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Title: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: birdhands on November 25, 2010, 09:13:36 AM
So assuming RNG is really rigged, how do we beat it anyway?  If the software forces losses by hitting unbet numbers then we can put 1 unit on all 36 numbers and 0, giving us a loss of 1 unit on each spin, and then play our system on top of that basic layout.  This way there are never any unbet numbers.
But maybe the software will still go for numbers with the fewest chips on them.  Or maybe the software forces losses after we've received a payout from the casino.  Any software gurus out there?
Really, let's talk about HOW the RNG's are rigged.  Then we can beat them anyway.
Any theories?

Sam
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Ka2 on November 25, 2010, 09:22:59 AM
Smart thinking. But it's ofcourse obvious the software doesn't look at which placeholder is covered or not. It looks at the least amount of payment. Case closed.

BTW You don't have to assume the RNG is rigged, trust me it's rigged, you can take that for granted :-)
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Pacer on November 25, 2010, 11:44:08 AM
I play Real Money RNG and I've found this works short term

hxxp: vlsroulette. com/full-systems/optimizer-six-rng-system/

One thing you must do.   About every five minutes or so clean out your cookies and Super cookies.   See below.

Download mozerella firefox,get the add on BETTER PRIVACY win so much then log out.  start the firefox go to tools then click privacy on the drop down.  a box will come up click on remove all lso,s then close. 
this removes all flash cookies rendering a new betting pattern session on the rng software like you just started again. 

Cheers!  8)
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Ka2 on November 25, 2010, 12:00:04 PM
No offense but this doesnt help? The casino just looks at your account. X amount in yields Y amount out...
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: birdhands on November 25, 2010, 12:43:05 PM
Ka2,
   Are you suggesting that you know for a fact that RNG is rigged; or are you just convinced?


So you think the software reads the profit and adjusts the program to force a loss greater than the profit?

Pacer,
     Thanks for your suggestion; I'll look into it.  How many spins do you feel safe playing on the RNG?

All the best,
Sam
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Pacer on November 25, 2010, 05:51:06 PM
Well, with that particular system, I would suggest 6 spins to get to the trigger, then 3 spins to follow through, so I would say 9 spins, then clean cookies, restart or end session.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: birdhands on November 26, 2010, 10:29:42 AM
What particular system are you referring to?  And what trigger?

Sam
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Pacer on November 26, 2010, 02:01:42 PM
Third reply from the top of this thread.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: birdhands on November 26, 2010, 11:04:16 PM
Oh, got it.

So you make 3 units then reset.  Sounds pretty slow, but hey, if it works...

Or maybe you mean just clean the cookies, play another 9 spins, clean cookies, 9 spins, etc..

So why does this work?  Why doesn't the RNG just hit the two unbet numbers?

Sam
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: cheEsteban on November 26, 2010, 11:54:34 PM
Hmmm, could be.  But also the casino can be tracking your clicks so they would have that data in their servers and detect patterns, or whatever there. . . .  Also, like someone said, it could be easier just to use the account balance as a trigger. . . .

but all is just speculation until someone tries it and can prove someting. . . .  like average and variance of payouts under similar situations and gameplay.  then just look at statistically significant differences to prove your point. . . .

best o luck. . .
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Pacer on November 27, 2010, 12:10:30 AM
@Birdhands: Make 3 units, clean cookies, reset make 3 units, repeat..

Don't get me wrong.   After about $10-$15 dollars profit it would be time to stop the session for at least 90 minutes.
From my experience.  The RNG rarely, but does hit the two unbet numbers---more the reason to stop frequently and clean the cookies & Super cookies (which supposedly stores your betting patterns).

One more hint: always cover streets 4,5,6 and 22,23,24 on Realtime Gaming software if you cover all except two numbers.  
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: birdhands on November 27, 2010, 01:05:28 AM
I don't get it- RTG hits those streets more often?  What if the 2 numbers you aren't covering are 4 and 6?  This is really how you play?
I still want to know how it works.

Sam
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Pacer on November 27, 2010, 06:07:10 AM
If the trigger involves 4,5,6 or 22,23,24 I would skip to the next trigger.  For some reason leaving those uncovered will hurt you.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: VLS on December 02, 2010, 08:30:59 AM
Hi mates,

You may want to read the thread: *DOCUMENTED* PROOF OF CHEATING RNG SOFTWARE (nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/online-gaming/*documented*-proof-of-cheating-rng-software/)

As you can read, if the software is actually rigged, it accounts for overall results, not individual bettors and their particular patterns.

Regards.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: darrynf on January 17, 2011, 05:52:09 AM
i would agree that some casinos would cheat but i dont believe all casinos cheat, im sure all casinos have some typ of back up but then again you always hear of players playing for years and come out with good money, thats proberly more to do with land base casinos.

i have wonder this my self and have herd if you start to win to much money bots will come out and work out your pattern, im guessing casinos cant look at every one or keep an eye on every one so im guessing they would keep an eye on the players that are making big money.

just my thought, nobody really knows except the owners and staff, i dont think its fair to say every casino cheats but i would think every casino would have some plan if you were winning to much.

since only a handful of people win compared to the people that lose, i dout they would worry about couple of hundred aday. then again who really knows
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: schoenpoetser on January 17, 2011, 10:47:47 AM
I have tested several software of the internet casinos.I did it with very simply statistic methods.The results point out on manipulation but for a proof are the samples too small.If you understand the manipulation you can use it in your benefit.
I play very successful on internet.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: birdhands on January 17, 2011, 10:50:26 AM
Quote from: darrynf on January 17, 2011, 05:52:09 AM

since only a handful of people win compared to the people that lose, I dout they would worry about couple of hundred aday. then again who really knows

Only a couple hundred a day?  That's nearly 73k a year.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: darrynf on January 17, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
when they are making a thousand a day, i douy they waiste to much time on the small change, anyway thats just my opion.

I dont know what they do but what ever it is they are winning more then we are winning.

I think people will assum that RNG is rigg cause they lose but even if its true random it still would be hard to beat, everyone losses, i have lost bets but i always make my money back and one day that might change but i will never lose it all cause the casino cant take what isnt there
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: col1879 on January 30, 2011, 09:54:43 PM
Here's this MATRIX 50 again! I hope you post it up in the forum.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: John Gold on January 30, 2011, 10:24:21 PM
What amazes me is some authors of systems who claim their method 'tricks' the RNG.
Examples include 'forcing the zero' etc. It's a clever marketing ploy really. It's like they are saying 'we know RNG is crooked, but we have cracked the code'

Can you imagine a big corporation like Playtech allowing someone to trick them. I can just see it now.

''charlie, come and have a look at this, this guy is killing us. We never put in the countermeasures for the reverse mongoose 3 step parlay labouche super duper system''

''shit mate, that's our jobs up the kyber''   ;D

It is a simple matter of whatever number you leave out on the layout. BINGO! That's the next result. That's all they have to do if they wanted to. I am not sure if they do or not. For that reason alone, it is enough to NEVER EVER go near any RNG roulette game.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: col1879 on February 02, 2011, 04:19:52 PM
***** I have seen the ball land on  Number 36 three times in  A ROW while.    A Player had.    1--35 covered.    Go figure.  .  .**********

That's nothing, one time (in play mode) I covered every number except 2 and lost, changed to a different 2 not covered and lost, changed to a different 2 not covered and lost, changed to a different 2 not covered and lost, changed to a different 2 not covered and lost, then gave up! lol
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Nahid on June 16, 2014, 05:41:56 PM
Hello all,

just wanted to add some of the thing I noticed during playing online roulette. I was playing a new strategy which went ok for a while. this strategy will cover 30 numbers from the 36 and it will profit 1 $. it is a good one and I used it for some time and it went ok. I was playing the same strategy on mansion casino. and it went ok for a short time. what happen next is odd. the 6 numbers which is not covered kept coming on and on. I tried to skip random spins without bidding the numbers don't com up as soon as I put the bet it comes back to the same 6 numbers and make me loos. I tried to maneuver by skipping different number of spins and then put by bets again. the same story happens. I know that there are people out there will say that the casino software is random and the software will not detect were you are placing your bets...etc. but let me tell you something this is totally wrong. the software is rigged and after a while it will bet against your bets ,you like it or not. and let us stop fooling our selves that we can make money out of the RNG . it will not happen. I am positively sure that there is some sort of a software hidden in the casino software that analyze your bets or even detect the numbers your are betting on and bet against you. if this is not the case why after a while the RNG will leave all the 30 numbers of the roulette wheel and keep hitting the 6 which you are betting on. if it is a truly RNG ,the odds of this happening is less. the other odd thing happened is when I lost all my bankroll suddenly one of the casino representatives opened a window chat to offer his help if I need any thing. as he was monitoring my play. this happened several times in different casinos. to summarize the above is after playing for long time and lost a lot  believe me all that there is nothing called honest online casinos they will rip you off if you are an armature or professional player. i do not any one to tell me about the casino ADGE. THE ADGE IS BECAUSE OF THE ZERO SO THE casino has the advantage. what i am talking here about is something different , I am talking a bout cheating the players by turning the software against them. I know some of you will disagree with me on this point .it does not matter. what matters is do not convince your self that you are playing a fair game with the online roulette.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 16, 2014, 10:13:43 PM
Nahid - The thread says "How To beat a Rigged RNG". It can't be beaten as you strongly point out. The only way to not be beaten by RNG is not to play it.

RNG is not real roulette. RNG in fact could be played without the video display. They could just have a simple numbers display & the results would not be any different. The video display & sounds are put there to make you THINK & FEEL it's real.

Just like RNG slot/poker machines, RNG card & dice type games they are legally allowed to "CHEAT" the players out of their money as they are in the same family of video games = EGM's (Electronic Gaming Machines). Even air/auto wheels are RNG EGM's & are legally allowed to cheat. Cammergh makes a lot of different wheels for casino's. Their web site reveals that their airball wheels have speed control & air jet holes in the ball track. They then state they can land the ball on the opposite side of the wheel, 30% away or anywhere else they like.

All these regulations are set out in most gaming regulators complex gaming rules.

Have a look at a thread on here - Documented Proof of Cheating RNG. Main Roulette Board, page 12, October 2010. So everything you & col1879 & others have written about has been well known for over 3 1/2 years.

The big carrot with RNG is the much lower minimum bets than live dealer play. Like 10 cents vs 50 cents or $1 for live dealer.

What's better to play RNG & lose your money most of the time or wait & save up a bigger BR (bank roll) & only play the real wheel live dealer ? Either on line or at a real chip casino. At least a player has a better chance of beating a true random spun wheel.

Also the house edge is not only because of the zero(s) but that the payouts are at only 35 : 1 on both a 37 & 38 number game. Every number including zero(s) has an equal chance of spinning up. As always only 1 number wins & the other 36 or 37 lose in straight up betting terms.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: daveylibra on June 17, 2014, 05:05:32 PM
Hey guys -

Interested in the post about rigged airball wheels. Are we talking about the ones used by the likes of Supercasino?
Two points-

If they can indeed rig the result of spins, on these wheels there are quite a few players playing the wheel at once, so do we assume that they undermine the most successful player, the one they think has a good system?

If they can do this with automatic airball, then they can surely do this with live dealer, since if every number division has an airjet, the result can be rigged easily. If so, we are completely doomed!

Any thoughts...?
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 18, 2014, 12:01:11 AM
davey - The technology is there to "rig" a live wheel but they can't because gaming authorities check these things or at least at most casinos ? They even have wheels available that work off a push of a button with nil dealer spinning the ball by hand.

Have you gone to the Cammergh.com site ? If not spend a little time there & check out their product range, particularly their 360 RRS (random rotor speed) model.  Also the demo video tells enough to scare a player off these games. In the past year or so they've edited down the info they used to have but I think there's still enough there to get the full picture.

Most UK based casinos use Cammergh wheels (& world wide too). Supercasino ? You'd have to compare what's there with what Cammergh has.

Smart Live has Cammergh airball.

RNG animated roulette & RNG airball all work the same way. Yes they undermine the gross amounts played. They may not neccesarily ping a large bet, other players may think if that player has won a large bet then how can the wheel be rigged ? If you stay at that wheel long enough you'll see a lot of new players come, lose & go. The occassional winner is all part of the game as some players have to win to meet the % payout rules. Remember RNG = EGM (electronic Gaming Machines). Real live dealer wheels are true RNG's & not EGM's that's the difference. EGM's are legally allowed to "cheat" the player.

Always remember these EGM games may look like real roulette but they aren't all that different (casino profit wise) to slots/poker/fruit machines (the 'ol 1 armed bandits).

To put a spin on that old saying "walks like a duck, quacks like a duck" but it actually hee haws like a mule.

Casino's rarely advertise on the actual game (apart from the various table limits), if at all, the class of machine they are presenting & the odds advantage they have against the player.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: nottophammer on June 18, 2014, 06:23:19 AM
Quote from: darrynf on January 17, 2011, 05:52:09 AM




just my thought, nobody really knows except the owners and staff, i dont think its fair to say every casino cheats but i would think every casino would have some plan if you were winning to much.


do you think staff have to sign agreement not to discuss rng. 
do any members know any casino staff, if do, why not ask them.
At least seven years ago read a system on dozens, the gist of it was the person said they were an ex employee of a casino, where they were a programmer, so guess they can program you to lose
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 18, 2014, 11:18:54 AM
hammer - I don't believe casino's have game programmers because the games they buy, as with slots/pokers machines, air/auto wheels, RNG games = roulette, cards, dice etc. already come preprogrammed by the relevent game maker. It's the manufacturers that have the game programmers & game developers & make all the hardware, screens & graphics etc. Certainly a game maker can custom program any need of a casino.
All that casino's do is buy new equipment, set it up, switch it on & present it to the player with the certainty that they'll (venue) start to profit from that point on.

Cammergh is a good example where they develop & manufacture roulette wheels, tables & accessories. As well they have the marquees & linked computer game monitoring including spin by spin analysis of betting & earnings. They can also analyse all live dealers & "council" them if their spins are too predictable. My observations are that most dealers these days mix up their ball & wheel speeds a lot more. Also to add to the variables the dealers are changed often especially on line ones, most every 1/2 hour.

Sure casino's have IT guys but they mainly maintain their computer network that links all the games & operations. For them it's all a statistics, profit & loss world.

All the electronic games have adjustability including % returns. That's about all they need to do, apart from trouble shooting faults.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: CryptoLogic on June 24, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
If rng ruolette is rigged, how can I then make over 3000Euro in one month playing in play tech casinos. Did I brake roulette code? B-)
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 24, 2014, 06:48:41 PM
Crypto - Right play at right place at right time = wins. As I've previously said not every player loses just the majority.

You don't detail your bet MO but 3k can be 200 Euro average win x 15 days. As you say CASINOS then hit & run at a few seems to be the answer for you.

Good luck for next month & the months after that.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: CryptoLogic on June 25, 2014, 06:11:01 AM
Playing in five casinos, starting with 1000e when reach 1500e I withdraw 500e. Just to not be detected, I only take 500 in month of each casino :)
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 25, 2014, 11:29:26 AM
Crypto - Strange how in one post you say you are making OVER 3,000 Euro per month then in your last post you now say you're making 5 x 500 = 2,500 Euro per month ?  Consistancy & truth go hand in hand.

How is it that you are consistantly successful playing RNG when most others on the forums can never continually win ? This includes myself where I gave up playing RNG 4 years ago because of the constant losing sessions ?

As to the not being detected thing ? All withdrawals are checked prior to release. Every casino has a record of every bet you make. If they see you are consistantly making winning withdraws month after month they'll take counter measures to stop you. As in their T & C's where they reserve the right to restrict the games you play or even close your account ? Plus they have no obligation to give a reason for any decision.

I've read that this has happened in the past to some forum members.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: CryptoLogic on June 25, 2014, 07:19:02 PM
Yes, how it is possible to consistantly defeat rigged RNG. Many players can win playing roulette but can not defeat this thing, that is because you do not see a pattern inside this game. I know the place on web where you can find your answer, if you want I will sent you pm and maybe change your life, but no one will tell you how to play, what system, strategy...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 25, 2014, 08:12:57 PM
Crypto - OK PM me & maybe change my life.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: daveylibra on June 26, 2014, 04:19:39 PM
Crypto - Why not just profit on live roulette,  if "many people can" as you say, and not bother with these RNG machines.  We all agree they can easily be set up to cheat us.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 27, 2014, 12:29:27 AM
OK got the PM & it relates to a site(s) with the not so nice title ROULETTERAPED (RR). Links have stuff for sale in the $4 - $11 range but you have buy the stuff to see what's in it.

A SEARCH on both here & CC on RR has some postings on it going back 3 - 4 years. Generally forum opinion on the RR information is that it offers little practical play value ?

So here I sit & my life is still the same (all is good).

As to defeating rigged RNG ? Me thinks I smell "pork pie" (pp) here. ***    Anything involving "RIGGING", be it dodgy elections or casino games ALWAYS results in only 1 outcome = SUCCESS for the "RIGGER".


*** (to decode > google slang pp).
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: CryptoLogic on June 27, 2014, 06:22:47 AM
Answer to daveylibra- but why to bother with live roulette? Bicause it is always the same rng or live. :)
Answer to ausguy- I have copy from that site, but can not find, first time I visit rouletteraped.com was before one year, but then it was very large essey to reed and it looks like bunch of nonsense. After six month when I lost hundreds $ ask my self, why some old man will write this nonsense. Then come back and reed again, and discovered that this old man was damn right, he was from Ausralia, maybe he die and domain expired. Now I need to check thousands of my files to find his essey and to hope it is not buried with him, when do that I will tell people on this forum, stupid of me to lost unique document. :(
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 27, 2014, 02:42:13 PM
Crypto - A forum member had a copy of this document & sent me a copy. The author mentions he plays in the casino in Sydney, Australia. It's the only casino in the state, NSW = New South Wales. There are other casinos but a long way from Sydney. Drive South for 3 -4 hours & you get to 1 in our National capital, Canberra.
Drive another 5 - 6 hours South & you'll get to the Crown Casino in Melbourne, Victoria State. To the North drive from Sydney for about 12 hours & you'll get to Jupiters Casino on the Gold Coast in Queensland State. Melbourne to The Gold Coast is about 1,200 miles (2,000km).

I mention this because the author gives the impression that there is a lot of casino choice from being based here in Sydney ? When in fact there isn't any choice at all (either one or non LOL), unless you have plenty of time & money & like driving long distances (vehicle & accomodation costs) or fly ?

As it so happens I live in Metro Sydney, so I also know The Star Casino Sydney (formally Star City) quite well having played there a lot.

The author talks a lot (36 pages) but gives next to nil detail on how he plays roulette to win ? Two things he mentions is 1. That he plays the live dealer wheel. No mention of RNG Crypto ? & 2. Not to play the game continuosly but only spasmodically (bet then miss spins bet then miss spins) ?

Your reference to this "LARGE ESSAY - MAYBE CHANGING MY LIFE" just doesn't add up, especially how it helps you "always" win at RNG roulette ?  As I've already said what I think of all this stuff in my recent post #34, I'll leave things at that & just one question Crypto, do you understand all my stuff about PORK PIES ?
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: CryptoLogic on June 27, 2014, 03:51:08 PM
I dont understand, it is strange word for me, can you explain, sent me pm.
p.s. I do not need to beat rng every turn.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 27, 2014, 04:59:18 PM
Strange word ? - See my reference down the bottom on post #34 to check it on google - it's all on there on google.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: CryptoLogic on June 28, 2014, 12:07:27 PM
I am Croatian and not understand Australian slang forgive me. Now I know (pork pie=lie) the old man will say " if this is pp then you are right" I want to thank you for support my china plate or should I say my mate, it is time to stop this rabbit pork, thanks again  :)
Also big thanks to other friend Bruce for the doc.file, if someone want to download go here nolinks://exoshare.com/download.php?uid=0DXP3EOP (nolinks://exoshare.com/download.php?uid=0DXP3EOP)
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 28, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
Crypto - The slang is from England, London East end actually, about 170 years ago. There, Cockney people (street cart vendors) had Rhyming slang.

Try this one from a Cockney pie cart vendor, "Two dogs eyes with dead horse". Translation - Dogs eye = pie. Dead horse = sauce (usually tomato) so "2 dogs eyes with dead horse" actually means 2 meat pies with tomato sauce. Another is " Cheese & Kisses" = Misses = Wife. There's hundreds of sayings, in fact there's c**kney on line dictionaries, I was just looking at a few 1/2 hour ago.

Australia at that time (1840) was a British Colony where they brought out convicts in chains via sailing ships. Over many decades about 175,000 UK criminals were transported to Australia.
People got jailed if they stole even a loaf of bread. There jails were too full then so the Upper class peoples solution was to transport them to the other side of the world. Even today the jails are still there in Tasmania & Norfolk Island (off the OZ East coast). Tourists visit them a lot.

Modern Australia having English origins just knows & uses some English customs. Not so much these days with migration of people from all over the world, even Croations who sometimes caused trouble at local soccer matches. I've met a few of your countrymen on building sites who used to bring in home made GRAPPA. WOW so potent that can be set on fire & maybe run a car ?

If you visited London & the cops grabbed you (for example, bringing in too many bottles of GRAPPA). They might say "where ya from Crypto" you lie & answer "Spain" the cop then says "Crypto 'ol son, me thinks you're telling us Porkies (porkies = pork pie = lie) you don't look Spanish to me" ?
Now 1 more time Crypto "where's ya from" ? as the spotlight burns your eyes, "OK coppa you got me, no more porkies, I'm from Croatia".
The cop then says "that's better Crypto & 1 more thing I read ya' written' on VLS & ya rabbit pork thing, it's rabbit & pork (talk),get it right 'ol son or ya' gunna' be doin' some serious time in our ol' stone house (jail)."               
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: xman1970 on June 28, 2014, 01:52:23 PM
a bit of modern slang for you.....

I haven't got a Scooby Doo..... = F**kin Clue  8)
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: ausguy on June 28, 2014, 04:21:35 PM
Yeah Xman - This is pure fiction but could also be true ? "I just got off the dog & bone to me mate who said lets go out tonight as the ferrets needs a run. So I jumped in the Billy Bower for an SSS put on a Bag Of Fruit then headed out to the Hole In The Wall to stock up the Ol' Skyrocket with a few Monkey's.
I then link up with said friend & put on the Nose Bag then we're off to the big C house to try our luck on the Wheel of Fortune. Plenty of Bimbo's, fun & Moola maybe ? I must remember to get some Ferret Raincoats as last time I got the deaded Hong Kong Dong & the quacks needles into the Ol' ferret still give me the Jimmy Brits."

translations - dog & bone = phone. ferrets need a run = ferrets are weasel like animals that go down rabbit holes to get rabbits = human male libido hunting female conquest. Billy Bower = Bathroom/Shower. SSS = shi*/cra*, Shave & Shampoo. Bag Of Fruit = suit. Hole In The Wall = ATM. Skyrocket = pocket. Monkey = 500 quid (GBP) . Nose Bag = feed bag for horse (used by street vendors on their rounds) = Dinner. C house = casino. Wheel Of fortune = live dealer roulette wheel. Bimbo (now well known world wide) = sexy attractive young woman with not many smarts. Moola = Money.
Ferret Raincoats = Condoms. Hong Kong Dong = STD (sexual infection of the dong [penis]). A generalization of infection risks in Asia. quack = doctor (in earlier times cheap unqualified doctors often caused infection or death). Over time all doctors good or bad are now called quacks. 'ol ferret (penis).
Jimmy Brits = shi*s = extremley annoyed.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: xman1970 on June 28, 2014, 05:27:30 PM
Quote from: ausguy on June 28, 2014, 04:21:35 PM
Yeah Xman - This is pure fiction but could also be true ? "I just got off the dog & bone to me mate who said lets go out tonight as the ferrets needs a run. So I jumped in the Billy Bower for an SSS put on a Bag Of Fruit then headed out to the Hole In The Wall to stock up the Ol' Skyrocket with a few Monkey's.
I then link up with said friend & put on the Nose Bag then we're off to the big C house to try our luck on the Wheel of Fortune. Plenty of Bimbo's, fun & Moola maybe ? I must remember to get some Ferret Raincoats as last time I got the deaded Hong Kong Dong & the quacks needles into the Ol' ferret still give me the Jimmy Brits."

Exactly !!!! done in it's purest form is it a nightmare to understand  :(

& that's coming from somebody FROM the Uk  ;)
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Benji on January 29, 2015, 11:04:48 PM
Now the flipside of the argument. Regardless that I went on to lose all the money I made in roulette on a big rollercoaster I would like to state here that I made 900 GBP in just two hours of gameplay at a local bookmakers. In just two hours. If you are a master these kinds of events are possible. The way I did it? Just analyzing the number history and balls of steel!

My feeling is that many players get addicted to the highs they experience when winning and try to replicate monumental wins again and again when instead they could be getting the same rush from extreme sports.

It's not the game they're addicted to it's the feeling of being a winner and having that money in your hand and taking it home and feeling great. So because players always want to come out tops they keep playing on for years and years just in case they might get lucky and get the money in there hands to feel that they succeeded. But when the house reverses it on them by keeping them playing and playing they become furious like I did.

My wife actually divorced me over gambling so I know how much it sucks to lose. I loved her we were happy.
The game tore me apart and all my dreams came crashing down, which was basically the American Dream. We all envy the ones that Drive the best cars and own the biggest mansions. Everyone does and that's what they thrive on.

The Casino bosses couldn't possibly be happier when house ops bring them the world and then they're cruising off on
it in luxury yachts. It's a kind of sickness very few people truly understand. Even when my sex life was on another level,
ie. out of this world I couldn't help but envy them despite what I had: A beautiful, dedicated and loving wife from age
24 for 5 years. We were poor. How much I regret my crazy adventures now.

Humans are a strange breed. It's a sickness. Be content with what you have and you will receive more and God will bless you. It's in the bible. Just all keep believing no matter what your troubles. Things can turn around, you just have to be smart!

My peeps are having trouble with me for what I lost and I can genuinely say I had no idea what I was in. I am a compulsive one. My life crashed and I found myself in rehab. God if only I never would have started and maxed out
my credit cards.

Problem is money is addictive, when you have it you want it in larger volumes.

I am sorry to my ex. wife for being out of control I honestly should have practiced greater self-discipline.

My last loss last summer was after playing on from 750 USD. God that was a lot of money I should have walked out when
I had it. When I dream it replays in my mind and for a long time I was devastated by my wife divorcing me, but I have hope and I still have my dream that within a few years I will have made it big time. Problem is I'm not 20 anymore but
nevermind I'm still young. I guess that life is a teacher. Call me an Idealist if you will.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Derp on March 11, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
Danish online casinos has to apply for a real casino license... Sites like Betsafe and betfair has been approved and as a person who has played almost 30k spins real money on betsafe.dk i can tell you im not scared if they are rigged because if they are it must be the worst rigged software in history lol
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: rourkem on May 24, 2015, 11:39:16 PM
Good point right there. Somehow, I still now that there's still a way though to beat those.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: RippleRatt on June 17, 2018, 01:18:00 PM
I'm working on how to use the other players to trigger a counter measure then bet with the countermeasure.

Ex, some will bet green heavily or specific numbers only causing machine to avoid those for a long time,. Once they leave the machine will hit those numbers right away and depending how long it was avoiding will continue hitting them till the std Dev stats flatten out again. 
Knowing this I can bet those numbers n win.  Problem is I have to stay below their bet amount. 

Another is when they bet all in a dozen area,. It let's them win for a while then triggers countermeasure, you can tell exactally when it starts, so bet what they are not. But again, for less money.

I also aggree with the hit n run concept . Go in wait till u like the pattern, bet high first spin, lower bet each time after cause odds go up that pattern will stop with each next spin.   Double or triple your seed in 5 to 10 spins, cash out n go next casino before they notice or react. 

Face recognition us used for security but not sure if it's tied in with gaming. 

If you have a pattern bet it will remember it and react to it .   So play dumb then when time is right bet pattern.  But now pattern will trigger counter measure.

I too can trigger countermeasure on demand,. Try this:
1.5 coins on red. 1 coin on col 1 n col 2.
That leaves 6 not covrred 4 black in col 3 n 2 green .  But it pisses the machine off and no matter how much you bet it will hit unbet numbers, provided it was late nite n not been played for a while.   I tried second station to bet those 6 heavely but it took lesser of two evils.

Food for thought.
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: kbp999 on August 24, 2018, 12:05:44 PM
Hi Guys I'm new here but not to playing roulette....been playing for ten yrs now....there is a way of beating the RNG
Just want your input on one thing here first....how easy would you say it is to take a £1 from the casino playing on RNG ??..... Kevin
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Roulette-Boss-Chick on September 07, 2018, 08:17:43 AM
Hello guys, I was reading your conversations about RNG and noticed that some great Roulette players here actually believes that the Electronics air brush roulette have RNGs while the dealer wheel roulette do not and are preaching that the dealer roulette are safer to play. I am here to challenge that notion and announce to you that both roulettes have RNGs. I know this from my years of data collecting before playing. I prefer playing the electronics roulette but before I play I always collect the past play data of all the other 4 dealer machines including that of  the electronics one I intend to play on and analyze all to sieve out the affinities of these numbers to themselves for the moment. I don´t ever play roulette without doing that, it gives me the confidence to bet high on some numbers and helps me a great deal in my predicatability.  Years of data collection has taught me a lot, it is that same number affinities going on in the electronics machine that goes on in the dealer wheel machine. Infact there was a day I was standing by a dealer wheel machine and saw a string of six numbers that played together at the electronics machine like 7 minutes ago expressing themselves together in the dealer wheel machine. I was blown away. These and more evidences abound. I have some data I can screen grab and show who wants to see. It is the same RNG generator these two types of machines are using, trust me.  :good:
Title: Re: How to beat a rigged RNG
Post by: Roulette-Boss-Chick on September 07, 2018, 08:56:44 AM
I have this other casino I go to that equally have the television roulette that has virtual on-the-screen wheel. As soon as I am walking into their door, I am data-grabbing any roulette data in that room knowing already that they are all coming from a central unit in the casino and that if 33,8,0 partners are flaring for that day that you will see them flowing together and connecting whether on the dealer wheel machine, electronics wheel machine or the on-the screen virtual wheel roulette. And that is how I grab and mark down my numbers when playing. Nobody uses daily/seasonal number affinities like I do. It is the closest thing, the closest estimation to the holy grail you all seek. My only problem is money management and stubbornness that makes it hard for me to break away when I´m losing. I am working to overcome that, if you remove that from the equation....I am the Roulette Boss Chick especially that moment I am done analyzing the number affinities and pattern from the collected data.....I am killing them numbers, you know. Yeah, I am good like that yet Roulette has a way of humbling us all. Only fools make boast on it.  :D :give_rose: :give_heart: The dealer wheel roulette, Electronics wheel roulette, virtual on-the-screen wheel roulette are all using RNGs. I am wishing that these great noble members of this forum that have been in this thread in the past can return for us to look into what I am saying here. Playing the dealer wheel roulette does not protect you from the adjustability and other control measures the casinos use on the roulette machines sometimes to prevent customers from winning too much and putting them out of business.