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So u are playing all these days and with all these wins u have 154 $ ONLYYYYYYYYYYY? :o
I am not negative...but the thing is speaking by it self.
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300 chips?????
and u call it a winning method???
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Quote from: Jean-Claud on August 16, 2010, 12:18:26 AM
300 chips?????
and u call it a winning method???
JC,
Nobody takes you seriously anymore. Why are you still here?
loungeplayer,
If you have nothing to prove then what is all this? "Hey look at me, I'm winning! Ok believe what you want. Good luck." <-- It's stupid, and nobody cares. This screenshot business has been done in the past many times, with much higher BR's than your small one, and it's mostly system sellers that do it.
Still waiting for your reply regarding the test btw.
Oh geez, not the screenshots again...
Complete waste of bandwidth, seriously.
Hi there Lounge Player
I watch your posts closely. I respect them a lot. I think information is always good if people want to get a different perspective ( and let others see it to - not afraid they see ).
Not all people share the same line of thought, or even the same views, that´s why I think some will benefit from Kimo Li books and others not.
I read the book, and memorize the pies ( not the stars yet ) and the main movement of numbers in wheel ( Hemi, Bow-Tie and Nuke). In some way I associate them in distances from a spin to another ( to measure the gap ).
So, Lounge Player, continue to "teach" your images, comments, etc. and ( as in TV channels ) zapping is always an option, but impose limitation to others is not.
Regarding the "bankroll" I think Kimo Li in his book states a big bankroll ( more than three hundred units ), so I think it´s not a question.
The Exact Number Doctrine ( End ) is a narrower view, but not an impossible one ( I think the more numbers less spins vs the opposite explain that ).
I would like to understand more and your posts keep my mind working.
My sincere thanks.
Lounge player,
Yes please keep up the information ,we know that its over the top of many a so called expert heads here ,but many just want it all handed on a platter and do no work of there own. There is a guy using kimos strategy, in the b m, casino I play in , a I call him 3 chips cause that's all he uses most times and wow does he win .
many thanks and lets keep winning,
Cheers Pedro
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So out of 6 "pies", you can predict the 1 "pie" that will hit next; and at the SAME time, out of 6 "stars", you can predict the 1 "star" that will hit next. And to predict each of those you use statistics and the "behavior" of the pies/stars.
Wow. Such an extraordinary ability and you're still not rich?
Quote from: patricius on August 16, 2010, 07:58:18 PM
I think some will benefit from Kimo Li books
I think some will believe anything when money is involved.
What makes you think he's not?
Greedy people think of great wealth. Loungeplayer understands that you take only what you need, and offer charity, anonymously, to those who truly needs it.
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Quote from: Kimo Li on August 18, 2010, 03:34:12 AM
What makes you think he's not?
Because I know that someone with a million dollars of roulette winnings in his bank account won't be trolling this forum with screenshots of his $100 bankroll and his winnings from predicting the exact 1 or 2 numbers in some online casino.
Those who can, do.
Those who can't, preach, write books, and post screenshots.
Quote from: Kimo Li on August 18, 2010, 03:34:12 AM
Greedy people think of great wealth.
No. Greedy people worship money for the heck of it (we got some of them in here).
Successful people think of great wealth.
Good successful people think of great wealth, but not just monetary wealth, and do see beyond themselves.
Quote from: Kimo Li on August 18, 2010, 03:34:12 AM
and offer charity, anonymously, to those who truly needs it.
That is good, but I don't see the relevance here other than to make him look good (which I'm not saying he isn't).
Hi Noble,
Loungeplayer is a nice guy. I have communicated with him in the past. So the same for Kimo. I understand the frustration of looking at screenshots being posted and not understanding what's going on. This was most probably not the correct thing to do. Simply because of what had happened in previous years with guys posting screenshots and then utilizing that info trying to sell systems.
Loungeplayer is NOT a seller though. I know him personally. He is not claiming to be a GPM expert either. He is the first that will tell you that he is evolving as he goes on. As far as Kimo is concerned. I do not understand what the obsession is with guys that want to attack him. I ONLY play Kimo's methods for online purposes. So far it has treated me more than fair. Kimo is most probably the only non VB player that does not hit back at what you and I do. Have you ever seen him critisizing VB, Bias or any other method? Like Spike, Mr. J and Gizmo? I know I haven't.
I think it is better to leave the GPM crowd alone. They,and I include myself here, (although I do bother other people!) are not bothering anyone......except annoyng a couple of people with screenshots!
Cheers buddy!
Jakk
Hi Jakk,
Thank you for the clarification mate.
loungeplayer, pardon my being tough on you. I am skeptical when it comes to people claiming to beat roulette with non-scientific/physics methods, and I have been here long enough to see the truth behind all the system players, system sellers, screenshot posters, and educated guessers (who, funnily, are anything but educated) who claim to win consistently at roulette, spread ignorance, and shamelessly take money from the uninformed.
Thank you for understanding and I wish you the best. :)
Thanks Noble,
I know you just want to stand up for the guys who are scammer's bait. I know you are a stand up guy and very knowledgable about the physical aspects of the game. Respect! Thanks for understanding mate.
I still wanted to ask. Did you see the challenge is underway? I see you haven't posted a bet prediction yet. Just confirming with you that you know that it has started.
Cheers mate
Jakk
Oh, I didn't know it started. I saved the link to the thread named "New challenge" and have been following it. But I see the challenge is taking place in another thread. Thanks for telling me Jakk, I could've missed it. lol
See ya there.
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I used to play simple strategy for 4 numbers..
Just play dominant movement(H,N or B) and 2 dominant stars out of last 36 spins for 2 or 3 hits with a 25 step progression (never lost).. then retracking last 36 spins and do it again.. usualy stoping after about 2h of play because it was boring xD
Hi Boo_Ray,
Thanx for your post.
I know Twocando also plays a similar strategy as an add on to his existing strategies. It does work.
Cheers
jakk
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on August 19, 2010, 06:09:55 AM
Hi Boo_Ray,
Thanx for your post.
I know Twocando also plays a similar strategy as an add on to his existing strategies. It does work.
Cheers
jakk
Yes and it kind of makes sense :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hi Jakk and Boo_Ray
Dominant Pie and Star, this is the BANKER. Play 6 other numbers for safe bet to recover if banker lose. Almost like dominant sector with dominant EC in this sector.
Dominant sector = 10 pockets. If the dominant EC is LOW. Play then all the LOW numbers in this Dominant sector with 1 chip on each and play 1 Unit or 10 chips on HIGH, on the outside, EC bet.
Straight up pay 35/1 that will be 5 chips played and 10 chips on EC 35-14=21
EC 10 chips pay 1/1
Total played 15 chips payout is 10 - the 5 chips on the straight up numbers. = 5 profit.
In total you will bet on 18 numbers with the EC for HIGH and the 5 LOW numbers = 23 numbers.
If you just want to win with the straight up use the 5 chips profit from EC payout to increase the straight up or to add more straight up numbers ( 5 ) Then total numbers will be 28. 10 of these will be profit and 18 even out.
TCD
I test the END 11 EXACT NUMBER DOCTRINE, page 130. Diagram G68, THE ROULETTE FORMULA book of Kimo LI, in the Roulette Xtreme 2. 0. The exact number = 28. 152 spins; bankroll = 2000
It (the exact number 28) appeared in the spin 92 of 152. The lost of the total bankroll occurred at the spin148 (- 40). The highest balance 2189 units was at the spin 9 (without the exact number "28" appeared). At the spin 20 the bankroll went down below 2000 units (permanently)
The simulations of some other combinations of a Single Global Pie merged with a single Global Star produced similar results. It seems that this END system is a loser system as many other IN THE LONG RUN. Result attached.
Twocando,
Could you provide me with a link or something else to help me understand more fully what you are doing? I am very interested and am having a difficult time finding the information.
Thanks a lot,
Sam
SAM:
I don´t have a website.
What i am doing is to simulate the Exact Number Doctrine, merging each Global Pie with each Global Star, 12 numbers EACH. I´m using the Roulette Xtreme 2. 0, with 152 spins and 2000 units as a bankroll. After each run i get the summary for each ENDxy. T his END system is independent of the GPM. :thumbsup:
Exactly my point: what is the ENDxy? What is the GPM? Do I need to just buy this guy's book? Or is there another place to find the information.
Sam:
You need the book. The information isn´t available in any website. You could follow the posts in this forum but most of them regards to the European Roulette.
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Thanks.
Did you mean 4 numbers? Could you help me to understand why you say 4 numbers? Can i play only the 4 exacts numbers of the 2 pies an the 2 stars? How many betsor wagers? :blink:
hello everyone I'm new to the forum I'm studying books kimo them I wanted to ask if it was available the sheet of the array as shown in this post, sorry for my English but I am Italian thanks for the answers :biggrin:
perchè nei forum italiani non le hai trovate le matrici ? :lol:
queste sono le classiche matrici....
these are the classic matrices....
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2F15hd3s5.jpg&hash=176269f193bd53b500de6f28b529a14c908c576a)
Just for people who are studying Kimo Li's matrix, there is no Super Matrix.
It is not by him.
however, the one in the top left hand side (showing P4 P6 P8 etc..)
that one is Matrix 32 by Kimo Li.
cheers
Regarding kimo li, can anyone tell me what is the actual basis of his system? ie physics, ballistics or what? I'm familiar with some of his geometry, but I see no mention of variables that affect spin outcomes.
steve, base on my own understanding, its betting on a wheel sector base on ball movement and pass spins.