ROFL.....Ok, just so I got this straight. The guy playing (whatever game) at 1.6% might have 'better days' vs. the guy playing (whatever game) at 2.2% *BUT* in the END (long term), the HA will still f**k them both, correct? Ken
Correct
Quote from: Mr J on September 08, 2010, 08:04:08 PM
ROFL.....Ok, just so I got this straight. The guy playing (whatever game) at 1.6% might have 'better days' vs. the guy playing (whatever game) at 2.2% *BUT* in the END (long term), the HA will still f**k them both, correct? Ken
ofcourse if you aproach it the wrong way... the "mathematical way"...
Ok, lets say a guy is playing a game at 1.6% HA. He plays for 15 hours per week, for 30 years. Will he be ahead after that 30 years? Ken
Quote from: Mr J on September 11, 2010, 01:10:34 PM
Ok, lets say a guy is playing a game at 1.6% HA. He plays for 15 hours per week, for 30 years. Will he be ahead after that 30 years? Ken
If he's lucky the casino doesn't have a chance.
If he's unlucky he doesn't have a chance.
Forget luck, I'm only asking this based on the MATH ( :sarcastic:). Some of these clowns like to have it BOTH WAYS as usual. I hear, 'ha ha Ken, I play a game with a .0000001% HA. I'm better than you". BBUUTTT.... I ask those SAME guys, if you played 15 hours per week, for 30 years, will you be ahead after that 30 years? All I hear is a pin drop. I am *NOT* asking who will lose more, you or me, I did not ask that. Will you be ahead (according to the math) after 30 years? Ken
Ken,
What you're not understanding is AP players aren't playing with against a 2.67% house edge, and they aren't playing against a .000000000005% edge.
The term A.P. means advantage player.
AP players are the ones with the edge. In other words, the casino is the one that has the disadvantage. This is why they can be winning after 30 years of play.
While you and the JP types are playing as little as possible in a futile attempt to limit losses, the AP player is attempting to play for long periods of time, so that they can win as much as is possible.
I didn't add AP (cough) into the conversation because it does not exist. Dont you have some new user names to make up? Ken
Mr. J.,
Jealousy is a bitter pill to swallow.
Just because you can't do it, you attempt to convince yourself that others can't do it either. It's your lame attempt to explain your own failures. Your bitterness and jealousy of others that have been more successful than you shows in your posts.
All a naive person has to do is to read on the history of the different casino games to find evidence of the various AP players for the different games throughout history. Card counters in BJ are a good example.
The difference between JP`s method players and AP is as following:
The JP players don`t need a hanky to wipe their sweaty little hands while the AP player needs a supply of Kleenex and half a dozen fresh underwear during the course of a session. :ok:
There are HARD BETS recommended by JP for outside play ranging from $ 100 - 1,2000 maybe higher if permissible by casinos. ( Book and pages upon request )
Those are definetely two different approaches and should be classified as "to each his own" and are personal preferences and so be it.
Nathan Detroit.
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
AP worked great.......
....in 1923. :sarcastic: (Hi Keyser! Yep, either Herb, DJ, NS....boring).
Mr J,
Your guess is correct ---- 1923 , as there was no mention of AP in the 1910 book by Mr. V.B., the author of Monte Carlo Anectodes and Systems.
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Quote from: Herb6 on September 11, 2010, 04:33:26 PM
Just because you can't do it, you attempt to convince yourself that others can't do it either. It's your lame attempt to explain your own failures. Your bitterness and jealousy of others that have been more successful than you shows in your posts.
I see an obvious pot kettle black moment here. You can give advice like that but can you take your own advice? Just because you can't read randomness and take advantage of it does not mean I can't do it. One day you will be dragged kicking and screaming to the reality that opportunity is not a constant function of odds.
Sorry Gizmo,
But I don't for even one minute take you or Mr. J seriously.