Hi Guys,
I played four sessions of over 300 spins each and won all four.not bad I will post over the next week or two and show how I did it.
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Regards,
Ronjo.
As in who's method? Ken
Quote from: Mr J on August 09, 2010, 11:44:12 AM
As in who's method? Ken
Hello Ken,
I normally play six to twelve numbers only in roulette my favourite being twelve numbers,and this is a twelve number mehod of mine which has been giving me great results although I use a little progresion it is still a good method.I just need bit of time to illustrate how to use it correctly on the forum.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Hi Ronjo,
Nice results.
Great to have you back. I hope everything is going great.
Kind regards
Jakk
Always nice to see you here Ronjo.
Looking forward to see how you achieved those great results :thumbsup:
TSK
Hello everyone,
OK lets get started,look at the following numbers in their groups and then look at the position of these numbers on the wheel (not the table layout) and tell me what you see,and then look at past real plays (numbers) you have had and tell me what you see.
This is a bit of homework for you to do before we play,you will be pleasantly surprised at what you see.
Here are the groups:
Group 1:
0-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36
Group 2:
2-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-32
Group 3:
1-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-31
I will take you through step by step so you understand why I have chozen these numbers.Bear in mind these numbers have nothing to do with the table layout,and is designed from the wheel layout.
Those of you who are new to roulette need to understand that playing any "system" based on a table layout will get you in trouble very quick,as that is what is generally expected of you.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Hi, Ronjo, glad to see you back here.
Now to your question, what one can see, this is what I saw:
I marked your groups on an European Wheel, waht I saw was there were very few groups repeating , means par. 15, 19 (neighbours on the wheel) groups, 3,3 or 21,2,25 (neighbours on the wheel) groups 2,2,2.
If I counted correct there were only 11 numbers ( nearly 1/3 of the wheel), which were neighbours on the wheel and neighbours of your group 1,2 or 3.
This is, what I sawon my first view on the wheel.
With best regards
kawa4711
If you cut the wheel in half from the zero down, then I noticed a certain symmetry of the groups, especially in regards to group 2.
Great to see you posting Ronjo.
Hope everything is good with you.............
iggy
I can see number 3 not assigned to any group.
Quote from: bombus on August 10, 2010, 08:31:06 PM
I can see number 3 not assigned to any group.
Me too.
And something else very peculiar,or is it only me.
I NOTICE That the groups are the same as the ones you used in the past,the only difference is you changed the 3 for the zero.
Quote from: bombus on August 10, 2010, 08:31:06 PM
I can see number 3 not assigned to any group.
Sorry Bombus,a slip of the finger that went unnoticed by me,it's in now.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Quote from: WARRIOR on August 11, 2010, 10:15:45 AM
I NOTICE That the groups are the same as the ones you used in the past,the only difference is you changed the 3 for the zero.
Hello warrior,
Yes they are,but I have changed the betting method,in the last method we bet on the most dominant group in the last three spins,but I will go through it with you in the next few days probably on the weekend, I will post the new procedure of betting as I am quite busy all day and my days are long,but we will get there.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Great Ronjo!
I am realy looking forwoard to it.
I am familiar with your past method which Lanky(unfortunately he is not active anymore) fully explained to me.
Look at the wheel and you will see the numbers with the red arrows are Group 1 and Groups 2and 3 are with the green arrows.
You will see one sector with our green arrows very tight spread over a 8 pocket area (with only #4 in between them) 32-15-19-4-21-2-25-17 then you will see a sector also spread over a 8 pockt area with #'s 36-30-8 from group 1 in between 27-13-36-1-30-8-23-10 and you have the same on the other side of the wheel with #'s 24-16-33-1-20-20-14-31 spread over 7 pockets and then 22-18-29-7-28-12-35-3-26 spread over 9 pockets.
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So we will do an exercise with these groups:
The first group we will call loners as follows:
0-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36
Then group 2:
2-10-11-13-15-17-19-21-23-25-27-32
Then group 3:
1-12-14-16-18-20-22-24-26-28-29-31
I will post a bit later with the next step in the mean time take all the above in.
Regards
Ronjo.
I can t see the picture !?
Wecome back Ronjo , and thanks for sharing.
I am a fan and a player of 12 inside numbers (at a certain distance,pockets...) ,so
I am sure is a good method. Waiting for the next step.
OK this exercise is to get you familar with the different groups,now we will look for a pattern or "dealer signature"
if we had these numbers come up.
23-20-36-9-27
This is a good play.we are looking for three hits in a 5 to 9 pocket spread out of 4 to 7 spins anywhere on the wheel.
Then what we do is we split the wheel in two :
0-32-15-19-4-21-2-25-17-34-6-27-13-36-11-30-8-23-10
5-24-16-33-1-2014-31-9-22-18-29-7-28-12-35-3-26-0
so in spin 1 we have #23 spin 2 #20 spin 3 #36 spin 4 #9 spin 5 #27
so we have a 7 pocket play in 5 spins.
So our pattern is in the top half of the wheel,now we play our group of 12 #'s and take out the loners which will be like this;
32-15-19-21-2-25-17-27-13-1-23-10
and if we had the same patern in the bottom half of the wheel we would play that group.
which would be:
24-16-1-20-14-31-22-18-29-28-12-26
We play for three spins until a win no progression.
So if any of you understand this please go and test for awhile.
This is not the final method,I am taking you through steps that led me to the method I will finally show you.
It's not the holygrail but you could call it a "money train" LOL
Remember dont'play the loners.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Quote from: Ronjo on August 12, 2010, 01:51:17 PM
Look at the wheel and you will see the numbers with the red arrows are Group 1 and Groups 1and 2 are with the green arrows.
You will see one sector with our green arrows very tight spread over a 8 pocket area (with only #4 in between them) 32-15-19-4-21-2-25-17 then you will see a sector also spread over a 8 pockt area with #'s 36-30-8 from group 1 in between 27-13-36-1-30-8-23-10 and you have the same on the other side of the wheel with #'s 24-16-33-1-20-20-14-31 spread over 7 pockets and then 22-18-29-7-28-12-35-3-26 spread over 9 pockets.
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hi rojo you r saying that group 1 are in the red but the you say that group 1and 2 are in the green whre is the 3 ,thax w.
So we will do an exercise with these groups:
The first group we will call loners as follows:
0-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36
Then group 2:
2-10-11-13-15-17-19-21-23-25-27-32
Then group 3:
1-12-14-16-18-20-22-24-26-28-29-31
I will post a bit later with the next step in the mean time take all the above in.
Regards
Ronjo.
Ronjo
Bakgat! there is more to this than anyone can say. The lines and the triangles form groups to play. Very GOOD man I like to see stuff like this. very hot!!!!! :good:
Hey Warrior,
I am sorry to confuse you I have corrected it G1-G2-G3 ,there are two sets of numbers I posted but ignore (A)BUT USE (B)
(A)
G1 0-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36
G2 2-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-32
G3 1-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-31
But conentrate on (B) which is a scramble of the above one:
(B)
G1 0-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36
G2 2-10-11-13-15-17-19-2-23-25-27-32
G3 1-12-14-16-18-20-22-24-26-28-29-31
Once you have your signal or signature play the group for three spins and then look for another signal and do the same again.
So post your findings and then we can move on to the next stage.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Hi ronjo
I am a little confused what do you mean
"so we have a 7 pocket play in 5 spins."
Hi Ronjo
So,just to clarify, we are waiting for a signal from any one of those THREE sets of numbers posted above in #20?
Thanks
The Spiders Kiss
Quote from: Boo_Ray on August 14, 2010, 02:11:42 AM
Hi ronjo
I am a little confused what do you mean
"so we have a 7 pocket play in 5 spins."
Hey Ray,
Read on the previous posts carefully,I know it can be a bit confusing but once you grasp what I am doing it will be a walk in the park.
1) you must have 3 numbers out of 4 to 7 spins in a 4 to 9 pocket spread for a signal.
2) If you dont get a three number spread over 4-9 pockets in 7 spins look for a new signal.
3) And if the signal is in the top half you play G2 and if the signal is in the bottom half you play G3.
4) And G1 you dont even consider you leave those numbers out.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Look at the illustration below it is simple.
We have a 3 number spread over 7 pockets in 5 spins.
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Quote from: Ronjo on August 14, 2010, 08:59:57 AM
Hey Ray,
Read on the previous posts carefully,I know it can be a bit confusing but once you grasp what I am doing it will be a walk in the park.
1) you must have 3 numbers out of 4 to 7 spins in a 4 to 9 pocket spread for a signal.
2) If you dont get a three number spread over 4-9 pockets in 7 spins look for a new signal.
3) And if the signal is in the top half you play G1 and if the signal is in the bottom half you play G3.
4) And G1 you dont even consider you leave those numbers out.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Look at the illustration below it is simple.
We have a 3 number spread over 7 pockets in 5 spins.
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AFTER A WIN RONJO DO YOU TRACK 4 -7 MORE SPINS CORRECT. AND G2 THERE IS NO MENTION OF THAT FOR THE BOttom or top half thanx W.
Hey Warrior sorry about that ,I had so much on my plate this morning and I was rushing to post for you guys,I was doing a 100 and 1 things at the same time.Yes the top half play G2 and the bottom half play G3 and G1 is left out completely.
Yes after a win track for 1-7 spins and after 3 losses flat betting track 1-7 spins for a 3 number out of 4 to 7 numbers spread over 9 pockets.
I did the correction.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Hey ronjo, thanks for explaining.. Now I understeand :)
I got confused with that top and bottom half, and when I was looking at numbers and wheel, it was left and right half xD
Quote from: Boo_Ray on August 15, 2010, 04:28:49 AM
Hey ronjo, thanks for explaining.. Now I understeand :)
I got confused with that top and bottom half, and when I was looking at numbers and wheel, it was left and right half xD
Hey Ray,
You welcome,so you guys run this through a good couple of hundred of spins and let me know what you have and then we can move on to the money train LOL.then I will show you my tweak which was formed from this method.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Here are my 2 tests.. I wasn't using past spins.. After a win or 3losses I retracked for new trigger without using past spins.. or should I use past spins?
Anyway here it is..
another 2 tests... still dont know if I should use past spins or not..
It has good hit rate, with some progression it must be prety good :)
May I ask why should this work?
Quote from: Ronjo on August 12, 2010, 03:54:10 PM
It's not the holygrail but you could call it a "money train" LOL
Either it's a holy grail or it's not, there are no "in-betweens". :P
Hey Ray,
Thanks Bud,for your participation we will wait and see who else has done some practice before we move on to the next method of play,which is a lot easier and will have a lot more plays.
@NS
Sorry to dissapoint you Bud ,this is not a "HOLYGRAIL"and you will never find it.this is steps that I started out with that led to a method that has been kind to me which I will get to,I have had some sessions from hell but have managed to know when to get out when it is hot in the kitchen.
Regards,
Ronjo.
@ronjo
Should I use past spins when looking for new bet?
Hey Ray,
Check your PM.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Quote from: Boo_Ray on August 15, 2010, 02:51:52 PM
@ronjo
Should I use past spins when looking for new bet?
I would recommend using future ones.
Quote from: NS on August 15, 2010, 04:28:26 PM
I would recommend using future ones.
That is always the best, I think. Good suggestion mate! :clapping:
Quote from: NS on August 15, 2010, 01:21:52 PM
May I ask why should this work?
Either it's a holy grail or it's not, there are no "in-betweens". :P
"The Holy Grail is a sacred object figuring into literature and certain Christian traditions, most often identified with the dish, plate, or cup used by Jesus"
:P
sorry for offtopic :)
Hello Ronjo,
Welcome back and thanks for your system. I tested your system in the B&M casino and it's holding well. I made a couple of units each session. There are a few question I have to ask you and hope you don't mind.
1) After a signal I start betting for 3 spins maximum or stop on a win. Sometime an opposite signal appears after my first or second bet. Should I continue betting till 3 spins or should I skip the bet and follow the new signal?
2)Immediately after my third losing bet an opposite signal appears. Should I bet straight away on the new opposite signal or should I wait for a couple of spins before taking on the new signal?
3)A signal occurs and I win on my first or second bet. I look back the last 7 numbers and notice the previous signal is still valid. Should I continue betting another 3 spins?
Thank you and best regards to you and your family.
sniper
good to see you back here Ronjo :-)
Thank you for your sharing.
Quote from: Boo_Ray on August 15, 2010, 02:51:52 PM
@ronjo
Should I use past spins when looking for new bet?
Hey Ray,
Always use the recent 7 spins for a signal.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Quote from: sniper on August 15, 2010, 09:58:54 PM
Hello Ronjo,
Welcome back and thanks for your system. I tested your system in the B&M casino and it's holding well. I made a couple of units each session. There are a few question I have to ask you and hope you don't mind.
1) After a signal I start betting for 3 spins maximum or stop on a win. Sometime an opposite signal appears after my first or second bet. Should I continue betting till 3 spins or should I skip the bet and follow the new signal?
Stop on a win,if you have started betting and a new signal appears,you can carry on betting and start laying chips
down on the new signal as well,or you can complete the 3 spins and then proceed with the new signal as the ball normally comes back within 7 spins.
2)Immediately after my third losing bet an opposite signal appears. Should I bet straight away on the new opposite signal or should I wait for a couple of spins before taking on the new signal?
Start betting after your third losing bet.
3)A signal occurs and I win on my first or second bet. I look back the last 7 numbers and notice the previous signal is still valid. Should I continue betting another 3 spins?
Yes continue betting as it could be a few spins before the ball moves to another sector.
Thank you and best regards to you and your family.
sniper
Sniper if you like, but experiment first on RX or on paper @ the casino you could add the "LONERS" in your group which is another six numbers which makes it 18 numbers but you will only be able to play for 2 spins flat betting.
I prefer 12 numbers because of the 2-1 payout,it's up to you.
Thanks for your positive feedback Sniper.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Here is a test using recent spins.. Now I see why you call it "money train"..
Money train coming at spin 135! All aboard! xD
Hi Ronjo,
BerlinerBruce is on the road home. He asked me to post here and say hi to you and that he is glad to see you back. He says he misses the old group of guys.
Cheers mate
Jakk
Hello Ronjo,
Thanks for your prompt reply. Just back from B&M casino, making 120 units playing a short session. After winning I moved to another table standing around and play virtual, plus 96 units. On the third table I make 72 units on virtual play. Regarding betting on 18 numbers I will test it out before I play for real. Thanks for your guidance and best regard to you and your family.
Wish you success!
sniper
Hello Ronjo,
Sorry to bother you again. I know you are still busy at this moment. I have been having minor success playing with your system the last few days. Some days I have to grind for a couple of hours to reach my 100 units target. I am thinking of using the progression you taught Lanky mate sometime back using a similar system of 12 numbers. The bet was 1,1,1,2 on a lost followed by adding the last 3 losing bet divided by 2. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks and Regards
sniper
Quote from: sniper on August 19, 2010, 11:03:37 AM
Hello Ronjo,
Sorry to bother you again. I know you are still busy at this moment. I have been having minor success playing with your system the last few days. Some days I have to grind for a couple of hours to reach my 100 units target. I am thinking of using the progression you taught Lanky mate sometime back using a similar system of 12 numbers. The bet was 1,1,1,2 on a lost followed by adding the last 3 losing bet divided by 2. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks and Regards
sniper
Hello Sniper,
That is correct what Lanky has shown you,But please do not use that strategy with real money, I just want you to test it and get some results and then compare with the final strategy.as that strategy was the basics of how I am using with the present strategy, which is a lot quicker and you will get your hundred units a lot quicker.I just wanted you to get to know the the way I bet and how I came about my present method step by step so you understand why I play this way..Just be patient with me and you will enjoy your game a lot more.I am busy with a challenge over at RSR when that is done I will get back to you guys and get you going.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Hi Ronjo;
I am looking forward to the post about your present method.
It is very good of you to share.....
Best Regards;
iggy
Hello Ronjo,
Thanks for your reply. We will all wait patiently to board the "Money Train" when it comes along.
Regards
sniper
In this challenge I won't be letting my pants down for all to see as I can't play my normal game because of the three spins and there will be piggybacking from other players as well..But I will give them a run for their money.
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Regards,
Ronjo
I wish you good luck in the challenge!
Good Luck in the challenge Ronjo.
iggy
Quote from: Ronjo on August 21, 2010, 03:02:56 AM
In this challenge I won't be letting my pants down for all to see as I can't play my normal game because of the three spins and there will be piggybacking from other players as well..But I will give them a run for their money.
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Regards,
Ronjo
'Give them a run for their money?' Hell no! You will most probably wipe the floor with us hehehehe ;D
Cheers buddy!
Jakk
Thanks Guys,you are so kind I will try my best, I don't say I will beat them,but I certainly won't lose my shirt.
after the challenge we will do some work over here together at home base.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Welcome back .
Bit random, Warrior!
Quote from: buffalowizard on October 09, 2011, 04:31:00 PM
Bit random, Warrior!
on another forum he said he was coming back.
Quote from: WARRIOR on October 09, 2011, 05:38:47 PM
on another forum he said he was coming back.
Well he did log in today..
This seemed to give good results, it would be nice to see Ronjo back
Cheers Pedro
Hello Ronjo,
It's been a long time we haven't heard from you.
Hope you are healthy and successful in your roulette challenge.
If you happened to be around, please kindly give us some pointer regarding this system of yours.
By the way, we are still waiting for the 'money train'.
Best Wishes and Regards.
Hello sniper,
How are you?sorry I have not been active on the forum.been having a few health issues,but on track again.
so watch this space i will share with you my strategy which has been good to me.but remember sometimes
the wheel can really hate you with spins from hell and you just have to know when to quit.
I will post step by step an example of over 200 spins and played 15 games in those 200 spins and had profit
with all 15 games,and maybe the rest of the guys can look at it an i could use some construtive critisism.
it will be nice to be back again discussing roulette.
Best Regards,
Ronjo.
Nice to hear again from you dear Ronjo :thumbsup:
Learning you are coming back on track made my day and surely others' day too.
P.S: I know you'll get better health-wise my wise. You're our Lion.
Cheers!
Vic
Hello Vic,
Thanks man,good to hear from you,I miss the old days with all the regular guys.
there must be a lot of new guys and ideas now,I have been using a strategy which has
been good to me an will share,an with you guys input could tweak and improve it.
Take care Vic,
Best Regards,
Ron.