hello
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HELLO MAHER
YOU SELL A METHOD WHICH WIN IN LONG TERM AND YOU SELL IT 25 DOLLARS?
DO YOU SAY THAT IT IS THE HOLLY GRAIL?
Maher,
Well I have to admit that your website is not as arrogant as most, but there is still the question of why you and your brother would sell your method for pennies when you could keep it secret and make millions. Is there a money back guarantee? I would try it with a guarantee. Please understand that we are all quite skeptical here, and with good reason.
Sam
Sam
I understand your skepticism , and you should be skeptical because if there is a 100% safe method all the casinos should be closed or should change betting rules.
My method is wining in following sense:
the method is designed for aplication on duzens. If you tray to vin on duzen, probability is 33%, let say 32% because of zero. So, it is reasonable to expect that after a reasonable period of time the dozen which you chose is winning in 32%(you put 100 bets and you won 32 times) of cases and that according to this you lost in 78% of cases. When this state is reach you win money. If you are lucky and your dozen is wining more than 32% you will be reach.
In this method you don't need to bet always on same dozen, you can change dozens in every bet if you want. You just need to choose wining dozen in at least 31% of cases.
Mathematically You should choose the wining dozen 33%.
Abaut the amount of money you can earn:
we put casino in our position, how to do this. Let assume casino has 200$ and you can not take more than that from casino in one session. Usually when I play I tray to take from casino 30% of these amount and then I stop curent session and start new session. If you want you can assume that casino has bigger or smaller amount of money, it is up to you.
Your current bet is calculated according to casino account balance, we mathematically proved and derived formula for bet calculations.
I earn money with this method, but for earning you should be patient
WBR
Matija
SO YOU WIN IN LONG TERM OR NOT?
Quote from: maher link=topic=17548. msg125270#msg125270 date=1294244239
. . . . . . . . . . So, it is reasonable to expect that after a reasonable period of time the dozen which you chose is winning in 32%(you put 100 bets and you won 32 times) of cases and that according to this you lost in 78% of cases. . . . . . . .
It looks like your maths works differently from mine: 32% + 78% = 110% ;D If you are really a professional you wouldn't make this misstake. My 8 years old son wouldn't anyway.
Robert
Fasten your seat belts. The SCAMMING math uncles are on the lose. :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: Your money :skull:
Quote from: robert link=topic=17548. msg125279#msg125279 date=1294260821
It looks like your maths works differently from mine: 32% + 78% = 110% ;D If you are really a professional you wouldn't make this misstake. My 8 years old son wouldn't anyway.
Robert
sorry, my bed!
Quote from: olinet link=topic=17548. msg125277#msg125277 date=1294251448
SO YOU WIN IN LONG TERM OR NOT?
Of course, I win in long term.
in long term You get closer to percentages I mentioned above.
If this percentage is reached after a 20 spins You earn money in 20 min, if after 100 spins You earn after 2 hours.
You just have to be patient and reach these percentage.
Quote from: maher on January 06, 2011, 06:00:17 AM
Of course, I win in long term.
in long term You get closer to percentages I mentioned above.
If this percentage is reached after a 20 spins You earn money in 20 min, if after 100 spins You earn after 2 hours.
You just have to be patient and reach these percentage.
And will you tell us your system ?
Or we have to spend 25.00$ for the almight Holy Grail?
Don't understand me wrong, but after so many years I saw too many guys claming the same as you.
Now tell me, if you have the holy grail why are you seeling it for 25.00$?
Afonso
My question exactly. And what about the money-back guarantee?
hallo
I'll put the money-back guarantee on my web page as sun as posible.
You have scietific paper there for free, in it the method is compleatly explaned!
And there is also the proof that it works.
Glad to hear about the guarantee.
I'll be the first to admit that the mathematical paper is completely beyond me.
Tell you what, put the guarantee on there, I'll test it out, and if it really works I'll sing your praises on every forum.
I have bought the system. It may be a mistake, but 25$ isnt a great loss.
I have just downloaded it. Studying it...
I tell you soon my first results (if I can understand it).
Greetings.
JavierTT
I have seen the video. Its very easy to understand. I have doubts about it goes good or not. I think you must have a good bankroll to support a bad streak of luck.
Lets see. I begin to test.
:scratch_ones_head:
:clapping:
Thank you iggiv.
First test.
Goal session for all test: 50 chips. Author can say if I am wrong or not.
Results: +53. Min session: -209 chips. Spins: 142.
It was a difficult session. I know. I wanted a difficult session.
In that session I won chips (NOT 53, LESS THAN 53) when my dozen was about 31 %.
Ill get the 53 chips WHEN the percentaje WAS 33 % aprox.
I expect everybody understand I write. Sorry for my english. Its my second language. You must ask the question you want.
Greetings.
JavierTT.
Test 2.
Result: +54. Min session: -8 chips. Spins: 17. Percentage: 47 %. Easy.
Test 3.
Result: +53. Min session: -75 chips. Spins: 47. Percentage: 37 %. Easy too.
I began to make money on 31.25 % (+6 chips).
The next session will be really difficult. Youll see. Ill choose it.
Test 4.
Result: +58. Min session: -202 chips. Spins: 88. Percentage: 34 %. Not to bad after all.
I began to make money on 31.58 % (+11 chips).
;)
go on bud. Nice.
is it applicable only for dozen or u can use it for single number groups as well? Does he explain the details how to get the formula working for different conditions?
thank u!
Test 5.
Result: +53. Min session: -8 chips. Spins: 7. Percentage: 100 %. :blink: Two zeros on 7 spins :biggrin:.
i am all ears
Hello iggiv.
I think its very difficult to use on group numbers except you use a high value chip or can divide the value between 12 numbers.
You can apply obviusly on columns the same way.
does it need calculator or something? can be played in land casino? u got time to place bet?
placing each bet on numbers is OK. but can u adjust it for 6 numbers?
Test 6.
Result: +56. Min session: -85 chips. Spins: 49. Percentage: 37 %.
On 31.43 % I won +7 chips.
On 32.56 % I won +20 chips
Iggiv.
You need calculator, obviously. But with practice, I think you could bet without a calc.
It can be played in land casino, with no problem.
You need a little bit time to calc . You can bet without problems.
I think the main problem is when % from your dozen is too low. Then you can suffer.
Adjust for 6 numbers? I dont know how. I must think about it and its too late to think now. :girl_wacko:
Test 7.
Result: +55. Min session: 0 chips. Spins: 7. Percentage: 71 %.
thanx a lot man. But land casinos don't let u use calculators i think
Test 8.
Result: +54. Min session: -70 chips. Spins: 92. Percentage: 36.71 %.
I want to comment two circunstances in this test:
- When i was on 33.33 % the results were +5 with THREE 0 on 45 numbers.
- Later I was again on 33.33 % and the results were +16 with FIVE 0 on 80 numbers.
Not bad, dont you think?
unbelievable. if it is true
Dont you have a calculator on you mobile phone?
you can calc too with a pen and paper. The calc is very easy. (for me, I think). :scratch_ones_head:
I think Ill find sessions where I ll suffer like a street dog.
But if your bankroll is 500 or 1.000 chips I think you can resist a lot.
Test 9.
Result: +57. Min session: -40 chips. Spins: 39. Percentage: 39 %.
Is this flat betting or is there a progression?
Also check your PM.
u can afford some losing if u win more.as for calculator i thought u mean that u can't calculate on paper, not enough time
ll l ll l lll ll
You must use a progression.
The test 10 is being very difficult. Ill write result in a while.
Well..... the session to suffer is here now.
Really an inferno from Dante.
Results first.
Test 10.
Result: -250. Min session: -1058 chips. :blink: :skull: Spins: 378. Percentage: 30 %. The session was 378 chips. Because of that I stopped: I didnt have more spins.
If I play it for real, I would stop on spin 202 (+6) and min session on that moment -278, but i continued session looking for +50 chips to test it. :punish:
If you want make an idea about the progression, the max progression in that session was 12 x aprox., where x is the initial bet.
I want to rest now. Go to bed. If you want make more questions, you can write it here. See you tomorrow.
Greetings.
JavierTT
Another before sleep.
Test 11.
Result: +55. Min session: -21 chips. Spins: 17. Percentage: 47 %.
Another one.
Test 12.
Result: +53. Min session: -45 chips. Spins: 27. Percentage: 41 %.
Another one.
Test 13.
Result: +25. Min session: -14 chips. Spins: 48. Percentage: 36 %.
I stopped because I got to +48 and +49 and cant +50 and I am tired now.
hallo guys,
I hope you are setisfied with my system. Thank you all!
I will do optimisation calculations for 1/6 and for al other fractions and send results to everybody who bought my strategy.
JavierTT, concernig the test 10 (the bad one ), we can improve my strategy by changing the fixed fraction. If at some moment we have noticed that the percentage is , let us say, 30% (significantly less than 32%), then the fixed fraction is allowed to increase, so instead of 0. 08% we may end up with , for example, 10% or 12%, and keep on playing with the new percentage.
Let us reffer to this improved strategy as "the adaptive strategy".
Maher, It can be dangerous to increase the fixed fraction from 8% to 10% or 12 % when things go bad. I dont know if it is the best option. I want to know if you have enough experience using this system and what is the bankroll you recommend to play with.
I think it can be a good idea to play dozens and columns at same time. What do you think?
Greetings. JavierTT
Iggiv
If you use a fixed fraction of 10 % you can use pen and paper instead a calculator on land based casinos, dont you think? I have sent you a PM too.
Greetings.
JavierTT
Last night I lost a session with -4000 chips :angry2: :blink: and I was changing dozen every spin
:'(
Never over 30 %. Several houndred spins.
This needs a stoploss, at least.
Javier,
if the percentage is at most 30%, then we need to take a larger fixed fraction. That has come to be directly connected to what I dealt with in my article.
0. 08 is well defined only for 32%. Your last session was significantly biased, and you should take a larger fixed fraction on time
I will make calculations for 30% and send you
Hallo,
This strategy is mathematically proven. If you bet on dozens or columns, after a while, you should win in 32% of spins, if the wheel is unbiased. If you apply fixed fraction 0. 08 or 8% , you'll win for sure.
If percentage of your wins is below 32% , you should use bigger fixed fraction.
I'll calculate fixed fractions for several percentages and everyone who bought my strategy will get these results.
You can lose only if the percentage of your wins is below percentage which corresponds to fixed fraction you apply.
Quote from: JavierTT on January 11, 2011, 08:10:39 PM
Last night I lost a session with -4000 chips :angry2: :blink: and I was changing dozen every spin
:'(
Never over 30 %. Several houndred spins.
This needs a stoploss, at least.
dozen every spin not good. i would say 3 or 4 spins?
QuoteLast night I lost a session with -4000 chips angry2 blink and I was changing dozen every spin
Never over 30 %. Several houndred spins.
This needs a stoploss, at least.
If a system legitimately wins over the long term, the more you play the more you'll win - simple as that. Just like without a system that works, the house edge ensures the more you play the more you lose.
It is important to know that any system can achieve wins over even thousands of spins. Even random betting can do this. So many people who tests systems may start out well, but sure enough they eventually lose. See nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html)
Steve.
I bought your system yet. Years ago.
Then you must be the one who breached the contract. :whistle:
for everybody who bought my system:
for 30%: fixed fraction is 12,5% (u can use 13%)
for 28%: fixed fraction is 17,5% (you can use 18%)
Test it, it works for sure
im not sure if i understand but are you saying bet on one dozen and then move to another dozen on your next spin?
and use progressions after a loss, is this right?
if that is how it is then you are following the dozen in hoping to catch a win streak (which would work if you had a descent progression.
is that how i understand it to be true?
how to calculate 28 or 30 %?
hello Iggiv an others,
the fixed fraction for 30% and 28% is calculated by mathmatical softwear "Mathematica".
About the system:
You have to play on dozens. you can bet on the same dozen all the time, you can bet on a different dozen every spin, you can do whatever you want. Because the probability that your dozen is the wining one is always 12/37=32.43%. So, it is reasonable to expect that after same time( let say 76 spins) you will win 32% of spins( 76*0.32=24 spins).
According to probability theory percentage of wining bets on dozens should be 32,43% after some time, let say that is not your day and you win in 28% of spins.
We designed mathematical formula and by means of it we calculate the bets in every spin. Applying this formula you will earn as sun as your percentage of wining bets reach 28%.
Percentage of wining bets fixed fraction
32% 8%
30% 13%
28% 18%