards
/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 28, 2007, 02:54:10 AM
QuoteHey Ronjo my Mate! You are a real Friend. Good luck to you and thanks a lot for helping me and everybody by doing this, wow, you are Great! Have an incredibly Happy New Year!  [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Best Regards
/Compa

I would like to agree with eveything that has been said about Ronjo.

Thanks Mate

Lanky
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on December 28, 2007, 06:41:14 AM
Hey Guys!  ;D

Again been successful! Upped the stakes. Started with R2000. Ended with R3900.00. Did incorporate sectors though as well. Used the corners as a back up. Did another interesting study. I'm busy with about a +/- 1000 spins I have recorded at Grand West. What I'm doing is I'm taking every number from 0 - 36 and I'm checking which numbers followed each of the 0-36 numbers.

Example: I take Zero, go through the whole 1000 numbers and check which numbers hit after the Zero. I do this for every number. I'm at number 20 now. ::) Takes quite a bit of time. So far interesting results though. Will post results if anyone is interested. Want to incorporate it into my corners system.

Cheers and happy and successful gambling!  [smiley=beer.gif]

Jakkalsdraai

Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 28, 2007, 07:52:46 AM
Let the GameLab continue! This is what i did Jack:

Played a variation on the corners yesterday. Instead of play all 6 corners I picked 3 and played single bets on that numbers depending on what 2 dozens that were trending. Eg. Dozen 1 and 2 were up for like 4 spins with two or more hits in either dozen, eg. 5 1 13 16. Then I played numbers:  

8 9 11 12 (c2) 13 14 16 17(c3)  20 21 23 24 (c4) single bets = 12 units. Also played splits all over:)  

In that way you get an automatic elimination of the 3 6 7 10 15 18 19 22 27 30 31 34 numbers as long as you got nolinks or more on the corners.  
We simultaneously play the Lw:s on the dozens as well so that we can compare/coordinate the hits in the dozens with our Lw:s on the corner/splits bets.

Sorry if this sounds complicated but it isnt.

Happy New Year!

/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 28, 2007, 07:36:14 PM
Oh yes! That is the intention:) As long as we dont stumble into the Session of Hell, as i did several times this past week. Lucky i played Virtual Play only, *phew*.


Happy New Year mates!


/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Lanky on December 29, 2007, 02:57:31 AM
Compar.

I deleted my other Post because it was wrong.(I did not notice it either Mate)...lol

If you are on corners 2-3-4=12 numbers

Plus the 6 splits.=12 numbers

That means that there is still 12 numbers to knock you out.
Numbers 1-2-4-5-25-26-28-29-32-33-35-36

That is If I have read Your Post right ??

Lanky

Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 29, 2007, 04:56:10 AM
Yes that is correct but you can also play 4 "corners" with Splits. That will give us a 10 unit profit each win! Means we are covering 2 dozens at the time:)


Cheers
/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: cps10 on December 29, 2007, 10:40:01 AM
Two dozens at a time is okay, but then you have to make sure you have Lw patterns for all of the numbers that you are covering. Otherwise, you will get hammered with the other numbers that you are not.
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 29, 2007, 12:33:44 PM
Of course. I play 2 different variations and watching the trend of our "negative" Dozen: 3 6 7 10 15 18 19 22 27 30 31 34 at the same time.

Variation 1 contains of JD:s with 8 units covering two dozens giving 8 units in profit. (This is for play at DublinBet)

Variation 2 contains of JD:S  with 12 units covering 2 dozens: 4 splits and 8 single numbers.

Now, if there's a Dealer that hits nolinksnolinkswLnolinkswL etc. (where the w:s represent the "corners" and the L:s the "negative"dozen)

I will go for the L:s as well. But if the Dealer goes for a Hell-session like this: LL-nolinksLLwLLwLwwLLLwLLLnolinkswwLw
Ill stick to the "corner"bets and try to avoid the L:s.

Cheers
/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: bobco on December 29, 2007, 01:21:21 PM
QuoteHey Guys!  ;D

Again been successful! Upped the stakes. Started with R2000. Ended with R3900.00. Did incorporate sectors though as well. Used the corners as a back up. Did another interesting study. I'm busy with about a +/- 1000 spins I have recorded at Grand West. What I'm doing is I'm taking every number from 0 - 36 and I'm checking which numbers followed each of the 0-36 numbers.

Example: I take Zero, go through the whole 1000 numbers and check which numbers hit after the Zero. I do this for every number. I'm at number 20 now. ::) Takes quite a bit of time. So far interesting results though. Will post results if anyone is interested. Want to incorporate it into my corners system.

Cheers and happy and successful gambling!  [smiley=beer.gif]

Jakkalsdraai


Hi,
Is this from an on-line casino (RNG) or from a live wheel online?
Thanks
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on December 29, 2007, 01:42:55 PM
Vi lirar bara Live vettu:D lol.


Happy New Year!!
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: bobco on December 29, 2007, 02:33:53 PM
QuoteVi lirar bara Live vettu:D lol.


Happy New Year!!

Well, almost I think..sometimes difficult to know.
Happy new year all!
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on January 02, 2008, 03:56:37 PM
 ;DHey guys!

Hi Bobco. Sorry for being away so long from the posts. The Casino I play at is a brick and plaster Casino! :D

Reason I haven't been around is because I've been at the Casino the whole time! ::) Well not all the time... I did sleep at home!

Ayhow altogether 11 sessions (sessions varied from 3 hours to the longest session of 14 hours!)
From these last 11 sessions I have had 9 wins totalling R11 135.00 - (start up money) R4 500.00. Two loosing sessions of a total of R2500.00. Total profit = R5 135.00! ;D

Used corners only as a backup and now and then integrated it with my new strategy. My new strategy worked exceptionally well, but I have found that as time goes on aND i DO NOT UPGRADE IT, it becomes more and more difficult to win up to the point where I took a loss last night.

My stategy worked like this. I took about the 1000  spins that I recorded over a couple of days while playing. I then took every number starting with zero through to 36 and went through the recorded numbers to see which numbers followed. In other words I took let's say the Zero. I then went through my 1000 recorded numbers and I listed every nuber that was spun after a Zero came up. The numbers that featured more than once were marked as such. So after spending two days doing this. I had a series of numbers spun for each number on the wheel. Average worked out to be between say 25-32 spins per number. The amount of different numbers recorded per number amounted on avarage to be +/- say 18 numbers. (obviously some nubers repeated or trippled)

I now went to the same wheel where I recorded this and played these numbers straight up. For instance

10 was spun. I now look on my list and find that after a 10 was spun the, following numbers was recorded 0, 3, 4, 5 x 2, 8 x 3, 12 x 2, 15 x 2, 16, 17, 19 x 3, 20, 28x 2.

And so I place my bets 1 chip on 0,3,4,16,17,20 each; 2 chips on 5,12,15,28 each, 3 chips on 8,19

The above is just an example.

Anyhow this worked incredibly with the same numbers hitting frequantly. Now and then a loss but mostly I made alright profit on the single bets the doubles worked beautifully, but the tripples were the icing on the cake! Yes one bet would be most probably about a R150 on a R5 table, but the first day I tried it I started wit R500 shot up to R5000! Unfortunately the day after although I still won was more of a battle and the next day even harder until eventually I came up short. So my conclusion is that there are series of numbers that come up after numbers spun which repeat but after time fade awa. so one would have to update the numbers every say 3 days and do away with numbers recorded earliest. I found as time went on, on the third day of using the same numbers I started hitting more and more numbers with only one chip on and not hitting the doubles or the tripples at all. So after winning say three hands on single numbers, a couple losses (which do occur!) will wipe you out eventually. So upgrading the numbers, that seems to be the key!

I now have to redo my list with the numbers from the last couple of days before I go play again.  [smiley=rolleyes.gif]Yip it's a time consuming and very boring exercise, but when you sit at the tables and you hit a tripple (R525 on a R5 table) with one spin and you then hit say two or three singles a double and then again a tripple! Man that's fun and exitement!  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] Anyhow you guys that do record every day at your favourite casinos. take the last say 1000 spins and give it a try! [smiley=beer.gif]

Nice to be back after a considerable war in the Casino! I have won the battle for now but I know the war is very much far from won. Last night proved this for me!  :'(

[smiley=lolk.gif] So we learn though, cause I didn't think recalculating the numbers would be necessary! Well obviously it is, and obviously I'm not playing on a bias wheel! Sh*t!!!!! [smiley=cheesy.gif]

Anyhow gonna stay away for a week or so and then record last 1000 numbers again and then start all over again! ... nice!

Cheers AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: MattyMattz on January 02, 2008, 04:07:50 PM
Hey Jak,

glad to hear your doing well with this new plan of yours.  Don't know if it would help, but I'm sure I could make an excel spreadsheet that would do all the calculations for you once you input the 1000 numbers.  Might save you some time.  

Send me a note if you'd like me to make it.

Cheers and good luck!
Matt
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on January 02, 2008, 04:23:19 PM
Hey Matty that sounds excellent! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I would appreciate it very much!, What would you need from me?

Thanx again Mate! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Jakkalsdraai  [smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Compa on January 02, 2008, 05:44:37 PM
Hey Jack! You should talk to Gizmo about this. He can build a program that collects the numbers automatically. Send him a PM mate. Good Luck

/Compa
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: MattyMattz on January 02, 2008, 06:02:11 PM
Hey Jakkalsdraai,

no problem.  Shouldn't need anything from you.  I can set it up so all you do is insert the numbers into column 1 and on the side it will give a list of each number and how many times it was followed by each other number.  Does that sound about right?  

Shouldn't take me too long, maybe an hour.  I'll start working on it.

Cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: MattyMattz on January 02, 2008, 11:08:45 PM
Hey Jakk,

all done.  Just gonna clean it up a little but it works great.  I'm signing off right now but will be back on tomorrow morning.  Send me a PM with your email and I'll send it off to yah.

Cheers,
Matt
[smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on January 02, 2008, 11:33:51 PM
Thanx Mate!

Will send you PM. The spread sheet will make data alot easier! ;)

Thanx again!
Jakkalsdraai [smiley=beer.gif]

PS. Are you going to give the system a try?
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: MattyMattz on January 03, 2008, 11:40:09 AM
Hey Jakk,

I will definately try to test the system when I get the chance, but IMHO I can't see it doing that well unless it's a bias wheel.  But I wish you all the luck and hope the spreadsheet makes your life a little easier!

Cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: The Holy Grail Light! Thanks to Lanky-Victor
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on January 07, 2008, 07:09:50 AM
Hey Matty!  ;D

Thanx for the spread sheet Mate!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

It's very much appreciated. Came around the office to pick it up. Will feed in some numbers later on. Did try it though just quickly with fictitious numbers. Works great! Will save me hours & hours!

Thanx again!  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

Cheers Mate  [smiley=beer.gif]

Jakkalsdraai