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I downloaded a system called the cpr system by chuck sutton has anyone tried this system , does it work?. I tried it a few times and it made a few hundred chips. Looks pretty good. Basically it works by waiting for a set of nine numbers to miss 9 times then bet on the 9 numbers with a progression of
1. 1. 1 .2  2. 3. 4 .5 .7. 9. 11. 16. 22. 90% of the time wins seem to come in by the 9th leg of the progression with many wins coming in at only the first or second leg. I did see a set of 9 numbers miss 26 times so I guess it's not perfect. Any one tried it with success ? .
Another progression for this is 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 12.  16. 22.

No offence Kingspin. but your figures are wrong.  can easy happen. It should be more like this.

1. bet 9 either win 27 or lose 9
2. bet 9 either win 18 or lose 18
3. bet 9 either win 9 or lose 27
4. bet 18 either win 27 or lose 45
5. bet 18 either win 9 or lose 63
6. bet 27 either win 18 or lose 90
7. bet 36 either win 18 or lose 126
8. bet 45 either win 9 or lose 171
9. bet 63 either win 18 or lose 234
10. bet 81 either win 9 or lose 315
11. bet 108 either win 9 or lose 423

So instead of  1 1 1 2 2 3 4 5 6 8 11. I having 1 1 1 2 2 3 4 5 7 9 12

hope that clears things up. even when you reading things you download. always double check for yourself and make sure everything add up. because if you get to casino and start playing and make mistake. it is to late. good luck with this. enrique.

Kingspin. If you waiting 37/38 numbers then I thinking if right most time there going to be about 12 number left that still not come. If so then why not wait for another 3 of the missing 12 to appear and then back the other 9 using your progression. this mean you could have seen maybe up to 50 number before you start progression. not saying this will work in long run because I do not think it will however trying for outrunning the SD is some people way of playing and can go long time without losing. If 9 number not come out in 50 spin and should really be coming 1 spin every four. then the SD is about 12. then you got say 12 spin progression which then giving you SD of 15. I think this is right on the edge and your probability of winning each game must be in very high 99% range. It would be good if someone play like this for 6 month and see what happen.  this is in the liking of solitude raindrop method. also you need lot of patience and spare time on your hands.

My success rate is 100 % i win every session with my unique number sets. No bull i am winning at a rate of 100%  :D.   Your 99% guess was  accurate. I have beat the wheel.

Kingspin

Please share with us your "unique number sets" so we may win a few skins ourselves.

Thanks

Sam

Quote from: enrique malou on August 07, 2008, 08:24:49 AM
No offence Kingspin. but your figures are wrong.  can easy happen. It should be more like this.

1. bet 9 either win 27 or lose 9
2. bet 9 either win 18 or lose 18
3. bet 9 either win 9 or lose 27
4. bet 18 either win 27 or lose 45
5. bet 18 either win 9 or lose 63
6. bet 27 either win 18 or lose 90
7. bet 36 either win 18 or lose 126
8. bet 45 either win 9 or lose 171
9. bet 63 either win 18 or lose 234
10. bet 81 either win 9 or lose 315
11. bet 108 either win 9 or lose 423

So instead of  1 1 1 2 2 3 4 5 6 8 11. I having 1 1 1 2 2 3 4 5 7 9 12

hope that clears things up. even when you reading things you download. always double check for yourself and make sure everything add up. because if you get to casino and start playing and make mistake. it is to late. good luck with this. enrique.

Thanks enrique you are right about that progression , yours is a little more aggressive higher up the ladder. Actually i prefer this progression 1 1 2 2 3 4 6 8 12 16 22. This is the best progression to use with this system. Most wins are no furthur up the progression than number 6 on the progression. Only once in 2000 spins did it go to 22 on the progression. Once had a freak show where it went about 5 steps past the 22 level. I have tested a lot of roulette systems and i can honestly say that the CPR system works better than any others i have ever tried. The only downside to this system is that you need an 800 chip buy in for safe winning . I rate this system 9 out of ten. The official win rate is 95% to 98 %. So far i am at 100% win rate.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 08, 2008, 07:40:16 PM
Kingspin

Please share with us your "unique number sets" so we may win a few skins ourselves.

Thanks

Sam

Try any adjacent 3 streets.

Thanks, Mr. 7

I found this just by googleing:
CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf  (nolinks://nolinks.freeadultstuff.us/gamble/302systems/CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf)

;) :o :-[ >:D


TTT

Quote from: TicTacToe on August 10, 2008, 05:40:47 PM
I found this just by googleing:
CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf  (nolinks://nolinks.freeadultstuff.us/gamble/302systems/CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf)

;) :o :-[ >:D


TTT

LOL.... You revealed Kingspin's secret. How could you?  ;D

Here are the sections:
A. 2, 4, 15, 17, 19, 21, 25, 32, 34
B. 6, 8, 10, 11, 13, 23, 27, 30, 36
C. 1, 5, 9, 14, 16, 20, 24, 31, 33
D. 3, 7, 12, 18, 22, 26, 28, 29, 35

That's the Single Zero version


If you read on a bit further you'll see the Double Zero version.

This is for the Single player, not the Partner play. ::)


TTT

Quote from: Roulette787 on August 10, 2008, 08:35:00 PM

Quote from: TicTacToe on August 10, 2008, 05:40:47 PM
I found this just by googleing:
CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf  (nolinks://nolinks.freeadultstuff.us/gamble/302systems/CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf)

;) :o :-[ >:D


TTT

Forget about those sections they win at first then losses happen after a while. I have my own unique multiplex sections that give 100% success.  The sections in the pdf suck big time.  :)   >:D

LOL.... You revealed Kingspin's secret. How could you?  ;D

Here are the sections:
A. 2, 4, 15, 17, 19, 21, 25, 32, 34
B. 6, 8, 10, 11, 13, 23, 27, 30, 36
C. 1, 5, 9, 14, 16, 20, 24, 31, 33
D. 3, 7, 12, 18, 22, 26, 28, 29, 35

Quote from: Kingspin on August 10, 2008, 10:01:59 PMown unique multiplex sections that give 100% success.

So when are you going to put it on sale?

Ok here are a few tips for any of you guys planning on using this CPR Roulette System , i have won tons of real money with this system but  there are some important things to take note of if you wish to win a juicy cash stash. First forget about the ATTACK MODE if you are playing single player 4 section method, reason is you just don't get enough repeat sections hitting for it to be worth while. You can make good profit without using it. What you will find if you do decide to use attack mode after a win is that if your winning section fails to hit (which it does often) then you start to loose profit what you made in the coast mode. Stick to coast mode always on 4 section games and don't risk going for that elusive repeat. Thats what i do and it works well. If sitting and waiting for your missed 9 number set to qualify is boring you to death which is what will happen ,then do what i do and have "twin boards". Twin boards means devise two separate 9 number sets so that you have two games going to monitor the missed number section. eg A B C D sections are on your normal game, but you now have a different set of numbers  EFGH for example. What i like about this method is you can get wins in faster. The numbers have to be wheel sections not just random numbers spattered all over the wheel. I have my own twin set of  wheel sector numbers, you could use say "the standard" numbers below on your normal ABCD game and have a back up number set on board B so you don't have to wait as long for a bet.  These numbers below work fairly well, not always but 90% of the time they work ok.
         GAME   A (Board A)
A. 2, 4, 15, 17, 19, 21, 25, 32, 34
B. 6, 8, 10, 11, 13, 23, 27, 30, 36
C. 1, 5, 9, 14, 16, 20, 24, 31, 33
D. 3, 7, 12, 18, 22, 26, 28, 29, 35

      GAME B  (Board B)
E. Your own different 9 numbers  line.
F. Your own different 9 numbers  line.
G. Your own different 9 numbers  line.
H  Your own different 9 numbers  line.   

So as you can see we now have two "boards" to monitor in place of just one. Try some sort of mix and match on board B and experiment to see which works best for you. I have tested these methods at what i call extended play sessions to see how long you can play without going bust. What i have discovered is that the wheel will make it harder and harder to win the longer you sit playing.  Sit down for say an hour and make say 100 -150  chips profit then QUIT . If you get greedy the wheel will punish you i promise.  Leave the wheel to spin it self out for say 100 spins before returning. Failiure to do what i say will cost you. Also do not play more than 1 game at a time on the table , what i mean is either bet with board A numbers or board B numbers dont try to run 2 games by betting on both board A AND B at the same time as you can run into  big problems . Just use the twin boards for monitoring the missed 9 number sections you are looking for. And bet only on the 1 board!.  Sit down and practice a few hundred times before trying it in a casino. Or use it for online real wheels only where it works like magic!. Good luck fron Kingspin........ Remember Make 100 -150 and quit for another day and you can rake in big money with this system. Sit at the table too long and you will see your  betting number section miss 26 times i promise you.

I am not been funny here but i would never even dream of selling a system.. I am not into selling systems. I just play to win. I have methods that beat the wheel every time , methods better than the CPR  - much better. I use my own system called Magical Splits .My Magical Splits took me an hour to design and works fantastic.  I  look on casino's as my cash cow.  ;D   Easy to beat the wheel if you know how. No i am not selling my Magical Splits  system because it works. People only sell systems that don't work because no one in his right mind would sell a goldmine system!.  Best thing about My magical splits method is that the buy in is only 300 chips , profit is 150  - 200 chips within an hour. It works 100% for me. One of those systems where you have to spread your playing over a few casino's so they don't ban you.  ;D

Forum

I don't know about the rest of you people, but I have some serious questions for a person who invents the "Holy Grail" in less than an hour and has to dodge security at the casinos.........and then.........he comes on here blowing about it.

Victor

I think we need some guidelines on this crap.  Perhaps a "put up or shut up" rule needs some thought.

Sam

I agree with Sam. This is ridiculous. If you win 150-200 chip per hour at $5.00. Then that is $1000. times 5 hours = $5000. times 7 days = $35000. times 4 weeks = $140000. times 12 months = $1680000. Haha. this is crazy. It take me 5 years to win any kind of decent money with roulette and I have many losing sessions. but somehow this magical split turn you into multi-millionaire over 12 months for few hours work a day. and you never have losing session. yeah right. It is magical ok. the magic mushrooms I am thinking.

Quote from: Kingspin on August 11, 2008, 11:36:28 AM
I am not been funny here but I would never even dream of selling a system.. I am not into selling systems. I just play to win. I have methods that beat the wheel every time , methods better than the CPR  - much better. I use my own system called Magical Splits .My Magical Splits took me an hour to design and works fantastic.  I  look on casino's as my cash cow.  ;D   Easy to beat the wheel if you know how. No I am not selling my Magical Splits  system because it works. People only sell systems that don't work because no one in his right mind would sell a goldmine system!.  Best thing about My magical splits method is that the buy in is only 300 chips , profit is 150  - 200 chips within an hour. It works 100% for me. One of those systems where you have to spread your playing over a few casino's so they don't ban you.  ;D

How many splits do you play on a single spin?

hi all

hi kingspin,

nice posts. but are you sure that your system is working for you every time ?
is it really a cash cow ?
pls guide

anand

Well-said Sam.

I haven't been a member here for very long, but long enough to appreciate that VLS is a forum for helping, sharing and discussing; and not for boasting about some secret method that works 100%.

Kingpin has offered some useful advice (for beginners at least) on dodgyness of the CPR, so thanks for that Kingpin. But if you have got some secret HG-like system, why would you even bring up the inferior CPR system on this site?

Come to think of it, if you have a system that win 100%, why are you here in the first place?

CD

Kingspin

Don't get fooled into exposing you're system. Just send me a copy and I'll verify it, and then sell it ummm I mean I'll validate your comments for the forum members.


TTT >:D

Very inspirational posts Kingspin. Thank you.
I read the CPR method and am keen to try it soon.

Questions
Do you think the dual player mode was invented purely to make it quicker and easier to place bets?

Is there any reason why you shouldnt play this method as an individual?

Do you think the attack mode would work better with this mode, as there would be more chance with only 3 sections instead of 4?

The 3 section dual player method on cpr is in my opinion no good. For reasons i don't know it does not work as well as single player method.  Number Sections seem to miss more  at longer intervals  so it seemed with my tests anyway at least. Personally i would not play the dual player method. You would think the 3 section method had a faster win rate i know, but it does not work that way. In fact i only had maybe 70% success with the 3 section method. What i like about the cpr roulette system is you can just go online to a live roulette site and sweep up the numbers check for a 9 number set that has missed at least 9 times (preferably more than 9 times) bet real fast so you don't miss the win. I prefer to bet after 10 -11  misses because the win's come within 1 or 2 spins usually.  Real Cool system this if played right. Nice earner for sure. My advice is to play around with the number sections trying different combinations that work best for you.. I belieive all it says about it in the pdf. Does what it says on the tin. >:D

The system uses a progressive betting method on splits on a roulette board with a re - designed number layout. I am at 100% win rate, can it fail  you will be thinking- well maybe it can but when played right it works every time. I am not talking crap honestly you have to believe me.  I am sure it would not work for everyone though. It just brings me the results i want. Its only beaten by the house edge.

Quote from: enrique malou on August 11, 2008, 01:03:06 PM
I agree with Sam. This is ridiculous. If you win 150-200 chip per hour at $5.00. Then that is $1000. times 5 hours = $5000. times 7 days = $35000. times 4 weeks = $140000. times 12 months = $1680000. Haha. this is crazy. It take me 5 years to win any kind of decent money with roulette and I have many losing sessions. but somehow this magical split turn you into multi-millionaire over 12 months for few hours work a day. and you never have losing session. yeah right. It is magical ok. the magic mushrooms I am thinking.

Enrique and two cat if you don't beleive me thats fine , i don't want to appear like i am bragging about some holy grail systems. Please don' believe me thats fine with me honestly. I have nothing to gain from telling lies to anyone. All i am saying is that if played properly my systems work for me. I am not trying to BS anyone. The best systems come from within and not from some book or web site!.  I am off to  the casino soon so i have to go now , bye.  :-[

Kingspin

I opened a thread just for you in the "pit".  Posted it here, but that's not right!

Sam

Kingspin!

I am happy for you that you have find system it works  ;) I know now you thing you are making big money now and nothing can stop you....been there...but after few days or weeks...bummmm...fell down! My dreams has broken and so on...must say to you that i was allready having one island on Bahamas and have invite all my frends on it...and a lot of girls there and they are waiting only for me in bad  8) (in my dreams of course)
Deep in my heart i hope this is what you hope it is!

But some big questions...for me verry importend!
How much money in this system is in to lose?How many units?
And how much times must i win to get this money back if happened that i lose?
So if you win...how many units you get...and if you lose how many units you lose?

Becouse i can have 100.000usd & system and can say that i am winning all the time and earning a lot of money...now i have 140.000usd and so on...but if one time happened that i will lose that 100.000usd...i have only 60.000usd left and i have lose 40.000usd...not win...for me good system is to win enough times...and if i lose (if not today for sure tommorow) how many times must i win to get this money back.

This system can work if you win enough money to cover if you lose in short time.
Please answer me...that i can see if it is really good to give money and time in this system or not.
Those people who are sceptical in your system only wish you the best...not to steal your dreams and your winning aditude...they wont to make you to look other way...if this is really a gold mine or you just think it is becouse you are making money now.

Wish you best of the best to all of you!

lets say the cpr method does produce a 95 - 98% win rate. You need about 800 units to play it? If you do make your 100 units per session like it claims you can, then in 100 sessions, you will have won 100 x 95 = 9500 (95%) or 100 x 98 = 9800 (98%).

Your 2 - 5 losing sessions where you lose your entire BR will be 5 x 800 = 4000 (95%) or 2 x 800 = 1600 (98%)

Therefore your profit from 100 sessions is 9500 - 4000 = 5500 units (95%) or 9800 - 1600 = 8200 units (98%)

If you make more than 100 unit s a session then its more!

So you should stay ahead in the long run based on this? Correct me if I'm wrong?

This should sort things out a bit (No i didn't buy it - i just know some sources)

nolinks://nolinks.freeadultstuff.us/gamble/302systems/CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf (nolinks://nolinks.freeadultstuff.us/gamble/302systems/CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf) ENJOY

Quote from: witho on August 13, 2008, 08:24:18 AM
lets say the cpr method does produce a 95 - 98% win rate. You need about 800 units to play it? If you do make your 100 units per session like it claims you can, then in 100 sessions, you will have won 100 x 95 = 9500 (95%) or 100 x 98 = 9800 (98%).

Your 2 - 5 losing sessions where you lose your entire BR will be 5 x 800 = 4000 (95%) or 2 x 800 = 1600 (98%)

Therefore your profit from 100 sessions is 9500 - 4000 = 5500 units (95%) or 9800 - 1600 = 8200 units (98%)

If you make more than 100 unit s a session then its more!

So you should stay ahead in the long run based on this? Correct me if I'm wrong?






Yes that is correct but you forgot to consider the house edge has another 2.7% to deduct on the single 0 wheel . On paper it should work pretty good. I would not play this system on 00 wheels, no way.

Kingspin wrote in reply #23 on: Yesterday at 09:26:37 PM (above)

"I am at 100% win rate" and
"Its only beaten by the house edge."

Isn't that a contradiction?

KFS

Quote from: Kon-Fu-Sed on August 13, 2008, 09:43:37 AM
Kingspin wrote in reply #23 on: Yesterday at 09:26:37 PM (above)

"I am at 100% win rate" and
"Its only beaten by the house edge."

Isn't that a contradiction?

KFS

LOL, yeah, it's like saying " I win 100% of the time... except when I lose."

MM

I just played this system with 9 numbers like you said Kingspin., I waited for 9 to 10 times for a section not to hit. I got a win within 1 -2 spins! Made 50 units in fast time. I did graph 2 charts to speed up the bets like you did. Thanks for your info on this. Will keep playing and see how it goes.

Hi ks, Just thinking to myself what a shame you're not in Berlin then we both would have someone to talk to while were waiting, read jswfa it says there 12 section 12 spins and a 9 section 16 spins before you can ATTACK, this method does not confine the player to 3 sections of 12 on the wheel but the player can observe quite easily 37 sections of 12,,,EU ROLETTE, KIND REGARDS BERLINER BRUCE

Quote from: witho on August 14, 2008, 09:28:56 AM
I just played this system with 9 numbers like you said Kingspin., I waited for 9 to 10 times for a section not to hit. I got a win within 1 -2 spins! Made 50 units in fast time. I did graph 2 charts to speed up the bets like you did. Thanks for your info on this. Will keep playing and see how it goes.

Hey witho you should try using the system just posted above by neuro its a real gem. Cpr is slow the system posted by neuro can be real fast profit maker. I am not sure but i think the system posted by neuro could be better even than cpr roulette. Happy gambling.......

Let me put it another way , any system is theoretically beaten by the house edge.  My systems don't beat the house edge in theory but in actual play sessions i always win. So you can draw your own conclusions. >:D

pls kindly advise ur system step by step..and how many bankroll i need?
im a lil bit confused.

hi Kingspin,

your sound like you have beaten the game of Roulette.  ;-)  ??




BobbyBobby

Quote from: Roulette787 on August 10, 2008, 08:35:00 PM

Quote from: TicTacToe on August 10, 2008, 05:40:47 PM
I found this just by googleing:
CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf  (nolinks://nolinks.freeadultstuff.us/gamble/302systems/CONSISTENTPROFIT.pdf)

;) :o :-[ >:D


TTT

LOL.... You revealed Kingspin's secret. How could you?  ;D

Here are the sections:
A. 2, 4, 15, 17, 19, 21, 25, 32, 34
B. 6, 8, 10, 11, 13, 23, 27, 30, 36
C. 1, 5, 9, 14, 16, 20, 24, 31, 33
D. 3, 7, 12, 18, 22, 26, 28, 29, 35

Try these :

A: 2,11,20,29,3,12,21,30,13,23,33,32  = figure 2 and 3/ When dominant in permanence, play this group.
B: 6,16,26,36,8,18,28,9,19,29,4,14,24 = cadence 6,8,9,4 / When dominant in permanence, play this group.
C: 4,5,13,22,31,7,16,25,34,17,27,1,10   = figure  4 and 7+ cadence 7 + no1 / When dominant in permanence, play this group.

Cheers
/Compa

I know the cpr system (cpr means artificial breathing in First Aid) before kingspin was born. It wins and lose. The 3 sectors version is much more secure but still it is a static system.
Ask Gamlet and Darmaid, they lost a half of century testing the sectors and abandoned it. Only Raindrop stands firm on sectors because it plays with the trends, that is flexible. Just for curiosity how much is the Magic system? How much better it could be than consistent lose, sorry, consistent profit?
Thanks Hermes

Quote from: hermes on August 16, 2008, 09:19:32 PM
I know the cpr system (cpr means artificial breathing in First Aid) before kingspin was born. It wins and lose. The 3 sectors version is much more secure but still it is a static system.
Ask Gamlet and Darmaid, they lost a half of century testing the sectors and abandoned it. Only Raindrop stands firm on sectors because it plays with the trends, that is flexible. Just for curiosity how much is the Magic system? How much better it could be than consistent lose, sorry, consistent profit?
Thanks Hermes

Hi Hermes, thanks for your views on CPR Roulette. Personally i like CPR Roulette.  I use a slightly different method to what you read In  the cpr roulette guide.  Some sectors hit faster than others some take longer to hit it all depends on how you interpretate things, i think i spelt that wrong. I have my own unique personal sectors using a special matrix i tested that gives me 100% win rate.  I win every game and i mean every single game. The only way to fail is to have too small a bankroll. Like the guy chuck sutton who author the method says a minimum 800 chip bankroll is the most important thing.  Like i said before standard wheel sector numbers are not always good but work mostly. If played Right CPR is very very good.  >:D

Quote from: Kingspin on August 07, 2008, 07:28:57 AM
I downloaded a system called the cpr system by chuck sutton has anyone tried this system , does it work?. I tried it a few times and it made a few hundred chips. Looks pretty good. Basically it works by waiting for a set of nine numbers to miss 9 times then bet on the 9 numbers with a progression of
111 2 2 3 4 5 6 8 11 16 22. 90% of the time wins seem to come in by the 9th leg of the progression with many wins coming in at only the first or second leg. I did see a set of 9 numbers miss 26 times so I guess it's not perfect. Any one tried it with success ? .

Maybe you were just unlucky kingspin. I calculated, if you lose, you have to win 33 times to cover your loss. I will do a session of 100 rounds for testing. After 7 misses I start playing 9 unhit numbers. If I'm losing more than winning, we can exclude this system to.

Quote from: Kingspin on August 07, 2008, 07:28:57 AM
I downloaded a system called the cpr system by chuck sutton has anyone tried this system , does it work?. I tried it a few times and it made a few hundred chips. Looks pretty good. Basically it works by waiting for a set of nine numbers to miss 9 times then bet on the 9 numbers with a progression of
111 2 2 3 4 5 6 8 11 16 22. 90% of the time wins seem to come in by the 9th leg of the progression with many wins coming in at only the first or second leg. I did see a set of 9 numbers miss 26 times so I guess it's not perfect. Any one tried it with success ? .

How much did you play/tested yourself Kingspin? When you're one a losing streak, I would wait till the streak is over (in your case 26). Than start again.

I mean, if you win 98-99 out of 100 you make some good money with it.

Jur

Would this sytem work on Double Zero?

thank you so much

Yes, download the PDF format, it's posted in this thread. You need to split the wheel into a pie (4 sectors when played alone). It's all in the file.

Good luck.

Jur

roulette is finish to me today i tested this won 1st game 2 game then section D missed for 9 spins so lets go progression 111223457912 boom there it all gone
or i dont have any luck or im cheated like the hell
there i go to poker thats the only place i can win

benfica are you playing live roulette?

yes it was live roulette at eurogrand

Quote from: benfica on August 28, 2008, 08:43:14 AM
roulette is finish to me today I tested this won 1st game 2 game then section D missed for 9 spins so lets go progression 111223457912 boom there it all gone
or I dont have any luck or im cheated like the hell
there I go to poker thats the only place I can win

In the system, Chuck Sutton says that you will lose. Approx. 1 in 66 times. Maybe you had just bad luck.

Quote from: benfica on August 28, 2008, 08:43:14 AM
roulette is finish to me today I tested this won 1st game 2 game then section D missed for 9 spins so lets go progression 111223457912 boom there it all gone
or I dont have any luck or im cheated like the hell
there I go to poker thats the only place I can win

I don't like eurogrand. I played there. When I wanted to collect money money to my bank, I had to make at least $ 500,- for a direct transfer. And more of that shit. I couldn't transfer the money to moneybookers because I didnd't deposit via Moneybookers. So I kept playing, lost my money and never go there again.

But then again, maybe the system isn't that good.

I'm still testing (@ dublinbet) and so far looks pretty good.

Quote from: JHM on August 28, 2008, 01:35:46 PM

Quote from: benfica on August 28, 2008, 08:43:14 AM
roulette is finish to me today I tested this won 1st game 2 game then section D missed for 9 spins so lets go progression 111223457912 boom there it all gone
or I dont have any luck or im cheated like the hell
there I go to poker thats the only place I can win

In the system, Chuck Sutton says that you will lose. Approx. 1 in 66 times. Maybe you had just bad luck.

Quote from: benfica on August 28, 2008, 08:43:14 AM
roulette is finish to me today I tested this won 1st game 2 game then section D missed for 9 spins so lets go progression 111223457912 boom there it all gone
or I dont have any luck or im cheated like the hell
there I go to poker thats the only place I can win

I don't like eurogrand. I played there. When I wanted to collect money money to my bank, I had to make at least $ 500,- for a direct transfer. And more of that shit. I couldn't transfer the money to moneybookers because I didnd't deposit via Moneybookers. So I kept playing, lost my money and never go there again.

But then again, maybe the system isn't that good.

I'm still testing (@ dublinbet) and so far looks pretty good.

Hello JHM,

How did it turn out?Is it usable?

Quote from: see_jerek on October 02, 2008, 11:11:26 AM

Quote from: JHM on August 28, 2008, 01:35:46 PM

Quote from: benfica on August 28, 2008, 08:43:14 AM
roulette is finish to me today I tested this won 1st game 2 game then section D missed for 9 spins so lets go progression 111223457912 boom there it all gone
or I dont have any luck or im cheated like the hell
there I go to poker thats the only place I can win

In the system, Chuck Sutton says that you will lose. Approx. 1 in 66 times. Maybe you had just bad luck.

Quote from: benfica on August 28, 2008, 08:43:14 AM
roulette is finish to me today I tested this won 1st game 2 game then section D missed for 9 spins so lets go progression 111223457912 boom there it all gone
or I dont have any luck or im cheated like the hell
there I go to poker thats the only place I can win

I don't like eurogrand. I played there. When I wanted to collect money money to my bank, I had to make at least $ 500,- for a direct transfer. And more of that shit. I couldn't transfer the money to moneybookers because I didnd't deposit via Moneybookers. So I kept playing, lost my money and never go there again.

But then again, maybe the system isn't that good.

I'm still testing (@ dublinbet) and so far looks pretty good.

Hello JHM,

How did it turn out?Is it usable?

I tested it, in the end it didn't.

For the testing see nolinks://vlsroulette.com/testing-zone/cpr-(consistent-profit-roulette)/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/testing-zone/cpr-(consistent-profit-roulette)/)

hi,

maybe after a loss play the session to win some money back instead, because those 3 losses where you quit after loss and came back, that is alot more likely to happen if you join at random points throughout the day, of course there is always the chance you can get 3 losses in close succession in one session of betting but i think it would be alot rarer for that to happen.

3 losses in quick succession from 3 different sessions, personally i would put it down to bad timing joining the table rather than a system failure, would you agree?

br,
ryan

Quote from: ryan08 on October 02, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
hi,

maybe after a loss play the session to win some money back instead, because those 3 losses where you quit after loss and came back, that is alot more likely to happen if you join at random points throughout the day, of course there is always the chance you can get 3 losses in close succession in one session of betting but I think it would be alot rarer for that to happen.

3 losses in quick succession from 3 different sessions, personally I would put it down to bad timing joining the table rather than a system failure, would you agree?

br,
ryan

I can't agree and I can't disagree. In testing mode you can see how much wins I had. Even a few close calls there. The loss in units is to big when you loose compare to the wins.

Personally I have found out I'm not a progression player but a flat better. For some it works, Kingspin here does play the system with succes. Ask him.

Quote from: JHM on October 03, 2008, 01:47:21 PM

Quote from: ryan08 on October 02, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
hi,

maybe after a loss play the session to win some money back instead, because those 3 losses where you quit after loss and came back, that is alot more likely to happen if you join at random points throughout the day, of course there is always the chance you can get 3 losses in close succession in one session of betting but I think it would be alot rarer for that to happen.

3 losses in quick succession from 3 different sessions, personally I would put it down to bad timing joining the table rather than a system failure, would you agree?

br,
ryan

I can't agree and I can't disagree. In testing mode you can see how much wins I had. Even a few close calls there. The loss in units is to big when you loose compare to the wins.

Personally I have found out I'm not a progression player but a flat better. For some it works, Kingspin here does play the system with succes. Ask him.

No he didn't he lose a lot of money on it recently.I was shocked to hear the amount.I am not a fan of progression as well since you are a flat better,what kind of systems do you think is effective in your opinion.I would like to learn more too just can't find anything suitable

Hello guys,

I may be mistaken but this very similar to John Solitude's Raindrop system.  I have played Raindrop for a little while...until I dropped my pants!  I had an 8 number sector go cold for 31 spins.  I stopped there. It took another 15 spins before it got a hit.  That a walloping 45 spins that went cold.

These streaks happen way too often.  This system relies on the assumption that it has gone cold for "too long", it has to hit now.  Again, this has been done over and over and again in various forms: numbers, streets, dozens, etc.

Whenever you run this on RX for a few thousand spins it always fail.  Sure you are very likely to win for a while (as I did).  But if you plan to play quite often, this not the solution.

It has been proven that running and falling on your nose hurts.  How many times we have to do the same thing before trying something different?

I have spoken to Solitude himself.  He told me he does not play his system,  that it does NOT win long term.  His system has been coded on RX.  Run it. You will see for yourself.

We have a very potent friend: the computer.  We should use it more.  More on that in a near future.

Insidebet

Quote from: insidebet  link=topic=1828.msg23523#msg23523 date=1223114537
Hello guys,

I may be mistaken but this very similar to John Solitude's Raindrop system.  I have played Raindrop for a little while...until I dropped my pants!  I had an 8 number sector go cold for 31 spins.  I stopped there. It took another 15 spins before it got a hit.  That a walloping 45 spins that went cold.

These streaks happen way too often.  This system relies on the assumption that it has gone cold for "too long", it has to hit now.  Again, this has been done over and over and again in various forms: numbers, streets, dozens, etc.

Whenever you run this on RX for a few thousand spins it always fail.  Sure you are very likely to win for a while (as I did).  But if you plan to play quite often, this not the solution.

It has been proven that running and falling on your nose hurts.  How many times we have to do the same thing before trying something different?

I have spoken to Solitude himself.  He told me he does not play his system,  that it does NOT win long term.  His system has been coded on RX.  Run it. You will see for yourself.

We have a very potent friend: the computer.  We should use it more.  More on that in a near future.

Insidebet

Then what system does John play do you have any idea

Jerek the reason i lost the money was because i bottled out on some of the higher progressions , what made it worse was the bet would have won on the next spin , Confidence was low.  i would have been in a much better position to win if i had gone all the way with the progressions.  Another thing that went wrong for me was that i bet a wrong number on a section , i bet wrong number 36 when i should have bet  number 34 and guess what number 34 hit  which cost me hundreds on one stupid mistake.  I carried on playing to win back the losses but the wheel was a pig to me with it going all the way to towards the big progressions so again i bottled out and was sick when the winning sector would have hit on the very next spin.  I put my bad session down to bad luck and stupid mistakes , bad timing. Some days its easy to make 250 an hour with this system , you have to wait for 12 misses minimum to play safe though , 9 misses  before betting is way too risky i have found this out with practice. Basically the cpr system will make a lot of money fast or it will be a long hard slog. I still intend to play it but i am looking for better system than this , its no holy grail.  You need to bet on 0 too to make it work .

Quote from: see_jerek on October 04, 2008, 06:02:17 AM

Quote from: JHM on October 03, 2008, 01:47:21 PM

Quote from: ryan08 on October 02, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
hi,

maybe after a loss play the session to win some money back instead, because those 3 losses where you quit after loss and came back, that is alot more likely to happen if you join at random points throughout the day, of course there is always the chance you can get 3 losses in close succession in one session of betting but I think it would be alot rarer for that to happen.

3 losses in quick succession from 3 different sessions, personally I would put it down to bad timing joining the table rather than a system failure, would you agree?

br,
ryan

I can't agree and I can't disagree. In testing mode you can see how much wins I had. Even a few close calls there. The loss in units is to big when you loose compare to the wins.

Personally I have found out I'm not a progression player but a flat better. For some it works, Kingspin here does play the system with succes. Ask him.

No he didn't he lose a lot of money on it recently.I was shocked to hear the amount.I am not a fan of progression as well since you are a flat better,what kind of systems do you think is effective in your opinion.I would like to learn more too just can't find anything suitable

In the testing Area you can see Twocatsam is testing the Murph / 2selecta system with good results. Also Winkel's ''G.U.T.'' seems to be winning more than losing. Both use flat bets.

See_jerek

Last I talked to Solitude, he wasn't into Roulette anymore.  He said it was a lot easier for him to make money playing Poker.

Insider

Quote from: JHM on October 04, 2008, 01:05:10 PM

Quote from: see_jerek on October 04, 2008, 06:02:17 AM

Quote from: JHM on October 03, 2008, 01:47:21 PM

Quote from: ryan08 on October 02, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
hi,

maybe after a loss play the session to win some money back instead, because those 3 losses where you quit after loss and came back, that is alot more likely to happen if you join at random points throughout the day, of course there is always the chance you can get 3 losses in close succession in one session of betting but I think it would be alot rarer for that to happen.

3 losses in quick succession from 3 different sessions, personally I would put it down to bad timing joining the table rather than a system failure, would you agree?

br,
ryan

I can't agree and I can't disagree. In testing mode you can see how much wins I had. Even a few close calls there. The loss in units is to big when you loose compare to the wins.

Personally I have found out I'm not a progression player but a flat better. For some it works, Kingspin here does play the system with succes. Ask him.

No he didn't he lose a lot of money on it recently.I was shocked to hear the amount.I am not a fan of progression as well since you are a flat better,what kind of systems do you think is effective in your opinion.I would like to learn more too just can't find anything suitable

In the testing Area you can see Twocatsam is testing the Murph / 2selecta system with good results. Also Winkel's ''G.U.T.'' seems to be winning more than losing. Both use flat bets.

I am aware about the GUT thanks for recommending 2selecta system.

Quote from: insidebet  link=topic=1828.msg23556#msg23556 date=1223143427
See_jerek

Last I talked to Solitude, he wasn't into Roulette anymore.  He said it was a lot easier for him to make money playing Poker.

Insider

Hi Insider,

this sound like bad news to me,just shows that roulette is impossible to beat :-[

Quote from: see_jerek on October 05, 2008, 06:11:01 AM

Quote from: insidebet  link=topic=1828.msg23556#msg23556 date=1223143427
See_jerek

Last I talked to Solitude, he wasn't into Roulette anymore.  He said it was a lot easier for him to make money playing Poker.

Insider

Hi Insider,

this sound like bad news to me,just shows that roulette is impossible to beat :-[

I see Solitude said it's easier for him to make money from poker......not that roulette is impossible to make money. Only harder. And if you loose you trust in a game due the opinion of Solitude.......than you should have listened to Albert Einstein and saved all the time you put in roulette so far  :)

See-jerek and JHM,

There is truth in what you both say.  But I like the demon and, sometimes, I feel that life is spinning wheel. (Joke. I am not that bad and I try to have a life!)

Einstein actually said that you could win at the game if could steal chips from the croupier when he has his back turned.  I tried it and I didn't get any chips but three broken fingers...

Insidebet

I didn't get any chips but three broken fingers...

;D LOL ;D


/KFS

Quote from: insidebet  link=topic=1828.msg23639#msg23639 date=1223212761
See-jerek and JHM,

There is truth in what you both say.  But I like the demon and, sometimes, I feel that life is spinning wheel. (Joke. I am not that bad and I try to have a life!)

Einstein actually said that you could win at the game if could steal chips from the croupier when he has his back turned.  I tried it and I didn't get any chips but three broken fingers...

Insidebet

;D thats a good one pal

So why do you waste your time at this Forum?

Quote from: insidebet  link=topic=1828.msg23639#msg23639 date=1223212761
See-jerek and JHM,

There is truth in what you both say.  But I like the demon and, sometimes, I feel that life is spinning wheel. (Joke. I am not that bad and I try to have a life!)

Einstein actually said that you could win at the game if could steal chips from the croupier when he has his back turned.  I tried it and I didn't get any chips but three broken fingers...

Insidebet

Then you still have seven to try again [smiley=2/biggrinsmiley.gif]

Quote from: MadMan on October 05, 2008, 12:02:49 PM
So why do you waste your time at this Forum?

Doing my best to find a way at least ;)

Quote from: see_jerek on October 05, 2008, 12:46:49 PM

Quote from: MadMan on October 05, 2008, 12:02:49 PM
So why do you waste your time at this Forum?

Doing my best to find a way at least ;)

Just like the rest of us Jerek....... ;)

Quote from: xman1970 on October 05, 2008, 12:59:22 PM

Quote from: see_jerek on October 05, 2008, 12:46:49 PM

Quote from: MadMan on October 05, 2008, 12:02:49 PM
So why do you waste your time at this Forum?

Doing my best to find a way at least ;)

Just like the rest of us Jerek....... ;)

Hello Xman,

How are things on your end?anything positive?

Not yet dude..... :-[

At least I cannot be accused of not trying  :)

Hope those numbers are helping..... 8)

Quote from: xman1970 on October 05, 2008, 04:45:04 PM
Not yet dude..... :-[

At least I cannot be accused of not trying  :)

Hope those numbers are helping..... 8)

Do let me know if you discover anything at all ;)

this system i think would be better if we bet a differnt way lets say wait 9 times for a section not to repeat then bet times on the sections to repeat this would be alllooootttt beter i say chuck sutton should now be MATTJONO. ill test all my sessions and see how much profit and how many times it went without repeating a section bet its only like 14 time without a repeat maybe ill be wrong but this way will be better for sure anyone agree or need a question on my teory  :-\

 can u give a quick example mattjono please mate, dont understand

ye m8 the 4 sections i made are....

A- 29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15,
B- 19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,
C- 13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5,24,
D- 16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,

WAIT FOR A SECTION NOT TO REPEAT ? AMOUNT OF TIMES LETS SAY WE WAIT 7 TIMES.
EXAMPLE = A-D-C-D-C-A-D WE NOW BET 1 UNIT ON SECTION D IF IT GOES ON SECTION B NEXT WE BET NEXT ON SECTION B

YOU UNDERSTAND M8

i just need to do the resech to see the furvest it can go without a repeat.... :-X

Quote from: ryan08 on October 17, 2008, 08:55:56 AM
can u give a quick example mattjono please mate, dont understand

Ryan,

Check thru the spins I gave you,few thousand spins it might just work

Just wait for a section to miss 12 times in place of chuck suttons 9 times.  Within 8 spins you will have a win 9 times out of ten at least thats if you wait 12 misses in the first place. The 9 times miss chuck recommends  is suicide if you play for big money.

maybe wait for 12 spins and play the progression to 8 steps, so you still go to the 20th step but if you lose you save  alot of money,
so instead of going 1/1/2/2/3/4/6/8/12/16/22

go/1/1/2/2/3/4/6/8

if you lose you will save 450!!!!!!!!!!!! over half your bankroll, but i dont know how much it will affect the wins to recover, ill try and find out, maybe someone else can have a go aswel, also mattjono i will look through 5000 spins that see jerek gave me and suggested i look through to find the maximum no repeat, will take some time though

I think your idea sounds ok.  How about a progression 1 1 2 3 4 6 8 12 after 12 misses.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: ryan08 on October 17, 2008, 12:54:10 PM
maybe wait for 12 spins and play the progression to 8 steps, so you still go to the 20th step but if you lose you save  alot of money,
so instead of going 1/1/2/2/3/4/6/8/12/16/22

go/1/1/2/2/3/4/6/8

if you lose you will save 450!!!!!!!!!!!! over half your bankroll, but I dont know how much it will affect the wins to recover, ill try and find out, maybe someone else can have a go aswel, also mattjono I will look through 5000 spins that see jerek gave me and suggested I look through to find the maximum no repeat, will take some time though

hello ryan,

up till date should be about 7000 odd spins,haven't you been receiving my emails on updated spins.Lets run it through and see if its gonna work your way.

@ kingspin

You must be waiting for a good plan for sweet revenge,me too.I have lose quite a bit on that Filipino wheel as well.Mate why don't you lend us a hand and help go thru the spins  to come up with an attack plan.Ryan is too busy nowadays winning hundreds of units everynow and then,it will take ages for him to go thru the data.Are you keen?I can provide the data.

Thanks for your offer jerek I am more than happy to test the spin data you have for cpr.  I have been doing a few tests on the method you mentioned about waiting for  a gap between repeats.  I checked through some cpr spin data I had and found a session where it went 18 spins without a section repeating , I think it's not too uncommon to see no repeats on a section to 18 spins or more.  Approx once every 200 spins  it's going to go on a run where no section repeats for say 18 spins. It seems to do ok waiting 7 or 8 spins without a repeat on any section then  keep betting using a conservative progression on the last section that hits, short term results tested  really good but I am pretty sure if you was playing for any length of time you will see long gaps between repeats but I have to say I like the idea and am using it in real play and making money from it for the time been at least. nice idea....... Yes the fillipino really really sucks , no way am I playing it again , honestly it is the worst wheel I have ever had the mis fortune to play , it is a looser = a big looser.  A very hard wheel to beat , also i noticed bet 365 have changed the minimum bet from 25p to £1 on live wheel , which also sucks. No way would i  dream of playing that wheel with even  only £1 units
as i don't trust that wheel they have..........

i have had a look at my idea on my 22 sessions the furvest it has gone without a repeat is 12 but like you said kingpin it will go to the 18th/19th/20th but id say its alot better than the 27th bet in the origanl system.
i have done what u said earlyer on in this thread i have made 4 sections of 9 numbers next to eachover in the wheel
A- 26---------TO---------17
B- 34---------TO---------23
C- 10---------TO---------31
D- 9----------TO---------3

ALSO SO WE NOT WAITNG SO LONG I HAVE MADE ANOTHER TO LOOK AT WHILE WAITNG

1- 4-----------TO----------13
2- 36----------TO----------16
3- 33----------TO-----------7
4- 28----------TO----------19


I HAVE 2 SETS OF RECORDS RECORDING
A-B-A-C-C-C-B-D-D-C-A-B-C  EXAMPLE

ALSO

2-3-4-2-2-1-2-4-4-3-2-1-2-2- EXAMPLE



BET EVERYONE IS THINKING WHAT THE F**K IS HE ON A BOUT

KINGPIN SHUD KNOW  :-[

the 1/1/2/2/3/4/6/7 would be fine but i think for the extra 9 units 1/1/2/2/3/4/6/8 would be worth risking for the bigger profit margin

hiya king pin... i was intersted i the section i have attached the two whells with two differnt sets of A,B,C,D  sections so we dont have to wait as much---- attached , just want you oppinion rearly m8


The rules for betting

BET1.
If we see a section not repeat in 16 times.
example; A,B,D,B,C,B,D,A,C,D,C,D......
WE BET PROGRESSTION UNTIL WE GET A REPEAT.---never seen it lose
25p on last section = £2.50         win £6.50
25p on last section = £5              win £4
50p on last section = £10             win £8
75p on last section = £17.50      win £9.50
£1  on last section = £27.50        win £8.50
£1.50 on last section = £42.50    win £11.50
£2 on last section = £62.50         win £9.50
£3 on last section = £92.50         win 15.50
£4 on last section = £132.50       win £11.50

BET2.
If we see 6 sections in a row witout repating any of the last 4.
example; A,D,B,C,A,D,
WE BET £1 ON THE LAST 3 SECTIONS TOTAL OF 28 NUMBERS.
£1 on C,A,D = £28 win = £8
FORGET IT IF WE LOSE--- but i hant seen it lose

BET3.
If we see a section not appear in 20 times..
example; A,A,D,C,A,C,D,A,D,C,D,A,D,C,C,C,D,D,A,A,C--- never seen it lose
WE BET PROGRESSTION until we get a B section
25p on  B section = £2.50         win £6.50
25p on  B section = £5              win £4
50p on  B section = £10             win £8
75p on  B section = £17.50      win £9.50
£1  on   B section = £27.50        win £8.50
£1.50 on B section = £42.50    win £11.50
£2 on B section = £62.50         win £9.50
£3 on B section = £92.50         win 15.50
£4 on B section = £132.50       win £11.50

Thanks for your ideas playing your sector methods matt.  I will try them sometime. Bet 1 interests me a lot. Will try bet 2 as well.  Bet 3 looks like i have to wait too long before i can bet , 20 misses before i can bet would very rarely happen on my usual  friendly casino wheel.    On some certain wheels i have played you seem to get more misses before the sleeping section hit , bet 365 is one of them. Thanks for posting.

Hi guys!

I read this thread and I have to be honest with you that it was quite interesting. That's why I wonder why it stopped so suddenly, with no conclusion?

If anyone of you can help me on this, I would appreciate it! Thank you!

sebix

Sebix this is a nice system but don't play for the repeat aggressive attack mode. You loose doing that. Like I said before you MUST have nerves of steel to play this one for for real money as the progession gets real steep , you will need pills to relax your self because with cpr you have to play the progression all the way to the end to make it work. If you have a really big bankroll and have the nerve to play the progression then you can win big bucks. Try and cut the progresions short and it's a loser.

Thank for the reply buddy!

I want to improve this system, and I think the attacking mode is not good (as you pointed out). The first thing I didn't like was the fact that you choose at first your A B C D "slices" on the wheel, each one containing 9 numbers. I think you might miss a lot of opportunities if you do so.

I tried to do something different, namely to observe the wheel's frequency for a certain number of spins (I've chosen to follow the last 18 numbers that appeared - note that the CPR follows the last 7 or 9 - this I consider the biggest flaw of the system). So, when I see a big portion of the wheel that has no hits (it can happen that after 18 spins, 9 or 10 neighbouring numbers are not hit - note that if you used the original CPR system, you would be on the 9th step of the progression), I bet on those numbers, on the entire region.

Another twist would be:  if you see a region with 15 or 16 numbers that have together only 1, 2 or 3 hits within the last 18, you could just bet on them.

My improvement on this system takes into account the following observations:

-it is normal for a dozen/column (or a random arrangement of 12 numbers) to go missing 25+ spins (normal here means that we would still have a fair wheel)

-it is normal for a low/high, red/black, odd/even to go missing for 15+ spins

-it is normal for a line to go missing for 50+ spins

-it is normal for a street to go missing for 100+ spins

and need answers for the following questions:

-it is normal for a 18 numbers sector to go missing for 15+ spins?
-it is normal for a 12 numbers sector to go missing for 25+ spins?
-it is normal for a  6 numbers sector to go missing for 50+ spins?
-it is normal for a 3 number sector to go missing for 100+ spins?

These questions, of course, could and should be extended to sectors of any dimension.

So guys, I invite you to try and give some answers to these questions and try to find an excellent system :D


Sebix

Hi all,
       Im afaraid this is not any help to the system,Im Dave from the uk,just wanted to say hi.
                       I have played roulette for years and lost a small fortune along the way lol,
                       Have been reading this forum for a couple of month's now and just wanted to say you all have my admiration with all the work testing and efforts you put into these systems,helping eachother out with different idea's and view's.
                       I have tried a number of the systems and made a few quid too.
     This one I will be trying later this week and while playing,If I feel I can contribute anything worth while in making the system better I will gladly do so,although I have to be honest,I think all you guy's are street's and street's ahead of me when it comes down to roulette.
                                                             Dave.  :thumbsup:

Casino's are my personal ATM.(nolinks://[color=red][/color%5D)

This is a dual tracking chart I use that I made for playing cpr roulette The top box (ABCD) Has 9 numbers using neighbour sectors too , wait  until any  group ABCD misses 10 times then bet using the conservative progression shown - I have not lost yet!. Course it's possible to lose but happens rarely.
Below is the proper cpr numbers using full 9 number sectors = W I N S.  These letters make it easy to DISTINGUISH thus less chance of costly errors. track the numbers with 100% accuracy is a must with this system .  So far I am up 3000 units with this system - good luck to you guys too. :thumbsup:

another fascinating, promising, and suddenly dead thread.  Are any of you still out there?  Does anyone play this?  Kingspin, do you still play your Magical Splits system?

Sam

The cpr roulette is  very good but has 2 disadvantages 1 is all the tracking involved which can become tiring over many games and 2 the progression needs to be played all the way to the very end.  When playing for real money it is often tempting to cut short the progression in which case the system fails big time.  On the the other hand if the progression is played all the way to the very end then for sure you will win many games.

Some one mentioned here on this thread about waiting for a 9 number section to miss at least 9 times but do not bet the 9 number sector till it actually hits then and only then we start the progression ,which I think is a safer much better bet. Lets say for instance a 9 number section misses 14 times then hits, this section is virtually a guaranteed hit again within the long progression shown earlier in topic.

I used to have it on disc in pdf but have lost it , the links are dead to the free pdf does any one have a link to it?

Thanks for the reply.  And what about you Magical Splits system?

I'm also curious what you think about the 600% in six days dozens system (misfiled, should be in full roulette systems); we could use some progression ideas.

Sam

Try my lucky horse shoe birdhands, it's a favourite to win.  :)

The 600% in six days is a laugh mate  ;D

HI,

anyone manage to win from using those system above?
or losing in long run?
pls share

it has been said for long time that no system based on sleepers can win consistently unless extreme luck is involved.

there is no end to how long the sleep may occur

Hi Kingspin,

Been reading a lot of your discussions on this CPR system.  I have been messing around with it a lot online just playing free games.  So far it is worked out quite well until i visited ivegas and really had a scare when once i started betting on a section of 9 numbers it missed over 20 times.  I do have to say that is the first time that has happened to me.  I was wondering wich sites you like to play and how to know which ones are and which are rng since they all show the wheel.  I am quite new at this so if you could explain that to me it would be appreciated and maybe give me a list of online sites you like to play at.  Like i said i have just been experimenting and haven't actually bet real money yet for the simple fact that i have the fear that maybe the free games are rigged trying to get you to bet for real money.  Any suggestions or tips you may have to offer i would appreciate it.

I prefer playing the partner play betting on 1 of the 3 sections containing 12 nrs.
I wait for 10, sometimes 12 instead of 9 no hits in that sector and then just go for that dangerous progression untill 22units.
I am sure its a good system, but be aware that sometimes you will lose your game.

Bob

Some time ago I found some statistics from RNG ( 1 milion spins) and 1 dozen slept longest for 35 spins. 9 numbers is less so I think it can sleep longer. I know that RNG it is not the same as live roulette but even in live roulette I had once 21 spins without one dozen so without 9 numbers the serie could be longer. The system looks interesting. King spin you uploaded useful picture with numbers but it is for 2 zeros wheel right ? :) I almost mistook, glad I didn't start to play for real. Kingspin do you still play this system and do you play that you wait 10 times without one sector and then start to bet using conservative progression or you wait until this sector hit once and then start betting because you wrote that this second way is better ? Do you still play this system with success ? I think that to fastest play it would be good to code this system and track every 9 neighbour numbers wherever thay are on the wheel which means 37 sectors :) I think it is hard to do but it could be useful.

hi kingspin,

I made a similar system that has 4 sectors and based on 9 numbers, but i didnt base it on sleepers or progression.

it did well in the testing and it still new but it worked.
I got a test done for 100,000 spins and the highest a sleeper went was 37, so i wouldnt play this system.

maybe play the 9 numbers that have the gighest hit, it might help you, thats how i play mine and i use no progression at all and it seems to make profit.

I have different idea how to speed up the game and track many sector at the same time. All we need is to take a graph of the wheel or write the numbers in the same order like on the wheel than we wait for example 12 spins and sign every number which was hit on the graph then when we have for example sector which consist from 9 or more neihbours numbers without hit then we can start betting on them. I had this idea after reading the topic "know when to quit" system who waited for example 12 spins and started to bet on the largest sector. I think that good idea about that is that we can wait for more than 12 spins like for example 15 or more and dont have to wait long. If we have larger sector than 9 we can just remove few numbers and choose 9 neigbours numbers, if we have lower sector than we just have to start again. What do you think about it ? I think that this way it is easy to find any sleeping sector in short time.

Roulette is very flexible unpredictable game and cannot be won with (4) rigid sectors. They must be a liquid one like that one from Raindrop.  If the roulette is ever changing game the system must be ever changing also, like chameleon.
Cheers Hermes

Quote from: hermes on February 16, 2011, 06:42:06 PM
Roulette is very flexible unpredictable game and cannot be won with (4) rigid sectors. They must be a liquid one like that one from Raindrop.  If the roulette is ever changing game the system must be ever changing also, like chameleon.
Cheers Hermes

not unless its based on the wheel then it wouldnt need to change.

the more sectors you have dosent mean you will win more either. the thing is roulette isnt a ever changing game, you can play it an infinity ways but the game is never changing. theres only ever 37 outcomes at the most for the highest (numbers).
well thats how i see it, feel free to tell me im wrong

Quote from: hermes on February 16, 2011, 06:42:06 PM
Roulette is very flexible unpredictable game and cannot be won with (4) rigid sectors. They must be a liquid one like that one from Raindrop.  If the roulette is ever changing game the system must be ever changing also, like chameleon.
Cheers Hermes

havent you made a system baed on 3 sectors, dozens and collumns, thats kind of saying your system wont work.

out of 3 dozens there is only three outcomes, how you play it is a different matter.
H, M or L will hit (only 3 outcomes), we just can never guess which one will hit just like 37 numbers or e/c's (only two outcomes)

You cannot play CPR without losing periodically.  Nobody knows for sure if in the long run the wins stay ahead of the losses.  If you had program that could test it against 1000000000000000s of spins, it would lose..

Of everyone who plays it most will eventually lose, some will no doubt win.

Which will you be?

George

Quote from: GLC on February 16, 2011, 09:57:18 PM
You cannot play CPR without losing periodically.  Nobody knows for sure if in the long run the wins stay ahead of the losses.  If you had program that could test it against 1000000000000000s of spins, it would lose..

Of everyone who plays it most will eventually lose, some will no doubt win.

Which will you be?

George

i second that. i guess all this story was just a scam to sell. it is impossible to be true. For a professional player to bet consistently cold sectors? impossible. Only a newbie, and most likely not for too long till he learns the lesson.

hi GLC
you remind me life-evergreen but never-seen. down the path, spiralling.

catalyst

Today I had one session with 28 spins without one sector but I dont't have static sectors I just track last 12 or more spins and then choose the sector. Glad I started betting after 14 spins so I didn't lose but it was close.

 :angry2:  Just the other day had the sector not hit for 32 spins.   Playing it on RNG which I'm sure had some influence. 

You guys must be casino owners who are posting negative stuff about this fantastic system. On some wheels this system is as close to a holy grail as you can get, it don't work on rng though.

LOL...casino owners...

bud,  maybe U r a casino owner? posting results for people to lose? kidding...

if u r happy with the system, if it works for u then great! good luck! maybe u r a lucky guy, that's good then.
even Martingale works for some...

So Kingspin, let me get this straight, you've been playing this system for over 2 years and still think it's great?  I don't quite get it; I would think that either you'd be rich by now or you would have given up on it.  And why all the other systems you've been coming up with all this time?

Sam

Casino Owner, I'd love that kinda money. . . .  lol

Birdhands the method of cpr roulette only works on certain wheels. Playtech online casino's it don't work too good.
Still I rate this system 8 out of ten. Try it and see , its a fantastic system when your a on a nicely tuned wheel.


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Quote from: Kingspin on March 28, 2011, 04:32:16 PM
Birdhands the method of cpr roulette only works on certain wheels. Playtech online casino's it don't work too good.
Still I rate this system 8 out of ten. Try it and see , its a fantastic system when your a on a nicely tuned wheel.

Hi Kingspin.

Would you be willing to share which casino's work well for you? Im sure that would be a great help.

Thanks,
James.

I recommend this system be played at super casino dealer wheels not auto wheels.  Never play this on auto wheels or you can see a steep progression all to often. No I don't own the super casino  ;D

I wish I did though  ;D

Quote from: Kingspin on March 28, 2011, 05:11:07 PM
I recommend this system be played at super casino dealer wheels not auto wheels.  Never play this on auto wheels or you can see a steep progression all to often. No I don't own the super casino  ;D

I wish I did though  ;D

This may be a stupid question, but what are super casino dealer wheels?

James.

James, it is for UK residents only:(

nolinks://nolinks.supercasino.com/?page=register (nolinks://nolinks.supercasino.com/?page=register)

Quote from: iggiv on March 28, 2011, 06:45:35 PM
James, it is for UK residents only:(

nolinks://nolinks.supercasino.com/?page=register (nolinks://nolinks.supercasino.com/?page=register)

Ohh that. Thanks man.

I am am actualy a UK resident :P

Thanks again.

Btw just becuase your not a UK resident, you should still be able to play it online.

James.

how come? they say "only UK resident" on registration page

Quote from: iggiv on March 28, 2011, 07:02:35 PM
how come? they say "only UK resident" on registration page

Yeh, sorry i just noticed that. That sucks.

James.

Hi,

I've been reading some awesome information on here as a guest user, so i have finally registered, to give back ( i hope).

Anyway, after reading all these posts, i wanted to check out Chuck's original ebook, to clarify exactly what he does, i found it and it was extremely useful, so i am passing on the link i got it from, incase antone else wants to read the original.

keep up the great knowledge sharing!  :)

CPR system ebook: hxxp: nolinks. fileserve. com/file/Zg7Gws9

The url for the consistent profit roulette from what i see does not work dead link or some thing , please try a new url.   :good:

Strange. . .   :scratch_ones_head:

i just tried it and it works fine.  Computers eh! lol

Quote from: enrique malou on August 11, 2008, 01:03:06 PM
I agree with Sam. This is ridiculous. If you win 150-200 chip per hour at $5.00. Then that is $1000. times 5 hours = $5000. times 7 days = $35000. times 4 weeks = $140000. times 12 months = $1680000. Haha. this is crazy. It take me 5 years to win any kind of decent money with roulette and I have many losing sessions. but somehow this magical split turn you into multi-millionaire over 12 months for few hours work a day. and you never have losing session. yeah right. It is magical ok. the magic mushrooms I am thinking.

If he was doing this, he wouldn't be here talking to us, he would be here with them:
(nolinks://profphotos.com/streamrotator/thumbs/k/6154.jpg)

Hi,Thanks for the interesting system,sadly i started to play on Celtic Casino with it and just experienced column "I" sleeping for 26 spins,i was abit shocked. I was playing WINS.  I  was glad i was playing in their fun money on the live dealer wheel,so for everyone who wanted to try this  with CC,be warned.

u may play sleepers ocasionally between other methods as hit-run 9 (with small stop-loss), but never on a consistent basis. And never make it your main strategy. Sleepers generally don't work. that's a trap for newbies.

I was using the smartlive casino stats which show u the last 183 spins,real handy.
I had the "N" in the WINS(2,4,15,17,19,21,25,32,34. )not show for 29 times,I really do recommend betting only AFTER your sector numbers hit as i am yet to have it not show up again within the 13 progression,at most by the 10th it repeated,some even hit consecutively,
So basically wait for a sector to not show up in 10 spins,when it hits only then start betting which is a far better/safer option as someone suggested earlier.

Will soon start playing the actual spins,thanks for system Kingspin!

Quote from: iggiv on April 20, 2011, 05:06:28 PM
u may play sleepers ocasionally between other methods as hit-run 9 (with small stop-loss), but never on a consistent basis. And never make it your main strategy. Sleepers generally don't work. that's a trap for newbies.

I don't believe it is any different playing the first or last six numbers.

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Quote from: Nathan Detroit on April 22, 2011, 09:37:19 AM
What has become  ENRIQUE MALOU  ?

Did he have too many dinner invitaions by the pit bosses which contributed to his demise ?

Was he tortured to reveal his systems ?

Did he SELL his systems and lived happily ever after ?

NATHAN
YOU ARE A NEGATIVEMINDED PERSON. YOU TRAVEL FROM   FORUM TO FORUM, YOU SWALLOW THE GIST OF MEANINGFUL INFORMATION AND YOU LIVE ON WITHOUT ANY CONTRIBUTION TO ANYWHERE.
YOUR DEVILISH NATURE IS NOT WELCOME.
THANKS
CATALYST

Catalyst I agree with you 110%.

NATHAN is A NEGATIVE MINDED PERSON.

I read many of his feedback on various forums and couldn't locate one positive comment from this person.

Nathan,

Since you think you're a "Roulette genius", perhaps you can post your system and records. Let see what you have to offer to the members on this board?

John

What has become  ENRIQUE MALOU  ?

Did he have too many dinner invitaions by the pit bosses which contributed to his demise ?

Was he tortured to reveal his systems ?

Did he SELL his systems and lived happily ever after

.

Quote from: jrhelp007 on April 22, 2011, 12:40:02 PM
Catalyst I agree with you 110%.

NATHAN is A NEGATIVE MINDED PERSON.

I read many of his feedback on various forums and couldn't locate one positive comment from this person.

Nathan,

Since you think you're a "Roulette genius", perhaps you can post your system and records. Let see what you have to offer to the members on this board?

John

No, Nathan is NOT NEGATIVE. He is a very positive and good person. And he is a real pro.
He just doesn't believe lots of stuff posted on this board, and I generally agree with him.

iggiv,

If you think that Nathan is that good, please refer me and the members of this forum to those posts. Let me see some positive posts.

Show the members of this board his contribution and his results in gambling!

Catalyst did a good and an honest post!!!

John

nobody has an obligation to prove u anything. u don't believe me, u don't believe him -- it is not our problem.

but if U want some hint, i will give it to u. Read his last posts regarding Brett Morton.

What about using Holyman's matrix or some voodoo magic with consistent profit strategy?
Hermes

hi guys. did anyone managed to write RX system for this?

just a info, I managed to find someone to put this system in automation for RX